F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Mike Chambers
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
releases (F14 or below).

When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
control tab.

When adding a background image, that little plus/negative sign at the
bottom isn't too inviting to use.  Had to look at that program couple
times to understand/see them at the bottom.  Could be couple bigger
buttons or something.

How the hell do you add something to be started up when your profile
starts?  Such as devilspie or whatever?  I used to add this to startup
programs.

I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2011/2/27 Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net:
 Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
 releases (F14 or below).

 When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
 I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
 or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
 control tab.

 When adding a background image, that little plus/negative sign at the
 bottom isn't too inviting to use.  Had to look at that program couple
 times to understand/see them at the bottom.  Could be couple bigger
 buttons or something.

 How the hell do you add something to be started up when your profile
 starts?  Such as devilspie or whatever?  I used to add this to startup
 programs.

 I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
 tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.

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Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:06 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:

 Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
 system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?

Yep, try removing the at-spi2* packages (it only removes bout 5 total or
so) and see if that works for you.


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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
 Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
 releases (F14 or below).

Yes the font rendering makes applications look significantly more ugly then 
under F14. That was the first thing I noticed after starting Firefox.

 When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
 I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
 or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
 control tab.

I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is 
supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is 
already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an 
instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new instance 
is started.
Also you don't need to click on Activities but can simply move the mouse 
to the upper left corner to open the favorites. While this takes some 
getting used to I think it makes sense. Simply throw you mouse into the 
upper left corner and then click on Firefox.

 When adding a background image, that little plus/negative sign at the
 bottom isn't too inviting to use.  Had to look at that program couple
 times to understand/see them at the bottom.  Could be couple bigger
 buttons or something.

 How the hell do you add something to be started up when your profile
 starts?  Such as devilspie or whatever?  I used to add this to startup
 programs.

 I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
 tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.

I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and 
other touchscreen driven devices the whole hover mechanic just doesn't work 
at all anymore. On the other hand I noticed that when I move the mouse over 
an icon at the bottom right corner the icon slides to the side and reveal a 
label for that icon. So there the hover concept seems to be still alive.
This is a problem though as apparently you cannot click that label:
1. Update icon appears
2. You want to click on it and move the mouse over it
3. The icon moves away from your pointer revealing the label
4. Clicking no longer works since the label is not clickable
5. You move the mouse over to the new icon position
6. If you overshoot the icon again slides away from you pointer = continue 
at 2.
7. If you don't overshoot you are finally able to do what you wanted to do 
in the first place: click that icon.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/2/27 Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net:
 On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:06 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:

 Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
 system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?

 Yep, try removing the at-spi2* packages (it only removes bout 5 total or
 so) and see if that works for you.

at-spi2 is not installed on my system. Out of curiosity, I removed
at-spi* packages and now GDM behaves funny.

I'll have to connect the eth cable and rollback my latest system sabotage :)



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Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-27 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:00:20PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:30:34PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
 
  The services that are started when the respective package is installed
  and the services that are enabled by default by the Fedora installer do
  not need to be the same and are afaik currently not the same. There is
  imho a huge difference, whether services are enabled during
  installation, because afterwards one can usually expect that there are
  unwanted services and whether services are enabled after the respective
  package is installed long after the system has been installed.
 
 I think multipath is the only service enabled by Anaconda. Everything 
 else depends on the package doing so.

This does not mean that this is a good way or the only way to do this.
Regards
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Christoph Frieben
2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
 Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
 system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?

You have to downgrade your system to

accountsservice-libs-0.6.3-3.fc15
accountsservice-0.6.3-3.fc15
libcanberra-0.27-1.fc15
libcanberra-gtk2-0.27-1.fc15
libcanberra-gtk3-0.27-1.fc15

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/2/27 Christoph Frieben christoph.frie...@googlemail.com:
 2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
 Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
 system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?

 You have to downgrade your system to

Thanks for the tip, I'll try it later


 accountsservice-libs-0.6.3-3.fc15
 accountsservice-0.6.3-3.fc15
 libcanberra-0.27-1.fc15
 libcanberra-gtk2-0.27-1.fc15
 libcanberra-gtk3-0.27-1.fc15

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
 On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
  
  When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
  I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
  or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
  control tab.
 
 I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is 
 supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is 
 already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an 
 instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new instance 
 is started.
 Also you don't need to click on Activities but can simply move the mouse 
 to the upper left corner to open the favorites. While this takes some 
 getting used to I think it makes sense. Simply throw you mouse into the 
 upper left corner and then click on Firefox.

OK, got the corner thing with the mouse, seems to work.  Still hate it.
Seems more work to do...move mouse, click on icon, then start.  Instead
of just going to workspace/icon or whatever and clicking on it.
 
  
  I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
  tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
 
 I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and 
 other touchscreen driven devices the whole hover mechanic just doesn't work 
 at all anymore. On the other hand I noticed that when I move the mouse over 
 an icon at the bottom right corner the icon slides to the side and reveal a 
 label for that icon. So there the hover concept seems to be still alive.
 This is a problem though as apparently you cannot click that label:
 1. Update icon appears
 2. You want to click on it and move the mouse over it
 3. The icon moves away from your pointer revealing the label
 4. Clicking no longer works since the label is not clickable
 5. You move the mouse over to the new icon position
 6. If you overshoot the icon again slides away from you pointer = continue 
 at 2.
 7. If you don't overshoot you are finally able to do what you wanted to do 
 in the first place: click that icon.

Yep, experienced same thing with the bottom right icons.  But as you
said, hypocritical when can't do it at the top over time/date/etc..but
in the bottom it's set to, yet have to hit it at right spot for it to
work.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
 snip
 I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
 tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.


try:

$ gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-date true

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Mike Chambers wrote:

 Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
 releases (F14 or below).

freetype-2.4.4-3.fc15 :

* Sun Feb 20 2011 Marek Kasik mka...@redhat.com 2.4.4-3
- Enable bytecode interpreter (#547532).
- Fall back to autohinting if a TTF/OTF doesn't contain any bytecode.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 11:23 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
 On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
  snip
  I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
  tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
 
 
 try:
 
 $ gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-date true

No problem turning it on or off to see it permanently.  But used to
rather just have clock viewable, then just hover mouse over for date if
really need to see it.  

No biggie I guess, as it's now in middle by itself and not that big so
enabled date back for now.


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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread drago01
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
 On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
 
  When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
  I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
  or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
  control tab.

 I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
 supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
 already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
 instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new instance
 is started.
 Also you don't need to click on Activities but can simply move the mouse
 to the upper left corner to open the favorites. While this takes some
 getting used to I think it makes sense. Simply throw you mouse into the
 upper left corner and then click on Firefox.

 OK, got the corner thing with the mouse, seems to work.  Still hate it.
 Seems more work to do...move mouse, click on icon, then start.  Instead
 of just going to workspace/icon or whatever and clicking on it.

Give it some time, it is different than what you are used to, after
lets say a week it will feel natural to you (up to the point that you
will throw your mouse
into the upper left corner on other OSes ;) ).

 
  I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
  tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.

 I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and
 other touchscreen driven devices the whole hover mechanic just doesn't work
 at all anymore. On the other hand I noticed that when I move the mouse over
 an icon at the bottom right corner the icon slides to the side and reveal a
 label for that icon. So there the hover concept seems to be still alive.
 This is a problem though as apparently you cannot click that label:
 1. Update icon appears
 2. You want to click on it and move the mouse over it
 3. The icon moves away from your pointer revealing the label
 4. Clicking no longer works since the label is not clickable
 5. You move the mouse over to the new icon position
 6. If you overshoot the icon again slides away from you pointer = continue
 at 2.
 7. If you don't overshoot you are finally able to do what you wanted to do
 in the first place: click that icon.

This is a bug see: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636930

 Yep, experienced same thing with the bottom right icons.  But as you
 said, hypocritical when can't do it at the top over time/date/etc..but
 in the bottom it's set to, yet have to hit it at right spot for it to
 work.

It is not hypocritical as *you* made up the reason for the tooltips
not being there (hover is used in a lot of different places in the
shell).
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 27.02.11 16:37, Christoph Frieben (christoph.frie...@googlemail.com) 
wrote:

 2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
  Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
  system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
 
 You have to downgrade your system to
 
 accountsservice-libs-0.6.3-3.fc15
 accountsservice-0.6.3-3.fc15
 libcanberra-0.27-1.fc15
 libcanberra-gtk2-0.27-1.fc15
 libcanberra-gtk3-0.27-1.fc15

libcanberra? What makes you think lc is involved here?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680605 ← that doesn't really
suggest any libcanberra involvement.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote:
 Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
 releases (F14 or below).

 When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
 I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
 or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
 control tab.

 When adding a background image, that little plus/negative sign at the
 bottom isn't too inviting to use.  Had to look at that program couple
 times to understand/see them at the bottom.  Could be couple bigger
 buttons or something.

 How the hell do you add something to be started up when your profile
 starts?  Such as devilspie or whatever?  I used to add this to startup
 programs.

 I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
 tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.

Alpha release has not even happened yet - it is early days - and
gnome3 is not scheduled for release till April - if there are things
are you would like changing, now is a good time to file reports either
as RFE in bugzilla for Fedora, or on the gnome3 development upstream
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList

I wonder just why this feature
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
fell from the list?

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Re: git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-27 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 06:14:48PM +0300, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I've got an interesting idea - why not to provide a git repository
 with the sources of current Fedora kernel? This could simplify the
 maintenance of patches, allows other to easily backport stuff from
 kernel.org's master and greatly improves the current situation with
 transparency of development process.
 

It is fully transparent already. Moving to another model like this would
actually likely be a regression in transparency, since changes would be
hidden by the increased volume of rebases or merges.

 I mean I almost sure that Fedora Kernel team uses git internally, so
 why not to allow others to fork it?
 

Because we're not interested in doing additional work for no benefit.
Our workflow is an SRPM of patches, so that's what we work with.
Anything else just adds needless complication, and worst of all,
increases the possibility of introducing issues.

The goal of the Fedora kernel is to stay as close to upstream as
possible, aside from a few outliers, we generally do a very good job of
that.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Christoph Frieben
2011/2/27 Lennart Poettering:
 libcanberra? What makes you think lc is involved here?

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680605 ← that doesn't really
 suggest any libcanberra involvement.

You are correct, the cited workaround from bug 680605 was partially
superfluous: downgrading
 - accountsservice-libs-0.6.3-3.fc15
 - accountsservice-0.6.3-3.fc15
alone already solves the issue for me. The reporter of  bug 680605
should change the component from libcanberra to accountsservice then
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Re: git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-27 Thread Thomas Moschny
2011/2/27 Kyle McMartin k...@mcmartin.ca:
 Our workflow is an SRPM of patches, so that's what we work with.

You really do that by hand, without some sort of patch manager?

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F14 smartctl - unable to complete smart test

2011-02-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

This can be a hardware problem - hard to say. For some reason on one
of the disks smart test is interrupted

# 1  Extended offlineInterrupted (host reset)  90% 12489 -
# 2  Extended offlineInterrupted (host reset)  90% 12484 -


I see this in dmesg

[ 4328.800100] ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
[ 4328.800129] ata3.00: failed command: WRITE DMA EXT
[ 4328.800153] ata3.00: cmd 35/00:08:7e:dc:9f/00:00:2c:00:00/e0 tag 0
dma 4096 out
[ 4328.800157]  res 40/00:00:02:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask
0x4 (timeout)
[ 4328.800190] ata3.00: status: { DRDY }
[ 4333.849048] ata3: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
[ 4338.847048] ata3: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
[ 4338.847063] ata3: soft resetting link
[ 4339.837375] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133
[ 4339.837407] ata3: EH complete

I'm using 2.6.37.2 with config based on an old rawhide 2.6.37. I have
not noticed other problems with this disc. What might be causing this
interrupts?

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Re: git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-27 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:32:34AM -0800, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
 Fedora's patched kernel sources in a git repository and then include 
 kernel-2.6.38-1.1.fc15.tar.bz2 in the source RPM instead of vanilla 
 kernel-2.6.38.tar.bz2 and fifty patches.  Red Hat appears to do this 
 with RHEL 6's kernel, but their kernel repository is not 
 publicly-accessible.
 

RHEL also never rebases, which means their git tree is virtually linear.

 While I can see how this might make things a bit easier, it can obscure 
 what commits are Fedora-specific as they are lost in the sea of the 
 upstream kernel's commits, making me firmly against the proposal.

Correct, look at, for instance, what Ubuntu's git tree looks like during
a release, it's an utter mess of merges and local commits.

There are advantages to both, with a low patch count, I'm happy with the
workflow we have now.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 27.02.11 19:00, Christoph Frieben (christoph.frie...@googlemail.com) 
wrote:

 2011/2/27 Lennart Poettering:
  libcanberra? What makes you think lc is involved here?
 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680605 ← that doesn't really
  suggest any libcanberra involvement.
 
 You are correct, the cited workaround from bug 680605 was partially
 superfluous: downgrading
  - accountsservice-libs-0.6.3-3.fc15
  - accountsservice-0.6.3-3.fc15
 alone already solves the issue for me. The reporter of  bug 680605
 should change the component from libcanberra to accountsservice then
 .. ~C

I have already reassigned it to gdm. The backtrace was generated in
gdm-simple-chooser code and hence should probably be fixed in gdm.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:52:36 +0100
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:

 One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList
 
 I wonder just why this feature
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
 fell from the list?

See https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/557

Basically it wasn't quite polished enough to tout as a feature yet. 
It will hopefully be in f16 and in much better shape. ;) 

kevin


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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/27/2011 10:20 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:

 I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is 
 supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is 
 already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an 
 instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new instance 
 is started.


  This obviously makes little/no sense - how does the gnome launcher
know when I want to bring the existing running app to foreground versus
when I want a new instance of same app?

   It cannot - so if the above is correct it is a design flaw.





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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/2/27 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
 On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:52:36 +0100
 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:

 One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList

 I wonder just why this feature
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
 fell from the list?

 See https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/557

 Basically it wasn't quite polished enough to tout as a feature yet.
 It will hopefully be in f16 and in much better shape. ;)

Thanks for the info. I'll have to arm myself with patience and wait
for the F16 then :)


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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Aurimas Černius
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Hi,

 I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is 
 supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is 
 already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an 
 instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new instance 
 is started.
 
 
   This obviously makes little/no sense - how does the gnome launcher
 know when I want to bring the existing running app to foreground versus
 when I want a new instance of same app?


Have you tried right-click?


It cannot - so if the above is correct it is a design flaw.


I think you should read more about gnome-shell and it's ideas. That
would probably give you more understanding about it and how to use it.

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Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-27 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 04:33:56PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:00:20PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:30:34PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
  
   The services that are started when the respective package is installed
   and the services that are enabled by default by the Fedora installer do
   not need to be the same and are afaik currently not the same. There is
   imho a huge difference, whether services are enabled during
   installation, because afterwards one can usually expect that there are
   unwanted services and whether services are enabled after the respective
   package is installed long after the system has been installed.
  
  I think multipath is the only service enabled by Anaconda. Everything 
  else depends on the package doing so.
 
 This does not mean that this is a good way or the only way to do this.

No, but it does mean that what you're proposing would involve adding 
functionality to Anaconda. The current situation is that the services 
that are started when the respective package is installed and the 
services that are enabled by default by the Fedora installer *are* the 
same.

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Re: Access rights for system logs

2011-02-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sat, 26 Feb 2011 10:44:05 +0100
Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.de wrote:

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 On 02/25/11 17:21, Till Maas wrote:

...snip...

  I like a special group just for accounts that should be able to
  read all log files, too, e.g. a group logread.
  
  Regards
  Till
  
 That sounds good to me. Should we include a group logwriter or
 logger for completeness?
 
 Who is in charge to change this? ... which way do I/we have to go to
 reach this aim? Is this just contacting rsyslog-maintainer to change
 ownership? I suppose not.

Were you thinking of just /var/log/messages? or all log files? 
Or all syslog written files? or ?

If you are talking all log files, I would suggest making this into a
feature for f16, since it's going to require coordinating a bunch of
changes of packages to have the right group ownership of their log
files. 

kevin


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Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:23:59 +
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it possible to get the rationality behind why those services which 
 are permitted to be enabled by default as specific exceptions are 
 granted that exception.

Well, I think the rationale was these are basic services that are
required to bring the machine up into a gui and allow a user to login
and be able to apply updates, etc 

At least that was my thought. 

I wonder now if we couldn't use the critical path setup to define
these. 

Ie, If your package is not critical path, it should not start by
default. If it is, it _may_ start by default

Just a thought. 

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:40 +0200, Aurimas wrote:

  I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is 
  supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is 
  already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an 
  instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new 
  instance 
  is started.
  
  
This obviously makes little/no sense - how does the gnome launcher
  know when I want to bring the existing running app to foreground versus
  when I want a new instance of same app?
 
 
 Have you tried right-click?

Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance of
the app is running already:

  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-February/097333.html

To start a new instance of an app, you are supposed to drag'n'drop the Favorites
icon onto the desktop. Right-click only works if the app is running already.
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/27/2011 02:41 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:


  Rumor has it (coff coff) that gnome was infiltrated by kde developers
trying to get their users back

  :-) :-) :-)
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Re: git repository with Fedora kernel(s) sources

2011-02-27 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Feb 27, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Kyle McMartin wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 08:32:34AM -0800, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
 Fedora's patched kernel sources in a git repository and then include 
 kernel-2.6.38-1.1.fc15.tar.bz2 in the source RPM instead of vanilla 
 kernel-2.6.38.tar.bz2 and fifty patches.  Red Hat appears to do this 
 with RHEL 6's kernel, but their kernel repository is not 
 publicly-accessible.
 
 
 RHEL also never rebases, which means their git tree is virtually linear.

I'd say its not even virtually linear, its linear, period. Once a given
RHEL major release goes out the door, the kernel tree is never branched
or rebased, no git merges, or anything, just a series of linear commits,
all done by a single maintainer. Patches aren't pulled from sub-maintainer
git trees, they're pulled from a patchwork database, once deemed ready,
so the commit history remains 100% linear.


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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 27.02.11 13:00, Larry Vaden (va...@texoma.net) wrote:

 A n00b to Fedora (well, since F3 days, now testing F15 Alpha 2), I
 want to file with BugZilla and notice you are involved with some of
 the packages involved.

Please direct questions like this to the fedora test list or a similar
mailing list, not to fedora-devel or me.

 The Create User screen seems to be the first place I notice an
 unexpected result (backspacing in the password field yields an
 unexpected result), but I can't seem to decide between filing against
 perhaps firstboot or systemd or NetworkManager.  Short a backtrace,
 how does one go about getting it right so as not to waste developer's
 time?

File a bug against anaconda, please.

 Further, interesting (to me) results are below the sig and I would
 like your guidance on which package to file against.

Uh? Not sure I am following.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread drago01
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:40 +0200, Aurimas wrote:

  I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
  supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
  already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
  instance is already running it will be brought into focus or a new 
  instance
  is started.
 
 
    This obviously makes little/no sense - how does the gnome launcher
  know when I want to bring the existing running app to foreground versus
  when I want a new instance of same app?


 Have you tried right-click?

 Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance of
 the app is running already:

  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-February/097333.html

 To start a new instance of an app, you are supposed to drag'n'drop the 
 Favorites
 icon onto the desktop. Right-click only works if the app is running already.

As I told you in the other thread I have already fixed it upstream,
that is you will always see a New window item regardless
if the app is running or not (once the fix hits rawhide / f15).
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:43:54 +0100, drago01 wrote:

  Have you tried right-click?
 
  Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance 
  of
  the app is running already:
 
   http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-February/097333.html
 
  To start a new instance of an app, you are supposed to drag'n'drop the 
  Favorites
  icon onto the desktop. Right-click only works if the app is running already.
 
 As I told you in the other thread I have already fixed it upstream,
 that is you will always see a New window item regardless
 if the app is running or not (once the fix hits rawhide / f15).

Well, I figured it was you who committed the change, but that would
have been more obvious if you used your real name for all emails. ;)

About the right-click, I'm not fond of the extra work - I can't tell
whether I will use it to start new apps or whether I will try to get
accustomed to drag'n'drop instead. Compared with what I've been using
so far before (a single-click launcher icon in the GNOME panel for a
couple of favourites), the new day is more work and less convenient.

Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
features alive.
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Christoph Frieben
2011/2/27 Michael Schwendt:
 Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
 that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
 features alive.

Currently, the suspend-resume cycle is broken even on mainstream
hardware e.g. using the r300g driver. Forcing a GL enabled desktop
upon everybody seems overzealous. ~C
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread drago01
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:43:54 +0100, drago01 wrote:

  Have you tried right-click?
 
  Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance 
  of
  the app is running already:
 
   http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-February/097333.html
 
  To start a new instance of an app, you are supposed to drag'n'drop the 
  Favorites
  icon onto the desktop. Right-click only works if the app is running 
  already.

 As I told you in the other thread I have already fixed it upstream,
 that is you will always see a New window item regardless
 if the app is running or not (once the fix hits rawhide / f15).

 Well, I figured it was you who committed the change, but that would
 have been more obvious if you used your real name for all emails. ;)

Doesn't matter who made the changes just wanted to point out that the
flaw is already fixed.

 About the right-click, I'm not fond of the extra work - I can't tell
 whether I will use it to start new apps or whether I will try to get
 accustomed to drag'n'drop instead. Compared with what I've been using
 so far before (a single-click launcher icon in the GNOME panel for a
 couple of favourites), the new day is more work and less convenient.

Well I mostly use the drag n drop .. as it allows opening apps on
different workspaces /  creating new workspaces
without the extra step of switching to the workspace first.

When on the same workspace I don't really have the need to open
multiple windows using launchers that often
(most of the time I use shortcuts like ctrl-n / ctrl-shift-n etc.).

 Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
 that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
 features alive.

Well the primary purpose of the fallback is to home something for
devices without proper 3D acceleration (either because the driver
sucks, the hardware is too old or because it is a VM).
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread drago01
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Christoph Frieben
christoph.frie...@googlemail.com wrote:
 2011/2/27 Michael Schwendt:
 Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
 that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
 features alive.

 Currently, the suspend-resume cycle is broken even on mainstream
 hardware e.g. using the r300g driver. Forcing a GL enabled desktop
 upon everybody seems overzealous. ~C

In your case you should define broken and put that into bugzilla ...
which might end up being more productive than that post ;)
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Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-27 Thread Till Maas
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 07:21:30PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 04:33:56PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:00:20PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
   On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 07:30:34PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
   
The services that are started when the respective package is installed
and the services that are enabled by default by the Fedora installer do
not need to be the same and are afaik currently not the same. There is
imho a huge difference, whether services are enabled during
installation, because afterwards one can usually expect that there are
unwanted services and whether services are enabled after the respective
package is installed long after the system has been installed.
   
   I think multipath is the only service enabled by Anaconda. Everything 
  ^
   else depends on the package doing so.
  
  This does not mean that this is a good way or the only way to do this.
 
 No, but it does mean that what you're proposing would involve adding 
 functionality to Anaconda. The current situation is that the services 
 that are started when the respective package is installed and the 
 services that are enabled by default by the Fedora installer *are* the 
 same.

You wrote that Anaconda already has the code to active services, so
there is no additional functionality needed. Only the list of services
to be enabled needs to be extended. Nevertheless, this is a lot cleaner
solution that having to recommend to users of Fedora to not install
packages on systems on a network or with non-admin users logged in to
avoid potential security risks because services might activate
themselves.

Btw. it is also possible to move the initial activation of services into
a single package that actives the respective services once after
installation, so no changes to the Anaconda code is even required.
People who want a secure system can then just deselect it. It could work
like the firstboot package.

Btw. in case someone with yum plugin writing skills reads this: Is it
possible with a yum plugin that manipulates rpm scriptlets, e.g. one
that makes sure that no rpm can enable a service using service foo on?

Regards
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:

  Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
  that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
  features alive.
 
 Well the primary purpose of the fallback is to home something for
 devices without proper 3D acceleration (either because the driver
 sucks, the hardware is too old or because it is a VM).

... and to make it easier for people, who don't like the new GNOME,
to switch to something more familiar? Just to not lose them to a
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Re: Access rights for system logs

2011-02-27 Thread Till Maas
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 12:30:43PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:

 Were you thinking of just /var/log/messages? or all log files? 
 Or all syslog written files? or ?
 
 If you are talking all log files, I would suggest making this into a
 feature for f16, since it's going to require coordinating a bunch of
 changes of packages to have the right group ownership of their log
 files. 

It is only required for log files that are not world-readable. And it
can be easily implemented for log files that are not readable for any
group.

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Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback

2011-02-27 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 02/27/2011 01:33 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 Ie, If your package is not critical path, it should not start by
 default. If it is, it _may_ start by default

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Re: Minimal install option (was Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback)

2011-02-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 2/25/11 12:51 PM, Chris Lumens wrote:
 This was the same realization that
 led to the removal of the labeled minimal install, too many people
 just wanted to argue over the meaning of the term minimal.

 ? There's still a 'minimal' radio button in the installer at the package
 set selection stage. I know, I just clicked on it not half an hour ago
 in the F15 Alpha RC1 installer. :) Is it meant to be gone?

 It was there a long, long time ago.  It was taken away a medium long
 time ago.  It came back a short long time ago.  It's still there.

 Heh, have we started getting bug reports about it not being minimal
 enough or it being too minimal yet?

If it includes sendmail its not minimal enough ;-)

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Re: Which fonts should be pulled in by desktop environments as dependencies?!

2011-02-27 Thread Hedayat Vatankhah


/*Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at*/ wrote on 02/22/2011 6:49:00 PM
+0350:
 Nicolas Mailhot wrote:

 Le Lun 21 février 2011 22:27, Hedayat Vatankhah a écrit :
 Thanks for the answer. I also thought that it is reasonable, but wanted
 to make sure before calling others for it. I just wonder if it is
 possible to have group dependencies in comps.xml or by packages! What is
 the best way for enforcing such dependencies in Fedora?
 Well that is a question for fedora-devel and the tools people :)
 Well, please do not add hardcoded dependencies on all those packages to 
 desktop environment packages. If I don't need fonts for [insert language 
 here], I should be able to remove them. The fonts group in comps, which is 
 already installed by default, is the right place for those fonts.

Is it possible to depend on a group instead of a package at all? And if
that's possible, what happens if a default package of a group is removed?!

Thanks
Hedayat

 Localized live kickstarts also need to be able to remove fonts for locales 
 they don't support, to make room for packages to support the locales they do 
 support.

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 02/27/2011 06:36 PM, drago01 wrote:
 I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
 tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.

 I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and
 other touchscreen driven devices the whole hover mechanic just doesn't work
 at all anymore. On the other hand I noticed that when I move the mouse over
 an icon at the bottom right corner the icon slides to the side and reveal a
 label for that icon. So there the hover concept seems to be still alive.
 This is a problem though as apparently you cannot click that label:
 1. Update icon appears
 2. You want to click on it and move the mouse over it
 3. The icon moves away from your pointer revealing the label
 4. Clicking no longer works since the label is not clickable
 5. You move the mouse over to the new icon position
 6. If you overshoot the icon again slides away from you pointer =  continue
 at 2.
 7. If you don't overshoot you are finally able to do what you wanted to do
 in the first place: click that icon.

 This is a bug see: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=636930

This bug only seems to address the overshooting issue but not the real 
problem of the icon moving away from you mouse pointer. If the appearing 
label or summary notification would be considered part of the clickable 
area for the icon this would fix the problem easily and make the 
overshooting issue disappear since you no longer have to move the pointer 
to the icon (for a second time).

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Re: F14 smartctl - unable to complete smart test

2011-02-27 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 02/27/2011 11:10 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This can be a hardware problem - hard to say. For some reason on one
 of the disks smart test is interrupted
 
 # 1  Extended offlineInterrupted (host reset)  90% 12489 -
 # 2  Extended offlineInterrupted (host reset)  90% 12484 -
 
 
 I see this in dmesg
 
 [ 4328.800100] ata3.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 
 frozen
 [ 4328.800129] ata3.00: failed command: WRITE DMA EXT
 [ 4328.800153] ata3.00: cmd 35/00:08:7e:dc:9f/00:00:2c:00:00/e0 tag 0
 dma 4096 out
 [ 4328.800157]  res 40/00:00:02:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask
 0x4 (timeout)
 [ 4328.800190] ata3.00: status: { DRDY }
 [ 4333.849048] ata3: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
 [ 4338.847048] ata3: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
 [ 4338.847063] ata3: soft resetting link
 [ 4339.837375] ata3.00: configured for UDMA/133
 [ 4339.837407] ata3: EH complete
 
 I'm using 2.6.37.2 with config based on an old rawhide 2.6.37. I have
 not noticed other problems with this disc. What might be causing this
 interrupts?

I've been having similar problems lately.  First my laptop, and I
assumed a hardware problem, so I replaced the HDD.  Then the server
started doing it, which seemed quite a coincidence, but because its
uptime was around two months at the time and it was still running a
2.6.35.9 kernel while my laptop problems started with 2.6.35.11, I
thought it was just coincidence.  Now, if you bring this up, I'm not so
sure.

Here's what I saw happening on the laptop:
[ 1199.706084] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x7fff SErr 0x0
action 0x6 frozen
[ 1199.706094] ata1.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
[ 1199.706101] ata1.00: cmd 61/08:00:67:48:3f/00:00:16:00:00/40 tag 0
ncq 4096 out
[ 1199.706106] ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
(repeat the above 3 lines many times)
[ 1199.706533] ata1: hard resetting link
[ 1209.754149] ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[ 1209.754155] ata1: hard resetting link
[ 1219.802039] ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[ 1219.802046] ata1: hard resetting link
[ 1230.360039] ata1: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
[ 1239.438047] ata1: SATA link up 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
[ 1239.444280] ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
[ 1239.444286] ata1.00: device reported invalid CHS sector 0
(repeat above 1 line many times)
[ 1239.31] ata1: EH complete
[ 1318.752164] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x70040b0 SErr 0x0
action 0x6 frozen
[ 1318.752171] ata1.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
[ 1318.752178] ata1.00: cmd 61/48:20:e7:1b:ac/00:00:22:00:00/40 tag 4
ncq 36864 out
[ 1318.752183] ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
(repeat above 3 lines many many times, lather, rinse, repeat)

In the meantime, the system almost completely freezes up, and the disk
activity light stays on.

On the server:
[6968144.832829] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x0
[6968144.832829] ata1.00: failed command: READ MULTIPLE
[6968144.832829] ata1.00: cmd c4/00:20:fb:a5:df/00:00:00:00:00/ef tag 0
pio 16384 in
[6968144.832829] ata1.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
[6968144.832829] ata1.00: error: { UNC }
[6968144.852104] ata1.00: configured for PIO0
[6968144.852125] ata1: EH complete
(repeat above 7 lines several times)

And again, the system almost completely freezes up, except that it still
routes traffic through it in the meantime.  It's easily reproducible by
starting up MPD, which causes it quickly when it accesses the music in
my main $HOME directory. (I don't use MPD on the laptop, so that's not
the problem in any way.)

Could this possibly be a bug in something besides the kernel?  That
might explain why the server started getting it despite not having a new
kernel.  And I'd like to know before I go out buying more HDDs.

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Re: F14 smartctl - unable to complete smart test

2011-02-27 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 02/27/2011 07:30 PM, J. Randall Owens wrote:
 On 02/27/2011 11:10 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,

 This can be a hardware problem - hard to say. For some reason on one
 of the disks smart test is interrupted

 # 1  Extended offlineInterrupted (host reset)  90% 12489 
 -
 # 2  Extended offlineInterrupted (host reset)  90% 12484 
 -

snip

 I'm using 2.6.37.2 with config based on an old rawhide 2.6.37. I have
 not noticed other problems with this disc. What might be causing this
 interrupts?
 
 I've been having similar problems lately.  First my laptop, and I
 assumed a hardware problem, so I replaced the HDD.  Then the server
 started doing it, which seemed quite a coincidence, but because its
 uptime was around two months at the time and it was still running a
 2.6.35.9 kernel while my laptop problems started with 2.6.35.11, I
 thought it was just coincidence.  Now, if you bring this up, I'm not so
 sure.
 
snip
 
 Could this possibly be a bug in something besides the kernel?  That
 might explain why the server started getting it despite not having a new
 kernel.  And I'd like to know before I go out buying more HDDs.
 

I should add, bringing this back to smartctl matters, that I tried the
SMART testing on the server (by the time I thought of doing it on the
laptop, I'd already put the new one in), and it didn't seem to find any
problems with these HDDs.

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Re: Minimal install option (was Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback)

2011-02-27 Thread Larry Vaden
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

 If it includes sendmail its not minimal enough ;-)

From a recent default install of F14:

ps auxw | wc -l
124

Several of the BSDish distros achieve 30-50 as a minimal install.
e.g., on RHEL.

IMHO some thought should be given to the security of a new user who
may not be aware that it is best to harden a box behind a firewall
before presenting it to the Internet.

On some other packages, enough may be known by the install process to
know that they are not applicable.

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Re: Minimal install option (was Re: Services that can start by default policy feedback)

2011-02-27 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 02/25/2011 03:07 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Heh, have we started getting bug reports about it not being minimal 
 enough or it being too minimal yet?

Do you want them?  ;-)

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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Christoph Frieben
2011/2/27 drago01:
 In your case you should define broken and put that into bugzilla ...
 which might end up being more productive than that post ;)

A related bug report (#643700) has actually been around in Red Hat
Bugzilla since last fall, thus your criticism is quite bold. I would
actually be curious to learn about --any-- user of the r300g driver
who can actually continue to use the GNOME shell after resume from
suspend without rebooting the system. I am currently dealing with a
moveable mouse pointer in front of an otherwise unresponsive desktop.
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
 
   Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
   that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
   features alive.
  
  Well the primary purpose of the fallback is to home something for
  devices without proper 3D acceleration (either because the driver
  sucks, the hardware is too old or because it is a VM).
 
 ... and to make it easier for people, who don't like the new GNOME,
 to switch to something more familiar? Just to not lose them to a
 different DE?

No. That's not an intended purpose of the fallback mode. The GNOME team
expressly does not want to maintain a 'classic' interface alongside the
new interface for refuseniks, in much the same way as the KDE team did
not want to burden themselves with maintaining KDE 3 alongside KDE 4. As
drago01 said, the fallback mode is intended _only_ to cope with cases
where the Shell actually cannot run.
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Re: F15 Alpha impressions

2011-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 08:55 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
 Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
 releases (F14 or below).
 
 When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
 I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top.  I can't tell Firefox
 or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities link or
 control tab.
 
 When adding a background image, that little plus/negative sign at the
 bottom isn't too inviting to use.  Had to look at that program couple
 times to understand/see them at the bottom.  Could be couple bigger
 buttons or something.
 
 How the hell do you add something to be started up when your profile
 starts?  Such as devilspie or whatever?  I used to add this to startup
 programs.
 
 I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
 tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.

These are all rather 'GNOME 3 impressions' than 'F15 Alpha impressions'.
It's probably going to help more to raise them on GNOME mailing lists,
or the Fedora desktop mailing list.
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[perl-Starlet] Add Requires: Fedora 15's rpm misses. Add package reviewer's package description. Cosmetic spec cl

2011-02-27 Thread corsepiu
commit 9c55c751b656dbe5b122a64ac7126cd7a3339f76
Author: Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org
Date:   Sun Feb 27 09:18:21 2011 +0100

Add Requires: Fedora  15's rpm misses.
Add package reviewer's package description.
Cosmetic spec cleanups.

 perl-Starlet.spec |   22 +++---
 1 files changed, 15 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Starlet.spec b/perl-Starlet.spec
index e7619c6..bab10cd 100644
--- a/perl-Starlet.spec
+++ b/perl-Starlet.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Starlet
 Version:0.13
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Simple, high-performance PSGI/Plack HTTP server
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -16,15 +16,18 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Plack) = 0.992
 BuildRequires:  perl(Server::Starter) = 0.06
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.88
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::TCP) = 0.15
-#Requires:   perl(Parallel::Prefork) = 0.07
-#Requires:   perl(Plack) = 0.992
-#Requires:   perl(Server::Starter) = 0.06
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
 
+%if 0%fedora  15
+# Fedora  15's rpm misses these:
+Requires:perl(Plack::Handler::Starlet)
+Requires:perl(Starlet::Server)
+%endif
+
 %description
-Starlet is a standalone HTTP/1.0 server with keep-alive support, formerly
-known as Plack::Server::Standalone::Prefork and
-Plack::Server::Standalone::Prefork::Server::Starter.
+Starlet is a standalone HTTP/1.0 server with support for keep-alive, prefork,
+graceful shutdown, hot deploy, fast HTTP processing, and is suitable for
+running HTTP application servers behind a reverse proxy.
 
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Starlet-%{version}
@@ -56,5 +59,10 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Feb 27 2011 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org 0.13-2
+- Add Requires: Fedora  15's rpm misses.
+- Add package reviewer's package description.
+- Cosmetic spec cleanups.
+
 * Wed Dec 22 2010 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org 0.13-1
 - Initial Fedora package.
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[perl-Starlet/f15/master] Add Requires: Fedora 15's rpm misses. Add package reviewer's package description. Cosmetic spec cl

2011-02-27 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes:

  9c55c75... Add Requires: Fedora  15's rpm misses. Add package reviewe (*)

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[Bug 672068] dspam web interface completely broken

2011-02-27 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=672068

Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|CLOSED  |ASSIGNED
 Resolution|ERRATA  |
   Keywords||Reopened

--- Comment #14 from Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com 2011-02-27 06:01:31 EST ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 Sorry - why does it need to be SuexecUserGroup? Like I said I don't use the 
 web
 front end...

I think you have reply to your question in
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.dspam.user/17494 ... we should go
through the list and make sure dspam out-of-the-box works like that in
Fedora/EPEL.

