EPEL Fedora 5 updates-testing report

2014-01-12 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 630  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5
 121  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11560/fail2ban-0.8.10-4.el5
  85  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5
  60  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12091/bip-0.8.9-1.el5
  50  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12159/389-ds-base-1.2.11.25-1.el5
  50  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12169/gc-7.1-6.el5
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0112/drupal7-entity-1.3-1.el5
   1  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0132/graphviz-2.12-10.el5


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing

python-dirq-1.5-1.el5

Details about builds:



 python-dirq-1.5-1.el5 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0148)
 Directory based queue

Update Information:

Update to upstream version, rhbz #1049761.

ChangeLog:

* Sat Jan 11 2014 Massimo Paladin massimo.pala...@gmail.com - 1.5-1
- Update to upstream version, rhbz #1049761.
* Sun Aug  4 2013 Fedora Release Engineering rel-...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
- 1.4-2
- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild

References:

  [ 1 ] Bug #1049761 - Upgrade to new upstream version
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049761


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EPEL Fedora 6 updates-testing report

2014-01-12 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
 Age  URL
 630  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6
  87  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11865/quassel-0.9.1-1.el6
  60  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12079/bip-0.8.9-1.el6
  24  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-12427/seamonkey-2.21-3.esr2.el6
   8  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0026/x2goserver-4.0.1.10-1.el6
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0110/drupal7-entity-1.3-1.el6
   2  
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0105/strongswan-5.1.1-4.el6


The following builds have been pushed to Fedora EPEL 6 updates-testing

dmtcp-2.1-2.el6
php-horde-Horde-Alarm-2.0.5-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Auth-2.1.1-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Browser-2.0.4-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Cache-2.3.0-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Cli-2.0.4-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Compress-2.0.4-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Compress-Fast-1.0.2-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Crypt-2.4.0-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Date-2.0.7-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Db-2.0.4-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Exception-2.0.4-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Http-2.0.4-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Icalendar-2.0.7-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Image-2.0.5-2.el6
php-horde-Horde-Kolab-Format-2.0.5-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Ldap-2.0.3-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Log-2.1.0-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Mail-2.1.2-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Memcache-2.0.5-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Mime-2.2.8-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Perms-2.1.2-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Prefs-2.5.2-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Queue-1.1.1-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-SpellChecker-2.1.1-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Stream-1.5.0-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Stream-Filter-2.0.2-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Support-2.1.1-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Test-2.2.6-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Text-Filter-2.2.0-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Url-2.2.1-1.el6
php-horde-Horde-Vfs-2.1.2-2.el6
php-phpunit-DbUnit-1.3.0-1.el6
php-phpunit-File-Iterator-1.3.4-1.el6
php-phpunit-PHP-CodeCoverage-1.2.13-1.el6
php-phpunit-PHP-Invoker-1.1.3-2.el6
php-phpunit-PHP-Timer-1.0.5-1.el6
php-phpunit-PHP-TokenStream-1.2.1-1.el6
php-phpunit-PHPUnit-3.7.28-1.el6
php-phpunit-PHPUnit-Selenium-1.3.3-1.el6
python-dirq-1.5-1.el6

Details about builds:



 dmtcp-2.1-2.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0149)
 Checkpoint/Restart functionality for Linux processes

Update Information:

Updated for upstream release 2.1.

ChangeLog:

* Fri Jan 10 2014 Kapil Arya ka...@ccs.neu.edu - 2.1-1
- Preparing for upstream release 2.1.
* Thu Dec 12 2013 Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi - 1.2.8-2
- Install docs to %{_pkgdocdir} where available (#993726).
- Own package level doc dir.




 php-horde-Horde-Alarm-2.0.5-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0151)
 Horde Alarm Libraries

Update Information:

Update various Horde components to latest upstream version.

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 22 2013 Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org - 2.0.5-1
- Update to 2.0.5
- add optional dependencies




 php-horde-Horde-Auth-2.1.1-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0151)
 Horde Authentication API

Update Information:

Update various Horde components to latest upstream version.

ChangeLog:

* Tue Oct 15 2013 Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org - 2.1.1-1
- Update to 2.1.1




 php-horde-Horde-Browser-2.0.4-1.el6 (FEDORA-EPEL-2014-0151)
 Horde Browser API

Update Information:

Update various Horde components to latest upstream version.

ChangeLog:

* Tue Aug 27 2013 Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org - 2.0.4-1
- Update to 2.0.4




 

How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
Some thoughts:

  http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html
  http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/

  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group

There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review of
a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
package).

Many packager sponsors consider that a problem. I'm not the spokesperson
of all packager sponsors, though. ;)

It is not mandatory to hang out on IRC in hope of getting to know packager
sponsors. Not all packager sponsors hang out on IRC either. So, what may
work for some people may be seen as a hindrance by other new packagers.

Following the various options in the HOWTO and searching the Fedora
Account System (FAS) for packager sponsors has worked before, but requires
a minimum amount of activity prior to contacting a packager sponsor
privately.

I highly recommend people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue to attempt at reviewing
other packages in the NEW queue and to show at least some motivation.
Especially if the self-submitted package is not free of packaging mistakes.
Use the help of tools, such as fedora-review. Mention whether you've
looked at mock and koji already. Please don't sit and wait for a sponsor
for months without even trying to do a self-review of your own package.
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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:29:54AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:

 There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
 submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review of
 a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
 package).

Review your own package?

I think the aim of the review process is, that a second one should have
a look on your package to verify, that your package mmets the package
guidelines and so on.

Most people may be blind against thier onw mistakes, so it makes sense
that anonther one take a look on the package which should introduced 
to Fedora.

Best Regards:

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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Christopher Meng
Sometimes sponsorship is quite easy, this is unfair to other people around:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048966
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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread पराग़
Hi,

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.dewrote:

 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:29:54AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:

  There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
  submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review
 of
  a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
  package).

 Review your own package?


New contributors can also review their own package and show what things
they found in their package like how they found they have correct upstream
source matching checksum, how they found license tag for their package,
what rpmlint output they found etc. This applies even for other packages
also waiting for review. But, here what Michael want to point out that
people waiting for their package review who are also waiting for
sponsorship should at least look into
http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html and provide
their review findings so that other people will come to know any issues in
their package and they can be updated/progressed further.


 I think the aim of the review process is, that a second one should have
 a look on your package to verify, that your package mmets the package
 guidelines and so on.


For a new contributor, if he submitted many packages then whichever package
first gets reviewed should get approved by sponsor member.



 Most people may be blind against thier onw mistakes, so it makes sense
 that anonther one take a look on the package which should introduced
 to Fedora.



Regards,
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rawhide report: 20140112 changes

2014-01-12 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Jan 12 05:15:07 UTC 2014

Broken deps for i386
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nifti2dicom-0.4.6-3.fc20.i686 requires 

Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Matthias Runge
On 01/12/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Some thoughts:
 
   http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html
   http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/
 
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group
 
 There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
 submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review of
 a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
 package).
 
