Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

Maybe somehow fluid-soundfont-gm or fluid-soundfont-lite-patches is getting
dragged in ? Those are quite big.

Regards,

Hans


On 03/22/2010 01:50 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
 Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle?

* The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a
  single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was
  replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it
  doesn't require the desktop-brackgrounds package
* The Xfce spin has grown from 697 MB to 744 MB [2] without major
  changes. In fact, we dropped totem and gftp, which is at least
  10 MB.

 Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
 this?

 Regards,
 Christoph
 [1]
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/lxde/logs/SIZEHISTORY-i386
 [2]
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/xfce/logs/SIZEHISTORY-i386

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Privoxy have a lot openbugs in F12

2010-03-22 Thread Chen Lei
Hi all,
 
The privoxy current in F12 is a beta version and had a lot of bugs.
See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=privoxyproduct=Fedora
 
Can anyone tell Karsten to fix those bugs?
 
 
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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 09:43 +0100 schrieb Hans de Goede:
 Hi,
 
 Maybe somehow fluid-soundfont-gm or fluid-soundfont-lite-patches is getting
 dragged in ? 

Nope, according to the logs [1+2] they are not in there. Also it's a
steady growth instead of some big changes.

Regards,
Christoph

[1] http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/xfce/logs/
[2] http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/lxde/logs/

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Christoph Wickert
christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle?

      * The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a
        single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was
        replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it
        doesn't require the desktop-brackgrounds package
      * The Xfce spin has grown from 697 MB to 744 MB [2] without major
        changes. In fact, we dropped totem and gftp, which is at least
        10 MB.

 Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
 this?

I've found with Moblin and Sugar that one of the easiest/quickest but
probably not the most eloquent way is to do a 'rpm -qa | sort 
rpm-out' and then using some horrible diff hacking to get a rough idea
of what's changed. I know there's been some expansion of dependencies
with the addition of gstreamer-plugins-bad-free and it looks like some
other deps in some core things have been pulled in as well. I need to
sit down in the next week or two and go through the ones I've noted
mentally and follow up with bugs but my real life seems to keep
getting in the way.

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Re: Privoxy have a lot openbugs in F12

2010-03-22 Thread LinuxDonald

Am 22.03.2010 09:45, schrieb Chen Lei:

Hi all,
The privoxy current in F12 is a beta version and had a lot of bugs.
See 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=privoxyproduct=Fedora 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=privoxyproduct=Fedora

Can anyone tell Karsten to fix those bugs?
Regard.
Chen Lei



And this Bug too https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567063
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Re: Evolution trash folder

2010-03-22 Thread Milan Crha
On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 20:53 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
 No checkmarks checked or unchecked that I could find.  The only other
 explanation is if I did a clean setup (no backups) and see what that
 does.  I might do that with a clean/new test user and see what
 happens.

Hi,
try to run Evolution from console, and see what it says, if anything, in
time of deleting the message.

One thing I do not understand from your description, when you delete
message (press a Del button), the message is marked as deleted and
either is removed from the message list or shown there with a strike out
font. It should be also visible in the account's Trash folder. Because
your Folder-Expunge does correct thing, then the message is marked as
deleted. Thus I guess your UI is not showing the right thing, does it do
at least one of the above mentioned? Maybe the index for a Trash folder
is corrupted for some reason; you can try to stop Evolution and move out
your ~/.evolution/mail/imap/account/folders.db file, but as it
contains all your account index, then the next start will take some
time, till it fills it again. Or you can drop only all Trash related
tables from there, but it's not as that easy to do. If something goes
wrong, then return the folders.db file back.

Hope that helps,
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Non-responsive maintainer Karsten Hopp? (was: Re: Privoxy have a lot openbugs in F12)

2010-03-22 Thread Till Maas
Hiyas,

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:45:25PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote:

 The privoxy current in F12 is a beta version and had a lot of bugs.
 See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=privoxyproduct=Fedora
  
 Can anyone tell Karsten to fix those bugs?

I did not check any further, but did he maybe leave Red Hat?

Karsten, do you maybe want someone else to maintainer privoxy for you?
Please respond, otherwise I will start the non responsive maintainer
procedure as it is outlined here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers

I just looked a little through the bugs and the oldest bug is nearly a
year old without any response by Karsten. Also I could close 3 bugs as
duplicates and one seems to be fixed upstream.

Regards
Till


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2010-03-19 - F-13 Beta Blocker Meeting Recap

2010-03-22 Thread James Laska
Greetings,

The second scheduled [1] Fedora 13 Beta blocker bug review [2] was held
last Friday.  The F13Beta blocker list [3] was reviewed and each bug was
evaluated against the beta release criteria [4].

Thanks to all who helped move the meeting along.  A meeting recap is
attached and available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-03-19/f13beta-blocker-review.2010-03-19-16.04.html

Thanks,
James

[1]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-quality-tasks.html
[2] Say this five times fast
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=F13Beta
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria

==
#fedora-bugzappers: F13Beta-blocker-review
==


Meeting started by jlaska at 16:04:44 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2010-03-19/f13beta-blocker-review.2010-03-19-16.04.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* Gathering critmass  (jlaska, 16:05:15)

* Gathering crit-mass  (jlaska, 16:08:35)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574748  (adamw, 16:18:02)
  * adding this to F13Beta for discussion whether this bug affects the
Alpha  (jlaska, 16:18:25)
  * IDEA: Target bugs can be included in a crit-path package update, but
at least one Blocker bug must also be present?  (jlaska, 16:21:48)
  * AGREED: 574748 drops from blocker list, it's not severe enough
(adamw, 16:24:05)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574743  (adamw, 16:24:15)
  * AGREED: 574743 will be an easy fix. blocker status uncertain but not
worth investing time in discussing  (adamw, 16:30:14)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572489  (adamw, 16:30:27)
  * LINK:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/089140.html
(jlaska, 16:32:33)
  * AGREED: 572489 was agreed not to be a blocker last week but bugzilla
was not updated; we will update bugzilla this week  (adamw,
16:34:59)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570302  (adamw, 16:35:04)
  * AGREED: we do not have enough information to fully evaluate 570302,
will ask for further information from hans on the bug  (adamw,
16:42:19)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569377  (adamw, 16:43:24)
  * AGREED: 569377 is a blocker, clumens to poke pjones about it
(adamw, 16:49:44)
  * ACTION: clumens to poke pjones to take action on 569377  (adamw,
16:49:54)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=539904  (adamw, 16:50:56)
  * IDEA: non-english languages are not represented in the current
installer matrix (both graphical or text-mode)  (jlaska, 16:54:00)
  * AGREED: 539904 is a blocker, a patch is in the bug, clumens is
checking it  (adamw, 16:55:46)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505189  (adamw, 16:56:02)
  * LINK:

