gettext-0.18 built

2010-06-10 Thread Jens Petersen
Headsup that I built gettext-0.18.1.1 for rawhide
and also a build for f13 updates-testing.

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/gettext-0.18.1.1-0.1.fc13

Please report any problem in bugzilla or Bodhi.

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Re: No video play back after upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-06-10 Thread Luming Yu
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Kamil Paral  wrote:
> - "Adam Williamson"  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 13:18 +0800, Luming Yu wrote:
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > After yum upgrade from f12 to f13, I see the video play back stop
>> > working (play back window is black and the progress bar seems to be
>> > always at 0)  with banshee and totem.  Flash player plug-in in FF
>> > still works as before.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions to the problem?
>>
>> Well, Xv isn't working, apparently. Need much more info.
>
> May it is similar to my bug?
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595448
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Likely so..http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/JohannaBlakley_2009X_480.mp4
mplayer (force x11) - fine , but others including "force opengl " not work.

hmm.. interesting...

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Re: dist-git project update

2010-06-10 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Jesse Keating  wrote:
> It's been a while since I last updated folks on dist-git, and in reality
> it's been a while since I last worked on it.  Fedora 13 took up all my
> time.
>
> Since my last update we've made great progress on fedpkg, the new tool
> that will replace the make system.  It is packaged up with
> fedora-packager and has the ability to do many tasks that our Make
> system handled.
...
> Based on this testing, and some decisions around git tagging and branch
> usage, we stand a good chance at being able to roll this out prior to
> the F14 branch event.  I hope you are all as excited as I am about this!

Oh hell yeah. Looking forward to the day when none of the projects I
work on are using cvs any longer (this includes you, Red Hat internal
cvs, and you, lirc upstream)...

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Re: pidgin obsoleting itself

2010-06-10 Thread Stu Tomlinson
Getting back to the topic of this original email...

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 09:40, Thomas Moschny  wrote:
> pidgin-2.7.1-2.fc13 obsoletes pidgin <= 2.7.1-1.fc13, is that meaningful?

Yes, it's meaningful because it allows updates to pidgin > 2.7.1-1 to
pull in the pidgin-evolution package without requiring an explicit
dependency on pidgin-evolution (which was the whole point of splitting
out the sub-package in the first place, see bug #581144)

> At least it causes package-manager to display an irritating (and
> somehow bogus) warning box that it's going to remove pidgin, and needs
> confirmation for that.

I'm not sure which "package-manager" this is, but I suggest the fix is
to make "package-manager" not display this warning if it is not really
removing pidgin.

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Re: bodhi statistics

2010-06-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 04:59:30 +0200
Kevin Kofler  wrote:

> > Now, if the policies that are being approved do not actually
> > benefit the greater good of the community, we have bigger problems.
> 
> Yet that's exactly the problem we're having. :-(

snip...

> So why are we now going to use the Fedora Legacy model over the
> Fedora Extras one? Does FESCo really want Fedora to fail?

I think you are presenting a false dichotomy here. 

There are many reasons why the current fedora is dissimilar to both 
Fedora extras and Fedora Legacy. I think it's worth trying to give our
users a more stable updates stream. If it turns out that we don't get
this from the things we are trying to do, we will learn from it and try
something else. 

I think we have had this discussion before, so I will leave it at that. 

kevin


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dist-git project update

2010-06-10 Thread Jesse Keating
It's been a while since I last updated folks on dist-git, and in reality
it's been a while since I last worked on it.  Fedora 13 took up all my
time.

Since my last update we've made great progress on fedpkg, the new tool
that will replace the make system.  It is packaged up with
fedora-packager and has the ability to do many tasks that our Make
system handled.  Here is a quick list:

build
chainbuild
clean
clog
clone
compile
gimmespec
install
lint
local
mockbuild
new
new_sources
prep
scratchbuild
sources
srpm
unusedpatches
verrel

Many of these targets take optional arguments which extend their
functionality and replace some other specific Make targets.  This list
is enough to get us checking code out and in, and building in koji.

On the koji front we've recently discovered the changes necessary to
build from dist-git style repos, and those changes are being polished up
and committed upstream.  We have done multiple builds successfully from
dist-git repos.

Where do we go from here?

We're ready for more wide scale testing, and to facilitate that I am
refreshing the git repos from current CVS (people with existing clones
will have to blow them away and re-clone), and getting a koji stage
instance up that we can build against (with limited builders).  We'll
then push out another fedora-packager update that has the right URLs to
build against this stage Koji and announce that it is ready for
building.

Based on this testing, and some decisions around git tagging and branch
usage, we stand a good chance at being able to roll this out prior to
the F14 branch event.  I hope you are all as excited as I am about this!

