Re: multiple bearer box - Netikos?

2003-02-26 Thread Stipe Tolj
Nisan Bloch wrote:
 
 At 11:37 AM 2/25/03 +0100, Stipe Tolj wrote:
 Kalle Marjola wrote:
  
   That's why I published them, altought I knew that some things are a bit
   too radical. As we have no resources to do any development on it right
   now, I hope that you can scavenge useful things out from it and this way
   improve the Kannel project.
 
 yep, +1 :) that's what we all do.
 
 ditto +1
 
 i dont have much spare time, but I could over the next week or so make a
 list of those pieces that we can move over basically transparently (eg http
 libs) and those that would be relatively easy (eg adding the sms-service
 rules from NMGW) and those that cannot be done without some major changes
 to Kannel.

ok, go for it. 

Listen anyway to the list, because we may start already with sync'ing
some parts from Netikos version to the official tree.

Stipe

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Re: multiple bearer box - Netikos?

2003-02-25 Thread Kalle Marjola
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Stipe Tolj wrote:

 Nisan Bloch wrote:
  
  I think rolling NMGW into Kannel would be worthwhile. At the same time come
  up with a combined bbox+smsbox version, with the same HTTP interface. In
  addition an API to build XXXboxs with. Smsbox would be the first such app
  and maybe the smppbox and emibox that have been mentioned on the list.
 
 definetly. 
 
 We should merge things from Netikos version into official Kannel.
 
 Main question would be how many efforts Netikos is *still* doing in
 continued development of their branch? Kalle?

Practically nothing has been done since I pusblished that code.

 You guys could switch off to the official tree and get your great
 things included there. This would cause a benefit for all.

That's why I published them, altought I knew that some things are a bit 
too radical. As we have no resources to do any development on it right 
now, I hope that you can scavenge useful things out from it and this way 
improve the Kannel project.

-- 
kalle marjola




Re: multiple bearer box - Netikos?

2003-02-25 Thread Stipe Tolj
Kalle Marjola wrote:
 
 That's why I published them, altought I knew that some things are a bit
 too radical. As we have no resources to do any development on it right
 now, I hope that you can scavenge useful things out from it and this way
 improve the Kannel project.

yep, +1 :) that's what we all do.

Stipe

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Re: multiple bearer box - Netikos?

2003-02-25 Thread Nisan Bloch
At 11:37 AM 2/25/03 +0100, Stipe Tolj wrote:
Kalle Marjola wrote:

 That's why I published them, altought I knew that some things are a bit
 too radical. As we have no resources to do any development on it right
 now, I hope that you can scavenge useful things out from it and this way
 improve the Kannel project.
yep, +1 :) that's what we all do.


ditto +1

i dont have much spare time, but I could over the next week or so make a 
list of those pieces that we can move over basically transparently (eg http 
libs) and those that would be relatively easy (eg adding the sms-service 
rules from NMGW) and those that cannot be done without some major changes 
to Kannel.

Nisan

Stipe

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Re: multiple bearer box - Netikos?

2003-02-23 Thread Stipe Tolj
Nisan Bloch wrote:
 
 I think rolling NMGW into Kannel would be worthwhile. At the same time come
 up with a combined bbox+smsbox version, with the same HTTP interface. In
 addition an API to build XXXboxs with. Smsbox would be the first such app
 and maybe the smppbox and emibox that have been mentioned on the list.

definetly. 

We should merge things from Netikos version into official Kannel.

Main question would be how many efforts Netikos is *still* doing in
continued development of their branch? Kalle?

You guys could switch off to the official tree and get your great
things included there. This would cause a benefit for all.

Stipe

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Re: multiple bearer box - Netikos?

2003-02-20 Thread Nisan Bloch
At 10:20 AM 2/20/03 +0100, Stipe Tolj wrote:

Alexander Malysh wrote:



that's true. That's why we implemented the 'include = file' feature
for the config file handling, so you can structurize the global config
file for your own needs.

It's like you setup an apache config for every VHost you'd like to
run.

AFAIK, the Netikos version had such things. We should definetly start
to port things from their version to the official tree.



yup it does. I keep wanting to do this but then worry about getting off the 
current tree too much.
For whats its worth here are some notes that I started on NMGW a while back.

* I like the merged smsbox/bearerbox.
* NMGW have much better handling of concat messages. I had a situation 
where a user posted through a udh of 264 bytes, this will crash the current 
Kannel. I havent tested this with your NMGW, but from looking at your code 
it seems you will handle it.
* NMGW reconcats MO messages.
* The current Kannel however has a much more complete EMI,SMPP and AT2 
implementations,
* The DLR handing is a tricky one. NMGW has a better implementation and 
abstraction layer for the dlr stuff, and it would be relatively easy to 
roll the exisiting Kannel DLR functionality into NMGW but not the other way.
* Utoi's reworked HTTP lib is indeed substantially better.
* Without doubt the extended charset / unicode support is great.
* I see that you dont have mclass support in the sms push CGI - Kannel is 
ahead on smsbox/config file options.
* Kannel has better control over stopping and starting individual SMSC 
connections from the HTTP admin interface, but NMGW reloads configs better. 
I dont think either can add new SMSC connections on the fly. I am also not 
sure how NMGW handles queued messages when restarting  from HTTP interface.
* A bit concerned about the lack of mysql support? Is the NMGW store file 
support super stable? It becomes critical for deliv acks to keep state 
between restarts of the gateway?
* The NMGW sms-service stuff is very very nice. I like the power of the 
conditions and matching rules. And might be helpfull for handling deliv_acks.

I think rolling NMGW into Kannel would be worthwhile. At the same time come 
up with a combined bbox+smsbox version, with the same HTTP interface. In 
addition an API to build XXXboxs with. Smsbox would be the first such app 
and maybe the smppbox and emibox that have been mentioned on the list.

Nisan