 Many packager sponsors consider that a problem. I'm not the spokesperson
 of all packager sponsors, though. ;)
 
Yes, I share this concern. Doing informal reviews is a significant part
of getting sponsored. I'd expect packagers to review their own review
requests (just to be sure, the first review doesn't fail for quite
obvious reasons).

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Why authconfig create -ac files

2014-01-12 Thread Miroslav Suchy

I just wonder why `authconfig` creates:
  /etc/pam.d/system-auth - system-auth-ac
  /etc/pam.d/postlogin - postlogin-ac
  /etc/pam.d/password-auth - password-auth-ac
  etc.

Why those links and why -ac suffix? Why it does not modify original 
files directly?

Is there some story behind?

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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:16:42 +0100, Jochen Schmitt wrote:

  There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
  submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review of
  a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
  package).
 
 Review your own package?

Of course! Everybody may review packages and even post the results.
Approving packages is something else.
 
 I think the aim of the review process is, that a second one should have
 a look on your package to verify, that your package mmets the package
 guidelines and so on.

Sure. That's the requirement for approval. You can only submit packages,
which meet the guidelines, if you review your own package. ;)
 
 Most people may be blind against thier onw mistakes, so it makes sense
 that anonther one take a look on the package which should introduced 
 to Fedora.

According to that theory, they would introduce the same mistakes once the
package has entered the collection, ... because there is no review process
for updates/upgrades anymore.
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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote:
 New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and
 the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too!

I see this using 0.4.11.  What am I doing wrong?

garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing update kernel\*
[sudo] password for garry:
Resolving dependencies
-- Starting dependency resolution
-- Finished dependency resolution
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
garry@vfr$ sudo yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update kernel\*
Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
[snip]
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kernel.x86_64 0:3.12.7-300.fc20 will be installed
--- Package kernel-devel.x86_64 0:3.12.7-300.fc20 will be installed
--- Package kernel-headers.x86_64 0:3.12.6-300.fc20 will be updated
--- Package kernel-headers.x86_64 0:3.12.7-300.fc20 will be an update
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
-- Finding unneeded leftover dependencies
Found and removing 0 unneeded dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kernel.x86_64 0:3.11.8-200.fc19 will be erased
--- Package kernel-devel.x86_64 0:3.11.8-200.fc19 will be erased
-- Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved


 PackageArch   VersionRepository   Size

Installing:
 kernel x86_64 3.12.7-300.fc20updates-testing  30 M
 kernel-devel   x86_64 3.12.7-300.fc20updates-testing 8.5 M
Updating:
 kernel-headers x86_64 3.12.7-300.fc20updates-testing 913 k
Removing:
 kernel x86_64 3.11.8-200.fc19@updates/19 128 M
 kernel-devel   x86_64 3.11.8-200.fc19@updates/19  31 M

Transaction Summary

Install  2 Packages
Upgrade  1 Package
Remove   2 Packages

Total download size: 40 M
Is this ok [y/d/N]: n
Exiting on user command
Your transaction was saved, rerun it with:
 yum load-transaction /tmp/yum_save_tx.2014-01-12.11-20.aiCKeH.yumtx
garry@vfr$ sudo dnf clean all
Cleaning repos: fedora rpmfusion-free-updates adobe-linux-x86_64
  : rpmfusion-nonfree-updates rpmfusion-free updates google-chrome
  : rpmfusion-nonfree
Cleaning up Everything
garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\*
Fedora 20 - x86_64  144 kB/s |  36 MB 04:14
RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Free - Updates97 kB/s |  72 kB 00:00
Adobe Systems Incorporated  8.7 kB/s | 1.8 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Nonfree - Updates 29 kB/s |  13 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Free 124 kB/s | 487 kB 00:03
Fedora 20 - x86_64 - Updates125 kB/s |  12 MB 01:38
google-chrome26 kB/s | 3.1 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 20 - Nonfree  113 kB/s | 289 kB 00:02
Resolving dependencies
-- Starting dependency resolution
-- Finished dependency resolution
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
garry@vfr$

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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 11:39:35 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Garry T. Williams  wrote:
  On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote:
   New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and
   the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too!
 
  I see this using 0.4.11.  What am I doing wrong?
 
 http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/

Yes, I have reviewed all that.  That reference says,

The bottom line is: unless a real update problem occurs (i.e. DNF
refuses to update a package that Yum updates) with the same set of
metadata (dnf clean all; yum clean all), this is not an issue.

I did dnf clean all and the updates-testing package is still not found
by dnf.

Hey, I'm just testing.  It looks like a bug, but I wanted to see if I
was overlooking something.

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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote:
 I'm coming to the conclusion that at some point distros have to give up
 swimming against the tide and just say, look, if this is the way this
 ecosystem wants to go, then it's your problem. Fedora's job for such
 ecosystems would simply be to make sure their distribution mechanism
 works on top of Fedora - if it's one we care about - and then butt out.
 I'm not sure we're achieving anything practical for anyone by bending
 PHP / Java / nodejs / Ruby packages 120 degrees out of shape to conform
 to Fedora's packaging guidelines (often at the cost that we have to turn
 stuff off, or break stuff, or be months or years behind upstream, or be
 massively incomplete), and I say this as someone who's spent the last
 couple of weeks whacking on a PHPland stack (Owncloud) with a wrench to
 achieve precisely that.

At that point, we can just close shop, we are no longer fulfilling our role 
as a distribution. I also agree completely with Nicolas Mailhot's reply: 
That is NOT what our users want!

Making the software conform to packaging best practices is exactly what we 
packagers are for. It is the only way to deploy software in a reliable, 
well-integrated, secure and space-efficient way. Having multiple competing 
deployment systems on the same machine invariably leads to integration 
issues (where the ones stacked on top can get surprised when a lower-level 
system changes or removes something like a system library, say because the 
user accidentally removed it, not knowing that something outside of the 
system package management requires it). And the security and disk space 
implications of bundling have been discussed many times already.

So, like Matthew Miller, I think we cannot possibly punt on this issue, but 
I totally DISAGREE with his proposed solution of endorsing those bundling 
systems officially. Instead, we need to continue packaging things properly.

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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-01-12 at 18:55 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Adam Williamson wrote:
  I'm coming to the conclusion that at some point distros have to give up
  swimming against the tide and just say, look, if this is the way this
  ecosystem wants to go, then it's your problem. Fedora's job for such
  ecosystems would simply be to make sure their distribution mechanism
  works on top of Fedora - if it's one we care about - and then butt out.
  I'm not sure we're achieving anything practical for anyone by bending
  PHP / Java / nodejs / Ruby packages 120 degrees out of shape to conform
  to Fedora's packaging guidelines (often at the cost that we have to turn
  stuff off, or break stuff, or be months or years behind upstream, or be
  massively incomplete), and I say this as someone who's spent the last
  couple of weeks whacking on a PHPland stack (Owncloud) with a wrench to
  achieve precisely that.
 
 At that point, we can just close shop, we are no longer fulfilling our role 
 as a distribution. I also agree completely with Nicolas Mailhot's reply: 
 That is NOT what our users want!
 
 Making the software conform to packaging best practices is exactly what we 
 packagers are for. It is the only way to deploy software in a reliable, 
 well-integrated, secure and space-efficient way. Having multiple competing 
 deployment systems on the same machine invariably leads to integration 
 issues (where the ones stacked on top can get surprised when a lower-level 
 system changes or removes something like a system library, say because the 
 user accidentally removed it, not knowing that something outside of the 
 system package management requires it). And the security and disk space 
 implications of bundling have been discussed many times already.
 
 So, like Matthew Miller, I think we cannot possibly punt on this issue, but 
 I totally DISAGREE with his proposed solution of endorsing those bundling 
 systems officially. Instead, we need to continue packaging things properly.

Have you looked at what people are installing on Fedora lately? Have you
looked at how much PHP stuff there is out there vs. what we have
packaged 'properly'? Java? Ruby? Do you know anyone who deploys
Wordpress plugins via distribution packages?
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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 12.01.2014 19:39, schrieb Adam Williamson:
 Have you looked at what people are installing on Fedora lately? Have you
 looked at how much PHP stuff there is out there vs. what we have
 packaged 'properly'? Java? Ruby? Do you know anyone who deploys
 Wordpress plugins via distribution packages?

that has other reasons

on a typical webserver you have not *the* wordpress and *the* wordpress
plugins - you have 10,20,30,100,500 *independent* wordpress setups

for production the only case where you can use distribution packages
is if you have a dedicated machines / VM serving only one website



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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 18:18:00 M A Young wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote:
  On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote:
  New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and
  the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too!
 
  I see this using 0.4.11.  What am I doing wrong?
 
  garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing update kernel\*
  [sudo] password for garry:
  Resolving dependencies
  -- Starting dependency resolution
  -- Finished dependency resolution
  Dependencies resolved.
  Nothing to do.

 Try
 dnf clean expire-cache
 first. I don't think dnf checks whether its metadata is up to date as
 frequently as yum does.

Ha!  That was it.

sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean expire-cache
sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\*

did the trick.

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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 12 January 2014 21:06, Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1-12-14 18:18:00 M A Young wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote:
  On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote:
  New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and
  the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too!
 
  I see this using 0.4.11.  What am I doing wrong?
 
  garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing update kernel\*
  [sudo] password for garry:
  Resolving dependencies
  -- Starting dependency resolution
  -- Finished dependency resolution
  Dependencies resolved.
  Nothing to do.

 Try
 dnf clean expire-cache
 first. I don't think dnf checks whether its metadata is up to date as
 frequently as yum does.

 Ha!  That was it.

 sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean expire-cache
 sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\*

 did the trick.


'dnf clean all' does what 'clean expire-cache' does, and more. (check
the man page)

It could be that dnf picked another mirror this time, or it used the
same mirror and that mirror has synced with the master mirror(s).

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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 11:30:31 you wrote:
 On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote:
  New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and
  the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too!
 
 I see this using 0.4.11.  What am I doing wrong?

[snip]

 garry@vfr$ sudo dnf clean all
 Cleaning repos: fedora rpmfusion-free-updates adobe-linux-x86_64
   : rpmfusion-nonfree-updates rpmfusion-free updates google-chrome
   : rpmfusion-nonfree
 Cleaning up Everything
 garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\*

The real problem was not including the updates-testing repo in the
clean all command.

And yes, as Michael commented, dnf doesn't expire meta-data as often
as yum.

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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-12 Thread Alek Paunov

On 10.01.2014 21:12, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 07:58:44PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:

So the question becomes, what is it appropriate for a distribution to do
in this situation? My personal opinion is that what's appropriate for a
distribution to do is also, happily, what's easiest for a distribution
to do: punt on it. Entirely punt on the whole thing.



And, this ultimately makes a better experience for users, because if
Fedora's included tools are aware of the native packaging system, we can do
things like system auditing, security alerts (if not updates), maybe even
integration with selinux policy. Basically, we don't hammer all of the
possible universe into the distribution model, and we don't include all of
the packages of everything in the base Fedora distribution as RPMs, but we
do include those ecosystems in the Fedora _Project_, including the tools and
documentation to make them feel natural.



Your expression  ... tools aware of the native packaging system
and the Andrew comment about the pip behaviors above in the thread,
encouraged me to share my big hammer of the DB plumber style :-)
opinion on the problem.

TL;DR: What follows is SCC: An idea for optional DB and service which
caches bits from YumDB, the local state (RPMDB and /etc) plus the
native systems like NPM in the unified way for the purposes of
planning, resolving and performing system state transitions.

Initially I meant to say just few words to mark the possibility, but
obviously my English and talent for easy for reading and well focused
messages are both far from good, so the whole thing become too long and
I am going to split some additional notes into self replays - Excuses!

RPMDB and YumDB are two rich datasets present on every Fedora instance
representing respectively the local state and distribution+ state of the
package universe. '+' because +Fusion*, +COPRs, +LocalOrg, etc.
Unfortunately they are somewhat hidden in the dark, because lack of
interfaces - we even missing SVG or other explorer for the YumDB graph.

The (let think of them as virtual) Maven DB, PyPI DB, NPM DB, LuaRocks
DB, etc, technically are subsets of YumDB (in sense richness of encoded
logical relations between the DB nodes used in their schemes - e.g. PyPI
DB, before the pip egg, do not knows which file from which module comes,
nor have the concept of higher than package NV granularity of the
requirement points - Provides and Requires in YumDB). Also, the
depsolving of the native packaging systems is less sophisticated than
both current yum and hawkey ones.

These observation naturally lead to the idea of SCC: System
Configuration Cache DB representing the merge of RPMDB, YumDB and e.g.
local pip egs, PyPI DB (if e.g. additional python modules/versions are
needed for the given deployment) where the depsolving could be shifted,
somewhat in the same fashion as Data warehouse solutions are used in the
enterprises for merging the significant datasets from various ERP
systems into single DB for interactive time reporting and decision
making.

I am using the term SCC (vs. e.g. UPMC: Unified Package Metadata Cache)
in attempt to cover a (paraphrased) Mirek question from the beginning of
the thread - OK, we have Fedora and PyPI integrated, at one point of
the time for a given instance, the Fedora packaged module has been
chosen. What happens if we upgrade Fedora along with am incompatible
version this Python module for given installed service - obviously we
need to register in the SCC the dependencies of the installed machine
roles with the same effect like Require clauses in the our packages, so
the SCC machinery to validate (with negative result in this described
case) the yum upgrade or to resolve the upgrade including installation
of newest available compatible version from PyPI as an alternative
provision during upgrade preparation.

Further, I think that ideally SCC should parse/absorb as much as
possible system object properties and relations from /etc (plus /lib and
/var configuration areas) to allow sysadmins and devops to inject rules
for effective use of these sets latter in the depsolving (and other DB
functionality). That said, the integration with OpenLMI, or even
implementing the whole thing under the OpenLMI umbrella, both seems
natural.

So, finally on that road we have:

- choice for good enough DB engine for SCC, query language, compiler
  [*], etc. design decisions like sync protocol and plugable data
  sources.

- Yum/RPM datasets: optional rpm, yum, hawkey hooks for syncing their
  DBs, alternatively just sync tools.

- optional pip, npm, luarocks, etc. hooks for the same, alternatively
  just sync tools.

- OpenLMI integration for absorbing system configuration, alternatively
  just Augeas import + transformation rules to sync the DB
  representation of the system objects.

- sccd capable to:
  - depsolving (on top of cumulative - YumDB + native managers DBs,
preferably providing interfaces to the system 

Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 1-12-14 20:27:26 Reindl Harald wrote:
 dnf clean all without dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all
 does exactly *nothing* in case of updates-testing, the same for
 YUM simply because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for
 any operation

Yeah, I feel pretty stupid now.

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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 12.01.2014 21:38, schrieb Garry T. Williams:
 On 1-12-14 20:27:26 Reindl Harald wrote:
 dnf clean all without dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all
 does exactly *nothing* in case of updates-testing, the same for
 YUM simply because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for
 any operation
 
 Yeah, I feel pretty stupid now

no - the better question is why all does not mean really *all*

however, instead of yum clean all i use rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*
for al least 7 years because *that* means really all, in case of
DNF most likely rm -rf /var/cache/dnf/* would be required





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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-12 Thread Alek Paunov

On 12.01.2014 22:34, Alek Paunov wrote:

[*] Crucial aspect of any sophisticated data management system is the
 data query and manipulation language. Unfortunately the choices are
 rather limited - Imperative approaches (recently resurrected by some
 NoSQL DBs) are weak and error prone; SQL and few more text prose
 languages have proven their incompatibility with the vast majority
 of the developers (these without years of specific experience around
 the data volumes processing). The predominant workaround seems to be
 ORMs, but ORMs and sophisticated/fast should not be mixed in same
 project :-).



My personal preference leans towards rules approach (which e.g. is also
adopted by at least one of the ERP innovation leaders - LogicBlox) and
especially its variant of visual rules definition UIs, where the user
describes dependencies (relations) between source and result trees of a
operations using blocks and arrows, and then the compiler lowers the the
whole transaction definition to executable (by the DB engine),
procedure.

IMHO, such kind of visual interface would be one of the possible
adequate languages (Adequate to the DB specialization level of our
target audience, including big share of the developers).

My personal preferences for the lower level executable language and DB
engine are LuaJIT procedures on top of SQlite4/LSM C API.

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Re: Grub installation. First potential Fedora killer

2014-01-12 Thread Jean François Martinez
Installer sees the partitions of other Linuxes.  But when rebooting after 
installation Fedora was the only choice.

Running grub2-mkconfig fixed it, ie other distribution became available.  Sort 
of.  Problems:
1)  Fedora was the default and there is no easy way (that is without reading 
the 150+ pages of Grub documentation to change that)
2)  If user does not know about grub2-mkconfig he will believe he is trapped 
in Fedora and will be very, very angry
3)  Every time he runs the other distribution and updates it he needs to 
rebooot into Fedora and run grub2-mkconfig 

On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 15:28:34 -0700
Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 
 On Jan 6, 2014, at 2:35 PM, Jean François Martinez jfm...@free.fr wrote:
 
  Centos 6 wasn't detected at install time.
 
 This is rather vague. Do you mean the installer doesn't see any of the CentOS 
 partitions/LVs? Or CentOS isn't included as a grub menu item after installing 
 Fedora 20?
 
 
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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes - SCC: Fedora social

2014-01-12 Thread Alek Paunov

On 12.01.2014 22:34, Alek Paunov wrote:

- sccd-web: WebUI exposing full functionality, alternatively Cockpit
   (OpenLMI WebUI) extension.


...



- NTH: SCC local state inheritance between instances


Fedora Social: Almost every developer or sysadmins like to demonstrate
how clean and clever is his own design :-).

Currently we do not have a service where Sandra, Joe and George [1]
could:
 - show and share with the others their Fedora based setups
 - conveniently keep the setup for their own reuse in the future

Once we have sccd-web and few NTHs, we will be nearly (at least as code)
equipped to provide something like github for Fedora setups for
publishing, referring in the e-mails and forking Fedora users work.

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Personas

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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes - SCC

2014-01-12 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Alek Paunov a...@declera.com wrote:

 
 Once we apply FS snapshotting, combined with the SCC NTHs above, there
 are at least two appealing use-cases:
 
 - reusing one base e.g. F20 server container image for both the host and
  the incompatible containers (e.g. when one application requires nodejs
  0.8 and another nodejs 0.10)
 
 - easy testbed for resolving the upgrade path for an existing, possibly
  non pure Fedora server with care about the deployed services.

I agree, there are quite a few use cases for file system snapshots. Do the 
snapshots need to be bootable? 


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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Miroslav Suchy

On 01/12/2014 08:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

dnf clean all without dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all does
exactly*nothing*  in case of updates-testing, the same for YUM simply
because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for any operation


And is this correct behavior? (and yum behaves same way, so same 
question apply to yum as well).


Man page for yum state:

yum clean metadata
Eliminate  all  of the files which yum uses to determine the remote 
availability of packages. Using this option will force yum to

download all the metadata the next time it is run.

There is no statement that it apply only for *currently enabled* repository.
I would expect that it clean *all* metadata.

I was recently very surprised that when I done :

# rpm -q yum
yum-3.4.3-128.fc20.noarch
# yum clean all
...
# du -sh /var/cache/yum/x86_64/*
225M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/19
111M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/20
406M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/rawhide

that there is a lot of data in /var. To be precise - after this 
operation I would expect that /var/cache/yum/x86_64/ would have zero 
size. And not 730 MB.


DNF is on the same boat:
# rpm -q dnf
dnf-0.4.9-1.fc20.noarch
# dnf clean all
Cleaning repos: fedora rpmfusion-free-updates adobe-linux-x86_64 Dropbox 
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates rpmfusion-free updates rpmfusion-nonfree

Cleaning up Everything
# du -sh /var/cache/dnf/x86_64/*
114M/var/cache/dnf/x86_64/19
34M /var/cache/dnf/x86_64/20

Do others feel that this is correct or incorrect behavior?