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Re: bodhi statistics

2010-06-10 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Kevin Kofler [10/06/2010 17:21] :
>
> Why are we trying to emulate the failed Fedora Legacy 
> process rather than the successful Fedora Extras one? Why can't we learn 
> from our past?

I think you're rather quick to conclude that Extras succeded because it
allowed maintainers to push to stable directly and that Legacy failed for
the lack of same.

Others have given other reasons for Legacy's failure (these have ranged
to lack of infrastructure to lack of community involvement to conspiracy
theories involving Red Hat), so if stringent QA requirements really were
the cause for Legacy's failure, it's probably best to demonstrate this
before using it as an arguement in your assertions.

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Re: pidgin obsoleting itself

2010-06-10 Thread Brandon Lozza
I think you guys are experiencing the infinite loop bug

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 05:07:16 +0200, Kevin wrote:
>
>> > It fails for a Yum install. I warn about such competing Obsoletes, because
>> > they strictly require the user to go the "yum -y update ; yum install ..."
>> > route everytime they want to install an additional package.
>>
>> Installing stuff on a non-updated system is playing with fire.
>
> The fire is added by "Obsoletes", though.
>
>> It should be
>> common sense to update your system before doing any other package operation.
>
> Which is also my recommendation.
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rawhide report: 20100610 changes

2010-06-10 Thread Rawhide Report
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Re: rfc: python 2.7?

2010-06-10 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 07:49:24AM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> python 2.7 seems to have a number of exciting improvements for the python 2 
> series.  Any plan to introduce it into fedora?
> http://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html
> 
dmalcolm just went on vacation.  He has python-2.7 packages ready to kick
off but didn't want to push them into rawhide or elsewhere that they might
break the world without being round to also help clean up the mess.  He
should be back beween the 19th and 21st.

Last we talked, he was thinking of building it into a separate koji tag and
updating all the dependent packages there before moving them into the main
repositories in one go.

If someone wants to organize the mass rebuilds in a tag, there's probably
some prep work that can get started before he gets back.  (Talk to Jesse
about whether any of that got done or not).  The python source code
underwent a whitespace cleanup this time so a lot of patches on the 2.6 code
don't apply without being worked on and I don't know that dmalcolm left
a 2.7 srpm somewhere so we're kinda stuck at prep work rather than actually
getting started.

-Toshio


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Re: bodhi statistics

2010-06-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:10:36PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>Josh Boyer wrote:
>> There are a number of people who disagree with the value of that goal,
>> including most of the past and current FESCo.
>
>You conveniently ignored the part of the mail where I pointed out WHY that 
>goal is broken.

No, that was intentional.  I was commenting directly on your abuse of someone
that was _told_ to implement towards a specific goal.  Your questioning of that
goal, while personally annoying to me, is certainly acceptable.  Your assertion
that someone's hard work and time on an implementation of that goal is
"worthless" and "meaningless" is not.  It's hurtful, poisonous and entirely
unwelcome.

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RE: F13: nouveau driver seems to swap video streams on NVIDIA NVS-290.

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Butterfield
> I guess you've hit the same bug as me, I even have the same video
> card.
> ...
> Michal

Michal: Seems pretty similar to me too.  In any event, per the prior
suggestion, I filed the following bug report:

   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=602492

Seems like we have gotten past the initial confusion with monitor
position as opposed to which connector (or connector half) the
pixel stream is being sent to.

Now that the bug report is in good hands, I'll be watching that,
rather than this list.

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F13: nouveau driver seems to swap video streams on NVIDIA NVS-290.

2010-06-10 Thread Charles Butterfield
> I guess you've hit the same bug as me, I even have the same video
> card.
> ...
> Michal

Michal: Seems pretty similar to me too.  In any event, per the prior
suggestion, I filed the following bug report:

   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=602492

Seems like we have gotten past the initial confusion with monitor
position as opposed to which connector (or connector half) the
pixel stream is being sent to.

Now that the bug report is in good hands, I'll be watching that,
rather than this list.

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Re: bodhi statistics

2010-06-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Josh Boyer wrote:
> There are a number of people who disagree with the value of that goal,
> including most of the past and current FESCo.

You conveniently ignored the part of the mail where I pointed out WHY that 
goal is broken. Why are we trying to emulate the failed Fedora Legacy 
process rather than the successful Fedora Extras one? Why can't we learn 
from our past?

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Re: No video play back after upgrading from F12 to F13

2010-06-10 Thread Kamil Paral
- "Adam Williamson"  wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 13:18 +0800, Luming Yu wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > 
> > After yum upgrade from f12 to f13, I see the video play back stop
> > working (play back window is black and the progress bar seems to be
> > always at 0)  with banshee and totem.  Flash player plug-in in FF
> > still works as before.
> > 
> > Any suggestions to the problem?
> 
> Well, Xv isn't working, apparently. Need much more info.