http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=f8c1f662b5195805d5fbde60c6593909cd8f4395
(jlaska, 17:00:17)
  * AGREED: 505189 is not quite a blocker, but nice to have, and the fix
is simple: we will probably take it into beta  (adamw, 17:03:27)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567346  (adamw, 17:04:18)
  * AGREED: 567346 requires more information; hughsie believed it was
fixed in latest gnome-packagekit but adamw is still experiencing.
blocker status unclear but leaving on list at least until next week
(adamw, 17:22:28)
  * ACTION: adamw to talk to hughsie about 567346 and try to diagnose
(adamw, 17:22:39)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568106  (adamw, 17:22:47)
  * ACTION: jlaska will attempt to reproduce 568106 on bare metal
(jlaska, 17:30:40)
  * AGREED: 568106 blocker status uncertain, leaving on the list to
discuss again next week after further testing  (adamw, 17:32:56)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=533746  (adamw, 17:34:19)
  * AGREED: 533746 is blocker-y due to the large amount of systems
affected, a fix is in progress and linville is hopeful it can land
early next week in time for beta rc1  (adamw, 17:46:34)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=566425  (adamw, 17:46:50)
  * AGREED: 566425 is a blocker, jlaska will co-ordinate with cole to
get a fixed package downstream in time for beta rc period  (adamw,
17:51:37)
  * ACTION: jlaska to co-ordinate with crobinson to get a new libvirt
package in  (adamw, 17:51:56)

* https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559290  (adamw, 17:52:09)
  * LINK:

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f12/en-US/html/index.html#sect-Release_Notes-Hardware_Requirements
(jlaska, 17:56:11)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499585   (adamw,
17:56:24)
  * LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats_Hardware_Overview
looks like the beat  (adamw, 17:59:42)
  * ACTION: jlaska will update 559290 given that it appears the reporter
problem is resolved  

Re: Akonadi's unix sockets location

2010-03-22 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/21/2010 10:44 AM, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
 On 19 March 2010 23:52, Lennart Poetteringmzerq...@0pointer.de  wrote:

 That is a security hole. Since /tmp knows no further access control an
 evil user can just create dirs there for each and every single user on
 the system. Those directories will then be owned by him, and all other
 users will a) either completely fail to work or b) happily connect to
 the evil user's services unless the software in question implements
 two-way credential passing and verification (which I'd bet akonadi
 doesn't do).

 So either this is a DoS vulnerability or an even worse security hole.

 So in short: don't do this. If you safely want to place a socket in
 /tmp, you need to place it in a random dir, and then symlink (or
 otherwise refer to it) from $HOME. Or better (as Colin suggested), just
 use D-Bus to pass around the randomized socket path. (or even better:
 use the new fd passing in D-Bus so that you don't need to socket path at
 all)

 Or even shorter: Unix sucks.

 At last year's FOSS.in I did a talk about issues like this in Unix and
 how to work around them in application and how incredibly hard it is to
 get this right. One of those days I hope to find the time to write a
 blog story about this.

 I personally believe introducing a per-user /var/run (maybe as
 /var/run/users/$USER which is created at login time) is cleanest way to
 fix all of this.

  
 I can't imagine what harm that would cause to default under /tmp?

 It's a shared namespace. As such it is a major source of
 vulnerabitilities, especially if the developers didn't have this
 particular use in mind.
  
 To what extent would the security issues associated with files in /tmp
 be mitigated with a polyinstantiated /tmp directories? Should Fedora
 move to that as a default?

Yes  a lot of this would be fixed, but it is very confusing to have 
different views of /tmp.
I have it setup right now and am bit by root having a different view of 
/tmp then my user account.
And I understand the technology.
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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Seth Vidal



On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Peter Robinson wrote:


On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Christoph Wickert
christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:

Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle?

     * The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a
       single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was
       replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it
       doesn't require the desktop-brackgrounds package
     * The Xfce spin has grown from 697 MB to 744 MB [2] without major
       changes. In fact, we dropped totem and gftp, which is at least
       10 MB.

Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
this?


I've found with Moblin and Sugar that one of the easiest/quickest but
probably not the most eloquent way is to do a 'rpm -qa | sort 
rpm-out' and then using some horrible diff hacking to get a rough idea
of what's changed.



rpm -qa --qf %{name}\n | sort  rpm-out

then you can diff the two more easily.

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Adam Miller
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Christoph Wickert
christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle?

      * The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a
        single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was
        replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it
        doesn't require the desktop-brackgrounds package
      * The Xfce spin has grown from 697 MB to 744 MB [2] without major
        changes. In fact, we dropped totem and gftp, which is at least
        10 MB.

 Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
 this?

 Regards,
 Christoph
 [1]
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/lxde/logs/SIZEHISTORY-i386
 [2]
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/xfce/logs/SIZEHISTORY-i386

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Could it be related to the dracut issue we ran into during the F12 build cycle?

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Adam Miller
maxamill...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Christoph Wickert
 christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle?

      * The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a
        single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was
        replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it
        doesn't require the desktop-brackgrounds package
      * The Xfce spin has grown from 697 MB to 744 MB [2] without major
        changes. In fact, we dropped totem and gftp, which is at least
        10 MB.

 Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
 this?

 Regards,
 Christoph
 [1]
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/lxde/logs/SIZEHISTORY-i386
 [2]
 http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/nightly-composes/xfce/logs/SIZEHISTORY-i386

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 Could it be related to the dracut issue we ran into during the F12 build 
 cycle?

Possibly. I'm also seeing packages pull in perl again (need to review
and file bugs). anaconda/syslinux is one of the big ones here. It was
always an issue but for some reason syslinux use to have the auto deps
suppressed which stopped the perl dep. perl pulls in a good 40+ meg
for a tiny little script that is used during a small component of the
anaconda process that isn't used at all as part of the liveinst (or
even a traditional install). See bug 544136 and its dependant bug.

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 01:50 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote:
 Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle?
 
   * The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a
 single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was
 replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it
 doesn't require the desktop-brackgrounds package
   * The Xfce spin has grown from 697 MB to 744 MB [2] without major
 changes. In fact, we dropped totem and gftp, which is at least
 10 MB.
 
 Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
 this?

Download the ISOs, boot them in qemu, rpm -qa inside them...

Shame that the compose logs only go back to February though.

