Vivifying deprecated perl-Business-CreditCard

2011-08-15 Thread Petr Pisar
Hello,

I'd like to vivify deprecated and orphaned package `perl-Business-CreditCard'. 
In my opinion, the package has been deprecated by accident as it has been 
working wihtout any reported bugs.

Re-review for this package, needed by Fedora unorphaning process
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Orphaned_package_that_need_new_maintainers#Claiming_Ownership_of_a_Deprecated_Package),
 is available on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730638.

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Create rpm package for pjproject.

2011-08-15 Thread Mario Santagiuliana
Hi to all,
I'm trying to create the rpm packages for pjproject to help sflphone 
request:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692131

Pjproject is a set of libraries written in C language for building 
embedded/non-embedded VoIP applications.

My review request is here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728302

I don't understand where is my mistake in spec file. I can't create packages 
for 64 bit architecture, the install process try to put the files library in 
'/usr/lib', not in '/usr/lib64' on my local system.

I try to use mock to create packages for other distro but I have similar 
error to my koji scratch build:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3272843

Could anybody give me a suggestion?

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Re: Create rpm package for pjproject.

2011-08-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:31:29 +0200, MS (Mario) wrote:

 Hi to all,
 I'm trying to create the rpm packages for pjproject to help sflphone 
 request:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692131
 
 Pjproject is a set of libraries written in C language for building 
 embedded/non-embedded VoIP applications.
 
 My review request is here:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728302
 
 I don't understand where is my mistake in spec file. I can't create packages 
 for 64 bit architecture, the install process try to put the files library in 
 '/usr/lib', not in '/usr/lib64' on my local system.

Well, some projects hardcode /usr/lib (and similar paths) in their build
framework without providing a simple command-line option to change it.
You may need to examine the files to find out where and why it thinks
/usr/lib is the place to use, then come up with a patch (or a sed substitution)
in the %prep section, so you can insert the value %{_libdir} expands to.
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rawhide report: 20110815 changes

2011-08-15 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Aug 15 08:16:01 UTC 2011

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Re: Create rpm package for pjproject.

2011-08-15 Thread Mario Santagiuliana
In data 15/8/2011 12:21:51, Michael Schwendt ha scritto:
 Well, some projects hardcode /usr/lib (and similar paths) in their build
 framework without providing a simple command-line option to change it.
 You may need to examine the files to find out where and why it thinks
 /usr/lib is the place to use, then come up with a patch (or a sed
 substitution) in the %prep section, so you can insert the value
 %{_libdir} expands to.

Thank you, I create a little patch for the Makefile, I create the packages 
without problems.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728302#c9

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Re: [PATCH] macros: Globally add --disable-silent-rules to configure

2011-08-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On 8/13/11 2:23 PM, Jim Meyering wrote:

 I'd start with -O2 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 and something like
 this subset of -Wall:

-Warray-bounds
-Wchar-subscripts
-Wsequence-point

gcc now has:

   -Werror=
   Make the specified warning into an error.  The specifier for a
   warning is appended, for example -Werror=switch turns the warnings
   controlled by -Wswitch into errors.  This switch takes a negative
   form, to be used to negate -Werror for specific warnings, for
   example -Wno-error=switch makes -Wswitch warnings not be errors,
   even when -Werror is in effect.

There's quite a few warnings we could reasonably promote to errors like 
this.  FESCO would be happy to listen to a proposal for such, if anyone 
feels like doing the research.

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Plan for today's FESCo meeting (2011-08-15)

2011-08-15 Thread Tomas Mraz
I am apologizing for the late meeting invitation.

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.

Links to all tickets below can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

= Followups =

no tickets

= New business =

no tickets

= Fedora Engineering Services tickets =

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-engineering-services/report/6

= Open Floor =

For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the following meeting.

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F-16 Branched report: 20110815 changes

2011-08-15 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Aug 15 13:15:35 UTC 2011

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Duplicate perl packages - perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib

2011-08-15 Thread Jesse Keating
Does anybody know what's going on with this?  Base perl has a sub package for 
perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib (which gets its own version numbering).  It seems to 
have been there for quite a while.

