Re: Self Introduction: Adam McCartney

2024-03-16 Thread Joe Doss

On 3/16/24 5:03 AM, Adam McCartney wrote:

Dear Fedora Developers,

Thanks for your work in developing and maintaining such a useful Linux
distribution!

I'm relatively new to open source development and am trying to make my 
first

contributions. Basically, I'm hoping to package some dependencies
for the `nix and `guix package managers in fedora.

To give a bit of backstory, in the past both package managers have 
depended on
nscd[1], which has been recently removed from glibc. Since it had been 
marked for
deprecation in glibc, distributions have been removing their reliance on 
it's

functionality [2].

There has been some discussion on the guix mailing list about possible
replacements for nscd. A popular suggestion is to transition to nsncd,
a program written in rust that provides similar functionality. Following 
this
dicussion I volunteered to package nsncd for fedora. I've started the 
process by

packaging some upstream dependencies.

This is my first attempt at contributing packages to fedora (or any 
distro for
that matter!). Fabio Valentini has been very helpful in providing some 
guidance

and reviewing my initial bug report[3].

I'm a little bit unsure of the next steps are for having the package 
accepted.

I would welcome any further advice or guidance that you could provide.

With kind regards,
Adam


Welcome Adam! We are glad you are here. I look forward to seeing your 
contributions to Fedora. :)


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Re: Introduction

2024-02-17 Thread Joe Doss

On 2/17/24 6:38 AM, Loren M. Lang wrote:

Hello all,

I am looking to get more involved in the Fedora Project and contributing back 
into it. I have been using Linux since Red Hat Linux 5.1 was released in 1998. 
Since then, I have been able to provide a variety of contributions back to 
various projects including Debian, Ubuntu, and even FreeBSD. I tend to work 
mostly in either C, Python, or Rust but can work in a variety of languages. 
Over the last few years, Fedora has become one of my main drivers for 
development and I'd like to give back and help maintain some packages in need 
of loving. I am looking forward to joining the community and offering my 
assistance.


Welcome Loren! We are all glad that you are here. :)

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Re: Self Introduction: Tim Semeijn

2023-10-12 Thread Joe Doss

On 10/12/23 4:17 PM, tim--- via devel wrote:

Hey everyone,


My name is Tim Semeijn and I am an infrastructure engineer from The 
Netherlands. I have been in the Fedora ecosystem as a user for many 
years and the last few years I got more and more into building RPMs for 
personal/hobby use. I wanted to directly contribute to the source and 
decided to try become a packager for Fedora.



My first package got approved a few days ago (thanks Steve Cossette) and 
Neal Gompa stepped up to the plate to sponsor me. My focus now will be 
on showing my understanding of RPM packaging by doing unofficial package 
reviews.



Looking forward to being part of this wonderful community!


Welcome Tim! You are in wonderful hands with Neal as your sponsor. I 
can't wait to see your contributions added to the project.


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Re: New contributor interested in taking maintainership of SWORD, Xiphos, and Bibletime

2023-09-29 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/29/23 1:10 PM, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:

Hello, and thanks for your time.

I am a former (and possibly future) Ubuntu and Lubuntu Developer who 
recently started using Fedora on some of my systems. I have about a year 
of experience in Linux distro development from my previous work with 
Lubuntu and Ubuntu. After trying Fedora, I liked it so much I decided I 
wanted to contribute to it, and discovered that the SWORD package had 
become orphaned and retired due to a bug in its Python bindings. As I 
use SWORD and programs it depends on in my day-to-day work, I decided 
I'd like to try to fix SWORD and become its maintainer.


Over the last few days I've worked to get the SWORD package into a 
usable and policy-compliant state, including:


* Fixing the Python-related bug
* Updating the packaging to comply with the current Fedora Packaging 
Guidelines

* Doing a full license audit of the SWORD code
* Clarifying the licensing of various files with upstream
* Asking for one non-free component to be relicensed under a 
Fedora-compatible license (a request which was granted)

* Repacking the upstream tarball to remove optional non-free components

After discussion with the SWORD developers, I found that the original 
maintainer of SWORD in Fedora also maintained Xiphos and Bibletime, two 
applications which depend on SWORD and are closely related to it. For 
this reason, I would like to become the maintainer of all three 
ultimately, though for the moment I'm only actively pursuing 
maintainership of SWORD since it's the only package that needs help at 
the moment.


Depending on how things go, I also am interested in assisting with the 
development of Fedora LXQt Spin, as it is quite similar to Lubuntu, a 
project I worked closely with for about a year.


I hope I can be valuable to the Fedora community! Thanks for your help, 
and have a great day!


Heck yeah Aaron! Welcome to the party! I am glad you are here. :)

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Re: An update on RHEL moving to issues.redhat.com

2023-09-09 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/9/23 1:27 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

On Sat, 2023-09-09 at 04:17 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:

On Sat, Sep 9, 2023 at 1:05 AM Brendan Conoboy  wrote:


RHEL making this change does not imply or require that Fedora do the same.