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Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema

2010-03-22 Thread buildsys


perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.40-1.fc14.noarch requires 
perl(Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema::Types)
On i386:
perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.40-1.fc14.noarch requires 
perl(Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema::Types)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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rawhide report: 20100322 changes

2010-03-22 Thread Rawhide Report
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ewl-devel-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libecore_txt.so.0
ewl-devel-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libevas.so.0
ewl-devel-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libecore.so.0
ewl-devel-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libedje.so.0
ewl-devel-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libecore_file.so.0
ewl-devel-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libecore_evas.so.0
gvfs-afc-1.5.5-1.fc14.i686 requires libimobiledevice.so.0
hornsey-1.5.2-0.1.fc13.i686 requires libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0
inkscape-0.47-6.fc13.i686 requires libMagick++.so.2
inkscape-0.47-6.fc13.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2
inkscape-view-0.47-6.fc13.i686 requires libMagick++.so.2
inkscape-view-0.47-6.fc13.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2
libgpod-0.7.91-1.fc14.i686 requires libimobiledevice.so.0
murmur-1.1.8-15.fc12.i686 requires libIce.so.33
murmur-1.1.8-15.fc12.i686 requires libIceUtil.so.33
openvas-libnasl-2.0.2-3.fc13.i686 requires libopenvas.so.2
openvas-libnasl-2.0.2-3.fc13.i686 requires libopenvas_hg.so.2
paperbox-0.4.4-2.fc12.i686 requires libtrackerclient.so.0
perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-0.40-1.fc14.noarch requires 
perl(Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema::Types)
php-pecl-imagick-2.2.2-4.fc12.i686 requires libMagickWand.so.2
php-pecl-imagick-2.2.2-4.fc12.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2
pyclutter-gst-0.9.2-1.fc12.i686 requires libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0
python-gpod-0.7.91-1.fc14.i686 requires 

Re: Akonadi's unix sockets location

2010-03-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 21.03.10 14:44, Jonathan Underwood (jonathan.underw...@gmail.com) wrote:

  It's a shared namespace. As such it is a major source of
  vulnerabitilities, especially if the developers didn't have this
  particular use in mind.
 
 To what extent would the security issues associated with files in /tmp
 be mitigated with a polyinstantiated /tmp directories? Should Fedora
 move to that as a default?

The major security issues would certainly go away that way, but I don't
think that such a behaviourial change would be a good idea. /tmp has
always been a shared namespace, and some apps might actually depend on
that to exchange files between users. The FHS assumes a single namespace
for the entire fs hierarchy and departing from that might create various
unexpected problems. Starting from admins who don't expect a weirdness
like this, but also applications that break with behaviour like that.

To my knowledge the Debian folks experimented with this a couple of
years ago, and even wanted to make it the default (but didn't in the
end, afaics). Might be interesting to learn about the results of their
experimenting.

Instead of changing the semantics of /tmp which is already way to
established with all its brokeness and weird semantics, I'd rather like
to see a new dir added /var/run/users/$USER/ that does not suffer by all
the problems and introduces new, clean and well defined semantics.

Lennart

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Live image from filesystem snapshot?

2010-03-22 Thread Steven I Usdansky
Not sure where to send this request, but since it was inspired by the
Fedora has become fat! discussion, this seems like an appropriate
place. I have a nicely tweaked installation of the LXDE spin sitting
on my hard drive that I would like to snapshot and place on a live
USB stick (ideally with persistent overlay). Is there a simple way
to do this? I really don't want to have to mess around with revisor
and custom kickstart files - been there, done that.



  
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Re: Live image from filesystem snapshot?

2010-03-22 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
I think this is a good idea

because many of our users don't have access to any repositories

I thought about rpmrebuild then creating a repo ...

Name   : rpmrebuild
Description: A tool to build an RPM file from a package that has already been
   : installed.

but that would be a big waste of resources and time ...etc.
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rpms/perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema/devel auto.ini, 1.1, 1.2 perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema.spec, 1.7, 1.8

2010-03-22 Thread Chris Weyl
Author: cweyl

Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv13775

Modified Files:
auto.ini perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema.spec 
Log Message:
* Mon Mar 22 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.40-2
- manually provide Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema::Types... le sigh



Index: auto.ini
===
RCS file: /cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema/devel/auto.ini,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- auto.ini21 Mar 2010 01:37:01 -  1.1
+++ auto.ini22 Mar 2010 15:31:32 -  1.2
@@ -8,3 +8,6 @@ perl(DBD::SQLite)=0
 [add_requires]
 perl(Hash::Merge)=0
 perl(DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader)=0
+
+[add_provides]
+perl(Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema::Types)=0


Index: perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema.spec
===
RCS file: 
/cvs/extras/rpms/perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema/devel/perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.7
retrieving revision 1.8
diff -u -p -r1.7 -r1.8
--- perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema.spec21 Mar 2010 01:35:39 -  
1.7
+++ perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema.spec22 Mar 2010 15:31:32 -  
1.8
@@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
 Name:   perl-Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema
 Summary:DBIx::Class::Schema Model Class
 Version:0.40
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 Source0:
http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/R/RK/RKITOVER/Catalyst-Model-DBIC-Schema-%{version}.tar.gz
 
@@ -10,6 +10,8 @@ BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{ve
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
 BuildArch:  noarch
 
+Provides:   perl(Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema::Types)
+
 BuildRequires:  /usr/bin/catalyst.pl
 BuildRequires:  perl(Carp::Clan)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Catalyst::Runtime) = 5.80005
@@ -80,6 +82,9 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Mar 22 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.40-2
+- manually provide Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema::Types... le sigh
+
 * Fri Mar 12 2010 Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu 0.40-1
 - update by Fedora::App::MaintainerTools 0.006
 - PERL_INSTALL_ROOT = DESTDIR

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Re: F13 install timings

2010-03-22 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 03/19/2010 03:41 PM, John Reiser wrote:
 It's an http install to a local server, and there is no access during
 that stage (after is has all of the repodata files) until it starts
 fetching package headers.  So, it seems like filing a bug is in order.
 Anaconda or yum?

 Anaconda, the program that you invoked.  If anaconda can pass the
 blame along to yum, then I'm sure that they will :-)

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575878

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:


 On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Peter Robinson wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Christoph Wickert
 christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Why has Fedora become so fat in the F13 development cycle?

      * The LXDE Spin has grown from 464 MB to 509 MB [1] without a
        single change in the Spin. There actually was a change, SLIM was
        replaced with LXDM, but LXDM is actually smaller because it
        doesn't require the desktop-brackgrounds package
      * The Xfce spin has grown from 697 MB to 744 MB [2] without major
        changes. In fact, we dropped totem and gftp, which is at least
        10 MB.

 Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
 this?

 I've found with Moblin and Sugar that one of the easiest/quickest but
 probably not the most eloquent way is to do a 'rpm -qa | sort 
 rpm-out' and then using some horrible diff hacking to get a rough idea
 of what's changed.


 rpm -qa --qf %{name}\n | sort  rpm-out

 then you can diff the two more easily.