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[Bug 680738] New: perl-Log-Log4perl-1.32 is available

2011-02-27 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-Log-Log4perl-1.32 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680738

   Summary: perl-Log-Log4perl-1.32 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-Log-Log4perl
AssignedTo: mmasl...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora


Latest upstream release: 1.32
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 1.30
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Log-Log4perl/

Please consult the package update guidelines before you issue an update to a
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[perl-Math-Random-ISAAC/f15/master] sources

2011-02-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit a069bd81cbbe7699cf28edaf6d51d1bd60f6445e
Author: Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr
Date:   Sun Feb 27 14:02:32 2011 +0100

sources

 perl-Math-Random-ISAAC.spec |   56 +++
 sources |1 +
 2 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Math-Random-ISAAC.spec b/perl-Math-Random-ISAAC.spec
new file mode 100644
index 000..ebacdfb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/perl-Math-Random-ISAAC.spec
@@ -0,0 +1,56 @@
+Name:   perl-Math-Random-ISAAC
+Version:1.004
+Release:2%{?dist}
+Summary:Perl interface to the ISAAC PRNG algorithm
+License:MIT or GPL+ or Artistic
+Group:  Development/Libraries
+URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Math-Random-ISAAC/
+Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/J/JA/JAWNSY/Math-Random-ISAAC-%{version}.tar.gz
+BuildArch:  noarch
+BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::LeakTrace)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::NoWarnings)
+Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
+
+%{?perl_default_filter}
+
+%description
+As with other Pseudo-Random Number Generator (PRNG) algorithms like the
+Mersenne Twister (see Math::Random::MT), this algorithm is designed to take
+some seed information and produce seemingly random results as output.
+
+%prep
+%setup -q -n Math-Random-ISAAC-%{version}
+sed -i 's/\r//' examples/*.pl
+
+
+%build
+%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
+make %{?_smp_mflags}
+
+%install
+rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+
+make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null \;
+
+%{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
+
+%check
+make test
+
+%files
+%defattr(-,root,root,-)
+%doc Changes examples LICENSE README
+%{perl_vendorlib}/*
+%{_mandir}/man3/*
+
+%changelog
+* Fri Feb 25 2011 Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr 1.004-2
+- Bump the release number.
+
+* Sun Feb 19 2011 Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr 1.004-1
+- Specfile autogenerated by cpanspec 1.78.
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index e69de29..9ac0ac4 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+46110b9a7bb96fe641bdfaf35bdafec5  Math-Random-ISAAC-1.004.tar.gz
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File Crypt-Random-Source-0.07.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by eseyman

2011-02-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Crypt-Random-Source:

56251a6c909e21f5ae535b0e2af3897e  Crypt-Random-Source-0.07.tar.gz
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[perl-Crypt-Random-Source] Intial import.

2011-02-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit 5cfc6710786f2db3e9ae065fccd002dedb9f46a5
Author: Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr
Date:   Sun Feb 27 14:21:03 2011 +0100

Intial import.

 .gitignore|1 +
 perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec |   56 +
 sources   |1 +
 3 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index e69de29..ebff30b 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+/Crypt-Random-Source-0.07.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec b/perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec
new file mode 100644
index 000..678efd7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec
@@ -0,0 +1,56 @@
+Name:   perl-Crypt-Random-Source
+Version:0.07
+Release:1%{?dist}
+Summary:Get weak or strong random data from pluggable sources
+License:GPL+ or Artistic
+Group:  Development/Libraries
+URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Crypt-Random-Source/
+Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/N/NU/NUFFIN/Crypt-Random-Source-%{version}.tar.gz
+BuildArch:  noarch
+BuildRequires:  perl
+BuildRequires:  perl(Any::Moose)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Capture::Tiny)
+BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Find)
+BuildRequires:  perl(namespace::clean)
+BuildRequires:  perl(ok)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Sub::Exporter)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Exception)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
+Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
+
+%{?perl_default_filter}
+
+%description
+This module provides implementations for a number of byte oriented sources
+of random data.
+
+%prep
+%setup -q -n Crypt-Random-Source-%{version}
+
+%build
+%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
+make %{?_smp_mflags}
+
+%install
+rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+
+make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null \;
+
+%{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
+
+%check
+make test
+
+%files
+%defattr(-,root,root,-)
+%doc Changes LICENSE README
+%{perl_vendorlib}/*
+%{_mandir}/man3/*
+
+%changelog
+* Mon Feb 14 2011 Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr 0.07-1
+- Specfile autogenerated by cpanspec 1.78.
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index e69de29..ba36133 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+56251a6c909e21f5ae535b0e2af3897e  Crypt-Random-Source-0.07.tar.gz
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[perl-Crypt-Random-Source/f15/master] Intial import.

2011-02-27 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit a11330f7dda70a2feee37fc3093db1d3074e640f
Author: Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr
Date:   Sun Feb 27 14:29:12 2011 +0100

Intial import.

 .gitignore|1 +
 perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec |   56 +
 sources   |1 +
 3 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index e69de29..ebff30b 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+/Crypt-Random-Source-0.07.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec b/perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec
new file mode 100644
index 000..678efd7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/perl-Crypt-Random-Source.spec
@@ -0,0 +1,56 @@
+Name:   perl-Crypt-Random-Source
+Version:0.07
+Release:1%{?dist}
+Summary:Get weak or strong random data from pluggable sources
+License:GPL+ or Artistic
+Group:  Development/Libraries
+URL:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Crypt-Random-Source/
+Source0:
http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/N/NU/NUFFIN/Crypt-Random-Source-%{version}.tar.gz
+BuildArch:  noarch
+BuildRequires:  perl
+BuildRequires:  perl(Any::Moose)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Capture::Tiny)
+BuildRequires:  perl(ExtUtils::MakeMaker)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Module::Find)
+BuildRequires:  perl(namespace::clean)
+BuildRequires:  perl(ok)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Sub::Exporter)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Exception)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More)
+Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
+
+%{?perl_default_filter}
+
+%description
+This module provides implementations for a number of byte oriented sources
+of random data.
+
+%prep
+%setup -q -n Crypt-Random-Source-%{version}
+
+%build
+%{__perl} Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=vendor
+make %{?_smp_mflags}
+
+%install
+rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+
+make pure_install PERL_INSTALL_ROOT=$RPM_BUILD_ROOT
+
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -type f -name .packlist -exec rm -f {} \;
+find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2/dev/null \;
+
+%{_fixperms} $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
+
+%check
+make test
+
+%files
+%defattr(-,root,root,-)
+%doc Changes LICENSE README
+%{perl_vendorlib}/*
+%{_mandir}/man3/*
+
+%changelog
+* Mon Feb 14 2011 Emmanuel Seyman emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr 0.07-1
+- Specfile autogenerated by cpanspec 1.78.
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index e69de29..ba36133 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+56251a6c909e21f5ae535b0e2af3897e  Crypt-Random-Source-0.07.tar.gz
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[perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML] Created tag perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML-0.003-3.el4

2011-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML-0.003-3.el4' was created pointing to:

 71fa66d... Initial import (perl-CPAN-Meta-YAML-0.003-3)
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[perl-Perl-OSType] Created tag perl-Perl-OSType-1.002-3.el4

2011-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
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 8bf2f74... Initial import (perl-Perl-OSType-1.002-3)
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[perl-Perl-OSType] Created tag perl-Perl-OSType-1.002-3.el5

