Re: Enlightenment for Fedora
On 02.01.2013 08:12, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi Forgot to add Elementary https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891282 [10] Efreet https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890909 [11] On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As of now, I have submitted Enlightenment and all it dependencies for review. evas-generic-loaders has already been approved and built for Rawhide. Rest of them are listed below. Thanks to Edward Mann, Emmanuel Seyman, Michael Scherer, Terje and others who have helped out with this effort. e_dbus https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891170 [1] embryo https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890769 [2] edje https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890771 [3] eio https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891244 [4] emotion https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891268 [5] eeze https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891264 [6] ethumb https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891272 [7] enlightenment https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891295 [8] terminology https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891284 [9] I will probably throw them all into a temporary repo when I find sometime. For now, any reviews are welcome. Thanks! Rahul Rahul, Thanks for getting this submitted to be included into Fedora. And also for getting evas-generic-loaders built. That was on my to-do list just did not have the time. Links: -- [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891170 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890769 [3] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890771 [4] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891244 [5] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891268 [6] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891264 [7] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891272 [8] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891295 [9] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891284 [10] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=891282 [11] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890909 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Where are we going? (Not a rant)
On 07.12.2012 14:08, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/07/2012 06:58 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: I do not care ab out arguing with him, I care to give advice to others (if they care for my advice, feel free to fully ignore). Don't follow that model, it's broken security wise, unless you keep your machine disconnected from the network. In the end if you are going to keep your machine secure et all you have to keep it disconnected there will always be bugs which can be exploited when you are network connected ;) I personally think people should start worrying more about application they install on their mobile devices ( which they more often then not grant access to privacy information themselves ) or information they expose themselves on various social network sites willingly, unaware of the consequences it might have then having their OS cracked. If I was a crook I would simply use various online tracking sites or social networking sites to monitor whether you are home or not and simply rob you when your post on your status that you have gone on holidays next to the picture of your house tagged with the geographical coordinates to it or when an app places you on Starbucks. Or I would collect all those idiotic question people have to provide answer on various online sites including banks cross reference them to you social network pages and your posts, then simply call your bank, provide answer to those questions and wipe your account clean. Much more simpler, probably pays better of in the end and harder to track down compared to cracking your laptop OS or explode a bug which requires you to be a skilled programmer or cryptography engineer to pull it of.. Seriously why bother cracking people OS to get to this information when it gets handed to you on silver platter by the individuals themselves online? JBG There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information! Cosmo Go after the old folks, apparently they are the most recent targets http://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,4534,7-164-18156-205169--,00.html -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Self Introduction