Recently (March of last year) perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib was brought in as its 
own package (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573929) but the 
existing sub package was never removed, and exists to this day.

Can somebody tell me what's going on here?  Which one is the true package, 
which one needs to go away?

I care because now we have mismatched version numbers for this package, and it 
is causing some interesting scenarios when trying to use Fedora repos as a koji 
external repo.  There may be more cases of this, I haven't done an exhaustive 
search.

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Re: Duplicate perl packages - perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib

2011-08-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 08/15/2011 06:42 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Does anybody know what's going on with this?  Base perl has a sub package for 
 perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib (which gets its own version numbering).  It seems to 
 have been there for quite a while.

 Recently (March of last year) perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib was brought in as its 
 own package (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573929) but the 
 existing sub package was never removed, and exists to this day.

 Can somebody tell me what's going on here?  Which one is the true package, 
 which one needs to go away?

 I care because now we have mismatched version numbers for this package, and 
 it is causing some interesting scenarios when trying to use Fedora repos as a 
 koji external repo.  There may be more cases of this, I haven't done an 
 exhaustive search.

 --
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 identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

Updates of core modules were sometimes hard and we used this approach 
few last releases: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Perl/updates#Updates_of_Perl_core_modules
It should be working in rpm, but I wasn't aware of koji problems.

I suppose that now we can live without dual life modules, because Perl 
modules in core are updated more often. But I'd rather discuss it with 
Perl SIG members before any action.

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Re: Duplicate perl packages - perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib

2011-08-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
 On 08/15/2011 06:42 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Does anybody know what's going on with this?  Base perl has a sub package 
 for perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib (which gets its own version numbering).  It seems 
 to have been there for quite a while.
 
 Recently (March of last year) perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib was brought in as its 
 own package (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573929) but the 
 existing sub package was never removed, and exists to this day.
 
 Can somebody tell me what's going on here?  Which one is the true package, 
 which one needs to go away?
 
 I care because now we have mismatched version numbers for this package, and 
 it is causing some interesting scenarios when trying to use Fedora repos as 
 a koji external repo.  There may be more cases of this, I haven't done an 
 exhaustive search.
 
 --
 Jesse Keating
 Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
 identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
 
 Updates of core modules were sometimes hard and we used this approach 
 few last releases: 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Perl/updates#Updates_of_Perl_core_modules
 It should be working in rpm, but I wasn't aware of koji problems.
 
 I suppose that now we can live without dual life modules, because Perl 
 modules in core are updated more often. But I'd rather discuss it with 
 Perl SIG members before any action.


Upon further looking at the koji problem, these packages may not actually be 
causing my root issue, since they do come from separate SRPMs.  However I am 
curious if this strategy has ever gone though the packaging committee, releng, 
or fesco.

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Meeting minutes/summary for 2011-08-15 fesco meeting

2011-08-15 Thread Tomas Mraz
=== 
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-08-15)
===


Meeting started by t8m at 17:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-15/fesco.2011-08-15-17.00.log.html
.

Meeting summary
---
* init process  (t8m, 17:00:30)

* FESCo members in/not in provenpackager/sponsors  (t8m, 17:05:25)
  * ACTION: pjones will file a ticket to create sponsor-feedback alias
that will contain packager-sponsor-members and fesco-list  (t8m,
17:28:11)
  * https://fedorahosted.org/fas/ticket/142  (pjones, 17:28:57)
  * ACTION: notting will fwd the feedback e-mails to the fesco list
(t8m, 17:35:57)

* Fedora Engineering Services tickets  (t8m, 17:39:58)
  * https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-engineering-services/report/6  (t8m,
17:40:08)

* Next week's chair  (t8m, 17:42:03)
  * ACTION: sgallagh to be chair on 2011-08-29 meeting  (t8m, 17:44:30)
  * ACTION: nirik to be chair next week - on 2011-08-22 meeting  (t8m,
17:44:59)

* Open Floor  (t8m, 17:45:08)
  * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/660   (sgallagh,
18:00:31)

Meeting ended at 18:03:26 UTC.