I also like to do a

rpm -qa --qf '%{SIZE} %{NAME}\n | sort -n  rpm-size-out

and one could do a

rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME} %{SIZE}\n' | sort  rpm-size

and compare per package to see what has grown. Also are there extra
debugging being turned on for the alpha/betas? I know that a long time
ago (back when your pappy and I fought in the great Distro war) we
turned on extra stuff during alpha/betas to help find problems.


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Re: Non-responsive maintainer Karsten Hopp?

2010-03-22 Thread Karsten Hopp
Am 22.03.2010 12:05, schrieb Till Maas:
 Hiyas,

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:45:25PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote:

   The privoxy current in F12 is a beta version and had a lot of bugs.
   See 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=privoxyproduct=Fedora
 
   Can anyone tell Karsten to fix those bugs?

 I did not check any further, but did he maybe leave Red Hat?

 Karsten, do you maybe want someone else to maintainer privoxy for you?
 Please respond, otherwise I will start the non responsive maintainer
 procedure as it is outlined here:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers

 I just looked a little through the bugs and the oldest bug is nearly a
 year old without any response by Karsten. Also I could close 3 bugs as
 duplicates and one seems to be fixed upstream.

 Regards
 Till



I'm still here, although quite busy with s390x as a secondary arch.
If someone is willing to take over privoxy, I'd be happy to orphan it.
Otherwise I'll try to find some time this week to update privoxy to 3.0.16.

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Re: Non-responsive maintainer Karsten Hopp?

2010-03-22 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Karsten Hopp kars...@redhat.com wrote:
 Am 22.03.2010 12:05, schrieb Till Maas:
 Hiyas,

 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 04:45:25PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote:

   The privoxy current in F12 is a beta version and had a lot of bugs.
   See 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?component=privoxyproduct=Fedora
 
   Can anyone tell Karsten to fix those bugs?

 I did not check any further, but did he maybe leave Red Hat?

 Karsten, do you maybe want someone else to maintainer privoxy for you?
 Please respond, otherwise I will start the non responsive maintainer
 procedure as it is outlined here:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers

 I just looked a little through the bugs and the oldest bug is nearly a
 year old without any response by Karsten. Also I could close 3 bugs as
 duplicates and one seems to be fixed upstream.

 Regards
 Till



 I'm still here, although quite busy with s390x as a secondary arch.
 If someone is willing to take over privoxy, I'd be happy to orphan it.
 Otherwise I'll try to find some time this week to update privoxy to 3.0.16.

I will help you.

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F-13 Branched report: 20100322 changes

2010-03-22 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Mar 22 09:15:08 UTC 2010

Broken deps for i386
--
hornsey-1.5.2-0.1.fc13.i686 requires libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0
pyclutter-gst-0.9.2-1.fc12.i686 requires libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0
zikula-module-menutree-2.2-1.fc13.noarch requires zikula = 0:1.2



Broken deps for x86_64
--
hornsey-1.5.2-0.1.fc13.x86_64 requires libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0()(64bit)
pyclutter-gst-0.9.2-1.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0()(64bit)
zikula-module-menutree-2.2-1.fc13.noarch requires zikula = 0:1.2



New package cocot
COde COnverter on Tty
New package desktopcouch
A CouchDB instance on every desktop
New package fetch-crl
Downloads Certificate Revocation Lists
New package ibus-skk
Japanese SKK input method for ibus
New package ibus-table-yinma
The phonetic tables for IBus-Table
New package perl-CLASS
Alias for __PACKAGE__
New package perl-opts
Simple command line option parser
New package qstardict
StarDict clone written using Qt4
New package raw-thumbnailer
Nautilus file manager thumbnailer for RAW images
New package rawtherapee
Raw image processing software
New package uperf
Network performance tool with modelling and replay support
New package xfce4-remmina-plugin
Xfce panel plugin for Remmina remote desktop client
Updated Packages:

FlightGear-Atlas-0.4.0-0.5.cvs20100226.fc13
---
* Thu Mar 11 2010 Fabrice Bellet fabr...@bellet.info 0.4.0-0.5.cvs20100226
- Fix graph axis formatting bug, by avoiding negative values in the
  format string


GraphicsMagick-1.3.12-1.fc13

* Mon Mar 08 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.3.12-1
- GraphicsMagick-1.3.12

* Tue Feb 23 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 1.3.11-1
- GraphicsMagick-1.3.11


PyQt4-4.7-5.fc13

* Sun Mar 14 2010 Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org - 4.7-5
- fix implicit linking when checking for QtHelp and QtAssistant
- remove Python 3 code from Python 2.6 directory, fixes FTBFS (#564633)

* Sat Mar 13 2010 Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org - 4.7-4
- BR qt-assistant-adp-devel

* Tue Feb 23 2010 Than Ngo t...@redhat.com - 4.7-3
- fix multilib conflict because of timestamp

* Sun Feb 14 2010 Rex Dieter rdie...@fedoraproject.org - 4.7-2
- rebuild


abrt-1.0.8-3.fc13
-
* Sat Mar 13 2010 Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com 1.0.8-3
- fixed kerneloops reporting rhbz#570081
- fixed Source url
- fixed debuginfo-install to work on F13
  - improved debuginfo-install (vda.li...@googlemail.com)
  - fix debuginfo-install to work with yum = 3.2.26 (jmosk...@redhat.com)

* Wed Mar 03 2010 Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com 1.0.8-2
- fix initscript even more (npajk...@redhat.com)
- remove -R2 from yum command line


aide-0.14-1.fc13

* Tue Mar 16 2010 Steve Grubb sgr...@redhat.com - 0.14-1
- New upstream release final 0.14


anaconda-13.35-1.fc13
-
* Mon Mar 15 2010 David Lehman dleh...@redhat.com - 13.35-1
- Fully qualify _ped.IOException. (dlehman)

* Mon Mar 15 2010 David Lehman dleh...@redhat.com - 13.34-1
- parted.PartedDisk can throw IOExceptions too (#573539) (hdegoede)
- Fix recognition of partitions on mdraid arrays (#569462) (hdegoede)
- Use the disk name from kickstart in the shouldClear error message.
  (clumens)
- Fix displaying error messages on cleanup/remove callback problems
  (#572893). (clumens)
- Before running shouldClear, make sure a real disk was specified (#572523).
  (clumens)
- exception.py: switch to tty1 before exit (#569071) (akozumpl)
- Preserve encryption setting when re-editing new encrypted LVs. (#568547)
  (dlehman)
- Never pass Not applicable as mountpoint to format constructors.
  (dlehman)
- Fix up device dialogs' handling of preexisting formatting. (dlehman)
- Set up devices using their original formats for certain action types.
  (#565848) (dlehman)
- Keep a handle to devices' original format instance. (#565848) (dlehman)
- Tell ld.so and friends not to use hardware optimized libs (#572178)
  (pjones)
- By default, libcurl does not appear to follow redirects (#572528).
  (clumens)
- Use '--keyword=P_:1,2' for plural gettext string extraction (#567417).
  (dcantrell)
- fix: do not initialize the install interface whenever is is accessed
  (#565872) (akozumpl)
- Select/Deselect All should only apply to the current tab (#516143,
  - Don't try to write firewall and auth information twice (#568528). (clumens)