I am neither suggesting Fedora should do so, or
not do so, but just as a hypothetical, should Fedora
choose to do so, do you know if RedHat would be
amenable for such use of issues.redhat.com for
Fedora bug tracking(*).


I think this would be a non-starter as Jira is not F/OSS. Fedora infra
must be F/OSS by policy.


Obligatory uhh not JIRA comment. (sorry, kinda)

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Re: Election Status?

2023-05-24 Thread Joe Doss

On 5/24/23 4:49 PM, Mattia Verga via devel wrote:

Wait, what?? Someone at RH wakes up in the morning and decides to cut
one of the key roles (or better, THE) of Fedora community and this goes
completely unannounced, unnoticed and without any backup plan?

I have seen other dumb decisions by RH about Fedora in the past, but I
think this is the greatest one, both for Ben's role and for their person.


I totally agree. I am pretty upset that they chose to let bcotton go. 
His work was top notch and I will miss him and his contributions. Losing 
him as the Fedora Program Manager is going to be very impacting to the 
project in the short to medium term. We are already seeing things fall 
through the cracks. What a short-sighted decision.


Also finding out about this in a random thread is a bummer. There should 
have been an announcement.


To the RH powers that be that made this decision. You chuckleheads dun 
goofed.


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Re: Self Introduction: Miguel Bernal Marin

2023-04-10 Thread Joe Doss

On 4/8/23 7:52 PM, Miguel Bernal Marin wrote:

Hi Fedora community,

My name is Miguel Bernal Marin and usually my nickname is miguelinux,
I work at Intel corporation in Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico and I would like
to add some new packages from Intel to Fedora and keep maintaining them.
I will look for a sponsor for those package in a near future.

Regarded my past experience on open source projects, I was in the Clear Linux
team maintaining some packages, and I had contributed to others open source
projects.

My FAS user is miguelinux.


Welcome Miguel. I am glad you have joined us! :)

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Re: Self Introduction: Dalton Hubble

2023-02-23 Thread Joe Doss

On 2/22/23 11:19 PM, Dalton Hubble wrote:

I'm an engineer working in the Go, cloud, and infrastructure space.
I've been a Linux user for a while, a Fedora user for the last ~8
years, and used to work for CoreOS. I maintain a few open source Go
libraries, maintain a Kubernetes distro, and operate the AS207563
network. When I can, I enjoy hiking and tinkering on my infra.


Glad to have you with us Dalton! I am a very big fan of Typhoon and 
Matchbox! :D


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Re: Package naming suggestion?

2023-02-07 Thread Joe Doss

On 2/7/23 8:28 PM, Chris Adams wrote:

I've got a few useful Nagios monitoring plugins I'd like to add to
Fedora/EPEL.  I'm rather unimaginative at naming, so the Github repo for
them is "nagios-plugins-cmadams"... while I wouldn't mind having a
package with my username in it in Fedora, it seems a little vain. :)

Before I go making a package and submitting a new package ticket, any
suggestions about that?

https://github.com/cmadamsgit/nagios-plugins-cmadams



My two cents. I am a big fan of packages that are very explicit on what 
they are in the name. Doing a `dnf search nagios` turns up that most 
plugins start with nagios-plugin- so your current repo name follows that 
established convention.


I'd say leave it as is and get that package submitted. :)

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Re: Self Introduction: Dale Turner

2022-12-27 Thread Joe Doss

On 12/26/22 12:18 PM, Dale Turner via devel wrote:
Hello everyone. My name is Dale Turner, and I am new to the list. I live 
in Nova Scotia, Canada.


I have been using Fedora Linux since 2008 (version 9). At that time, I 
decided Microsoft Windows was not really for me, so I began looking 
elsewhere. I considered several Linux distributions before finally 
choosing Fedora. I like that Fedora is always pushing forward and is 
very up-to-date. I really like that Fedora works so closely with 
upstream, so that when Fedora solves a problem, it benefits everyone, 
not just the Fedora users. The community also seems excellent.


My professional background is healthcare. I have no formal computer 
training, so I am best considered a hobbyist/enthusiast/user. Although 
new to the list, I have viewed the archives many times.


I have been building packages for some time, both locally on my machine 
and COPR (https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dturner/ 
<https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dturner/>).


I have also filed a few bugs over the years.

The main reason for me finally posting to this list is that I noticed 
xaos is now unmaintained. I am not in the Packager group, but I think I 
would be able to maintain this package, or at least assist. It is not 
critical to any system, but is interesting to me, and hopefully would 
not be too daunting a task. I do have a successful build in my COPR.


Thanks for everything, and your consideration.


Welcome Dale. I am glad you joined us! :)

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Re: Self Introduction: Simon Bachenberg

2022-11-11 Thread Joe Doss

On 11/11/22 3:15 AM, Simon Bachenberg wrote:


Ideally, I would like Fedora to become the standard Linux client of the 
Deutsche Welle instead of Ubuntu. But I would also like to help make Fedora 
even better and more popular.


Welcome Simon. I agree with you and I am glad you have joined us. :)

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Re: status update on "ostree native containers"

2022-10-11 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/27/22 5:08 PM, Colin Walters wrote:

But back to Fedora CoreOS, another thing that's happened recently is
https://github.com/coreos/coreos-layering-examples has matured and
has many functional examples of using this.

We're getting increasingly close to the point where I want to call
this all stable, so it's a great time if you haven't to kick the
tires and try it out! 


This looks fantastic Colin. I will definitely be checking this out.

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Re: Self Introduction: Kate Hsuan

2022-06-20 Thread Joe Doss

On 6/21/22 12:42 AM, Kate Hsuan wrote:

Hi Folks,

My name is Kate Hsuan. I'm a software engineer from Red Hat.

Currently, I'm working on integration with fwupd, gnome-shell, and
gnome settings. They can be used to show the firmware security details
and warnings to the user to reduce the risk of the security event.
Before joining Red Hat, I'm working on ONAP DCAE project. ONAP is an
open-source network automation framework for the telecom industry. We
had developed a microservice to collect every message from the message
bus for analysis to find the abnormal events.

Now, I am going to work on package maintenance for libusb, libusb1,
and libusb-compat.

Thank you :)


Welcome Kate!! Glad you are with us. :)


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Re: Possibly off topic: Slack will discontinue packaging for Fedora

2021-11-05 Thread Joe Doss

On 11/5/21 12:41 AM, Benson Muite wrote:
The Mattermost client is open source and will connect to Slack. There 
are a number of packages in copr:

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/fulltext/?fulltext=mattermost


Thanks for the suggestion but I prefer the official client for work.

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Re: Possibly off topic: Slack will discontinue packaging for Fedora

2021-11-04 Thread Joe Doss

On 11/4/21 8:55 PM, Joe Doss wrote:
It would be cool if we could rally some sort of support on our end to 
help Slack produce a functioning RPM.


I hit up some buds that used to work at Slack to see if they can help 
connect us with some folks there to work this out.


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Re: Possibly off topic: Slack will discontinue packaging for Fedora

2021-11-04 Thread Joe Doss

On 11/4/21 7:23 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
I don't know if that's of interest to Fedora, as an organization, but on 
the off-chance that it is: Is anyone in a position to ask someone at 
Slack about that decision?  And whether there's anything that Fedora can 
do to make publishing that package more feasible?


I have had an open support ticket for over 6 months with Slack Support 
about idle detection being totally broken since Fedora 33 on GNOME + 
Wayland with their RPM. Slack stopped detecting when I was idle on my 
workstations and it would never send notifications to mobile devices. 
They responded recently this was working as intended(?) and tried to 
close the ticket which was a real bummer. Fortunately The flatpak works 
just fine.


It would be cool if we could rally some sort of support on our end to 
help Slack produce a functioning RPM.


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Re: F34 Cloud Amazon AMIs unbootable after updates

2021-10-06 Thread Joe Doss

On 10/6/21 3:18 PM, Christopher wrote:

Hi,

Has anybody else noticed that the Amazon Public Cloud images for F34
(https://alt.fedoraproject.org/cloud/) no longer boot after the latest
updates?

I had an instance that I've been keeping up-to-date with dnf system
upgrades and is now on F34, which is now unbootable after recent
updates within the last week. So I tried to create a new instance
using a newer base image at https://alt.fedoraproject.org/cloud/, and
that one is also now unbootable after doing a routine dnf update.

Has anybody else seen this?

Does anybody know which package update caused it? (I saw some
grub-related updates, but not sure if they are to blame)

Does anybody know how to fix a currently broken instance and can share
their solution?


Is there anything on the console log when you reboot it after the 
updates? If you can share the log that would be helpful.


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Re: Donate 1 minute of your time to test upgrades from F34 to F35

2021-09-07 Thread Joe Doss
On 9/7/21 11:14 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Do you want to make Fedora 35 better? Please spend 1 minute of your time
> and try to run:

Heck yeah! Sign me up!

> # Run this only if you use default Fedora modules
> # next time you run any DNF command default modules will be enabled again
> sudo dnf module reset '*'
> 
> sudo dnf --releasever=35 --setopt=module_platform_id=platform:f35 \
> 
> --enablerepo=updates-testing --enablerepo=updates-testing-modular \
> 
> distro-sync
> 
> This command does not replace `dnf system-upgrade`, but it will reveal
> potential problems.
> 
> You may also run `dnf upgrade` before running this command.
> 
> 
> If you get this prompt:
> 
> ...
> Total download size: XXX M
> Is this ok [y/N]:
> 
> you can answer N and nothing happens, no need to test the actual upgrade.

Install  89 Packages
Upgrade3833 Packages
Remove6 Packages
Downgrade22 Packages

Total download size: 4.1 G
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Operation aborted.

LGTM! Ohhh yeah!!

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Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

2021-05-19 Thread Joe Doss

On 5/19/21 4:13 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:

FYI we are using zram in other Fedora editions. zswap is different.


Sorry, got my names mixed up. Thanks Michael!

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Re: Fedora CoreOS stable stream now rebased to Fedora 34

2021-05-19 Thread Joe Doss

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 2:45 AM Clement Verna

 wrote:

I think this is the fundamental difference here, Fedora CoreOS does
not have a version number. It has 3 streams, stable, testing and
next, these streams are based on a version of Fedora Linux but that
should just be a detail that most end users should not have to care
about.


I disagree here. Fedora CoreOS has the Fedora name in it and it should 
have the same fundamental features and changes that ship with each 
Fedora release. To say it doesn't have a base version and that users 
shouldn't care about it is pretty dismissive.



Another difference is that Fedora CoreOS has automatic updates and
if we want our users to trust these automatic updates we need them
to be rock solid. This leads to Fedora CoreOS being more
conservative on how changes are rolled out to users, taking the
example rolling out cgroups v2 in the Fedora 31 time frame would
have broken all users that are using Docker to run their containers
and this was not acceptable :-).

If some users are getting confused and get curious about why there
are these differences and learn more about how Fedora CoreOS works,
that's a good thing IMO :-)


Confusing and frustrating your users is a bad thing.

On 5/19/21 6:54 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
No. This is a cop-out and a bad answer. The reason this happened is 
because Fedora CoreOS historically has not participated in the 
development of Fedora Linux, including the Changes process, and 
generally rolled back features instead of adapting with them during 
the development cycle.


It's not like making changes and breaking upgrades is acceptable in 
Fedora Linux either. It's just that the Fedora CoreOS WG has not 
participated in the main development process and rolled back changes 
instead of adapting to them, which has frustrated pretty much 
everyone. The containers team in particular was extremely unhappy to 
find out cgroup v1 was still used in FCOS. I was pretty cheesed off 
when I discovered the sqlite rpmdb feature was rolled back in FCOS.


In general, I'm not pleased with how Fedora CoreOS does this. 
Hopefully they will do better in the future.


I'll echo Neal's sentiment here. This is a cop-out and bad answer.

It is frustrating to consume FCOS only to see features that are in the 
current release of Fedora are rolled back. Even in today's FCOS WG 
meeting I brought up adding in zswap to FCOS and it is shelved until 
Kubernetes adds for support swap enabled systems.


The RHCOS and Openshift teams should be back porting these breaking 
changes, so FCOS can look to the future with Fedora. FCOS should not be 
shackled by limits imposed by RHCOS/Openshift/Kubernetes.


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Mock fedora-34-x86_64 on Fedora 34 beta broken

2021-04-14 Thread Joe Doss

Hey devel,

Is anyone else getting this issue on Fedora 34 beta when using mock with 
the fedora-34-x86_64 chroot? mock -r fedora-33-x86_64 shell works just 
fine on Fedora 34 beta. Also mock -r fedora-34-x86_64 shell works on 
Fedora 33.


What is the best way to troubleshoot this? I already nuked all the 
containers and repulled them.


mock -r fedora-34-x86_64 shell
INFO: mock.py version 2.9 starting (python version = 3.9.4, NVR =
mock-2.9-2.fc34)...
Start(bootstrap): init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
Finish(bootstrap): init plugins
Start: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
Finish: init plugins
INFO: Signal handler active
Start: run
Start(bootstrap): chroot init
INFO: calling preinit hooks
INFO: enabled root cache
INFO: enabled package manager cache
Start(bootstrap): cleaning package manager metadata
Finish(bootstrap): cleaning package manager metadata
INFO: enabled HW Info plugin
INFO: Using bootstrap image: registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:34
INFO: Pulling image: registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:34
Trying to pull registry.fedoraproject.org/fedora:34...
Getting image source signatures
Copying blob
sha256:999e4fc5d528c12d604e932457da70575edba2e190e4b49889e6c0329ebf
Copying config
sha256:e9a62e90440de88a10995fec385993016911aa3410abee8d50035e84e430bb40
Writing manifest to image destination
Storing signatures
e9a62e90440de88a10995fec385993016911aa3410abee8d50035e84e430bb40
Error: no container with name or ID "time=\"2021-04-14T10:40:24-05:00\"
level=warning msg=\"The input device is not a TTY. The --tty and
--interactive flags might not work
properly\"\n0810c4332dc722feede422372be9a57b397003cb75309bfde00a04340ee5b953"
found: no such container
ERROR: Command failed:
 # podman exec time="2021-04-14T10:40:24-05:00" level=warning msg="The
input device is not a TTY. The --tty and --interactive flags might not
work properly"
0810c4332dc722feede422372be9a57b397003cb75309bfde00a04340ee5b953
/usr/bin/dnf -y install dnf dnf-plugins-core


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Re: Package Review: github-cli 1.1.0

2020-10-29 Thread Joe Doss

On 10/27/20 10:47 AM, Joe Doss wrote:

On 10/27/20 10:11 AM, Joe Doss wrote:

On 10/16/20 11:21 AM, Joe Doss wrote:

Hello all,

Here is the updated package review request for github-cli 1.1.0


...


golang-github-cli-shurcool-graphql
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888971

golang-github-shurcool-githubv4
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888972


Still looking for two last package reviews so I can move forward on 
including the GitHub CLI package in Fedora.


These need reviews too:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888966
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888966
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888968


Can someone reapprove these packages since they hit the arbitrary 60 day 
age limit and I can't reapprove them myself.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803309
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803312
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803303

This paper pushing process sucks for new packages sucks and it's super 
frustrating to navigate.


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Re: Package Review: github-cli 1.1.0

2020-10-27 Thread Joe Doss

On 10/27/20 10:11 AM, Joe Doss wrote:

On 10/16/20 11:21 AM, Joe Doss wrote:

Hello all,

Here is the updated package review request for github-cli 1.1.0


...


golang-github-cli-shurcool-graphql
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888971

golang-github-shurcool-githubv4
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888972


Still looking for two last package reviews so I can move forward on 
including the GitHub CLI package in Fedora.


These need reviews too:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888966
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888966
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888968


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Re: Package Review: github-cli 1.1.0

2020-10-27 Thread Joe Doss

On 10/16/20 11:21 AM, Joe Doss wrote:

Hello all,

Here is the updated package review request for github-cli 1.1.0


...


golang-github-cli-shurcool-graphql
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888971

golang-github-shurcool-githubv4
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888972


Still looking for two last package reviews so I can move forward on 
including the GitHub CLI package in Fedora.


Thanks!
Joe



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Package Review: github-cli 1.1.0

2020-10-16 Thread Joe Doss

Hello all,

Here is the updated package review request for github-cli 1.1.0 and the 
eleven dependency... Ooof.


github-cli
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803302#c8

golang-github-netflix-expect
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803309

golang-github-hinshun-vt10x
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803312

golang-github-alecaivazis-survey
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803303

golang-github-muesli-reflow
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888965

golang-github-muesli-termenv
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888966

golang-github-charmbracelet-glamour
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888967

golang-github-henvic-httpretty
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888968

golang-github-rivo-uniseg
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888970

golang-github-cli-shurcool-graphql
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888971

golang-github-shurcool-githubv4
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888972

golang-github-enescakir-emoji
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1888974

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Re: our containers with alias vim=vi

2020-10-12 Thread Joe Doss

On 10/12/20 1:50 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:

This would break using Vim when vim-minimal and vim-enhanced are
installed (it would start Vi instead of typed Vim). To make it work,
vim-minimal would have to conflict with vim-enhanced, which doesn't make
sense - Vi and Vim binaries can exist together just fine.


I have vim-enhanced and vim-minimal installed

# rpm -qa |grep vim
vim-common-8.2.1770-1.fc33.x86_64
vim-filesystem-8.2.1770-1.fc33.noarch
vim-minimal-8.2.1770-1.fc33.x86_64
vim-enhanced-8.2.1770-1.fc33.x86_64

and when I type vi it launches vim.

# whereis vi
vi: /usr/bin/vi /usr/share/man/man1p/vi.1p.gz /usr/share/man/man1/vi.1.gz
# /usr/bin/vi --version
VIM - Vi IMproved 8.2 (2019 Dec 12, compiled Sep 29 2020 00:00:00)

It doesn't look like these are existing together just fine. It seems 
that vim takes over vi. Shouldn't these conflict and only one can be 
installed over the other?



In the end I find it incorrect to mislead users by default by telling
them 'Vim works' but Vi is run instead - Vi and Vim don't have the same
set of features, which may lead into bug reports caused by this mistake.


Isn't that the reverse behavior detailed above? I type vi on Fedora 
Workstation it launches vim? I assume this isn't causing bug reports.


Joe


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Re: our containers with alias vim=vi

2020-10-10 Thread Joe Doss

On 10/10/20 7:37 AM, clime wrote:

Didn't want to write about this first but maybe there are more people
with the same problem.


You are not alone. I had to set the same alias for Fedora CoreOS because 
I kept typing vim out of habit and FCOS ships vim-minimal. It was 
driving me nuts.


