Re: F37 proposal: Emacs 28 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-08-27 Thread Göran Uddeborg
Jens-Ulrik Petersen skrev:
> Do you want to try adding native compilation your package?

As it turns out, emacs-vm might not be the best package for this
experiment. I could not get VM to work with native compilation.
Instead, I had to turn the native compilation off completely for all
vm*.el files before I could get emacs-vm usable again.

My guess is that it is related to (some of) the warnings issued during
compilation. It will be a significant work to get it up to date with
the pretty dormant upstreams. It is thus not a good candidate as a
guinea pig for bundling native-compiled eln files in add-on packages.
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https://packages.fedoraproject.org Re: Check out the Fedora Packager Dashboard!

2022-08-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi,

Also https://packages.fedoraproject.org/ is new 



On Thu, 2022-08-25 at 10:32 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Hello folks,
> 
> this is just a reminder that there is a Fedora Packager Dashboard
> that you 
> might not know about:
> 
> Go to https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/
> 
> Enter your FAS username, (sit down and relax for a while if coming
> for the 
> first time) and enjoy aggregated information about your Fedora and
> EPEL 
> packages from:
> 
>   - Bugzilla
>   - Bodhi
>   - ABRT
>   - Koschei
>   - src.fedoraproject.org PRs
>   - orphans reports
>   - non-installability reports
>   - Fedora release schedule
>   - Package calendars (currently GNOME and Python, but extensible)
>   - and possibly more in the future
> 
> With various filtering options.
> 
> Also works for FAS groups or custom views of multiple users that can
> be used 
> for triages, e.g.:
> 
> https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/dashboard?users=churchyard,pviktori,cstratak,torsava,lbalhar,thrnciar,ksurma,vstinner
> 
> See the help page for more:
> 
> https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/helpmepls
> 
> -- 
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> -- 
> Phone: +420777974800
> IRC: mhroncok
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Re: GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+

2022-08-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sat, 2022-08-27 at 01:44 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Tomáš Popela wrote:
> > This is an early heads-up about GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+ (the
> > gtk2
> > package was marked as unwanted in ELN with
> > https://github.com/minimization/content-resolver-input/commit/b6d44e496f46bd2444e8e24dd3e9113b326817ac
> > ).
> 
> I suppose it could be carried in EPEL if needed. Or is somebody
> attempting 
> to veto that too?
> 

Finally I got this idea , we should have the *archived packages group*,
that can be excluded from mass rebuild and gcc and python updates etc .
The rest of the idea is instead force the retirement of the package we
move it to the archive group , and by default archive group is not used
, but if any one need a library to run an obsoleted applications he can
.   

As Kevin Kofler (more or less) wrote in "Pcre Deprecation" thread,
maybe we should be prepared to support pcre-1 forever and IMO we also
can extend the concept to other packages, btw GTK2 is one of them .


Checking on rawhide gtk2 still have 385 packages that depend on gtk2
... 



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ansible-collection-community-mysql License Change

2022-08-27 Thread Maxwell G via devel
Hi Fedorians,

The license of ansible-collection-community-mysql has been updated from 
"GPLv3+ and Python" to "GPL-3.0-or-later AND PSF-2.0 AND BSD-2-Clause". 
See 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ansible-collection-community-mysql/c/242bcaa709334c0a5ec0d78d1a2da3daaae532ce?branch=rawhide.

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Re: Check out the Fedora Packager Dashboard!

2022-08-27 Thread Björn Persson
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> I think it
> is important to remember that the page is _supposed_ to be "dense".
> It is intended to pack a lot of information into a small area

It leaves plenty of empty space on my screen. It seems to prioritize
aesthetics over information density.

Björn Persson


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Re: hardened memory allocate port to linux-fedora system for secutiry

2022-08-27 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 8/26/22 12:22, Daniel Micay via devel wrote:
> Also, you hardened_malloc doesn't use a thread cache for security
> reasons. It invalidates many of the security properties. If you compare
> to glibc malloc in the light configuration with tcache disabled in glibc
> malloc it will compare well, and hardened_malloc can scale better when
> given enough arenas. If you want to make the substantial security
> sacrifices required for a traditional thread cache, then I don't think
> hardened_malloc makes sense, which is why it doesn't include the option
> to do thread caching even though it'd be easy to implement. It may one
> day include the option to do thread batched allocation, but it isn't
> feasible to do it for deallocation without losing a ton of the strong
> security properties.