I was just informed that trying to install enlightenment when you have libeio installed won't work. eio that i have and libeio are two different projects. I am not sure how to work around or fix this. If anyone has suggestions i'm all ears. Thanks On Fri, 2012-11-30 at 17:58 -0600, Edward Mann wrote: I have created new Fedora 18 Beta repo. This repo has both x86_64 and i686 in it. You can install via my repo rpm yum install http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/18/enlightenment-repo-0.0.3-1.fc18.noarch.rpm And then try out enlightenment. I tested the x86_64 i just have not had time to do the same with the i686. Let me know if things do not work. yum install enlightenment terminology e_modules-engage I added more depends to the enlightenment spec to hopefully resolve some install issues. After testing i will see if i need to add more. Thanks On , Edward Mann wrote: I have signed the packages and updated my repo. I have also created a rpm to install the repo config and the gpg pub key. yum install http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/x86_64/RPMS/enlightenment-repo-0.0.2-1.fc17.x86_64.rpm I also built a new 17 test machine to test out the install and found that selinux will prevent enlightenment from starting up on the initial startup. I put it in permissive mode and it was able to start. I put it back to enforcing and it worked fine, then restarted with it in default enforcing and i was still able to get into e17. I am building 386 and x86_64 fedora 18 beta machines and will run the builds on those as well. I will update with the new repos. For libeio i ran yum install enlightenment eio and it pulled the package from my repo. I will do some more testing on this with the 18 boxes. Thanks On , Rudolf Kastl wrote: the crash happens because of a collision with libeio which is in the fedora main repository. 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com After yum install enlightenment running enlightenment_start makes it crash: enlightenment_start E - PID=22138, valgrind=0 /usr/bin/enlightenment: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libedje.so.1: undefined symbol: EIO_MONITOR_FILE_CREATED 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com Another comment: while you keep that repository up id really welcome if you could sign the packages in your private repo. 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com Actually the baseurl provided in your paste does not work for me. here is the fixed entry: baseurl=http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/x86_64/RPMS 2012/11/29 Edward Mann e@edmann.com On , Tom Callaway wrote: On 11/27/2012 02:47 PM, Edward Mann wrote: I would like to be the maintainer for the Enlightenment e17 for Fedora. I am sending this e-mail to seek guidance and also a sponsor. Getting e17 on Fedora i will need to build and install the following packages eina - Core data structure library. In Fedora as libeina (I own it) eet - Data encode/decode and storage library. In Fedora as eet (I own it) evas - Canvas and scenegraph rendering library. In Fedora as evas (I own
Re: Self Introduction
I have created new Fedora 18 Beta repo. This repo has both x86_64 and i686 in it. You can install via my repo rpm yum install http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/18/enlightenment-repo-0.0.3-1.fc18.noarch.rpm And then try out enlightenment. I tested the x86_64 i just have not had time to do the same with the i686. Let me know if things do not work. yum install enlightenment terminology e_modules-engage I added more depends to the enlightenment spec to hopefully resolve some install issues. After testing i will see if i need to add more. Thanks On , Edward Mann wrote: I have signed the packages and updated my repo. I have also created a rpm to install the repo config and the gpg pub key. yum install http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/x86_64/RPMS/enlightenment-repo-0.0.2-1.fc17.x86_64.rpm I also built a new 17 test machine to test out the install and found that selinux will prevent enlightenment from starting up on the initial startup. I put it in permissive mode and it was able to start. I put it back to enforcing and it worked fine, then restarted with it in default enforcing and i was still able to get into e17. I am building 386 and x86_64 fedora 18 beta machines and will run the builds on those as well. I will update with the new repos. For libeio i ran yum install enlightenment eio and it pulled the package from my repo. I will do some more testing on this with the 18 boxes. Thanks On , Rudolf Kastl wrote: the crash happens because of a collision with libeio which is in the fedora main repository. 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com After yum install enlightenment running enlightenment_start makes it crash: enlightenment_start E - PID=22138, valgrind=0 /usr/bin/enlightenment: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libedje.so.1: undefined symbol: EIO_MONITOR_FILE_CREATED 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com Another comment: while you keep that repository up id really welcome if you could sign the packages in your private repo. 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com Actually the baseurl provided in your paste does not work for me. here is the fixed entry: baseurl=http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/x86_64/RPMS [6] 2012/11/29 Edward Mann e@edmann.com On , Tom Callaway wrote: On 11/27/2012 02:47 PM, Edward Mann wrote: I would like to be the maintainer for the Enlightenment e17 for Fedora. I am sending this e-mail to seek guidance and also a sponsor. Getting e17 on Fedora i will need to build and install the following packages eina - Core data structure library. In Fedora as libeina (I own it) eet - Data encode/decode and storage library. In Fedora as eet (I own it) ecore - Core mainloop, display abstraction and utility library. In Fedora as eco t: 5px; width: 100%;embryo - Small Pawn based virtual machine . edje - Abstract GUI layout and animation object library. efreet - Standards handling for freedesktop.org [1] standards. e_dbus - Dbus wrapping and glue layer lib eo and audio codec API... ethumb - EThumb, thumbnail generation library... eio - Eio, async I/O library... I don't think any of these are in Fedora, so they'd be a great place to start. Let me know if you need any changes to the four packages I own, once you get in the packager group, I'd be happy to let you comaintain them. ~tom == Fedora Project Thanks for the response Tom. I had searched the packages, however i realized i needed to go one more page in the package list to find those that you own. E17 currently needs all packages to be at the 1.7.2 release. The Enlightenment team plans on keeping them all at the same version number even if some packages have no changes. You probably already know this. I think i remember removing libeina when i installed my build of eina. If we can get libeina up to 1.7.2 then i will adjust the packages to look for libeina and not eina. I have all the packages up on my website http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/ [2] Also i have the yum repo [Enlightenment] name=Enlightenment for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/X86_64/RPMS [3] enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 [Enlightenment - Sources] name=Enlightenment SRPMS for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/SRPMS [4] enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 Right now it's only for x86_64, i will build another vm and do i386 packages. Not sure if that will be needed, but people might come across it and want those. I will also do 18 beta as well. Do i need to make a bug request for each package or is that premature for me to do right now? Thanks -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel [5] Links: -- [1] http://freedesktop.org [2] http://www.edmann.com
Re: Self Introduction
I will get those packages signed. Thanks On , Rudolf Kastl wrote: Another comment: while you keep that repository up id really welcome if you could sign the packages in your private repo. 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com Actually the baseurl provided in your paste does not work for me. here is the fixed entry: baseurl=http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/x86_64/RPMS [6] 2012/11/29 Edward Mann e@edmann.com On , Tom Callaway wrote: On 11/27/2012 02:47 PM, Edward Mann wrote: I would like to be the maintainer for the Enlightenment e17 for Fedora. I am sending this e-mail to seek guidance and also a sponsor. Getting e17 on Fedora i will need to build and install the following packages eina - Core data structure library. In Fedora as libeina (I own it) eet - Data encode/decode and storage library. In Fedora as eet (I own it) ecore - Core mainloop, display abstraction and utility library. In Fedora as e eft: 5px; width: 100%;embryo - Small Pawn based virtual machi er. edje - Abstract GUI layout and animation object library. efreet - Standards handling for freedesktop.org [1] standards. e_dbus - Dbus wrapping and glue motion, video and audio codec API... ethumb - EThumb, thumbnail generation library... eio - Eio, async I/O library... I don't think any of these are in Fedora, so they'd be a great place to start. Let me know if you need any changes to the four packages I own, once you get in the packager group, I'd be happy to let you comaintain them. ~tom == Fedora Project Thanks for the response Tom. I had searched the packages, however i realized i needed to go one more page in the package list to find those that you own. E17 currently needs all packages to be at the 1.7.2 release. The Enlightenment team plans on keeping them all at the same version number even if some packages have no changes. You probably already know this. I think i remember removing libeina when i installed my build of eina. If we can get libeina up to 1.7.2 then i will adjust the packages to look for libeina and not eina. I have all the packages up on my website http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/ [2] Also i have the yum repo [Enlightenment] name=Enlightenment for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/X86_64/RPMS [3] enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 [Enlightenment - Sources] name=Enlightenment SRPMS for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/SRPMS [4] enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 Right now it's only for x86_64, i will build another vm and do i386 packages. Not sure if that will be needed, but people might come across it and want those. I will also do 18 beta as well. Do i need to make a bug request for each package or is that premature for me to do right now? Thanks -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel [5] Links: -- [1] http://freedesktop.org [2] http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/ [3] http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/X86_64/RPMS [4] http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/SRPMS [5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel [6] http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/x86_64/RPMS -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Self Introduction