Maybe the vim-minimal package needs the alias instead? I have been 
adding the alias on my end because it felt like a personal problem on my 
end, but I am sure there are more of us.


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GitHub CLI was Re: Orphaning 'hub' (the git wrapper for Github)

2020-10-01 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/29/20 12:07 PM, Joe Doss wrote:

On 9/29/20 10:44 AM, Rich Megginson wrote:

Is there a plan to package `gh` in Fedora?


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803302

I am slogging through it slowly.


OK, I have things built for Rawhide and F33. You can check it out here 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jdoss/github-cli/builds/ if you 
want to give it a spin. I will file the BZ new package paperwork to get 
the 11 new RPMs reviewed once I emotionally recover from this Golang RPM 
packaging adventure in the next day or so.


Oh, and if we want it in F32 sooner rather than later this needs some 
Karma: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2020-c199daf5b3


A special shout out to Robert-André Mauchin for helping me off list with 
all of my go2rpm / Golang RPM questions.


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Re: splitting out systemd-networkd, systemd-standalone-{sysusers,tmpfiles} subpackages in F33+

2020-09-30 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/30/20 7:14 PM, Colin Walters wrote:

That's not true, you can `rpm-ostree override remove`.  It'd still be
there in the ostree repository on disk, but you don't see it in the
"deployment" (what you actually boot into).  Few people care about
disk space that much, and if you do you can do custom builds.


...but can we can do that and will updates to FCOS work after? I am 
pretty sure currently the answer is no, unless I don't fully understand 
the impacts of https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/400


I would be making tons of package changes to my deployment of FCOS but 
the chance of breaking updates isn't worth it. Even after this split 
happens and you can install systemd-networkd will I break my updates 
then too?



About half the people on this thread are living the experience
ofhttps://xkcd.com/386/


Ehh. There has been a lot of talking past each other in this thread and 
in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/574 which is the 
reason for this thread in the first place. All of this grief and extra 
work could have be avoided if we added added the ~1M of hacked out 
systemd-networkd binaries back into FCOS and moved on with our lives... 
but here we are!


Joe

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Re: splitting out systemd-networkd, systemd-standalone-{sysusers,tmpfiles} subpackages in F33+

2020-09-30 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/30/20 4:36 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 5:27 PM Matthew Miller  wrote:

"All Fedora variants, both with ostree and without..." maybe? OSTree-based
variants are also "regular Fedora".



I would only even remotely consider agreeing with that premise for
Silverblue. Neither Fedora CoreOS nor Fedora IoT qualify for that, in
my view, since they completely sidestep the normal release engineering
process, don't use the same repositories, and have the power to
include and exclude packages from the total available package set at
their leisure.

There is no expectation with those variants that anything you do will
necessarily show up there. Heck, Fedora CoreOS is reverting a
system-wide change in its variant (SQLite rpmdb), and had previously
also reverted another one (cgroup v2). The merits of those changes
aside, this makes the experience materially different than everything
else we have.


This is a pretty good point Neal. Let's take cgroups v2 for example. The 
expectation of Fedora 32 having cgroups v2 is pretty clear, but stable 
FCOS which is based off of Fedora 32 has cgroups v1 enabled instead. 
This is a pretty jarring experience when you are moving from say Fedora 
32 Cloud to FCOS 32.20200907.3.0. Both say Fedora 32 in their versions, 
but have a totally different technical experience when it comes to 
cgroups. Same can be said with systemd-networkd, but I won't rehash what 
is already said in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/574


FCOS and Fedora IOT carry the Fedora name but they break ranks with the 
rest of Fedora in terms of packages, release engineering, and Fedora 
wide changes. This leads to frustrating experiences as a Fedora user 
because the technical expectations of what should be Fedora wide 
technical stances are a moving target for these variants.


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Re: Orphaning 'hub' (the git wrapper for Github)

2020-09-29 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/29/20 10:44 AM, Rich Megginson wrote:

Is there a plan to package `gh` in Fedora?


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803302

I am slogging through it slowly.

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Re: wireguard kmod package

2020-06-25 Thread Joe Doss



On June 25, 2020 4:50:12 PM Justin Forbes  wrote:


On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 6:33 AM Leigh Scott  wrote:



From what I understood of the thread it's purely removing the akmod
and the new kernels have the module so how does it break their VPNs?


If you remove akmod-wireguard it will also remove the wireguard package 
which will cause the VPN to stop functioning.

Wireguard/wireguard-tools is required for a working VPN.


That would be a rather serious flaw in the wireguard tools package to
have a dep on akmod-wireguard when it has been upstream and included
in the Fedora kernel-modules package for a few months at this point.


wirerguard-tools has no dep on akmod-wireguard? Unless I'm misunderstanding 
the point you are trying to make here?


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Re: wireguard kmod package

2020-06-24 Thread Joe Doss

On 6/24/20 5:36 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:

As rpmfusion isn't an official Fedora repository the kernel wouldn't
obsolete it, how would that work for the 100s of quasi fedora repos
that spring up all over the place?

Maybe rpmfusion should have something akin to fedora-obsolete-package
for components such as kernel-modules that are cleanly replaced by
something like kernel bits that are there by default.

Maybe the wireguard-tools package might want to obsolete it.


This package isn't an official install method for WireGuard. My copr and 
elrepo for EL are. Obsoleting it isn't something that should be done in 
wireguard-tools IMO.


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Re: wireguard kmod package

2020-06-24 Thread Joe Doss

On 6/24/20 4:28 PM, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:

It was akmod-wireguard (thanks Laura, Alexander, Joe, Leigh and Ian).

This leaves the question: Shouldn't kernel>5.6.0 obsolete kmod-wireguard 
and akmod-wireguard? and maybe replace wireguard with wireguard-tools?


Looking at this RPM's change log it looks like they are doing that:

* Tue Apr 14 2020 Nicolas Chauvet  - 0.0.20191219-3
  - Disable wireguard until obsoleted

https://pkgs.rpmfusion.org/cgit/free/wireguard-kmod.git/commit/?h=f31=2c0a54bad7eed78c459a5f41ff1f4d71070e626c

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Re: wireguard kmod package

2020-06-24 Thread Joe Doss

On 6/24/20 4:02 PM, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:

repo id repo name
code Visual Studio Code  (blush)
fedora Fedora 31 - x86_64
fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 31 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64
fedora-modular Fedora Modular 31 - x86_64
rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 31 - Free
rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 31 - Free - Updates
rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 31 - Nonfree
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 31 - Nonfree - Updates
updates Fedora 31 - x86_64 - Updates
updates-modular Fedora Modular 31 - x86_64 - Updates


This is most likely coming from the rpmfusion-free repo and it should be 
safe to remove if you are running a kernel higher than 5.6.0.


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Re: [External] Re: Fedora+Lenovo

2020-04-30 Thread Joe Doss
On 4/30/20 10:10 PM, Mark Pearson wrote:
> As a note - if you do have the 00bd device: firmware is on LVFS but it's in
> testing state (should be released really soon). If you do enable 
> lvfs-testing
> and do an update to get it installed then fingerprints should work with F32
> (they did for my X1C7 and P1G2)

Yes!!! This works on my T490s!

fwupdmgr enable-remote lvfs-testing
fwupdmgr refresh
fwupdmgr update
fwupdmgr disable-remote lvfs-testing

Then go Settings > Users and enable fingerprint login. No more fumbling
my login password while running late for standup without coffee! Yes! YES!!

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Re: Packaging of github cli?

2020-02-17 Thread Joe Doss
On 2/17/20 10:40 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> I might when I have some time but it looks like a lot of dependent
> package reviews! :)

I think we are good on reviews now. It did have a lot of dependencies. Ooof!

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Re: Packaging of github cli?

2020-02-15 Thread Joe Doss
On 2/15/20 5:10 AM, Till Hofmann wrote:
> Would you mind submitting builds for F30? Some people (me) are still on
> F30...

Sure! It wasn't building on F30 for some reason but I am looking at some
other Golang packages that are not building on F30 too so I will look
into it.

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Re: Packaging of github cli?

2020-02-14 Thread Joe Doss
On 2/14/20 12:36 PM, Joe Doss wrote:
> I will see what it takes to get this submitted for review this weekend.

Here we go https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1803302

If anyone has any some time to give these package a review that would be
great.

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Re: Packaging of github cli?

2020-02-14 Thread Joe Doss
On 2/14/20 10:23 AM, Joe Doss wrote:
> On 2/14/20 9:56 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>> Anyone working on packaging github's CLI?
>>
>> https://github.com/cli/cli 
>>
>> I've never packaged a GO application before...
> 
> I have a spec I am working on right now. I will try to get it up on my
> Copr this weekend.

Well that was easier than I thought.

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jdoss/github

$ dnf copr enable jdoss/github
$ dnf install github-cli

I will see what it takes to get this submitted for review this weekend.

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Re: Packaging of github cli?

2020-02-14 Thread Joe Doss
On 2/14/20 9:56 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> Anyone working on packaging github's CLI?
> 
> https://github.com/cli/cli 
> 
> I've never packaged a GO application before...

I have a spec I am working on right now. I will try to get it up on my
Copr this weekend.

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Re: What would it take to drop release and changelog from our spec files? (and do we want to?)

2020-01-13 Thread Joe Doss
On 1/12/20 3:19 PM, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Am 10.01.20 um 17:36 schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon:
>> Good Morning Everyone,
>>
>> This is not a new idea, it has been presented at flock last year and
spoken
>> about on this very list this fall, so I'd like to push it a little
further.
>>
>> Do we want to drop release and changelog from our spec file?
> Vote: no.
>
> The correct releases and changelogs in the rpms are important to check
> for security patches made. This need of any admin will override
> any argument for a removal, as it's the most important source on a
> working system to gather it's security state.