* Thu Mar 04 2010 Chris Lumens clum...@redhat.com - 13.33-1
- On live installs, the syslog is /var/log/dmesg. (#568814). (clumens)
- Set up udev environment so anaconda's udev rules run in livecd. (#568460)
  (dlehman)
- Ignore probably-spurious disklabels on unpartitionable devices. (#567832)
  (dlehman)
- The 

Re: Automatic Provides and Requires for Python modules

2010-03-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
In general, +1 to this.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:25:18AM +0100, Aurelien Bompard wrote:
 Hi people,
 
 At the top of our Python packaging page 
 (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python), there's a note which 
 reads 'In theory /usr/lib/rpm/pythondeps.sh would also automatically 
 generate Provides lines'
 
 This is also true for python modules : distutils and setuptools have a way 
 to specify provides and requires, but those are not reflected in the RPM.
 It means that they must be entered and maintained by hand in the spec file. 
 In my opinion, this is not optimal.
 
 The perl modules have an interesting way of reflecting their dependencies in 
 the rpm: they add a dependency on perl(Module::Name). I believe the same 
 system can be applicable to python modules.
 
 Currently, there are two main packaging systems in python : distutils and 
 setuptools. Distutils declares the dependencies in an egg-info file, which 
 is RFC-822-formatted. Setuptools turns this file into a PKG-INFO file in a 
 subdirectory, and adds a requires.txt files with additional dependencies, in 
 a different format.
 
Note that in some corner cases, the egg-info might not give you what you
need.

For instance, if we were to subpackage pkg_resources separately from
setuptools we would only have one upstream egg-info that referenced
setuptools, nothing referencing pkg_resources.

Like I say, these are corner cases, though.

 The pythondeps.sh script should be able to extract requires from these 
 files. To match the dependencies, pythondeps.sh should create virtual 
 provides like python(ModuleName) = version.
 
In describing this, module name is probably not the best word.  ProjectName
or EggName might be better.  (Because there can multiple modules but they
are all described by a single name in the egg-info).

Also versions are more problematic than naming's corner cases.

* If we backport a bugfix or feature to an old version, the EggInfo may
  require a newer version than we provide even though it would work fine
  with our version.
* Upstreams frequently put a minimum version in that they have tested with
  rather than the true minimum version that the package will work with.
  That means the setup.py file (and thus egginfo)  may say it requires
  SqlAlchemy-0.5.5 but it really works with the SQLAlchemy-0.5.2 that we
  ship.

 The good news is : I've written it already ;-)
 It's based on the pythondeps.sh script from Git master (which changed a 
 little bit due to python3, see bug 532118). Also, the script does not try to 
 be too smart with versionned dependencies, because the format is a little 
 bit different in python and in rpm. For those complicated cases, handwritten 
 requirements can still be added to the spec file. The script only covers the 
 usual cases.
 
 For reference, the dependency format in distutils is described here:
 http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0314/
 The dependency format in setuptools is described here:
 http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools#declaring-dependencies
 

Note: PEP about changing the version strings in distutils:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0386/

It's accepted but not yet implemented.  When it is we will have something
that we can map upstream versions to our version + release format (although,
we'd probably only use the version portion in autodeps).

Also PEPs that change the metadata format in distutils:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0376/
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0390/

 A patch would not make much sense due to the size of the addition, so here's 
 the full script: http://aurelien.bompard.org/projects/divers/pythondeps.sh
 
Some specifics:
# Handle alpha and rc releases: the version comparator will be rpm, not
# python, so 1.0rc1  1.0. Deal with it by turning 1.0rc1 into 1.0-0.rc1
# (which is the recommended naming scheme anyway)
echo $pyver | sed -e 's/\([0-9.]\+\)\([a-z].*\)/\1-0.\2/g'

Actually, the naming scheme for Fedora would be:
  1.0-0.1.rc1, 1.0-0.2.rc1, etc.

If I'm reading the code correctly, these versions just get put in the
autodeps, though, so that shouldn't matter.  However, what does matter is
that this sequence won't be parsed so that the sequence of versions is
correct:

0.9 = 0.9
1.0rc1  = 1.0-0.rc1
1.0 = 1.0
1.0post1= 1.0-0.post1

That would order as 0.9, 1.0, 1.0-0.rc1, 1.0-0.post1

You want something more like this:
0.9 = 0.9-1
1.0rc1  = 1.0-0.rc1
1.0 = 1.0-1
1.0post1= 1.0-1.post1

0 and 1 are always added and denote pre release versus post release.

The next problem is deciding which version strings you're going to target.
Current distutils, setuptools, and the distutils PEP have three different
algorithms for comparing versions.  You can throw out current distutils
because no one use it.  Setuptools is something that the python community is
trying to get rid of but it's the current de facto standard.  It's version
algorithm is a huge mess because it makes a lot of guesses about 

Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 09:13 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal:
 
 On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Peter Robinson wrote:
 
  On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote

  Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
  this?
 
  I've found with Moblin and Sugar that one of the easiest/quickest but
  probably not the most eloquent way is to do a 'rpm -qa | sort 
  rpm-out' and then using some horrible diff hacking to get a rough idea
  of what's changed.
 
 
 rpm -qa --qf %{name}\n | sort  rpm-out
 
 then you can diff the two more easily.

I know how to use rpm, but as long as I don't have all the nightlies
there is not much to compare. All I can compare is the F12 spin with the
latest nightly and this wont tell me much about what happened in the
meantime.

Is there an easy way to get previous versions of a package if I have
full n-v-r, say from koji?

 -sv

Regards,
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libgpod rebuilds needed in F-13/devel

2010-03-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
Heya,

libgpod has been rebuilt with a new libimobiledevice (1.0.0) and all the
applications that link against libgpod will need a rebuilt.

Rhythmbox is being rebuilt as we speak, I'll let others to their
respective owners.

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:

 Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 09:13 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal:
 
  On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Peter Robinson wrote:
 
   On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote
 
   Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
   this?
  
   I've found with Moblin and Sugar that one of the easiest/quickest but
   probably not the most eloquent way is to do a 'rpm -qa | sort 
   rpm-out' and then using some horrible diff hacking to get a rough idea
   of what's changed.
 
 
  rpm -qa --qf %{name}\n | sort  rpm-out
 
  then you can diff the two more easily.