Action Items

* pjones will file a ticket to create sponsor-feedback alias that will
  contain packager-sponsor-members and fesco-list
* notting will fwd the feedback e-mails to the fesco list
* sgallagh to be chair on 2011-08-29 meeting
* nirik to be chair next week - on 2011-08-22 meeting

Action Items, by person
---
* nirik
  * nirik to be chair next week - on 2011-08-22 meeting
* notting
  * notting will fwd the feedback e-mails to the fesco list
* pjones
  * pjones will file a ticket to create sponsor-feedback alias that will
contain packager-sponsor-members and fesco-list
* sgallagh
  * sgallagh to be chair on 2011-08-29 meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)

People Present (lines said)
---
* nirik (60)
* sgallagh (56)
* t8m (48)
* pjones (27)
* notting (9)
* cwickert (8)
* ajax (5)
* zodbot (4)
* mmaslano (4)
* gholms (1)
* jsmith (1)
* mjg59 (0)

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17:00:01 t8m #startmeeting FESCO (2011-08-15)
17:00:01 zodbot Meeting started Mon Aug 15 17:00:01 2011 UTC.  The chair is 
t8m. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
17:00:01 zodbot Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link 
#topic.
17:00:09 * sgallagh is here
17:00:14 * ajax waves
17:00:17 t8m #meetingname fesco
17:00:17 zodbot The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
17:00:18 * mmaslano is here
17:00:24 t8m #chair notting nirik ajax cwickert mjg59 mmaslano t8m pjones 
sgallagh
17:00:24 zodbot Current chairs: ajax cwickert mjg59 mmaslano nirik notting 
pjones sgallagh t8m
17:00:25 * pjones is here eagerly awaiting this exciting agenda.
17:00:30 t8m #topic init process
17:00:44 t8m Hi all
17:00:48 * nirik is here.
17:00:50 * notting is here
17:01:01 * jsmith is here (lurking)
17:01:10 t8m So we can start I assume
17:02:17 t8m there are no meeting tickets so this will be really fast
17:02:26 gholms Seriously? Nice.
17:02:44 * nirik nods.
17:02:45 sgallagh Well, I have one thing to bring up in the open discussion 
period
17:02:45 notting i thought nirik was having a followup from last week about 
fesco members in/not in provenpackager/sponsors?
17:02:54 t8m (except for my extremely lousy internet connection today)
17:03:11 nirik Oh yeah. I looked for that, but couldn't find it in old 
meeting logs... ;(
17:03:28 nirik so, I think we will need to draft up something and this time 
document it. ;)
17:03:30 t8m notting, yes, I saw that in last week meeting log
17:04:02 * cwickert is here
17:04:06 t8m anyone to write the draft?
17:04:59 nirik I've not. What do folks think about this?
17:05:06 sgallagh Did we decide on the main points? Are we automatically 
granting provenpackager/sponsor to FESCo members?
17:05:14 sgallagh Do they keep it outside of their terms?
17:05:20 sgallagh Also, what about proventester?
17:05:25 t8m #topic FESCo members in/not in provenpackager/sponsors
17:05:40 nirik provenpackager you mean?
17:06:08 t8m nirik, I think he really means proventester
17:06:14 sgallagh nirik: No, I mean if we're going to be automatically 
granting provenpackager and sponsor, should we also be proventesters?
17:06:15 t8m as well
17:06:26 nirik proventester is trivial to become.
17:06:31 cwickert is there something I can read to get the background of this?
17:06:37 nirik file ticket, agree you read the page, done.
17:06:54 nirik cwickert: the question came up last time that some fesco 
members are not sponsors.
17:07:04 nirik so they don't see the feedback on sponsor/provenpackager 
requests
17:07:11 sgallagh Or even provenpackager (as in my case)
17:07:15 nirik that is sent to the sponsor alias.
17:07:28 cwickert and where is the problem with that?
17:08:05 nirik cwickert: then they have difficulty voting on 

Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-15 Thread seth vidal
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 09:19 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:08:50 -0400, SS (Simo) wrote:
 
  If rpmbuild does not add an implicit requires with libraryX = version
  we built against then it is certainly broken.
 
 One could also argue that an activity like yum install ... ought to
 search for and apply the latest available updates of needed packages. Such
 behaviour has been rejected some years ago, if memory serves correctly. 