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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 12.01.2014 22:42, schrieb Miroslav Suchy:
 On 01/12/2014 08:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 dnf clean all without dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all does
 exactly *nothing*  in case of updates-testing, the same for YUM simply
 because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for any operation
 
 And is this correct behavior? (and yum behaves same way, so same question 
 apply to yum as well).

no, i only explained the current state of play

looking at the word all and it's meaing clearly *no*
looking at the thread and result of the behavior clearely *no*
looking at that people use updates-testing with --enablerepo *no*
looking at the fact that i do not trust the word all clearly *no*

 Man page for yum state:
 
 yum clean metadata
 Eliminate  all  of the files which yum uses to determine the remote 
 availability of packages. Using this option
 will force yum to
 download all the metadata the next time it is run.
 
 There is no statement that it apply only for *currently enabled* repository.
 I would expect that it clean *all* metadata.
 
 I was recently very surprised that when I done :
 
 # rpm -q yum
 yum-3.4.3-128.fc20.noarch
 # yum clean all
 ...
 # du -sh /var/cache/yum/x86_64/*
 225M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/19
 111M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/20
 406M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/rawhide
 
 that there is a lot of data in /var. To be precise - after this operation I 
 would expect that
 /var/cache/yum/x86_64/ would have zero size. And not 730 MB.

and that is why i switched 7 years ago to rm -rf /var/cache/yum*



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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
I have come to understand that for yum, commands like clean only applies to
the actual buildroot. So without a -r argument, the cleaning is done on the
default root, whatever this might be(?).

Actually, there is probably nothing wrong with this - it works fine when
using the -r option. Problems comes without it, when one thinks it applies
to all buildroots. It would perhaps make sense outputting something like
Using buildroot foo when there is no -r on the command line(?).



On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:


 Am 12.01.2014 22:42, schrieb Miroslav Suchy:
  On 01/12/2014 08:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
  dnf clean all without dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all
 does
  exactly *nothing*  in case of updates-testing, the same for YUM simply
  because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for any operation
 
  And is this correct behavior? (and yum behaves same way, so same
 question apply to yum as well).

 no, i only explained the current state of play

 looking at the word all and it's meaing clearly *no*
 looking at the thread and result of the behavior clearely *no*
 looking at that people use updates-testing with --enablerepo *no*
 looking at the fact that i do not trust the word all clearly *no*

  Man page for yum state:
 
  yum clean metadata
  Eliminate  all  of the files which yum uses to determine the remote
 availability of packages. Using this option
  will force yum to
  download all the metadata the next time it is run.
 
  There is no statement that it apply only for *currently enabled*
 repository.
  I would expect that it clean *all* metadata.
 
  I was recently very surprised that when I done :
 
  # rpm -q yum
  yum-3.4.3-128.fc20.noarch
  # yum clean all
  ...
  # du -sh /var/cache/yum/x86_64/*
  225M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/19
  111M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/20
  406M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/rawhide
 
  that there is a lot of data in /var. To be precise - after this
 operation I would expect that
  /var/cache/yum/x86_64/ would have zero size. And not 730 MB.

 and that is why i switched 7 years ago to rm -rf /var/cache/yum*


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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald
from a developers point of view the current behavior is clear and perfect
what is not enabled is handeled as it would not exist

means:
repos with enabled=0 are completly ignored until --enablrepo with no
but and if - clear and straight logical decision

from a users point of view all has a different meaning

well, i can live with both because i am developer and i know
how these things are working, i know that the codebase is much
cleaner the way it works currently

personally i would draw the line in case if it is my code and act
like the user expects it, not in general, but in that case of
meaningless data which are refreshed and no bad impact if lost

Am 12.01.2014 22:57, schrieb Alec Leamas:
 I have come to understand that for yum, commands like clean only applies to 
 the actual buildroot. So without a -r
 argument, the cleaning is done on the default root, whatever this might be(?).
 
 Actually, there is probably nothing wrong with this - it works fine when 
 using the -r option. Problems comes
 without it, when one thinks it applies to all buildroots. It would perhaps 
 make sense outputting something like
 Using buildroot foo when there is no -r on the command line(?).
 
 
 
 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net 
 mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 
 
 Am 12.01.2014 22:42, schrieb Miroslav Suchy:
  On 01/12/2014 08:27 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
  dnf clean all without dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all 
 does
  exactly *nothing*  in case of updates-testing, the same for YUM 
 simply
  because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for any operation
 
  And is this correct behavior? (and yum behaves same way, so same 
 question apply to yum as well).
 
 no, i only explained the current state of play
 
 looking at the word all and it's meaing clearly *no*
 looking at the thread and result of the behavior clearely *no*
 looking at that people use updates-testing with --enablerepo *no*
 looking at the fact that i do not trust the word all clearly *no*
 
  Man page for yum state:
 
  yum clean metadata
  Eliminate  all  of the files which yum uses to determine the remote 
 availability of packages. Using this option
  will force yum to
  download all the metadata the next time it is run.
 
  There is no statement that it apply only for *currently enabled* 
 repository.
  I would expect that it clean *all* metadata.
 
  I was recently very surprised that when I done :
 
  # rpm -q yum
  yum-3.4.3-128.fc20.noarch
  # yum clean all
  ...
  # du -sh /var/cache/yum/x86_64/*
  225M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/19
  111M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/20
  406M/var/cache/yum/x86_64/rawhide
 
  that there is a lot of data in /var. To be precise - after this 
 operation I would expect that
  /var/cache/yum/x86_64/ would have zero size. And not 730 MB.
 
 and that is why i switched 7 years ago to rm -rf /var/cache/yum*



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Re: Grub installation. First potential Fedora killer

2014-01-12 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jean François Martinez jfm...@free.fr wrote:

 Installer sees the partitions of other Linuxes.  But when rebooting after 
 installation Fedora was the only choice.
 
 Running grub2-mkconfig fixed it, ie other distribution became available.  
 Sort of.  Problems:
 1)  Fedora was the default and there is no easy way (that is without reading 
 the 150+ pages of Grub documentation to change that)
 2)  If user does not know about grub2-mkconfig he will believe he is 
 trapped in Fedora and will be very, very angry
 3)  Every time he runs the other distribution and updates it he needs to 
 rebooot into Fedora and run grub2-mkconfig 

Right, I didn't mean to indicate that multiboot on linux doesn't completely 
suck, or that linux distros are friendly to each other rather than behaving in 
a cannibalistic fashion by default. GRUB2 really isn't meant for mortal users, 
just for the members of the lunacy asylum, so this really should work better 
than it does yet here we are.

Is this computer by any chance UEFI firmware based? Or is it BIOS? That matters.

On BIOS what's supposed to happen is anaconda calls grub2-mkconfig which in 
turn uses os-prober to find other OS's and create something sensible in 
grub.cfg. That doesn't always work for various reasons, in particular on UEFI. 
What you're probably better off doing, is editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom to add 
a very basic entry to locate the CentOS grub.conf. Something like this:

menuentry 'CentOS menu'  {
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt4 
--hint-efi=hd0,gpt4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt4  
d7bc9d0e-7706-44f9-b1a7-ff24b7c360a7
legacyconfigfile $prefix/grub.conf
}


Not all hints are needed. Obviously change hd0,gpt4 with the right hint for the 
hard drive and partition and partition scheme for where CentOS /boot is 
located. The important one, really, is the UUID at the end, which is the file 
system UUID for the CentOS boot partition (or rootfs if /boot is a directory on 
root). The legacyconfigfile command allows GRUB2 to read legacy GRUB 
configuration files. $prefix you should replace with /boot/grub if /boot is a 
directory on rootfs or /grub if it's on its own partition.