 I know how to use rpm, but as long as I don't have all the nightlies
 there is not much to compare. All I can compare is the F12 spin with the
 latest nightly and this wont tell me much about what happened in the
 meantime.

 Is there an easy way to get previous versions of a package if I have
 full n-v-r, say from koji?


You can compare F12's list with the current one.

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Re: Python 2.6.5 and 3.1.2 likely to be released at the end of the week

2010-03-22 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 15:32 -0400, Luke Macken wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:44:13AM -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 05:22:48PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote:
   On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 02:51 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 07:45:27PM -0400, David Malcolm wrote:
 Python 2.6.5 and 3.1.2 are due at the end of this week.
 
 I plan to build 2.6.5 and 3.1.2 into Fedora 14 as soon as they're
 released (though if any other maintainer wants to do this, feel free!)
 
 My feeling is that they're too late for F-13 at this point in the
 schedule [1].  Having said that, if enough people want to test them, 
 I'd
 be willing to build them, for some definition of enough (the bump 
 from
 3.1.1 to 3.1.2 may be safer than that from 2.6.4 to 2.6.5, since the
 python 3 stack isn't on the critical path [2])
 
 Dave
 
 [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule
 [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages
 
I definitely agree with bumping the python3 package.  People who want 
to try
out python3 want to be working with the latest at this point and there's
nothing critical path to break there.  On the fence about bumping the
python2.6 package.
   
   Upstream released 3.1.2 today; I've built it into Fedora 14:
   http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=162960
   
   I haven't tested it yet.  If it seems to work OK, then shall we build
   3.1.2 into Fedora 13?
   
  +1
 
 Sounds good to me, +1

I've built python 3.1.2 into Fedora 13 and created this update for it:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/python3-3.1.2-1.fc13

Please test!  (and please give positive and negative karma to that
update as appropriate)

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 14:49 -0500 schrieb Mike McGrath:
 On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
 
  Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 09:13 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal:
  
   On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Peter Robinson wrote:
  
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote
  
Any ideas what made Fedora become so fat or how to further investigate
this?
   
I've found with Moblin and Sugar that one of the easiest/quickest but
probably not the most eloquent way is to do a 'rpm -qa | sort 
rpm-out' and then using some horrible diff hacking to get a rough idea
of what's changed.
  
  
   rpm -qa --qf %{name}\n | sort  rpm-out
  
   then you can diff the two more easily.
 
  I know how to use rpm, but as long as I don't have all the nightlies
  there is not much to compare. All I can compare is the F12 spin with the
  latest nightly and this wont tell me much about what happened in the
  meantime.
 
  Is there an easy way to get previous versions of a package if I have
  full n-v-r, say from koji?
 
 
 You can compare F12's list with the current one.

Sure, but this wont help me understand what happened between 
2009-11-11 and 2009-11-19 (+22 MB LXDE, +17 MB Xfce) or between
2010-01-05 and 2010-01-09 (+18 MB LXDE, +14 MB Xfce)

   -Mike

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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:09:27 +0100, Christoph wrote:

rpm -qa --qf %{name}\n | sort  rpm-out
   
then you can diff the two more easily.
  
   I know how to use rpm, but as long as I don't have all the nightlies
   there is not much to compare. All I can compare is the F12 spin with the
   latest nightly and this wont tell me much about what happened in the
   meantime.
  
   Is there an easy way to get previous versions of a package if I have
   full n-v-r, say from koji?
  
  
  You can compare F12's list with the current one.
 
 Sure, but this wont help me understand what happened between 
 2009-11-11 and 2009-11-19 (+22 MB LXDE, +17 MB Xfce) or between
 2010-01-05 and 2010-01-09 (+18 MB LXDE, +14 MB Xfce)

Do you have the repodata for those days?
Then you could tweak /usr/bin/repodiff (from yum-utils) and make it
examine the changes more closely.
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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 22.03.2010, 21:24 +0100 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
 On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:09:27 +0100, Christoph wrote:
 
 rpm -qa --qf %{name}\n | sort  rpm-out

 then you can diff the two more easily.
   
I know how to use rpm, but as long as I don't have all the nightlies
there is not much to compare. All I can compare is the F12 spin with the
latest nightly and this wont tell me much about what happened in the
meantime.
   
Is there an easy way to get previous versions of a package if I have
full n-v-r, say from koji?
   
   
   You can compare F12's list with the current one.
  
  Sure, but this wont help me understand what happened between 
  2009-11-11 and 2009-11-19 (+22 MB LXDE, +17 MB Xfce) or between
  2010-01-05 and 2010-01-09 (+18 MB LXDE, +14 MB Xfce)
 
 Do you have the repodata for those days?

Unfortunately not and I have not idea how/where to get it.

Regards,
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rpm not finding python dependency

2010-03-22 Thread Léon Keijser
Hi,

I'm trying to create a package [1], and run into a slight problem when
running rpmlint on the resulting rpm:

$ rpmlint -i googsystray-1.1.4-2.fc12.noarch.rpm 
googsystray.noarch: E: explicit-lib-dependency python-xlib
You must let rpm find the library dependencies by itself. Do not put
unneeded explicit Requires: tags.


If i don't specify the 'Requires: python-xlib' line [2], the application
doesn't work, because rpm won't find the dependency by itself. Since
rpmlint shouldn't output any errors, i'm somewhat at a loss here. 

Advice would be welcome.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=545720
[2] http://leon.fedorapeople.org/files/googsystray/googsystray.spec

$ rpm -q rpm rpmlint
rpm-4.7.2-1.fc12.x86_64
rpmlint-0.95-2.fc12.noarch


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Re: Fedora has become fat!

2010-03-22 Thread Seth Vidal


On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:

 then you can diff the two more easily.

 I know how to use rpm, but as long as I don't have all the nightlies
 there is not much to compare. All I can compare is the F12 spin with the
 latest nightly and this wont tell me much about what happened in the
 meantime.


Right so here's what I would do:

1. compare you spin in f12 to f13a - look to see what new pkgs are added 
and how much space that takes up
2. compare per-pkg how much they've grown - add that up
3. see if either of theabove account for the growth and if either of the 
above are fixable
4. then start chasing down individual changes in pkgs that could have 
caused the growth

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Re: rpm not finding python dependency

2010-03-22 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 03/22/2010 04:33 PM, Léon Keijser wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to create a package [1], and run into a slight problem when
 running rpmlint on the resulting rpm:
 
 $ rpmlint -i googsystray-1.1.4-2.fc12.noarch.rpm 
 googsystray.noarch: E: explicit-lib-dependency python-xlib
 You must let rpm find the library dependencies by itself. Do not put
 unneeded explicit Requires: tags.
 