It was rejected with good reason, I think. I do not think we should be
adding functionality into yum which:

1. violates the principle of least surprise for the admin
2. covers up for not-specific-enough requirements in the packaging.


It just feels like it would be fixing a problem at the wrong layer.


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[Bug 730279] perlbrew-0.28 is available

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 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA

--- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 
2011-08-15 16:25:17 EDT ---
Package perlbrew-0.28-1.fc16:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora 16 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror within two days.
Update it with:
# su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing perlbrew-0.28-1.fc16'
as soon as you are able to.
Please go to the following url:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perlbrew-0.28-1.fc16
then log in and leave karma (feedback).

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[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 4 (RC4) Available Now!

2011-08-15 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 16 schedule [1], Fedora 16 Alpha Release Candidate 4
(RC4) is now available for testing. Please see the following pages for
download links and testing instructions. In general, official live
images arrive a few hours after the install images: see the links below
for updates. When they appear, the download directory should be the same
as that for install images, except with the trailing /Fedora/ replaced
by /Live/.

Installation:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

Base:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

Desktop:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

Security Lab:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Security_Lab_Test

Ideally, all Alpha priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3],
and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Alpha Release Criteria
[5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the
test list [7].

task#23: Create Fedora 16 Alpha release candidate (RC) - live and
traditional
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/4859

F16 Alpha Blocker tracker bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=713560

F16 Alpha Nice-To-Have tracker bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=713563

[1] http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-quality-tasks.html
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing
[4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing
[5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_Release_Criteria
[6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
[7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test



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packaging wxPdfDocument

2011-08-15 Thread Domingo Becker
Hey all,

I would like to package wxPdfDocument [1], a class library for
creating PDF documents in a C++ application.

As I use it in production environments since 2009 with no problems, I
would like to package it for Fedora in order to have it available in
the official repos.

The review request is at [2].

It currently builds successfully under i686 but not in x86_64 because
of a /usr/lib - /usr/lib64 dir name issue. But I read this morning how
to solve it in another message in this list, so I will test it on an
x86_64 machine as soon as I can.

[1] http://wxcode.sourceforge.net/components/wxpdfdoc/

[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730764

kind regards

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Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-08-15 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 13:43 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com wrote:
  On 08/03/2011 01:19 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
  The Ubuntu NM maintainer has posted a WIP patch that makes NM say it's
  connected immediately if at least one of IPv4 or IPv6 completes.
  Currently if both are enabled, NM won't say it's connected until both
  are done (and result in either success or failure).  That at least
  speeds up the perceived connection speed, which isn't a bad thing.
 
  Nice, that will help almost everybody, but possibly it could break
  somebody who's depending explicitly on IPv6 (or IPv4 in the other case)
  for an app and now thinks the network is up.
 
  How do apps, e.g. Thunderbird, know when they're online?  dbus, /sys?
 
  If this change happens, there ought to be a way for that small slice of
  apps to check to see that the stack they demand is really up, if they're
  depending on it (more directly than parsing text output of userland
  tools).  Probably this already exists, right?
 
 It seems like NM's state transitions need to become more explicit.
 1. IPv4 connected
 2. IPv6 connected
 3. internet connected (including proxy discovery)

I wrote a blog post about this:

http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2011/06/14/networkmanager-and-dual-stack-addressing/

And we could do this.  But it's unlikely that app authors would actually
are about this en masse since it's more than just a single yes/no sort
of thing.  Next, you've got DNS lookups which can be either IPv4 or IPv6
depending on what the DNS server returns; if you do an IPv4 request and
the site's DNS server returns an  record, what do you do with that
if you don't have IPv6 connectivity yet?  Basically it just gets more
complicated, and I'm not optimistic that app authors will really hook
into the additional information.  But it may still be worth trying.

Dan


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Re: To Require or not to Require?

2011-08-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:20:47 -0400, SV (seth) wrote:

 On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 09:19 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
  On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:08:50 -0400, SS (Simo) wrote:
  
   If rpmbuild does not add an implicit requires with libraryX = version
   we built against then it is certainly broken.
  
  One could also argue that an activity like yum install ... ought to
  search for and apply the latest available updates of needed packages. Such
  behaviour has been rejected some years ago, if memory serves correctly. 
 