I have signed the packages and updated my repo. I have also created a rpm to install the repo config and the gpg pub key. yum install http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/x86_64/RPMS/enlightenment-repo-0.0.2-1.fc17.x86_64.rpm I also built a new 17 test machine to test out the install and found that selinux will prevent enlightenment from starting up on the initial startup. I put it in permissive mode and it was able to start. I put it back to enforcing and it worked fine, then restarted with it in default enforcing and i was still able to get into e17. I am building 386 and x86_64 fedora 18 beta machines and will run the builds on those as well. I will update with the new repos. For libeio i ran yum install enlightenment eio and it pulled the package from my repo. I will do some more testing on this with the 18 boxes. Thanks On , Rudolf Kastl wrote: the crash happens because of a collision with libeio which is in the fedora main repository. 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com After yum install enlightenment running enlightenment_start makes it crash: enlightenment_start E - PID=22138, valgrind=0 /usr/bin/enlightenment: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib64/libedje.so.1: undefined symbol: EIO_MONITOR_FILE_CREATED 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com Another comment: while you keep that repository up id really welcome if you could sign the packages in your private repo. 2012/11/29 Rudolf Kastl che...@gmail.com Actually the baseurl provided in your paste does not work for me. here is the fixed entry: baseurl=http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/x86_64/RPMS [6] 2012/11/29 Edward Mann e@edmann.com On , Tom Callaway wrote: On 11/27/2012 02:47 PM, Edward Mann wrote: I would like to be the maintainer for the Enlightenment e17 for Fedora. I am sending this e-mail to seek guidance and also a sponsor. Getting e17 on Fedora i will need to build and install the following packages eina - Core data structure library. In Fedora as libeina (I own it) eet - Data encode/decode and storage library. In Fedora as eet (I own it) ecore - Core mainloop, display abstraction and utility library. In Fedora as e eft: 5px; width: 100%;embryo - Small Pawn based virtual machi er. edje - Abstract GUI layout and animation object library. efreet - Standards handling for freedesktop.org [1] standards. e_dbus - Dbus wrapping and glue motion, video and audio codec API... ethumb - EThumb, thumbnail generation library... eio - Eio, async I/O library... I don't think any of these are in Fedora, so they'd be a great place to start. Let me know if you need any changes to the four packages I own, once you get in the packager group, I'd be happy to let you comaintain them. ~tom == Fedora Project Thanks for the response Tom. I had searched the packages, however i realized i needed to go one more page in the package list to find those that you own. E17 currently needs all packages to be at the 1.7.2 release. The Enlightenment team plans on keeping them all at the same version number even if some packages have no changes. You probably already know this. I think i remember removing libeina when i installed my build of eina. If we can get libeina up to 1.7.2 then i will adjust the packages to look for libeina and not eina. I have all the packages up on my website http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/ [2] Also i have the yum repo [Enlightenment] name=Enlightenment for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/X86_64/RPMS [3] enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 [Enlightenment - Sources] name=Enlightenment SRPMS for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/SRPMS [4] enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 Right now it's only for x86_64, i will build another vm and do i386 packages. Not sure if that will be needed, but people might come across it and want those. I will also do 18 beta as well. Do i need to make a bug request for each package or is that premature for me to do right now? Thanks -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel [5] Links: -- [1] http://freedesktop.org [2] http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/ [3] http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/X86_64/RPMS [4] http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/SRPMS [5] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel [6] http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/x86_64/RPMS -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Self Introduction
On , Tom Callaway wrote: On 11/27/2012 02:47 PM, Edward Mann wrote: I would like to be the maintainer for the Enlightenment e17 for Fedora. I am sending this e-mail to seek guidance and also a sponsor. Getting e17 on Fedora i will need to build and install the following packages eina - Core data structure library. In Fedora as libeina (I own it) eet - Data encode/decode and storage library. In Fedora as eet (I own it) ecore - Core mainloop, display abstraction and utility library. In Fedora as ecore t:5px; width:100%embryo - Small Pawn based virtual machine an dje - Abstract GUI layout and animation object library. efreet - Standards handling for freedesktop.org standards. e_dbus - Dbus wrapping n - Emotion, video and audio codec API... ethumb - EThumb, thumbnail generation library... eio - Eio, async I/O library... I don't think any of these are in Fedora, so they'd be a great place to start. Let me know if you need any changes to the four packages I own, once you get in the