me-tv orphaned

2010-05-27 Thread Stefan Grosse
Dear list,

I just asked Zarko Pintar (grof) if he still maintains me-tv 
(application to watch dvb-t tv). He tells me that he is not.
Could someone pick it up, please?

Thanks!
Stefan Grosse

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8486

  From: Zarko Pintar zarko.pin...@...

  To: Stefan Grossestefan.gro...@...

  Sorry, but no, I am not!

  And I do not know who care about this package now


  regards,
  Zarko

  On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Stefan Grosse
  stefan.gro...@...  wrote:

Hi Zarko,
  
are you still maintaining me-tv on Fedora? There have been several
updates (current is 1.2.4 but in Fedora latest is 1.1.6) of that
program. Would you mind to start a new build?

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Re: me-tv orphaned

2010-05-27 Thread Chen Lei
2010/5/27 Stefan Grosse singularit...@gmx.net:
 Dear list,

 I just asked Zarko Pintar (grof) if he still maintains me-tv
 (application to watch dvb-t tv). He tells me that he is not.
 Could someone pick it up, please?

 Thanks!
 Stefan Grosse

 http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8486

   From: Zarko Pintar zarko.pin...@...

  To: Stefan Grossestefan.gro...@...

  Sorry, but no, I am not!

  And I do not know who care about this package now


  regards,
  Zarko

  On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Stefan Grosse
  stefan.gro...@...  wrote:

    Hi Zarko,
  
    are you still maintaining me-tv on Fedora? There have been several
    updates (current is 1.2.4 but in Fedora latest is 1.1.6) of that
    program. Would you mind to start a new build?

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You should ask his to orphan it on pkgdb, then others can take this
package and make an update.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/me-tv


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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Jeremy Sanders
drago01 wrote:

 Well spawing your logic further means we should avoid compiled
 programs at all, what if I want configure $app by editing its source
 code?
 Oh wait it is written in C ...
 
 If it goes down to want to edit scripts for configuration reasons
 (which isn't sane anyway) compared to a faster an cleaner boot process
 I'd opt for the later.
 
 Seriously source code is NOT and never was intended to be a
 configuration system period.

It's a great advantage to have non-compiled programs on the system which can 
be edited:
 - Debugging packaged python programs
 - Customizing user interfaces
 - Understanding logic and parameters

That's speaking as a developer and someone who does some sysadmin work.

The overhead of a simple scripting language like Lua, awk, Python or Perl is 
minimal compared to the fork cost. You won't notice the difference between a 
Lua startup script and a C one.

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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Jeremy Sanders
Bill Nottingham wrote:

 Jeremy Sanders (jer...@jeremysanders.net) said:
 Something like Lua would be very good. The overheads over C would be
 minimal, and it would have the advantage of being editable.
 
 I've had to edit an init script to get something working properly many
 times.
 
 If you're going to want them to be editable to pass the
 lowest-common-denominator test of whatever admins might be editing them, I
 think bash is probably the only reasonable choice.

Perhaps, though C is completely non editable to many sysadmins and lacks 
easy to use builtin routines helpful in scripting (maps, lists, tuples, 
string manipulation).

At least a simple Lua script should be comprehensible to the average 
sysadmin in case they need to debug or trace something, even if they never 
write anything.

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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Jeremy Sanders
drago01 wrote:


 I beg to differ. I've had to create or modify initscripts quite often,
 either as a sysadmin or a packager.
 
 Again the sysadmin case just implies that something *else* is broken.
 Well if changing over to C does only get rid of this disease it
 would be enough of a gain.
 It would force broken apps to be fixed, and let admins edit
 *configuration* files and not source code.

What rubbish. For instance, we customised an early Fedora to work on a 
diskless NFS rooted system, mainly by mucking around with init scripts. 
Being able to easily edit these files made this project work and work 
quickly. Trying to get upstream to special case our particular setup 
wouldn't have happened.

You're suggesting hammering shut the insides of linux to stop people playing 
around and reducing freedom - sounds like you want Fedora to be like the 
products of other large propitiatory systems.

There is a clear case for having an open and completely configurable system. 
It's not going to cost 1 sec of bootup either.

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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 05/26/2010 02:54 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:


 On Wed, 26 May 2010, Simo Sorce wrote:

 While you don't edit them *all* the time, it is something that is done
 regularly, and it is something most admins can do with ease.
 Turn them in a C program and you left admins out in the cold, most of
 them.

 I would be very, very wary of accepting a C init script.
 An unmanageable system is a useless system.

 +20 million.

 I couldn't agree more. They need to be scripts, considering how seldom
 they actually run it makes even less sense to chase down optimization in
 them by making them compiled.

 -sv


We mainly speek about rc.sysinit, which most of you don't touch, because it 
would be overwritten the next initscripts update anyway.

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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 05/26/2010 06:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 12:42 +0200, drago01 wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Casey Dahlincdah...@redhat.com  wrote:
 On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:45:07PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Tue, 25.05.10 10:21, Casey Dahlin (cdah...@redhat.com) wrote:
 [...]
 3) Cutting down on the forking by replacing some of the shell scripts... 
 cool
3a) With C code... really?

 This does make a lot of sense to me, initscripts being scripts is a
 major slowdown factor
 by itself.

 It is not like you want to edit the scripts all the time, so there is
 no reason for them being scripts.

 I beg to differ. I've had to create or modify initscripts quite often,
 either as a sysadmin or a packager. If this is now going to require C
 coding skills, I'm not going to be able to do it. I don't think it's
 safe to assume that everyone who needs to write or modify an initscript
 is going to know C. What about people who write apps that need
 initscripts in some other language?

unless you want rc.sysinit changes, you would have no problem with systemd to 
modify the system to your needs

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Orphaning most of my packages

2010-05-27 Thread Alexander Kahl
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Hello,

as there is no more use for most of my packages at work anymore I don't
find the time to adequately take care of them. Please show your love by
adopting one or the other:

php-channel-phing -- Adds phing channel to PEAR
php-channel-phpdb -- Adds phpdb channel to PEAR
php-channel-symfony -- Adds symfony project channel to PEAR
php-pear-creole -- A database abstraction layer for PHP5
php-pear-pake -- PHP5 project builder system
php-pear-phing -- A project build system based on Apache Ant
php-pear-propel_generator -- An ORM framework for PHP5 - generator
 component
php-pear-propel_runtime -- An ORM framework for PHP5 - runtime component

Thank you
Alex

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Re: fc12 in F13

2010-05-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/27/2010 04:23 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:

 They seem to play well together.
 If it's not broken, no need to fix it.
   

You might want to run package-clean --dupes  yum list extras and yum
check to verify if things are ok.

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Privilege escalation policy and desktop_admin_r

2010-05-27 Thread Tim Waugh
I have a question about how our privilege escalation policy interacts
with the desktop_admin_r group.

Is a member user of desktop_admin_r considered an unprivileged user?

Tim.
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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:10:35AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
 We mainly speek about rc.sysinit, which most of you don't touch, because it 
 would be overwritten the next initscripts update anyway.

I would never touch it with a permanent change, but I definitely make
debugging changes to it often enough. That's not down to it being a shell
script though; it's because it's a crufty mess.

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Re: Orphaning email2trac

2010-05-27 Thread Konstantin Ryabitsev
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
 This was a failed experiment with fedora hosted, and I no longer need to
 manage this package.  If anybody wants it, it's now an orphan in pkgdb.

I've taken over for now, since I submitted a few patches for it
upstream in the past few weeks.

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Re: gcc 4.4 vs. 4.5 (was: Re: rawhide report: 20100526 changes)

2010-05-27 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
 Rawhide Report wrote:
 gcc-4.4.4-5.fc14
 
 * Tue May 25 2010 Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com 4.4.4-5
 - update from gcc-4_4-branch

 Can we get 4.5 for F14?

+1. Would be nice to test LLVM's new dragonegg compiler back-end once
4.5 lands in Rawhide.


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rawhide report: 20100527 changes

2010-05-27 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu May 27 08:15:04 UTC 2010

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Re: Orphaning most of my packages

2010-05-27 Thread Christof Damian
I will try to sort it out this evening.

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 14:46, Remi Collet colletr...@free.fr wrote:
 Le 27/05/2010 12:40, Christof Damian a écrit :
 I will take:
 - php-channel-symfony

 Great.
 Can you please ask for EL-6 for it ? (and ask for build)
 See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=592528

 regards.
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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Adams wrote:
 No, it isn't.  It makes the process much more opaque to system
 administrators and makes it harder to make quick fixes and simple local
 changes.

Editing the code is the wrong way to make simple local changes.

 If there isn't a measurable and significant speed improvement, it is
 definately a waste of time to replace working scripts.

According to the explanations given elsewhere in the thread, the idea is to 
have much of the stuff done directly inside the init system instead of 
softcoding (cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Softcoding, 
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Soft_Coding.aspx) it as scripts.

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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 03:14:54PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
  That's not down to it being a shell script though; it's because it's a
  crufty mess.
 … which is exactly why it should be handled inside the init system instead 
 of being that mess of a shell script. :-)

Maybe. That cruft is all there for a reason, and it'll take a lot of work to
disentangle the good reasons from the ones that should be left behind.
Putting it all in an opaque binary seems _less_ conducive to that rather
than more.


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Re: systemd (Was Re: tmpfs for strategic directories)

2010-05-27 Thread drago01
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jeremy Sanders
jer...@jeremysanders.net wrote:
 drago01 wrote:
 [..]
 You're suggesting hammering shut the insides of linux to stop people playing
 around and reducing freedom - sounds like you want Fedora to be like the
 products of other large propitiatory systems.

What?

You can edit it anytime it is OPEN SOURCE ( you have the freedom to do
whatever the OSS license used allows you *including* editing).
Configuration is not supposed to be done by editing code.
The whole C vs. bash aside, even editing bash scripts which are part
of the system for _configuration_ reasons is *wrong*.

Separating source code and configuration is just well designed
software not non free software.

Anyway I am done with this discussion.
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Re: Privilege escalation policy and desktop_admin_r

2010-05-27 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 12:01 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote:
 I have a question about how our privilege escalation policy interacts
 with the desktop_admin_r group.
 
 Is a member user of desktop_admin_r considered an unprivileged user?
 

No, he or she is considered privileged.

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Re: Remove 1507 Package(s) ?

2010-05-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 26 May 2010 14:06, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:


 On Wed, 26 May 2010, Tomasz Torcz wrote:

 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 10:58:29AM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
 ...
 nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.6-1.2.fc11.x86_64

 my version is currently at:
 nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.4-19.fc12.i686
 on a fully updated F13 box.

  That's look like a problem betwee F11 and F12:
 % rpmdev-vercmp nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.6-1.2.fc11.x86_64 
 nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.4-19.fc12.i686
 0:nss-softokn-freebl-3.12.6-1.2.fc11.x86_64 is newer

 .6  .4

 you're absolutely right.

 Try doing a yum downgrade to the nss-softokn-freebl in f13.

 And then file a bug on it.


I've just seen exactly the same thing with a system going from F12 to
F13 with preupgrade. BZ filed here:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596840

As Seth suggested, this resolved the issue for me:

yum downgrade nss-softokn-freebl nss-softokn

I wonder if it should be added to the common problems wiki page.

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Re: fc12 in F13

2010-05-27 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 In the cases where you have an fc12 package and there is no fc13
 package, though, that's not necessarily any kind of problem, it just
 means the package wasn't rebuilt for F13, or if it was, the rebuild
 failed. The rebuild failing would be something we'd want to fix over
 time, but if the fc12 package works, there's no intrinsic problem here
 for a user to worry about.

There are two cases to distinguish.  Packages with the fc12 dist tag
that are also in F13, such as zlib-1.2.3-23.fc12
(https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=124463), are
fine.  Packages that are not in F13, such as gdevilspie, will appear in
package-cleanup --orphans output and should be considered unsupported
if one chooses to leave them installed.

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Re: Privilege escalation policy and desktop_admin_r

2010-05-27 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 08:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 The relevant bit here is the last sentence, which was intended to cover
 the whole desktop_admin_r stuff. Let me know if it's factually off.

Seeing as desktop_admin_r is actually part of the default spin, can we
add some text which explicitly exempts users in that group from the
privilege escalation policy?

In other words, can we say something along the lines of it's fine for
the default spin to ship policykit files allowing desktop_admin_r users
to do stuff without passwords being required?

Tim.
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Re: How this bug can come out of its dead-end? Any suggestions?!

2010-05-27 Thread Allann Jones
The device can be automatically mounted. It can be checked by its
label that is the original label released with the distro.

I think that should exists a relation between packages and the
repositories on a cached manner. If the repository is on a umounted
device (USB, CD/DVD-ROM) and is not possible to find it on a online
repository or does not exist a active Internet connection, should be
prompted to the user to put / plug the device and a additional thread
is on background checking if the device is mounted by label. A timeout
should be used on check thread to does not put the PackageKit to sleep
forever waiting the path to be mounted.

Should exists a functionality to collect data from the repositories on
media, giving the user the chance to put each DVD/CD on a scanning
process that is stored on the yum / PackageKit database.

Should exists a configuration option to try to search first on offline
repositories giving the user the chance to try use the media before
try to download packages from Internet.

I think that with this the PackageKit is not the responsible to mount the media.

Only ideas.


Thank you.


Best regards.



On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 5:08 AM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 05/09/2010 02:28 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
 On 09/05/10 13:34, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:

 If you have not see this at all, I've seen this frequently. Fedora
 sucks in this area for many years. I've seen it, so whatever
 arguments you bring; I KNOW that this bug IS very important and
 should be fixed.

 Currently there are various threads, about what Fedora is targeted at,
 those questions as yet rmein without a proper answr.

 Excuse me, I'm looking for a solution, not for wiping the problem
 statement.

 The solution for a new user to Linux, give hime Ubuntu-LTS.
 When he knows some more, give him Fedora.

 This is a bad argument IMO.  Many users are advanced in some areas,
 but not others.  The whole idea that Fedora is a distro for advanced
 users therefore it should be hard to use is absurd.  The ability to
 install packages from a DVD just as easily as from the repos would be
 useful to a great many.

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Re: NVR email I just sent

2010-05-27 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:28:08AM -0700, John Reiser wrote:
 greater for f12: x86info (davej )
  f12 = 1:x86info-1.25-1.45.fc12.src
  f13 = 1:x86info-1.25-1.44.fc13.src

   These are actually the same, (I did two commits in f12, and combined
   both when I updated f13).
   
   is it worth rebuilding just to get it off the list ?
  
  Yes.
  
   It seems kinda pointless to push an update when nothing changes at all.
  
  The _name_ changes, and that is important because the name has semantic 
  meaning.

ok, rebuilt, and update pushed out.

thanks,

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Re: banshee-1 hang during playing video overnight

2010-05-27 Thread Mat Booth
On 27 May 2010 02:56, Luming Yu luming...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Luming Yu luming...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Rakesh Pandit rakesh.pan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 On 26 May 2010 08:16, Luming Yu wrote:
 Hi there,

 I happen to see a banshee-1 hang after it was accidentally left
 repeatedly playing two videos (big-buck-bunny.ogv and kittens.ogv)
 overnight.
 Any insight and suggestions to the hang will be very appreciated.


 Please report it on bugzilla (if not already done) with all
 information and follow up with maintainer.
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595997


 Hmmm no responses ?  Anyone knows what's going on from the back trace?
 Please let me know what you need to proceed further..

 if nobody cares about it, please suggest me an alternative to banshee-1..



Please have patience, you only posted a day ago! Not every one reads
the list everyday. (Especially if they are particularly fond of
staying sane...)

Please post follow ups in the bugzilla ticket as you were advised to above.

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Re: Remove 1507 Package(s) ?

2010-05-27 Thread James Antill
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 17:27 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
 On 27 May 2010 16:43, Jonathan Underwood jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've just seen exactly the same thing with a system going from F12 to
  F13 with preupgrade. BZ filed here:
 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596840
 
  As Seth suggested, this resolved the issue for me:
 
  yum downgrade nss-softokn-freebl nss-softokn
 
  I wonder if it should be added to the common problems wiki page.
 
 Ugh. Actually I see this problem with a lot of packages where the F-12
 nvr is greater than the F-13 version:

 While it's not good packaging, most of the time these bad versions
don't cause any problems.
 If you want to get rid of them easily though, feel free to install
the yum from rawhide and run distro-sync.

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Fedora Board and FESCo Election results

2010-05-27 Thread Paul W. Frields
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The Fedora elections for the Fedora Project Board and the Fedora
Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) have concluded, and the results
follow:

The Board is electing 3 seats this cycle.  A total of 229 ballots were
cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1374 votes (229 * 6).
The results for the Fedora Board election are as follows:

 name | # votes
- --+-
 Tom Callaway (spot)  |1001
 Máirín Duffy (mizmo) | 978
 Rex Dieter (rdieter) | 772
- --+-
 Stephen Smoogen (smooge) | 559
 John McDonough (jjmcd)   | 437
 Larry Cafiero (lcafiero) | 430

Therefore, Tom Callaway, Máirín Duffy, and Rex Dieter are elected to
the Board for a full two-release term.

* * *

FESCo is electing 5 seats this cycle.  A total of 180 ballots were
cast, meaning a candidate could accumulate up to 1260 votes (180 *
7).  The results for the FESCo election are as follows:

 name | # votes
- --+-
 Bill Nottingham (notting)| 937
 Kevin Fenzi (kevin)  | 749
 Matthias Clasen (mclasen)| 681
 Kyle McMartin (kyle) | 545
 Steven M. Parrish (tuxbrewr) | 516
- --+-
 Bruno Wolff III (bruno)  | 492
 Justin M. Forbes (jforbes)   | 460

Therefore, Bill Nottingham, Kevin Fenzi, Matthias Clasen, Kyle
McMartin, and Steven M. Parrish are elected to FESCo for a full
two-release term.

* * *

Congratulations to the winning candidates, and thank you to each of
the nominees for running, and our volunteers and team members for
their assistance.

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