 
 It was rejected with good reason, I think. I do not think we should be
 adding functionality into yum which:
 
 1. violates the principle of least surprise for the admin
 2. covers up for not-specific-enough requirements in the packaging.

Well, I can understand that point of view partially. The rationale
isn't entirely convincing, though. The more explicitly versioned dependencies
we would add to packages (either manually or automatically during rpmbuild),
the more updates a yum install would pull in. It won't be a full update,
but could break other installed packages.

Running out-of-date installations is not only a problem when a newly
installed package works only with latest updates. Ordinary bugs in
dependencies can also be a reason why the newly installed package will
need a full yum update before it would work [at all or correctly].
Ever seen users with an app startup crash and yum update APP-PKG-NAME
not fixing it becuase yum update LIB-PKG-NAME was necessary?

 It just feels like it would be fixing a problem at the wrong layer.

Where is the right layer?
Do we need to adjust the packaging policies wrt updates?

Fedora 15 by default displays update notifications less frequently.

The package installer could at least notify the user about available
updates immediately after installing a package. Some updates could be
important, especially if they are a dependency of the newly installed
package.

Users with out-of-date installations often are harder to support not just
because of old issues they run into.

If application misbehaviour is fixed in a system library, there is a
library package update, but the application package normally isn't rebuilt
just to add to it a specific-enough requirement on the updated library.
This isn't limited to one programming language. Even a Python app could
crash at run-time because of a bug in a Python module with an update that
has not been installed yet.

I think we are ill-advised if we publish a steady flood of updates (even for
old dist releases), but want users to install updates less frequently.
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Re: glibc causing crashes in most anything that does DNS lookups in F16

2011-08-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-08-08 at 15:24 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
 Hey, folks.
 
 So lately Firefox has been crashing a ton for me on F16 (and Evolution's
 been disappearing silently too - bet it's the same cause). Today I fired
 it up from a console and found out what the error was:
 
 __libc_res_nquery: Assertion `hp != hp2' failed.
 
 then I tried to use Epiphany for a bit and found it was crashing on
 exactly the same error!
 
 A bit of detective work led to:
 
 https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/24615
 
 apparently Arch has been seeing the same thing. They've addressed it by
 reverting the following upstream glibc commit:
 
 http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=4769ae77fc6c8dacea6476addb015c8797848cdd
 
 I've just built an F16 glibc with that reversion to test locally,
 haven't installed it yet. Just wanted to flag this up and see if anyone
 else has seen the same thing, and whether we should just revert the
 change in Fedora, fix it, deal with upstream or what...
 
 I suspect it may be a _bit_ more complicated than 'any failed DNS query
 invariably causes app to crash in all situations', as I'd have expected
 a bit more of an outcry. But I'm certainly getting a ton of crashes
 here. It may depend a little on exact DNS server configuration or
 something.

So Shawn Starr mentioned on IRC that his Firefox was crashing a ton in
F16, and sure enough, when I asked him to run from a console, turned out
he was hitting this.

He found an upstream report with a patch:

http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13013

it'd be great if we could get that into Fedora glibc. Thanks!
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Re: Fwd: Rapid DHCP

2011-08-15 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 05:25:49PM -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 13:43 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
  On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Bill McGonigle b...@bfccomputing.com 
  wrote:
   On 08/03/2011 01:19 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
   The Ubuntu NM maintainer has posted a WIP patch that makes NM say it's
   connected immediately if at least one of IPv4 or IPv6 completes.
   Currently if both are enabled, NM won't say it's connected until both
   are done (and result in either success or failure).  That at least
   speeds up the perceived connection speed, which isn't a bad thing.
  
   Nice, that will help almost everybody, but possibly it could break
   somebody who's depending explicitly on IPv6 (or IPv4 in the other case)
   for an app and now thinks the network is up.
  
   How do apps, e.g. Thunderbird, know when they're online?  dbus, /sys?
  
   If this change happens, there ought to be a way for that small slice of
   apps to check to see that the stack they demand is really up, if they're
   depending on it (more directly than parsing text output of userland
   tools).  Probably this already exists, right?
  