I'm an upstream glibc developer, but I've tried to remove my bias here and 
present
the facts as they are for the existing heap-based allocator that is in use by 
the
distributions today and why it's hard to change.

(1) Pick your own allocator vs. use the default.

We allow any end user to make those choices by interposing the final allocator 
with
an allocator of their choice depending on specific workload criteria. This means
that distributions don't have a strong incentive to change system allocators 
unless
they are making a strategic change in their core values or vision for the 
distribution
(like Graphene OS makes for security).

At the ELF level we make sure that we can interpose a new allocator, and we work
carefully to ensure that newer features at the compiler level can be supported
incrementally (_FORTIFIY_SOURCE=3 and __builtin_dynamic_object_size) by newer
allocators.

In summary: If the "good enough" allocator doesn't meet your requirements, then
you can use one of the alternatives.

(2) Switching the default vs. improving the default.

It is arguably lower TCO for all distributions using glibc to improve glibc's
malloc. Some improvements can't be made, but some buy enough benefit that there
is no strong reason to change allocators.

For example:
- jemalloc/tcmalloc used a fast per-thread cache.
  - glibc implemented fast per-thread caching in 2.26 (2017) (DJ Delorie's work)

- Chromium started using safe-linking pointer hardening.
  - glibc implemented safe-linking pointer hardening for fastbins and tcache 
(2020) (Eyal Itkin's work)

Next steps for glibc's malloc is probably:

- Improve internal fragmentation [1]
- Round-robin arena assignment with uniform arena assignment as a goal.
- Provide a packed arena for sub 16-byte sized allocations to improve 
utilization.
 - We have seen some C++ workloads/frameworks that create trillions of 13-byte 
objects.

(3) Requirements vs. change.

While Facebook/BSD (jemalloc), Google (tcmalloc), Microsoft (mimalloc) have very
good allocators, issues seen with those allocators can be more difficult to
correct because of the impact those changes have on wider workloads beyond
distribution workloads.

For example if Graphene OS, with it's own goals, and Fedora with it's own goals
had a conflict of interest for the direction of the allocator e.g. cost vs.
security, what kind of choice would the hardened_allocator maintainers make?

Upstream glibc has largely been aligned with traditional distribution
requirements for a long time, and continues to be aligned with the notion
of a "general purpose" distribution via the contributors and deep network
of developers in the distributions:
https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/MAINTAINERS#Distribution_Maintainers

---

The combination of (1), (2) and (3) mean that for general purpose
distributions the choice of staying with glibc's malloc means having
an ecosystem of distributions that are using the same allocator and
benefit from wide application testing and development and support
when required.

It would be easier to approach glibc upstream and convince them that the
default allocator in glibc should be replaced with hardened_alloc or
jemalloc or tcmalloc or mimalloc...

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.

[1] 
https://patchwork.sourceware.org/project/glibc/patch/xn4jz19fts@greed.delorie.com/
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Fedora 37 compose report: 20220827.n.0 changes

2022-08-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-37-20220826.n.0
NEW: Fedora-37-20220827.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:2
Dropped images:  5
Added packages:  1
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   4
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  1013.73 KiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   415.51 MiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   205.77 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: Kinoite dvd-ostree ppc64le
Path: Kinoite/ppc64le/iso/Fedora-Kinoite-ostree-ppc64le-37-20220827.n.0.iso
Image: Silverblue dvd-ostree ppc64le
Path: 
Silverblue/ppc64le/iso/Fedora-Silverblue-ostree-ppc64le-37-20220827.n.0.iso

= DROPPED IMAGES =
Image: Scientific vagrant-libvirt x86_64
Path: 
Labs/x86_64/images/Fedora-Scientific-Vagrant-37-20220826.n.0.x86_64.vagrant-libvirt.box
Image: SoaS raw-xz aarch64
Path: Spins/aarch64/images/Fedora-SoaS-37-20220826.n.0.aarch64.raw.xz
Image: Server raw-xz aarch64
Path: Server/aarch64/images/Fedora-Server-37-20220826.n.0.aarch64.raw.xz
Image: Scientific vagrant-virtualbox x86_64
Path: 
Labs/x86_64/images/Fedora-Scientific-Vagrant-37-20220826.n.0.x86_64.vagrant-virtualbox.box
Image: Minimal raw-xz aarch64
Path: Spins/aarch64/images/Fedora-Minimal-37-20220826.n.0.aarch64.raw.xz