Finally the reply I was looking for! As someone who relies the changelog
of the RPM for security reasons this whole thread has me worried.

On 1/12/20 3:38 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> It would stay in the RPM, we would just populate it differently and it
> would no longer be hardcoded in the spec file in our infrastructure.

How will it be populated? Will it ensure that the information that is
important for security minding end users is still available? Sorry in
advance if I missed the details of how it would still be managed and
included for end users to consume?

Thanks!
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Re: Let's talk about Fedora in the '20s!

2020-01-07 Thread Joe Doss
On 1/7/20 11:33 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> If anyone has a handy generous multi-millionaire up their sleeve,
> please call Matt. :)

*coughs* Red Hat...

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Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-01 Thread Joe Doss

On 9/26/19 11:57 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote:

I would like to hear if you see Pagure as still strategic, and if so,
how we can make these common user operations faster.


I always wondered why Fedora home rolled their own Github/Gitlab clone. 
Using either Github or Gitlab would be better for new users to get 
started with helping to contribute back to Fedora without having to jump 
through hoops to figure out how to work around the pitfalls of Pagure.


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Re: Orphaning cloud-init, python-boto

2019-08-13 Thread Joe Doss

On 8/13/19 8:54 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:



On 8/10/19 9:06 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:

Hi,

My time to work on Fedora cloud-related things has diminished in
recent months, so I have not been able to give the cloud-init and
python-boto packages the care they deserve.  They are free to a good
home.



Can you give cloud-init to me and major hayden (@mhayden) for now?

Dusty


I can help in a pinch on these packages as well to back up Dusty and Major.

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Re: Fixing Wireguard spec file

2019-02-04 Thread Joe Doss

On 2/4/19 6:38 PM, Dominique Martinet wrote:

It's the second time I read wireguard would be coming in the 5.0 kernel
here - what makes you folk say that?
I certainly haven't seen anything to that extent lately and 5.0 is petty
well under way, something as big a zinc likely won't make the cut this
late.


The people that are working on WireGuard think things should be stable 
by this summer (June) so it most likely won't make 5.0 but something a 
bit after. My point is, I rather spend my efforts stabilizing the DKMS 
packages that have worked for years now, rather than change things 
totally over to using an akmod based approach. Especially with the 
possibility of having WireGuard upstream sometime this year.



(as for akmods, it's packaged as such as well in rpmfusion, and that
just works afaict)


Indeed. If those fit peoples needs, I urge them to use them.

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Re: Fixing Wireguard spec file

2019-02-04 Thread Joe Doss
Was dkms working before you did the upgrade or was it already in a broken 
state? wireguard-dkms-0.0.20190123-2.fc29.noarch won't fix an already broken 
install, so you need to remove it and then install the new version. It should 
hopefully fix it moving forward.

I started a thread on the WireGuard mailing list to track this issue 
https://lists.zx2c4.com/pipermail/wireguard/2019-February/003851.html so please 
reply there with any feedback once the next snapshot is released. 

Thanks,
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Re: Fixing Wireguard spec file

2019-02-04 Thread Joe Doss
I know what akmods are and I don't have the bandwidth on my end to switch to 
them with WireGuard coming in the 5.0 kernel. 

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Re: Fixing Wireguard spec file

2019-01-30 Thread Joe Doss
Hey Germano,

I have a working RPM that does not error out with Error! Could not locate 
dkms.conf file if you want to test it out before I push it to copr. 

https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/jdoss/wireguard-testing/fedora-29-x86_64/00852015-wireguard-dkms/wireguard-dkms-0.0.20190123-2.fc29.noarch.rpm

It is an issue with DKMS as I suspected. `%post` runs before the new package's 
`%preun` and the --rpm_safe_upgrade isn't working as it should. 
https://github.com/dell/dkms/issues/25#issuecomment-360275619. I followed this 
post's suggestion and moved from %post to %posttrans and this issue no longer 
happens. It feels hacky and I might spend some more time this weekend trying to 
find a better solution. ZFS worked around it with a bunch of bash 
https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/blob/master/rpm/generic/zfs-dkms.spec.in#L74-L102
  so that might be what we try down the road. 

If anyone on the list has a better idea on how to work around this issue please 
let me know. 
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Re: Fixing Wireguard spec file

2019-01-30 Thread Joe Doss
I am actively trying to track down why DKMS is not removing the old WireGuard 
version correctly. I suspect it is something to do with DKMS as other WireGuard 
users that use DKMS for things like ZFS 
(https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/MyKernelUpdateSteps) are 
setting the same kinds of issues.

If anyone on this list has any insight on what might be the cause, please let 
me know.

Joe
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