  It seems like NM's state transitions need to become more explicit.
  1. IPv4 connected
  2. IPv6 connected
  3. internet connected (including proxy discovery)
 
 I wrote a blog post about this:
 
 http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2011/06/14/networkmanager-and-dual-stack-addressing/
 
 And we could do this.  But it's unlikely that app authors would actually
 are about this en masse since it's more than just a single yes/no sort
 of thing.  Next, you've got DNS lookups which can be either IPv4 or IPv6
 depending on what the DNS server returns; if you do an IPv4 request and
 the site's DNS server returns an  record, what do you do with that
 if you don't have IPv6 connectivity yet?  Basically it just gets more
 complicated, and I'm not optimistic that app authors will really hook
 into the additional information.  But it may still be worth trying.

Have you seen the IETF's Happy Eyeballs drafts?  It explains how to
implement apps and systems to provide the best user experience in the
face of various IPv4 + IPv6 connectivity combinations.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-03
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[Bug 730658] New: Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

2011-08-15 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730658

   Summary: Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-DateTime
AssignedTo: st...@silug.org
ReportedBy: iarn...@gmail.com
 QAContact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: st...@silug.org, iarn...@gmail.com,
fedora-perl-devel-l...@redhat.com
Classification: Fedora
  Story Points: ---
  Type: ---


Our perl-DateTime package bundles DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone. To
simplify maintenance, I would like to unbundle them and maintain them as
separate packages. (DateTime::TimeZone gets updated fairly frequently, but it's
not possible to get automatic notifications from Upstream Release Monitoring,
for example). It's also worth noting that neither suse nor debian bundle these
modules.

The original rationale for bundling was due to circular (build) dependencies.
This no longer applies for DateTime::Locale (DateTime::Locale does not require
DateTime). For DateTime::TimeZone, the circular dependencies can temporarily be
avoided using perl_bootstrap macro and appropriate filtering.

I've filed bug 730656 and bug 730657 for review of new perl-DateTime-Locale and
perl-DateTime-TimeZone packages.

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[Bug 730658] Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

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Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||730656, 730657

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[Bug 730658] Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730658

--- Comment #1 from Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 2011-08-15 05:40:40 EDT ---
I've prepared an updated spec that only includes DateTime. And since upstream
doesn't appear to have used 4 digits in the version number for a couple of
years, now, I think it's worthwhile bumping epoch again and reverting to
upstream's 2 digit version number.

Spec URL: http://iarnell.home.xs4all.nl/review/perl-DateTime.spec
SRPM URL:
http://iarnell.home.xs4all.nl/review/perl-DateTime-0.70-1.fc17.src.rpm

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[Bug 728487] perl-Shipwright-2.4.30 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728487

Upstream Release Monitoring upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org 
changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|perl-Shipwright-2.4.29 is   |perl-Shipwright-2.4.30 is
   |available   |available

--- Comment #1 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org 2011-08-15 06:45:48 EDT ---
Latest upstream release: 2.4.30
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 2.4.28
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Shipwright/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

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[Bug 715559] perl-Mojolicious-1.77 is available

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715559

Upstream Release Monitoring upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org 
changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|perl-Mojolicious-1.76 is|perl-Mojolicious-1.77 is
   |available   |available

--- Comment #15 from Upstream Release Monitoring 
upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org 2011-08-15 06:44:16 EDT ---
Latest upstream release: 1.77
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 1.65
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Mojolicious/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upstream_release_monitoring

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[Bug 730658] Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

2011-08-15 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730658

Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #2 from Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com 2011-08-15 06:45:50 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 I've filed bug 730656 and bug 730657 for review of new perl-DateTime-Locale 
 and
 perl-DateTime-TimeZone packages.

I'll take a look at those.

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[Bug 730658] Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

2011-08-15 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 2011-08-15 06:53:41 EDT ---
Thanks, Petr.

Unless Steve shows up, I would also appreciate a review of the changes here
too. It's not strictly required, but I basically rebuilt the spec from scratch,
so I think having a second pair of eyes take a look would be sensible.

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Broken dependencies: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-NOCpulse-Gritch has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
On i386:
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
On i386:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Re: Switch use in awstats

2011-08-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 08/13/2011 06:07 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
 
 Hi, Petr.
 
 I noticed yesterday that you had patched awstats to use if statements instead
 of the switch module. The switch module is now back in Fedora (it was removed
 from Perl core in 5.14 and is now a package in its own right) so feel free to
 remove your patch, awstats should build fine without it.
 
 Emmanuel
 

Hello Emmanuel,
I didn't package Switch module on purpose. Switch was removed from perl
core, because it had a lot of bug reports. I suppose using if-else is
safer.
Switch was packaged last week by spot, so maintainers could use it, but
they don't have to if they wish.

Best regards,
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[Bug 730658] Unbundle DateTime::Locale and DateTime::TimeZone

2011-08-15 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730658

Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
 AssignedTo|st...@silug.org |psab...@redhat.com

--- Comment #4 from Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com 2011-08-15 08:43:49 EDT ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 Thanks, Petr.
 
 Unless Steve shows up, I would also appreciate a review of the changes here
 too. It's not strictly required, but I basically rebuilt the spec from 
 scratch,
 so I think having a second pair of eyes take a look would be sensible.

Sure, no problem :)

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Re: Switch use in awstats

2011-08-15 Thread Iain Arnell
2011/8/15 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com:
 On 08/13/2011 06:07 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:

 Hi, Petr.

 I noticed yesterday that you had patched awstats to use if statements instead
 of the switch module. The switch module is now back in Fedora (it was removed
 from Perl core in 5.14 and is now a package in its own right) so feel free to
 remove your patch, awstats should build fine without it.

 Emmanuel


 Hello Emmanuel,
 I didn't package Switch module on purpose. Switch was removed from perl
 core, because it had a lot of bug reports. I suppose using if-else is
 safer.
 Switch was packaged last week by spot, so maintainers could use it, but
 they don't have to if they wish.


Or use Perl's native switch syntax: given/when. See Switch
statements in perlsyn for details.


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Re: Switch use in awstats

2011-08-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 08/15/2011 03:04 PM, Iain Arnell wrote:
 2011/8/15 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com:
 On 08/13/2011 06:07 PM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:

 Hi, Petr.

 I noticed yesterday that you had patched awstats to use if statements 
 instead
 of the switch module. The switch module is now back in Fedora (it was 
 removed
 from Perl core in 5.14 and is now a package in its own right) so feel free 
 to
 remove your patch, awstats should build fine without it.

 Emmanuel


 Hello Emmanuel,
 I didn't package Switch module on purpose. Switch was removed from perl
 core, because it had a lot of bug reports. I suppose using if-else is
 safer.
 Switch was packaged last week by spot, so maintainers could use it, but
 they don't have to if they wish.

 
 Or use Perl's native switch syntax: given/when. See Switch
 statements in perlsyn for details.
 
 

Um, given/when have almost the same amount of bugs ;-) I'm not saying do
not use new syntax. But as a maintainer of many packages I prefer older
syntax.
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Broken dependencies: perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders-0.20-3.fc15.x86_64 requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
On i386:
perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders-0.20-3.fc15.i686 requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
On i386:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-9.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Shipwright

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-Shipwright has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Shipwright-2.4.24-2.fc16.noarch requires perl(that)
On i386:
perl-Shipwright-2.4.24-2.fc16.noarch requires perl(that)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Eval-LineNumbers

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-Eval-LineNumbers has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Eval-LineNumbers-0.31-1.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4)
On i386:
perl-Eval-LineNumbers-0.31-1.fc15.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.4)
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Broken dependencies: perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.013-3.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.013-3.fc16.noarch requires 
main_module)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.013-3.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var
On i386:
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.013-3.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.013-3.fc16.noarch requires 
main_module)
perl-CGI-Application-Structured-Tools-0.013-3.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(tmpl_var
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-NOCpulse-Gritch

2011-08-15 Thread buildsys


perl-NOCpulse-Gritch has broken dependencies in the F-16 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
On i386:
perl-NOCpulse-Gritch-1.27.9-1.fc16.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.3)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Re: Duplicate perl packages - perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib

2011-08-15 Thread Jesse Keating
On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
 On 08/15/2011 06:42 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Does anybody know what's going on with this?  Base perl has a sub package 
 for perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib (which gets its own version numbering).  It seems 
 to have been there for quite a while.
 