= ADDED PACKAGES =
Package: libshumate-1.0.0~alpha.1-6.20220818git7808f24.fc37
Summary: GTK widget to display maps
RPMs:libshumate libshumate-devel libshumate-doc
Size:1013.73 KiB


= DROPPED PACKAGES =

= UPGRADED PACKAGES =
Package:  fedora-obsolete-packages-37-5
Old package:  fedora-obsolete-packages-37-4
Summary:  A package to obsolete retired packages
RPMs: fedora-obsolete-packages
Size: 24.90 KiB
Size change:  1.56 KiB
Changelog:
  * Wed Aug 24 2022 Tom Hrn??iar  - 37-5
  - Update the list of obsoleted Python 3.10 packages, second batch


Package:  firefox-104.0-5.fc37
Old package:  firefox-104.0-3.fc37
Summary:  Mozilla Firefox Web browser
RPMs: firefox firefox-langpacks firefox-wayland firefox-x11
Size: 412.19 MiB
Size change:  205.74 MiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Aug 23 2022 Jan Horak  - 104.0-4
  - Rebuild due to ppc64le fixes

  * Tue Aug 23 2022 Kalev Lember  - 104.0-5
  - Use constrain_build macro to simplify parallel make handling
  - Drop obsolete build conditionals
  - Drop unused patches
  - Use build_ldflags
  - Drop hardened_build option
  - Re-enable s390x builds


Package:  gnome-maps-43~beta-2.fc37
Old package:  gnome-maps-43~alpha-3.fc37
Summary:  Map application for GNOME
RPMs: gnome-maps
Size: 3.16 MiB
Size change:  -5.44 KiB
Changelog:
  * Tue Aug 23 2022 Kalev Lember  - 43~beta-1
  - Update to 43.beta

  * Tue Aug 23 2022 Kalev Lember  - 43~beta-2
  - Add missing dep on libsoup3


Package:  litecli-1.9.0-1.fc37
Old package:  litecli-1.8.0-1.fc37
Summary:  CLI for SQLite databases
RPMs: litecli python3-litecli
Size: 136.94 KiB
Size change:  39.19 KiB
Changelog:
  * Thu Jun 16 2022 Python Maint  - 1.8.0-2
  - Rebuilt for Python 3.11

  * Thu Jul 21 2022 Fedora Release Engineering  - 
1.8.0-3
  - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_37_Mass_Rebuild

  * Fri Aug 19 2022 Fabian Affolter  - 1.9.0-1
  - Update to latest upstream release 1.9.0 (closes #2094169, closes #2098742)



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Re: Heads-up: abseil-cpp 20220623.0 and grpc 1.48.0 coming to Rawhide and F37

2022-08-27 Thread Ben Beasley
This is done now. I have created the Bodhi updates for F38/Rawhide and 
F37/Branched. Thanks for everyone’s help in completing the necessary 
rebuilds!


F38: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-2eed8152f6

F37: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-014e78ee9d

On 8/15/22 01:15, Ben Beasley wrote:


In one week, on 2022-08-21, I plan to update abseil-cpp to 
20220623.0[1] and grpc to 1.48.0[2] in Rawhide and F37. Both updates 
contain .so version bumps; for grpc, both the C and the C++ .so 
versions have changed.


Because I want to merge the side tag for these packages in time for 
the 2022-08-23 F37 beta freeze, I plan to start doing builds in side 
tags a couple of days before the announced 2022-08-21 update date.


I am in the process of verifying compatibility of dependent packages 
using local mock builds on x86_64; COPR is currently broken due to RPM 
signature issues related to F37 branching. In the unlikely event I 
find a regression I cannot trivially fix, I will delay one or both 
updates and will leave the PR’s unmerged.


The following packages will need to be rebuilt into side tags for 
F38/Rawhide and F37.


- bear (abseil-cpp, grpc)

- bloaty (abseil-cpp)

- fastnetmon (abseil-cpp, grpc)

- fcitx5-mozc (abseil-cpp)

- frr (abseil-cpp, grpc)

- ilbc (abseil-cpp)

- libarrow (grpc)

- mozc (abseil-cpp)

- perl-grpc-xs (grpc)

Maintainers of affected packages should have received this email directly.