 
 If i don't specify the 'Requires: python-xlib' line [2], the application
 doesn't work, because rpm won't find the dependency by itself. Since
 rpmlint shouldn't output any errors, i'm somewhat at a loss here. 
 
 Advice would be welcome.

Safe to ignore. rpmlint assumes all dependencies which contain the
explicit string lib are traditional library (with .so files inside)
packages and can be autodetected, as opposed to explicitly stated.

In your case, the explicit Requires is correct.

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Re: Stable Release Updates types proposal

2010-03-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 07:14 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Terry Barnaby wrote:
  Although I understand Fedora's frontier status, I think the graphics
  system changes could probably have been handled better. After the kernel
  and core shared libraries the graphics system is probably the next
  essential core OS subsystem (At least for desktop systems). It seems most
  of peoples stability issues with fedora stem from graphics. I do
  understand the difficulty with the multitude of different graphics
  chipsets out there. But this is where Fedora could shine with its close
  links to upstream development. It would have been good to be very upfront
  with this and get a group to define and setup some basic graphics tests
  and loudly promote users to perform tests with these both pre-release and
  post-release. This with a website with test status versus graphics
  board/chipsets and with good easy linkages to Bugzilla (more user
  friendly) and perhaps a separate graphics-testing repository to keep quick
  graphics updates away from the stable release etc. If enough upstream
  developers, Fedora packagers and testing users were in on this I think
  great inroads into getting stable and good graphics systems would be made
  in a relatively short time.
 
 Unfortunately, a sizeable portion of our users installs some crappy 
 proprietary driver, sometimes not even a properly packaged one, but using 
 some broken installation script directly from the hardware vendor's website, 
 making this all moot. :-( While it is true that our Free drivers are far 
 from perfect as well, most graphics-related problems are actually due to 
 proprietary drivers. Just say NO to proprietary drivers!

This isn't really true. Or at least, not a productive perspective for
improving Fedora. There are certainly a lot of bugs in the open drivers
shipped with Fedora, and there's a lot of work to do to fix them all. I
sent my own reply to Terry explaining how we're handling this at
present, but just waving the 'it's all NVIDIA's fault' stick at the
problem won't make it go away :)
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Re: Evolution trash folder

2010-03-22 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2010-03-22 at 12:01 +0100, Milan Crha wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 20:53 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
  No checkmarks checked or unchecked that I could find.  The only other
  explanation is if I did a clean setup (no backups) and see what that
  does.  I might do that with a clean/new test user and see what
  happens.
 
   Hi,
 try to run Evolution from console, and see what it says, if anything, in
 time of deleting the message.
 
 One thing I do not understand from your description, when you delete
 message (press a Del button), the message is marked as deleted and
 either is removed from the message list or shown there with a strike out
 font. It should be also visible in the account's Trash folder. Because
 your Folder-Expunge does correct thing, then the message is marked as
 deleted. Thus I guess your UI is not showing the right thing, does it do
 at least one of the above mentioned? Maybe the index for a Trash folder
 is corrupted for some reason; you can try to stop Evolution and move out
 your ~/.evolution/mail/imap/account/folders.db file, but as it
 contains all your account index, then the next start will take some
 time, till it fills it again. Or you can drop only all Trash related
 tables from there, but it's not as that easy to do. If something goes
 wrong, then return the folders.db file back.

Yes the message was indeed marked with a strike out font, but it was
never sent to the trash folder.  I did already remove my .evolution
folder and restarted evolution again, and now the emails at least get
moved to the trash folder when deleted.  The only thing I see now, is
when I close/exit evolution it doesn't automatically empty the trash
folder, and it is set in my preferences to do it every time.

Mike


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load a program automaticly as root(xinitrc-common not work any more)

2010-03-22 Thread yhch
Hi
I used to use xinitrc-common to load my program as root automaticly,but this 
mothod stop working since FC11.What can I do if I still need to load my program 
as root (in system scripts)?
Any kind of help will be appreciated because I can't manage to find any Docs 
about this change at all.

Roy
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bug no: 552456 E620 not detected - 2nd Request

2010-03-22 Thread Steven James Drinnan
Hi all,

I am trying to get my k3715 to work in F12 or F13. I have filled this
bug report https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552456 . It
reports by dmesg as a E620.

The modem works fine in F11 with no usb_modeswitch. But by default the
CD Rom and Memory card a re disabled by default.

In F12 and F13 the option driver reports a callback error of 108. But
the CD Rom and Memory card are enabled. I tried usb_modeswitch. but this
has no effect.

In searching this seem to be Linux. wide problem across all
distributions. And some distributions say that it is fixed. (not
confirmed)

See my bug report for more details. 

I am just trying to get this long standing problem fixed. Any help that
I can be please ask.

Steven Drinnan 

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Re: usb_modeswitch by default

2010-03-22 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
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 Just to clarify,  does ModemManager need to depend on usb_modeswitch?
 
It currently does not.
Dan,
I guess its not such a bad idea to make it depend?

 Rahul


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[Test-Announce] Fedora 13 Beta TC#1 Available Now!

2010-03-22 Thread He Rui
Hi all,

F13 Beta TC1 has been uploaded, please follow the guidance in the below
links:

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Many thanks,
Hurry  



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Subject: [Test-Announce] Fedora 13 Beta TC#1 Validation Test
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:00:25 +0800

Greetings,

Fedora 13 Beta Test Compose test is arriving[1]. Thanks for the ones who
attended/paid attention on alpha test and please continue enjoying the
validation test on Beta. This time all the alpha and beta priority test
cases of installation[2] and desktop[3] should be passed to ensure they
meet the Beta Release Criteria [4]. 

You can follow the guidance and download the images(once it's available) to 
execute test cases at:

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test


Don't hesitate to leave your results on the above pages and please feel free to 
discuss queries/problems/issues on #fedora-qa or t...@lists.fedoraproject.org.


Many thanks,
Hurry

[1]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-quality-tasks.html

[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria


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[Bug 575807] New: Currently no EL builds for perl-Text-WikiFormat

2010-03-22 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Currently no EL builds for perl-Text-WikiFormat

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575807

   Summary: Currently no EL builds for perl-Text-WikiFormat
   Product: Fedora EPEL
   Version: el5
  Platform: All
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
  Severity: medium
  Priority: low
 Component: perl-Text-WikiFormat
AssignedTo: tcall...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: trem...@tremble.org.uk
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: tcall...@redhat.com,
fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com,
trem...@tremble.org.uk
Classification: Fedora


I (tremble) am currently trying to get the various packages we use at work into
EPEL, perl-Text-WikiFormat is one of these packages.  

While there is already an EL-5 branch for this package there do not appear to
be any EPEL builds.  Would it be possible for you to build perl-Text-WikiFormat
and add it to EL-5 EPEL?

I am willing to co-maintain the EL branch (and Fedora branches) if you would
like.

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rpms/perl-Text-WikiFormat/EL-5 perl-Text-WikiFormat.spec, 1.4, 1.5 sources, 1.4, 1.5

2010-03-22 Thread Tom Callaway
Author: spot

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Text-WikiFormat/EL-5
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv24629

Modified Files:
perl-Text-WikiFormat.spec sources 
Log Message:
sync to devel


Index: perl-Text-WikiFormat.spec
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Text-WikiFormat/EL-5/perl-Text-WikiFormat.spec,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- perl-Text-WikiFormat.spec   31 Mar 2006 16:52:19 -  1.4
+++ perl-Text-WikiFormat.spec   22 Mar 2010 13:43:30 -  1.5
@@ -1,16 +1,15 @@
 Name:   perl-Text-WikiFormat
-Version:0.78
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Version:0.79
+Release:5%{?dist}
 Summary:Translate Wiki formatted text into other formats
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
-License:GPL or Artistic
+License:GPL+ or Artistic
 URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Text-WikiFormat/
 Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/C/CH/CHROMATIC/Text-WikiFormat-%{version}.tar.gz
 BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
 
 BuildArch:  noarch
-BuildRequires:  perl
 BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Build)
 BuildRequires:  perl(URI::Escape)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Scalar::Util) = 1.14
@@ -41,7 +40,6 @@ chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
 
 
 %check
-mv t/developer/0-signature.t t/developer/0-signature.t.disable
 PERL_RUN_ALL_TESTS=1 ./Build test
 
 
@@ -53,10 +51,25 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
 %doc ARTISTIC Changes GPL README
 %{perl_vendorlib}/Text/
-%{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
+%{_mandir}/man3/*.3pm*
 
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Dec  4 2009 Stepan Kasal ska...@redhat.com - 0.79-5
+- rebuild against perl 5.10.1
+
+* Sun Jul 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.79-4
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Thu Feb 26 2009 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.79-3
+- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Mass_Rebuild
+
+* Thu Mar 06 2008 Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com - 0.79-2
+Rebuild for new perl
+
+* Fri Jun 29 2007 Jose Pedro Oliveira jpo at di.uminho.pt - 0.79-1
+- Update to 0.79.
+
 * Fri Mar 31 2006 Jose Pedro Oliveira jpo at di.uminho.pt - 0.78-1
 - Update to 0.78.
 


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Text-WikiFormat/EL-5/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.4
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -p -r1.4 -r1.5
--- sources 31 Mar 2006 16:52:19 -  1.4
+++ sources 22 Mar 2010 13:43:31 -  1.5
@@ -1 +1 @@
-646c0ea411247a0293eb69a216451beb  Text-WikiFormat-0.78.tar.gz
+7f3e888ff898f67332216c4a25523f30  Text-WikiFormat-0.79.tar.gz

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Re: vendor vs core?

2010-03-22 Thread Marcela Maslanova

- Chris Weyl cw...@alumni.drew.edu wrote:

 One thing we didn't talk about here -- given that the independent
 subpackages are replacing dual-lifed core modules, should we be using
 %perl_archlib/_privlib rather than %perl_vendorarch/_vendorlib?  I
 realise this is mainly nomenclature here, as we currently have one
 set
 to the other, but it would seem to make sense (especially if we go
 back to having distinct vendor directories).
 
 I have a preference to using the core macros vs vendor macros, but am
 ok with it either way as long as we realize that we're making a
 choice
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[Bug 575807] Currently no EL builds for perl-Text-WikiFormat

2010-03-22 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575807

--- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2010-03-22 
09:54:04 EDT ---
perl-Text-WikiFormat-0.79-5.el5 has been submitted as an update for Fedora EPEL
5.
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File Audio-Beep-0.11.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by hpejakle

2010-03-22 Thread Jan Klepek
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Audio-Beep:

6956a8749c8dbdcbd44577f7900e85dc  Audio-Beep-0.11.tar.gz
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rpms/perl-Audio-Beep/devel import.log, NONE, 1.1 perl-Audio-Beep.spec, NONE, 1.1 .cvsignore, 1.1, 1.2 sources, 1.1, 1.2

2010-03-22 Thread Jan Klepek
Author: hpejakle

Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Audio-Beep/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv26122/devel

Modified Files:
.cvsignore sources 
Added Files:
import.log perl-Audio-Beep.spec 
Log Message:
* Mon Mar 15 2010 Jan Klepek 0.11-1
- Specfile autogenerated by cpanspec 1.78.




--- NEW FILE import.log ---
perl-Audio-Beep-0_11-1_fc11:HEAD:perl-Audio-Beep-0.11-1.fc11.src.rpm:1269295229


--- NEW FILE perl-Audio-Beep.spec ---
Name:   perl-Audio-Beep
Version:0.11
Release:1%{?dist}
Summary:Audio::Beep Perl module
License:GPL+ or Artistic
Group:  Development/Libraries
URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Audio-Beep/
Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/G/GI/GIULIENK/Audio-Beep-%{version}.tar.gz
BuildRoot:  %{_tmppath}/%{name}-%{version}-%{release}-root-%(%{__id_u} -n)
BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
Requires:   beep
BuildArch:  noarch

%{?perl_default_filter}

%description
Audio::Beep - Perl module to use your computer beeper in fancy ways

%prep
%setup -q -n Audio-Beep-%{version}
chmod -x music/*.pl
%build
%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor OPTIMIZE=$RPM_OPT_FLAGS
make %{?_smp_mflags}

%install
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT

find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name '*.bs' -size 0 -exec rm -f {} \;
find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null \;

%{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*

%check
make test

%clean
rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT

%files
%defattr(-,root,root,-)
%doc Changes README music
%{perl_vendorlib}/Audio*
%{_mandir}/man3/*

%changelog
* Mon Mar 15 2010 Jan Klepek 0.11-1
- Specfile autogenerated by cpanspec 1.78.


Index: .cvsignore
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Audio-Beep/devel/.cvsignore,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- .cvsignore  19 Mar 2010 20:09:02 -  1.1
+++ .cvsignore  22 Mar 2010 22:01:42 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+Audio-Beep-0.11.tar.gz


Index: sources
===
RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-Audio-Beep/devel/sources,v
retrieving revision 1.1
retrieving revision 1.2
diff -u -p -r1.1 -r1.2
--- sources 19 Mar 2010 20:09:02 -  1.1
+++ sources 22 Mar 2010 22:01:42 -  1.2
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+6956a8749c8dbdcbd44577f7900e85dc  Audio-Beep-0.11.tar.gz

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