Now grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and this entry will be added to your 
Fedora 20 grub.cfg. You'll get an entry that points to the CentOS menu. If you 
choose it, the CentOS menu list of kernels should appear. If you want to make 
this a default behavior, you'll need to read about $menuentry_id_option for 
your CentOS menu entry in the Fedora grub.cfg. By giving it a unique ID, you 
can then specify it as the default by that same id in /etc/default/grub.

Yes it's like pulling teeth.


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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all
metadata rather than all repositories.

That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some
kind of improvement motivated.

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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:
 Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all
 metadata rather than all repositories.

 That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some kind
 of improvement motivated.


I am pretty sure if you flip the current behavior and make 'clean all'
act on disabled repos, some other subset of users (e.g. me) will be
confused.

Best,
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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.01.2014 00:17, schrieb Orcan Ogetbil:
 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:
 Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all
 metadata rather than all repositories.

 That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some kind
 of improvement motivated.

 
 I am pretty sure if you flip the current behavior and make 'clean all'
 act on disabled repos, some other subset of users (e.g. me) will be
 confused

please explain how you would be confused

clean all would only delete metadata which are anyways refreshed
at the next call with whatever repo enabled and clean all is there
to make sure that *all* metadata is refreshed instead use maybe outdated



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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled
repos. Or should not have. yum clean all refers to cleaning all metadata,
not all repos. It only operates on one single repo, be it implicit (the
default link) or an explicit -r option.

This is what confuses. I know:  been there done that... Even though the
documents are clear, the behaviour does indeed cause confusion for some
reason even though it's well-defined.

Of course, changing semantics for yum is a bad idea, agreed. I did not have
anything like that in mind. At most, some info on what buildroot which is
used in the output, or similar measures.

For dnf, I guess one could possibly think somewhat more free. Personally, I
tend to think that it's the implicit buildroot which causes much of this
trouble.

What happens if we get rid of the implcit buildroot, forcing us to specify
it every time? With 'default' as a legal option? Personally, I tend to
think this might make things a little clearer.

Just my 5 öre
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On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:17 AM, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:
  Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all
  metadata rather than all repositories.
 
  That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some
 kind
  of improvement motivated.
 

 I am pretty sure if you flip the current behavior and make 'clean all'
 act on disabled repos, some other subset of users (e.g. me) will be
 confused.

 Best,
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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.01.2014 00:43, schrieb Alec Leamas:
 First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled repos. 
 Or should not have. yum clean all
 refers to cleaning all metadata, not all repos. It only operates on one 
 single repo, be it implicit (the default
 link) or an explicit -r option.
 
 This is what confuses. I know:  been there done that... Even though the 
 documents are clear, the behaviour does
 indeed cause confusion for some reason even though it's well-defined.
 
 Of course, changing semantics for yum is a bad idea, agreed. I did not have 
 anything like that in mind. At most,
 some info on what buildroot which is used in the output, or similar measures.
 
 For dnf, I guess one could possibly think somewhat more free. Personally, I 
 tend to think that it's the implicit
 buildroot which causes much of this trouble.
 
 What happens if we get rid of the implcit buildroot, forcing us to specify it 
 every time? With 'default' as a legal
 option? Personally, I tend to think this might make things a little clearer.

*what* is a buildroot in case of YUM/DNF?

in any case nothing relevant for a user and said that i use Fedora and YUM for
many years, the only conetxt of buildroot for me is rpmbuild and that has no
context to YUM/DNF at all





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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Alec Leamas
Yes, sorry, forget what I wrote. I messed up mock with yum, that's why.
It's too late for me to chime in here. Sorry for the noise.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:49 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:



 Am 13.01.2014 00:43, schrieb Alec Leamas:
  First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled
 repos. Or should not have. yum clean all
  refers to cleaning all metadata, not all repos. It only operates on one
 single repo, be it implicit (the default
  link) or an explicit -r option.
 
  This is what confuses. I know:  been there done that... Even though the
 documents are clear, the behaviour does
  indeed cause confusion for some reason even though it's well-defined.
 
  Of course, changing semantics for yum is a bad idea, agreed. I did not
 have anything like that in mind. At most,
  some info on what buildroot which is used in the output, or similar
 measures.
 
  For dnf, I guess one could possibly think somewhat more free.
 Personally, I tend to think that it's the implicit
  buildroot which causes much of this trouble.
 
  What happens if we get rid of the implcit buildroot, forcing us to
 specify it every time? With 'default' as a legal
  option? Personally, I tend to think this might make things a little
 clearer.

 *what* is a buildroot in case of YUM/DNF?

 in any case nothing relevant for a user and said that i use Fedora and YUM
 for
 many years, the only conetxt of buildroot for me is rpmbuild and that
 has no
 context to YUM/DNF at all




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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-01-12 at 19:43 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 Am 12.01.2014 19:39, schrieb Adam Williamson:
  Have you looked at what people are installing on Fedora lately? Have you
  looked at how much PHP stuff there is out there vs. what we have
  packaged 'properly'? Java? Ruby? Do you know anyone who deploys
  Wordpress plugins via distribution packages?
 
 that has other reasons
 
 on a typical webserver you have not *the* wordpress and *the* wordpress
 plugins - you have 10,20,30,100,500 *independent* wordpress setups
 
 for production the only case where you can use distribution packages
 is if you have a dedicated machines / VM serving only one website

Sure, but that just backs up my point further. Even in the case where
you have an 'appliance' style setup, you _can_ use distro packages, but
why would you bother? If it's a single-purpose system then you don't get
much benefit from doing so. Does RH base pre-rolled openshift gears on
Fedora or RHEL distribution packages? I don't think so.
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Re: Inter-WG coordination: Stable application runtimes

2014-01-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2014-01-12 at 20:58 +0100, Till Maas wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:39:19AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
  On Sun, 2014-01-12 at 18:55 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
 
   So, like Matthew Miller, I think we cannot possibly punt on this issue, 
   but 
   I totally DISAGREE with his proposed solution of endorsing those bundling 
   systems officially. Instead, we need to continue packaging things 
   properly.
  
  Have you looked at what people are installing on Fedora lately? Have you
  looked at how much PHP stuff there is out there vs. what we have
  packaged 'properly'? Java? Ruby? Do you know anyone who deploys
  Wordpress plugins via distribution packages?
 
 Even if people do it, it does not meant that it is the best way to do
 it. Mixed packaging makes it a lot harder to properly update in case of
 security vulnerabilities. E.g. instead of only checking/ensuring proper
 RPM updates one need to check each distribution method for regular
 updates. Is there even some tooling available to check/update all e.g.
 rbenv or virtualenv setups properly?