I will rebuild bear and libarrow as a co-maintainer. Maintainers of 
other affected packages should expect an email when the side tags are 
ready. If you maintain one of the affected packages and you want me to 
handle these rebuilds in the future, you can add me (FAS music) to the 
project with “commit” privileges.


[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/abseil-cpp/pull-request/8

[2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/grpc/pull-request/14

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Re: Check out the Fedora Packager Dashboard!

2022-08-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 06:21:23PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 11:43 AM Artur Frenszek-Iwicki
> >  wrote:
> > > I'll forget the meaning and the numbers will go back to being visual 
> > > clutter. It would be immensely helpful
> > > to have some symbolic icons next to the numbers, which would allow to 
> > > easily guess what each of them means.
> > 
> > Sounds like you need to clear your browser cache or something, because
> > there *are* symbols next to these numbers:
> > https://decathorpe.fedorapeople.org/packager-dashboard.png
> 
> I too can see the icons when I allow fontawesome.com, but few of them
> help with understanding the numbers. The beetle for "bugs" and the
> speech bubble for "comments" are pretty obvious, but I still have to
> point to all the others to find out what they mean, and even then many
> of them seem completely random. How does a lightning bolt symbolize
> updates? What's the connection between a shield and priority? A
> triangle, a circle and a square combine into "overrides"? There are two
> different line chart icons. How does one remember which is which? And a
> seatbelt apparently means "orphans" somehow.

Hi Björn,

I'll reply to your mail, but it's something that I wanted to express
also in reply to some previous replies in this thread…

It's valid to critique individual details of design, but I think it
is important to remember that the page is _supposed_ to be "dense".
It is intended to pack a lot of information into a small area, and it
is also _intended_ to be used by a narrow group people over and over
and over. I think a lot of the critisism that numbers are only shown
with symbolic icons and that abbreviations are used, etc, applies the
first few times one uses the page, and after a while one remembers what
is what. And the page does have tooltips and help with that first few
times. If anything, I expect that _more_ information will be packed
into the page over time.

> I assume that "PRs" stands for "pull requests". The icon for that is
> the word "git". That's better than a random unrelated picture, but if a
> picture is just text, then it should be actual text and not a picture.
> It's also somewhat inaccurate because pull requests aren't a Git thing
> but a concept that some web interfaces layer on top of Git.

Strictly speaking, the concept of pull requests predate the web frontends.
E-mail pull requests were part of the original way people used git…

> Rather than hiding the intelligible words in mouseover boxes, it would
> be better to write them directly on the screen instead of the icons. If
> there is some idea that the icons should be language-independent, then
> the beetle also fails. Software defects are not called insects in all
> languages.
> 
> > > Similarly, at the top of the page, I get a banner that informs me about 
> > > FAS integration and says:  
> > > > After linking the dashboard with your FAS through the settings menu...  
> > > Which is all nice and dandy, but doing a Ctrl+F on the page for 
> > > "settings" gives exactly one match -
> > > that being the text in the banner. So there's no visible link to said 
> > > "settings menu" anywhere.
> > > How do I access it?  
> > 
> > The big "gear" icon (the almost universal symbol for "Settings") in
> > the top panel should be what you're looking for.
> 
> The gear is called "Options", and beside it is an icon called
> "Customize dashboard". "Settings" could refer to either of those. It
> would be nice to have consistent terminology, but hey, we can always
> click on everything and explore.
> 
> The gear icon is also misleading. It alludes to machinery in motion, so
> it suggests a menu of commands to do things, rather than options or
> settings. There is a wrench icon that would be a good symbol for
> settings, but that apparently means Koschei.

Yeah, the split between 'search' and 'Options' is not very clear.
Maybe it'd make sense to change the gear icon to an eye icon, because there
aren't settings there, but mostly switches to turn things on and off in the
view.