2011-02-27 Thread Paul Howarth
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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-RecentChanges

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki-RecentChanges has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-RecentChanges-0.14-12.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
On i386:
perl-Kwiki-RecentChanges-0.14-12.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-Revisions

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki-Revisions has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-Revisions-0.15-14.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
On i386:
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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-Search

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki-Search has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-Search-0.12-14.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
On i386:
perl-Kwiki-Search-0.12-14.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
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Broken dependencies: perl-JSON-RPC

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-JSON-RPC has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-JSON-RPC-0.96-7.fc15.noarch requires perl(MyApp)
On i386:
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Broken dependencies: perl-Declare-Constraints-Simple

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Declare-Constraints-Simple has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Declare-Constraints-Simple-0.03-11.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(Declare::Constraints::Simple-Library)
On i386:
perl-Declare-Constraints-Simple-0.03-11.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(Declare::Constraints::Simple-Library)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-Users-Remote

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki-Users-Remote has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-Users-Remote-0.04-12.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-UserName

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On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-UserName-0.14-14.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Data-ObjectDriver

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Data-ObjectDriver has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Data-ObjectDriver-0.08-2.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBD::Oracle)
perl-Data-ObjectDriver-0.08-2.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBI::db)
On i386:
perl-Data-ObjectDriver-0.08-2.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBD::Oracle)
perl-Data-ObjectDriver-0.08-2.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBI::db)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Gtk2-Ex-Carp

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Gtk2-Ex-Carp has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Gtk2-Ex-Carp-0.01-10.fc15.noarch requires perl(Gtk2::Dialog)
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Broken dependencies: perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.007-4.fc15.noarch requires 
main_module)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.007-4.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.007-4.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var
On i386:
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.007-4.fc15.noarch requires 
main_module)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.007-4.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.007-4.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var
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Broken dependencies: perl-Ace

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Ace has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Ace-1.92-7.fc15.noarch requires perl(Ace::Browser::LocalSiteDefs)
On i386:
perl-Ace-1.92-7.fc15.noarch requires perl(Ace::Browser::LocalSiteDefs)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Bio-Graphics

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Bio-Graphics has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Bio-Graphics-2.11-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(colors)
On i386:
perl-Bio-Graphics-2.11-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(colors)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-CSS-DOM

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-CSS-DOM has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-CSS-DOM-0.14-3.fc15.noarch requires perl()
On i386:
perl-CSS-DOM-0.14-3.fc15.noarch requires perl()
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Broken dependencies: perl-Object-InsideOut

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Object-InsideOut has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Object-InsideOut-3.56-5.fc15.noarch requires perl(t::Imp1)
perl-Object-InsideOut-3.56-5.fc15.noarch requires perl(t::Imp2)
On i386:
perl-Object-InsideOut-3.56-5.fc15.noarch requires perl(t::Imp1)
perl-Object-InsideOut-3.56-5.fc15.noarch requires perl(t::Imp2)
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Broken dependencies: perl-Net-SSH-Perl

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Net-SSH-Perl has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Net-SSH-Perl-1.34-10.fc15.noarch requires perl(Crypt::IDEA)
On i386:
perl-Net-SSH-Perl-1.34-10.fc15.noarch requires perl(Crypt::IDEA)
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Broken dependencies: perl-bioperl

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-bioperl has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-bioperl-1.6.1-6.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(Bio::Expression::FeatureSet)
On i386:
perl-bioperl-1.6.1-6.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(Bio::Expression::FeatureSet)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-8.fc15.noarch requires perl(v6-alpha)
On i386:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-8.fc15.noarch requires perl(v6-alpha)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-DateTime-Set

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-DateTime-Set has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-DateTime-Set-0.28-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(Set::Infinite) = 
0:0.5502
On i386:
perl-DateTime-Set-0.28-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(Set::Infinite) = 
0:0.5502
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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences-0.13-13.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
On i386:
perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences-0.13-13.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-Raw

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki-Raw has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-Raw-0.02-13.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
On i386:
perl-Kwiki-Raw-0.02-13.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki-NewPage

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki-NewPage has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-NewPage-0.12-14.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
On i386:
perl-Kwiki-NewPage-0.12-14.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Kwiki

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Kwiki has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Kwiki-0.39-10.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
On i386:
perl-Kwiki-0.39-10.fc15.noarch requires perl(mixin)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-FormBuilder

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-Catalyst-Controller-FormBuilder has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-FormBuilder-0.05-7.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(Catalyst::View::HTML::Template)
On i386:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-FormBuilder-0.05-7.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(Catalyst::View::HTML::Template)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch

2011-02-27 Thread buildsys


perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch has broken dependencies in the F-15 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch-1.03-11.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBI::st)
perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch-1.03-11.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBI::db)
On i386:
perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch-1.03-11.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBI::st)
perl-DBIx-ContextualFetch-1.03-11.fc15.noarch requires perl(DBI::db)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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File MooseX-SetOnce-0.100473.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2011-02-27 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MooseX-SetOnce:

980c2e7253f997ea56795bf7898393c1  MooseX-SetOnce-0.100473.tar.gz
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[perl-MooseX-SetOnce] update to 0.100473

2011-02-27 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 3671d966dd9ce790a7f8eeefb3f28c7376afe90d
Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
Date:   Mon Feb 28 05:48:35 2011 +0100

update to 0.100473

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-MooseX-SetOnce.spec |9 ++---
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index 3bcdffe..0f849f4 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -1,2 +1,3 @@
 MooseX-SetOnce-0.100471.tar.gz
 /MooseX-SetOnce-0.100472.tar.gz
+/MooseX-SetOnce-0.100473.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-MooseX-SetOnce.spec b/perl-MooseX-SetOnce.spec
index b308688..5f40796 100644
--- a/perl-MooseX-SetOnce.spec
+++ b/perl-MooseX-SetOnce.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-MooseX-SetOnce
-Version:0.100472
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Version:0.100473
+Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Write-once, read-many attributes for Moose
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -47,11 +47,14 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 
 %files
 %defattr(-,root,root,-)
-%doc Changes dist.ini LICENSE META.json README
+%doc Changes LICENSE README
 %{perl_vendorlib}/*
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Feb 28 2011 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.100473-1
+- update to latest upstream version
+
 * Tue Feb 08 2011 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 0.100472-2
 - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass_Rebuild
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index b14f6b2..8f6f271 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-e4e9dd7afbd622c1a35e01391844f59d  MooseX-SetOnce-0.100472.tar.gz
+980c2e7253f997ea56795bf7898393c1  MooseX-SetOnce-0.100473.tar.gz
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