You're preaching to the choir. But if in practice people really don't
deploy things via the distribution packages, it doesn't matter how
awesomely secure the distribution packages are. Something that you're
not using is never providing you with any additional security.
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non-responsive maintainer

2014-01-12 Thread Andrew Widdersheim
I haven't been able to get in touch with Silas Sewell (silas) by email or by 
bugzilla. He is the owner of quite a few packages but I'm primarily only 
interested in two. They are redis and python-redis. They are both out of date 
and I'd like to see them get updated in EPEL. Here links to the bugzilla 
tickets:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000697
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=923970

I have never maintained packages in EPEL before but I wouldn't mind learning 
how. Either way I'd like to see these packages get updated. 
 
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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 12 January 2014 21:27, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:

 Am 12.01.2014 20:24, schrieb Ahmad Samir:
 On 12 January 2014 21:06, Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1-12-14 18:18:00 M A Young wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Garry T. Williams wrote:
 On 1-9-14 15:43:50 Ales Kozumplik wrote:
 New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and
 the F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too!

 I see this using 0.4.11.  What am I doing wrong?

 garry@vfr$ sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing update kernel\*
 [sudo] password for garry:
 Resolving dependencies
 -- Starting dependency resolution
 -- Finished dependency resolution
 Dependencies resolved.
 Nothing to do.

 Try
 dnf clean expire-cache
 first. I don't think dnf checks whether its metadata is up to date as
 frequently as yum does.

 Ha!  That was it.

 sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean expire-cache
 sudo dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing upgrade kernel\*

 did the trick.


 'dnf clean all' does what 'clean expire-cache' does, and more. (check
 the man page)

 dnf clean all without dnf --enablerepo=updates-testing clean all does
 exactly *nothing* in case of updates-testing, the same for YUM simply
 because folders of non-enabled repos are not relevant for any operation


Right, I missed that bit.

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where to report bad dracut man page content

2014-01-12 Thread Felix Miata
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=858448 is openSUSE bug. Is 
upstream better for a rough parallel for Fedora, or bugzilla.redhat.com, or 
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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Miroslav Suchy

On 01/12/2014 11:23 PM, Alec Leamas wrote:

Well, IMHO the docs are actually quite clear on that 'all' refers to all
metadata rather than all repositories.

That said, perhaps enough people has been confused by this to make some
kind of improvement motivated.


Let leave yum as is, but let try to redefine this behavior for dnf:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1052020

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rawhide evolution-data-server/libcamel soname version bump

2014-01-12 Thread Milan Crha
Hello,
I'm just updating evolution-data-server to 3.11.4 in rawhide, which
includes a soname version bump for libcamel (it happened before 3.11.3,
but that version didn't reach Fedora rawhide for some reason).
I'll rebuild all affected packages I have commit rights for.
Bye,
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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 07:51:22 +0200
Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:

 Right, I missed that bit.
 


to be certain you can do dnf(yum) --enablerepo=* clean all
if your intention is truly to remove all cache.



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Re: Grub installation. First potential Fedora killer

2014-01-12 Thread Jean François Martinez
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:21:16 -0700
Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:

 
 On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Jean François Martinez jfm...@free.fr wrote:
 
  Installer sees the partitions of other Linuxes.  But when rebooting after 
  installation Fedora was the only choice.
  
  Running grub2-mkconfig fixed it, ie other distribution became available.  
  Sort of.  Problems:
  1)  Fedora was the default and there is no easy way (that is without 
  reading the 150+ pages of Grub documentation to change that)
  2)  If user does not know about grub2-mkconfig he will believe he is 
  trapped in Fedora and will be very, very angry
  3)  Every time he runs the other distribution and updates it he needs to 
  rebooot into Fedora and run grub2-mkconfig 
 
 Right, I didn't mean to indicate that multiboot on linux doesn't completely 
 suck, or that linux distros are friendly to each other rather than behaving 
 in a cannibalistic fashion by default. GRUB2 really isn't meant for mortal 
 users, just for the members of the lunacy asylum, so this really should work 
 better than it does yet here we are.
 

It is refreshing to see I am not alone.  Grub2 has the syndrome of developpers 
becaming infatuated and not hiving a hoot about erfs err, I meant users.  A 
major problem in the Free Software field.  Just take a look at this
sentence in the doc the booter is the most important program in the
computer.  No, it is a means to an end.  


 Is this computer by any chance UEFI firmware based? Or is it BIOS? That 
 matters.
 

BIOS.  GPT partitionning

 On BIOS what's supposed to happen is anaconda calls grub2-mkconfig which in 
 turn uses os-prober to find other OS's and create something sensible in 
 grub.cfg. That doesn't always work for various reasons, in particular on 
 UEFI. What you're probably better off doing, is editing /etc/grub.d/40_custom 
 to add a very basic entry to locate the CentOS grub.conf. Something like this:
 
 menuentry 'CentOS menu'  {
 search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,gpt4 
 --hint-efi=hd0,gpt4 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,gpt4  
 d7bc9d0e-7706-44f9-b1a7-ff24b7c360a7
 legacyconfigfile $prefix/grub.conf
 }
 
 
 Not all hints are needed. Obviously change hd0,gpt4 with the right hint for 
 the hard drive and partition and partition scheme for where CentOS /boot is 
 located. The important one, really, is the UUID at the end, which is the file 
 system UUID for the CentOS boot partition (or rootfs if /boot is a directory 
 on root). The legacyconfigfile command allows GRUB2 to read legacy GRUB 
 configuration files. $prefix you should replace with /boot/grub if /boot is a 
 directory on rootfs or /grub if it's on its own partition.
 
 Now grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and this entry will be added to 
 your Fedora 20 grub.cfg. You'll get an entry that points to the CentOS menu. 
 If you choose it, the CentOS menu list of kernels should appear. If you want 
 to make this a default behavior, you'll need to read about 
 $menuentry_id_option for your CentOS menu entry in the Fedora grub.cfg. By 
 giving it a unique ID, you can then specify it as the default by that same id 
 in /etc/default/grub.
 
 Yes it's like pulling teeth.
 

In fact I was hinting about the need of a boot configurator in Fedora.  If user 
had somethig in the menus named Boot manager then the subject would 
just be minor annoyance.  But now a user who doesn't know about Grub2 
intrincacies just sees he is trapped and there is no way to escape.

 
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Re: dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-12 Thread Frank Murphy
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014 00:43:13 +0100
Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote:

 First of all, this is not, and have never been a question of disabled
 repos. Or should not have. yum clean all refers to cleaning all
 metadata, not all repos. It only operates on one single repo, be it
 implicit (the default link) or an explicit -r option.


man yum
CLEAN OPTIONS
   The following are the ways which you can invoke yum in clean
mode. Note that all files in the  commands  below  means  all
files  in  currently enabled repositories.  If you want to also clean
any (temporarily) disabled repositories you need to use
--enablerepo='*' option.

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Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu

2014-01-12 Thread buildsys


perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu has broken dependencies in the rawhide 
tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
On i386:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
On armhfp:
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: mojomojo

2014-01-12 Thread buildsys


mojomojo has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
On i386:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
On armhfp:
mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires 
perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-01-12 Thread buildsys


perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On i386:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
On armhfp:
perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires 
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2)
Please resolve this as soon as possible.


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File Net-SSLeay-1.57.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-01-12 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Net-SSLeay:

c0f359c7b0816e44a89fadd198c6563c  Net-SSLeay-1.57.tar.gz
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[perl-Net-SSLeay] Update to 1.57

2014-01-12 Thread Paul Howarth
commit bd95528fcef2195b64fe2ab8414f12cf80d7a56e
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date:   Sun Jan 12 15:40:54 2014 +

Update to 1.57

- New upstream release 1.57
  - fixed remaining problems with test suite: pod coverage and kwalitee 
tests
are only enabled with RELEASE_TESTING=1

 perl-Net-SSLeay.spec |   17 -
 sources  |2 +-
 2 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Net-SSLeay.spec b/perl-Net-SSLeay.spec
index a956f93..30fa2e4 100644
--- a/perl-Net-SSLeay.spec
+++ b/perl-Net-SSLeay.spec
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 Name:  perl-Net-SSLeay
-Version:   1.56
+Version:   1.57
 Release:   1%{?dist}
 Summary:   Perl extension for using OpenSSL
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -25,15 +25,9 @@ BuildRequires:   perl(XSLoader)
 BuildRequires: perl(File::Spec)
 BuildRequires: perl(IO::Handle)
 BuildRequires: perl(Test::Exception)
-# Test::Kwalitee = Module::CPANTS::Analyze = Net::HTTP = IO::Socket::SSL = 
Net::SSLeay
-# Net::SSLeay in RHEL-7 cannot BR: Test::Kwalitee from EPEL-7
-%if 0%{!?perl_bootstrap:1}  0%{?rhel}  7
-BuildRequires: perl(Test::Kwalitee)
-%endif
 BuildRequires: perl(Test::More)
 BuildRequires: perl(Test::NoWarnings)
-BuildRequires: perl(Test::Pod)
-BuildRequires: perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
+BuildRequires: perl(Test::Pod) = 1.0
 BuildRequires: perl(Test::Warn)
 BuildRequires: perl(threads)
 Requires:  perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `perl -V:version`; echo $version))
@@ -80,7 +74,7 @@ find %{buildroot} -type f -name '*.bs' -empty -exec rm -f {} 
';'
 rm -f %{buildroot}%{perl_vendorarch}/Net/ptrtstrun.pl
 
 %check
-make test TEST_FILES=$(echo $(find t/ -name '*.t' | grep -Ev 
'02_pod_coverage|/external/|kwalitee'))
+make test
 
 %clean
 rm -rf %{buildroot}
@@ -96,6 +90,11 @@ rm -rf %{buildroot}
 %{_mandir}/man3/Net::SSLeay::Handle.3pm*
 
 %changelog
+* Sun Jan 12 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.57-1
+- Update to 1.57
+  - Fixed remaining problems with test suite: pod coverage and kwalitee tests
+are only enabled with RELEASE_TESTING=1
+
 * Wed Jan  8 2014 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org - 1.56-1
 - Update to 1.56
   - Fixed a typo in documentation of BEAST Attack
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index b1cfccc..ec345a2 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-1a5258167ad0ac6a2b695a6fdc0c6e60  Net-SSLeay-1.56.tar.gz
+c0f359c7b0816e44a89fadd198c6563c  Net-SSLeay-1.57.tar.gz
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[perl-Net-SSLeay] Created tag perl-Net-SSLeay-1.56-1.fc21

2014-01-12 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Net-SSLeay-1.56-1.fc21' was created pointing to:

 85b22ba... Update to 1.56
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[perl-Net-SSLeay] Created tag perl-Net-SSLeay-1.57-1.fc21

2014-01-12 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Net-SSLeay-1.57-1.fc21' was created pointing to:

 bd95528... Update to 1.57
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[perl-Razor-Agent/epel7] (2 commits) ...- Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass_Rebuild

2014-01-12 Thread Robert Scheck
Summary of changes:

  c233d86... Perl 5.18 rebuild (*)
  08dea2e... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Mass (*)

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[Bug 1048430] Missing dep perl(Module::Pluggable)

2014-01-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048430

Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ON_QA   |CLOSED
   Fixed In Version||perl-Email-Abstract-3.002-1
   ||1.fc18
 Resolution|--- |ERRATA
Last Closed||2014-01-12 21:56:00



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perl-Email-Abstract-3.002-11.fc18 has been pushed to the Fedora 18 stable
repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
report.

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[Bug 1048430] Missing dep perl(Module::Pluggable)

2014-01-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048430

Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Fixed In Version|perl-Email-Abstract-3.002-1 |perl-Email-Abstract-3.002-1
   |1.fc18  |1.fc20



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repository.  If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug
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[Bug 1051980] New: Please update to = 1.0.1 in F20

2014-01-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1051980

Bug ID: 1051980
   Summary: Please update to = 1.0.1 in F20
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 20
 Component: perl-XML-Catalog
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: r.landm...@redhat.com
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
CC: jples...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com,
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Description of problem:
Please update XML::Catalog to the latest upstream; I need at least version
1.0.1 as a dependency for the new XML::Treebuilder

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[Bug 1051981] New: Please update to = 1.0.1 in F19

2014-01-12 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1051981

Bug ID: 1051981
   Summary: Please update to = 1.0.1 in F19
   Product: Fedora
   Version: 19
 Component: perl-XML-Catalog
  Assignee: jples...@redhat.com
  Reporter: r.landm...@redhat.com
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CC: jples...@redhat.com, mmasl...@redhat.com,
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Description of problem:
Please update XML::Catalog to the latest upstream; I need at least version
1.0.1 as a dependency for the new XML::Treebuilder

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about mod_wsgi for python3

2014-01-12 Thread FreedomKnight
Hi, I'm new in this mailing list.
I want to use mod_wsgi with python 3.
but someone tell me mod_wsgi in fedora is compiled with python 2 and
suggest me to recompile it.

However, when i recompile it, it show this message

/usr/lib64/apr-1/build/libtool --silent --mode=link gcc -std=gnu99
-Wl,-z,relro,-z,now   -o mod_wsgi.la  -rpath /usr/lib64/httpd/modules
-module -avoid-versionmod_wsgi.lo -L/usr/lib64
-L/usr/lib64/python3.3/config -lpython3.3 -lpthread -ldl -lutil -lm
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpython3.3
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=65536
.
make: *** [mod_wsgi.la] Error 1

My ./configure argument:

./configure --with-python=/usr/bin/python3 --with-apxs=/usr/bin/apxs
--enable-shared

I want to know what arguments fedora used.
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