Zbyszek
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Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220827.n.0 changes

2022-08-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220826.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220827.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images:  1
Added packages:  40
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   240
Downgraded packages: 1

Size of added packages:  242.90 MiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   3.31 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 624.66 KiB

Size change of upgraded packages:   22.79 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: -13.56 KiB

= ADDED IMAGES =

= DROPPED IMAGES =
Image: Container_Base docker s390x
Path: 
Container/s390x/images/Fedora-Container-Base-Rawhide-20220826.n.0.s390x.tar.xz

= ADDED PACKAGES =
Package: cinfo-0.4.8-1.fc38
Summary: Fast and minimal system information tool
RPMs:cinfo
Size:124.08 KiB

Package: fts-rest-client-3.12.0-1.fc38
Summary: File Transfer Service (FTS) -- Python3 Client and CLI
RPMs:fts-rest-client
Size:94.92 KiB

Package: galera-26.4.11-2.module_f38+15004+97703afd
Summary: Synchronous multi-master wsrep provider (replication engine)
RPMs:galera
Size:4.37 MiB

Package: kseexpr-4.0.4.0-1.fc38
Summary: The embeddable expression engine fork for Krita
RPMs:kseexpr kseexpr-devel
Size:2.02 MiB

Package: mariadb-3:10.8.3-1.module_f38+15004+97703afd
Summary: A very fast and robust SQL database server
RPMs:mariadb mariadb-backup mariadb-common mariadb-connect-engine 
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Re: Check out the Fedora Packager Dashboard!

2022-08-27 Thread Otto Liljalaakso

Miro Hrončok kirjoitti 25.8.2022 klo 11.32:

Hello folks,

this is just a reminder that there is a Fedora Packager Dashboard that 
you might not know about:


Go to https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/


I agree with others, this is a great and very useful service. In attempt 
to make it better known, I just proposed it to be linked from the 
Package Maintainer Docs:


https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/package-maintainer-docs/pull-request/85

If anybody knows more useful services that are not visible those docs, 
please let me know so we can add those, too.

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Re: Confused about what to do about a ticket

2022-08-27 Thread Otto Liljalaakso

Jarek Prokop kirjoitti 26.8.2022 klo 17.50:

Hi,

Usually for Rawhide updates CLOSED RAWHIDE + add NVR into `fixed in 
version`
if only Rawhide fixes that bug (e.g., a new software version), that 
should be enough.


But it seems auto updates can take care of the tickets if you specify 
the bugs via the `Resolves: rhbz#1234` references as noted by Vít.


A webpage… Depends what you plan on doing, I use this if I am unsure in 
the bug status workflow: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/bug_status/


Regarding how updates work in different branches, see Package Update 
Guide [1]. Rawhide is covered in section "Rawhide and early Branched".


[1]: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Update_Guide/

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Re: percona-xtrabackup bundling the kitchen sink in static libs

2022-08-27 Thread Otto Liljalaakso

Sven Lankes kirjoitti 26.8.2022 klo 0.03:



Non-responsive maintainer policy [2]. This package has CVE bugs
open [3],


There was _one_ CVE bug and that was for the old version of xtrabackup
that is not shipped for fedora. I have just closed that bug.

The other CVEs are for EPEL builds - while I am in theory interested in
fixing epel as well I won't touch it until the fedora branch is in a
better state.


Thank you for correcting me, and for updating bug statuses. I apologize 
for not checking on those bugs more closely before writing here.


I had to go back and check how I ended up pasting a link that contains 
EPEL bugs as well. The reason: If you click on package's "Bugs" link at 
Fedora Packages site, you get bugs for Fedora only. If you click "Bug 
Reports" at Fedora Package Sources, you get bug for Fedora *and* EPEL. I 
must have used the latter this time.

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Re: Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-08-27 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 26/08/22 19:00, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 05:30:35PM +, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:
>> ...
>>
>> With the exclusion of *-team, *-sig and *-maint, I think packaging
>> rights should be removed from those users.
> I think these are users who manually removed themselves from the
> packager group, but didn't remove all their acls first. (and legit
> groups/sigs).
Is it possible for users to remove themselves from the packager group?
I've looked into fedora accounts interface, but I didn't found how.
>> Also, as per my comment linked above, I think there should be some check
>> to prevent users removed from packager group to maintain commit rights.
>> No idea where/how to implement that.
> I don't think it happens too often. We could make a script that checks
> it from time to time tho. Might be a good cadidate for a toddler (
> https://pagure.io/toddlers)
I'll try to write one. I suppose we just want to be notified of a list
of users, rather than automatically remove users permissions?
>
> In the mean time I agree we should remove the non team/sig/maint users
> above.
>
Should I file a ticket to releng? Or to fedora-infra?

Mattia

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