May it is similar to my bug?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595448
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[Bug 602616] Upgrade perl-POE-Component-Server-SimpleHTTP to 2.04 version

2010-06-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=602616

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on||602674

--- Comment #3 from Petr Pisar  2010-06-10 09:09:01 EDT ---
New package (bug #602674) perl-POE-Filter-HTTP-Parser must be completed before
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Re: syslog-ng

2010-06-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/10/2010 04:45 PM, Peter Czanik wrote:
>
> Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598961
> What is the procedure, if there is no response to such a bugzilla request? Is 
> there maintainer a timeout, like with FreeBSD? Or I have to wait patiently 
> until something happens? I was suggested, that as "provenpackager" I could do 
> this, but as I don't have any Fedora packages, it is a no-go. Or could an 
> other "provenpackager" do it for me? Updated sources, prepared by me, are 
> also in bugzilla...
> Bye,
>   

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers

Yes,  a proven packager could also do it for you.

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Re: rfc: python 2.7?

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Becker
Phil Knirsch wrote:

> On 06/10/2010 01:49 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> python 2.7 seems to have a number of exciting improvements for the python
>> 2
>> series.  Any plan to introduce it into fedora?
>> http://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html
>>
> 
> If i remember correctly the plan is to move to python-3.x at some point.
> Now that we ship Fedora-13 with a python3 "compat" package and can much
> easier adapt all things depending on it.
> 
> Not sure if there is a specific timeline for that yet though, at least
> not that i've seen.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> 
> Thanks & regards, Phil
> 

Many packages are not yet ported to python3, and probably many never will 
be.  I propose python2.7 for F14.


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Re: rfc: python 2.7?

2010-06-10 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/6/10 Steve Traylen :
> 2010/6/10 Michał Piotrowski :
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2010/6/10 Phil Knirsch :
>>> On 06/10/2010 01:49 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
 python 2.7 seems to have a number of exciting improvements for the python 2
 series.  Any plan to introduce it into fedora?
 http://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html

>>>
>>> If i remember correctly the plan is to move to python-3.x at some point.
>>> Now that we ship Fedora-13 with a python3 "compat" package and can much
>>> easier adapt all things depending on it.
>>
>> Are there any chances to get Python3 packages for EPEL6?
>
> There's an RFE here, the package needs some work but nothing
> that is not understood.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591958

Great :)

> Only open question is if it should be python3 or python3X.

Maybe both?

> Best to comment in the bug if you have opinion I would say.

Ok

> Steve.

Regards,
Michal

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Re: rfc: python 2.7?

2010-06-10 Thread Steve Traylen
2010/6/10 Michał Piotrowski :
> Hi,
>
> 2010/6/10 Phil Knirsch :
>> On 06/10/2010 01:49 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>>> python 2.7 seems to have a number of exciting improvements for the python 2
>>> series.  Any plan to introduce it into fedora?
>>> http://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html
>>>
>>
>> If i remember correctly the plan is to move to python-3.x at some point.
>> Now that we ship Fedora-13 with a python3 "compat" package and can much
>> easier adapt all things depending on it.
>
> Are there any chances to get Python3 packages for EPEL6?

There's an RFE here, the package needs some work but nothing
that is not understood.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=591958
Only open question is if it should be python3 or python3X.
Best to comment in the bug if you have opinion I would say.
Steve.

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Re: rfc: python 2.7?

2010-06-10 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2010/6/10 Phil Knirsch :
> On 06/10/2010 01:49 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> python 2.7 seems to have a number of exciting improvements for the python 2
>> series.  Any plan to introduce it into fedora?
>> http://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html
>>
>
> If i remember correctly the plan is to move to python-3.x at some point.
> Now that we ship Fedora-13 with a python3 "compat" package and can much
> easier adapt all things depending on it.

Are there any chances to get Python3 packages for EPEL6?

Regards,
Michal
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Re: rfc: python 2.7?

2010-06-10 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 06/10/2010 01:49 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> python 2.7 seems to have a number of exciting improvements for the python 2
> series.  Any plan to introduce it into fedora?
> http://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html
>

If i remember correctly the plan is to move to python-3.x at some point. 
Now that we ship Fedora-13 with a python3 "compat" package and can much 
easier adapt all things depending on it.

Not sure if there is a specific timeline for that yet though, at least 
not that i've seen.

Hope that helps,

Thanks & regards, Phil

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rfc: python 2.7?

2010-06-10 Thread Neal Becker
python 2.7 seems to have a number of exciting improvements for the python 2 
series.  Any plan to introduce it into fedora?
http://doc.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7.html

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[Bug 600631] perl-DBD-SQLite-1.29 is available

2010-06-10 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=600631

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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-DBD-SQLite-1.29-1.fc13?_csrf_token=4518b6be0f4645e9eff9e5a513d62b7cb2b59ac6

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Re: syslog-ng

2010-06-10 Thread Peter Czanik
2010-06-02 14:02 keltezéssel, Petr Lautrbach írta:
> On 06/02/2010 12:56 PM, Peter Czanik wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> 2010-05-12 17:07 keltezéssel, Daniel J Walsh írta:
>> 
 I'm looking for information, how to get a package (in my case:
 syslog-ng) updated to the latest available version. First I tried to
 contact the original syslog-ng packagers directly, but I got no response
 at all. Here on the list I got some questions about the new syslog-ng
 version, but while I update my rawhide installation quite often, I still
 did not see an update for syslog-ng.

 Now I looked around on the Fedora wiki, how I could to the packaging
 work myself. I found a page with many interesting details:
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join , but this seems
 to be for packagers joining to add a new package. How could I get an
 existing package upgraded?

 Bye,
 CzP

 
>>> Have you opened a bugzilla requesting the update?
>>>
>>> I think you need to sign up and work to become a provenpackager.
>>>
>>>   
>> I did not open a bugzilla request yet, but it does not seem to be
>> appropriate any more, as syslog-ng and related libraries seem to be
>> dropped from Fedora (it is the same on FC13 and rawhide):
>>
>> 
> You really should open bugzilla request.
>   

Done: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=598961
What is the procedure, if there is no response to such a bugzilla request? Is 
there maintainer a timeout, like with FreeBSD? Or I have to wait patiently 
until something happens? I was suggested, that as "provenpackager" I could do 
this, but as I don't have any Fedora packages, it is a no-go. Or could an other 
"provenpackager" do it for me? Updated sources, prepared by me, are also in 
bugzilla...
Bye,
CzP

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Re: bodhi statistics

2010-06-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 04:59:30AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>Luke Macken wrote:
>> Neither of you have mentioned "your" definition of the word "success".
>> Care to enlighten us?
>
>Success is the achievement of a worthwhile goal. If the original goal which 
>was set is worthless, "succeeding" at it is meaningless.

There are a number of people who disagree with the value of that goal, including
most of the past and current FESCo.

It is very clear you don't agree with the goal.  That in and of itself does
not make it worthless.  Luke's changes to bodhi are also not meaningless.  He
is implementing towards the goal/process he was given and he's doing it rather
well.

You are devaluing the work of a Fedora contributor and being generally
poisonous.  I suggest you stop this particular line of attack.

josh
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Re: F13: nouveau driver seems to swap video streams on NVIDIA NVS-290.

2010-06-10 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On Thursday, June 10, 2010 00:31:20 Charles Butterfield wrote:
> I suspect the nouveau driver is swapping or mislabeling the two video
> streams that the NVS-290 card generates.  Here are my clues:
> 
> Setup
> - Fedora-13 and nouveau driver (latest yum updates as of midnight)
> - NVIDIA NVS-290 video card
> - nouveau exposes 2 outputs to XRandR (DVI-I-1 and DVI-I-2)
> - The NVS-290 video card has a DMS-59 connector, with a
>   short DMS-59 to Dual VGA cable with VGA connectors
>   labeled 1 and 2.
> - VGA connectors #1 and #2 are connected to monitors #1(Left)
>   and #2(Right).
> 
> Behavior
> 1) At boot time, before the nouveau driver is involved, the boot text is
>output on the VGA connector labeled "1", which is connected to
> monitor
>#1 (on my left).
> 2) At GDM login time, monitor #1 is clearly assigned to the right of the
>Virtual screen (its right edge is "impenetrable") while monitor #2 is
>on the left side.  Weird, but in theory just an odd default.  But
> wait.
> 3) Inspecting the "xrandr" output, it is clear that pixels on the
> virtual
>screen that are directed to "DVI-I-1" are going to monitor #2 and
>vice versa (DVI-I-2 goes to monitor #1).  I checked the default
>situation, then flipped the two halves of the virtual screen back
>and forth with xrandr, checking the xrandr status each time.
> 4) The last bit of weirdness is that the xrandr geometry setting
> commands
>seemed reversed from what would be expected.  Maybe that is the
>inevitable result of mislabeling the data stream, or perhaps it is an
>important clue in its own right.  My head hurts at the point.
> 
> Misc
> 5) Oh yes, I buzzed out the cable, just in case it was mis-wired or
>mis-labled.  It's fine, that is DMS59:VGA2_RED -> VGA#2:RED, etc.
> 
> 
> Please advise if this should be posted somewhere else.

I guess you've hit the same bug as me, I even have the same video card.

Bug was reported here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582582

but it was closed as notabug

Michal
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