 Recently (March of last year) perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib was brought in as its 
 own package (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573929) but the 
 existing sub package was never removed, and exists to this day.
 
 Can somebody tell me what's going on here?  Which one is the true package, 
 which one needs to go away?
 
 I care because now we have mismatched version numbers for this package, and 
 it is causing some interesting scenarios when trying to use Fedora repos as 
 a koji external repo.  There may be more cases of this, I haven't done an 
 exhaustive search.
 
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 Updates of core modules were sometimes hard and we used this approach 
 few last releases: 
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Perl/updates#Updates_of_Perl_core_modules
 It should be working in rpm, but I wasn't aware of koji problems.
 
 I suppose that now we can live without dual life modules, because Perl 
 modules in core are updated more often. But I'd rather discuss it with 
 Perl SIG members before any action.


Upon further looking at the koji problem, these packages may not actually be 
causing my root issue, since they do come from separate SRPMs.  However I am 
curious if this strategy has ever gone though the packaging committee, releng, 
or fesco.

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Re: Duplicate perl packages - perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib

2011-08-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 08/15/2011 07:07 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
 On 08/15/2011 06:42 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
 Does anybody know what's going on with this?  Base perl has a sub package 
 for perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib (which gets its own version numbering).  It seems 
 to have been there for quite a while.

 Recently (March of last year) perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib was brought in as its 
 own package (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573929) but the 
 existing sub package was never removed, and exists to this day.

 Can somebody tell me what's going on here?  Which one is the true package, 
 which one needs to go away?

 I care because now we have mismatched version numbers for this package, and 
 it is causing some interesting scenarios when trying to use Fedora repos as 
 a koji external repo.  There may be more cases of this, I haven't done an 
 exhaustive search.

 --
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 identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

 Updates of core modules were sometimes hard and we used this approach
 few last releases:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Perl/updates#Updates_of_Perl_core_modules
 It should be working in rpm, but I wasn't aware of koji problems.

 I suppose that now we can live without dual life modules, because Perl
 modules in core are updated more often. But I'd rather discuss it with
 Perl SIG members before any action.


There are two solutions:
a/ don't ship sub-package from core perl and override them by package in 
Fedora. This will work well for perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib - 2.033 in perl, 
2.037 in separated package, but we will have borken debuginfo.
b/ remove dual life modules, which are outside of perl - will solve 
problem of broken debuginfo
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694704
Removal doesn't work for perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib, but it might work for 
other packages. Core modules are now updated more often, so we might not 
need dual life process.

Opinions? Better proposal?
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Re: Duplicate perl packages - perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib

2011-08-15 Thread Iain Arnell
2011/8/15 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com:

 There are two solutions:
 a/ don't ship sub-package from core perl and override them by package in
 Fedora. This will work well for perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib - 2.033 in perl,
 2.037 in separated package, but we will have borken debuginfo.

Doesn't broken debuginfo only come into play if we install the package
from cpan into core archlib directory. As long as we keep it in
separate vendorarch, there's no problem.

 b/ remove dual life modules, which are outside of perl - will solve
 problem of broken debuginfo
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694704
 Removal doesn't work for perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib, but it might work for
 other packages. Core modules are now updated more often, so we might not
 need dual life process.

Anything but this. We *will* end up wanting newer versions at some
point and be forced to go back to using unwieldy patches in perl.spec
again.

 Opinions? Better proposal?

Well, since Jesse then came back and wrote that koji doesn't seem to
be affected after all:

 Upon further looking at the koji problem, these packages may not actually be 
 causing my root issue, since they do come from separate SRPMs.


How about option (c). Keep things just as they are?

Or if there is a problem with koji, how about (d) fix koji. It's a
broken assumption that only binary sub-packages from a single source
rpm can exist in an external repo (I use koji at work to build
packages against SLES - Novell has a habit of releasing only affected
sub-packages as updates - if they fix a problem that only affects
bind-libs, for example, you'll only see a new bind-libs rpm in their
updates repo and be expected to install that with the original base
package. I'm fairly certain that I patched mergerepo to ignore this
restriction).

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