packager group, I'd be happy to let you comaintain them. ~tom == Fedora Project Thanks for the response Tom. I had searched the packages, however i realized i needed to go one more page in the package list to find those that you own. E17 currently needs all packages to be at the 1.7.2 release. The Enlightenment team plans on keeping them all at the same version number even if some packages have no changes. You probably already know this. I think i remember removing libeina when i installed my build of eina. If we can get libeina up to 1.7.2 then i will adjust the packages to look for libeina and not eina. I have all the packages up on my website http://www.edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/17/ Also i have the yum repo [Enlightenment] name=Enlightenment for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/X86_64/RPMS enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 [Enlightenment - Sources] name=Enlightenment SRPMS for Fedora $releasever baseurl=http://edmann.com/Enlightenment/repo/Fedora/$releasever/SRPMS enabled=1 metadata_expire=7d gpgcheck=0 Right now it's only for x86_64, i will build another vm and do i386 packages. Not sure if that will be needed, but people might come across it and want those. I will also do 18 beta as well. Do i need to make a bug request for each package or is that premature for me to do right now? Thanks -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Self Introduction
I would like to be the maintainer for the Enlightenment e17 for Fedora. I am sending this e-mail to seek guidance and also a sponsor. Getting e17 on Fedora i will need to build and install the following packages eina - Core data structure library. eet - Data encode/decode and storage library. evas - Canvas and scenegraph rendering library. ecore - Core mainloop, display abstraction and utility library. embryo - Small Pawn based virtual machine and compiler. edje - Abstract GUI layout and animation object library. efreet - Standards handling for freedesktop.org standards. e_dbus - Dbus wrapping and glue layer library. eeze - Device abstraction library. elementary - Elementary, the widget set... emotion - Emotion, video and audio codec API... ethumb - EThumb, thumbnail generation library... eio - Eio, async I/O library... and finally Enlightenment 17 - The Window Manager and Desktop Shell. I also build Terminology a new terminal emulator based on the efl libraries. I currently build these on a local vm and have a repository setup on my website. I tried to use Koji however seeing that the required packages needed to build e17 are not available i cannot build using Koji, or i don't know how to do the builds. I would need to work my list down in the order i have because eet depends on eina. So eina would need to be build first then it's dev packages installed. Then ecore depends on the packages listed above it. On my local machine i wrote a script that would build a package, install rpm and dev rpm then move on to the next package. I am not sure how i would do this with koji. I look forward to feedback on this. Thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Self Introduction
On , Edward Mann wrote: I would like to be the maintainer for the Enlightenment e17 for Fedora. I am sending this e-mail to seek guidance and also a sponsor. Getting e17 on Fedora i will need to build and install the following packages eina - Core data structure library. eet - Data encode/decode and storage library. evas - Canvas and scenegraph rendering library. ecore - Core mainloop, display abstraction and utility library. embryo - Small Pawn based virtual machine and compiler. edje - Abstract GUI layout and animation object library. efreet - Standards handling for freedesktop.org standards. e_dbus - Dbus wrapping and glue layer library. eeze - Device abstraction library. elementary - Elementary, the widget set... emotion - Emotion, video and audio codec API... ethumb - EThumb, thumbnail generation library... eio - Eio, async I/O library... and finally Enlightenment 17 - The Window Manager and Desktop Shell. I also build Terminology a new terminal emulator based on the efl libraries. I currently build these on a local vm and have a repository setup on my website. I tried to use Koji however seeing that the required packages needed to build e17 are not available i cannot build using Koji, or i don't know how to do the builds. I would need to work my list down in the order i have because eet depends on eina. So eina would need to be build first then it's dev packages installed. Then ecore depends on the packages listed above it. On my local machine i wrote a script that would build a package, install rpm and dev rpm then move on to the next package. I am not sure how i would do this with koji. I look forward to feedback on this. Thanks. I should have added something about myself. I am married with 2 kids gave the dog to a friend, wife likes cats. :-D I enjoy scuba diving, not much since the kids, and Christian apologetics. I have been using Fedora since it first came out and was running RedHat Linux before that. I work as a software developer and Unix/Linux administrator. As well as doing VMWare administration. I do small consultant jobs to keep me exposed to using Linux in different settings. Well that should do it. Thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel