Re: exclude people from giving karma?
Hi, Maybe they didn't have any issues? 2014-02-23 18:12 GMT+01:00 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-2922/libreoffice-4.2.1.1-1.fc20?_csrf_token=a6a024f6e2d35ad3fb8666c1244e215a6aa2 how can people pretend installation went smoothly, no issue detected during basic document manipulation for packages which are not installable at all due dependencie problems? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: ecryptfs alternatives
2013/12/18 Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:33:34PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: The beauty of ecryptfs is that I can encrypt one dir - not whole file system. What's the concern with encrypting the whole filesystem? It's better for you because you leave significant personal information all over the disk, eg in log files in /var/log, in /etc files. Performance- wise it's not IMHO noticeable. I use ecryptfs for Dropbox synchronization. I let it synchronize the encrypted folder and decrypt it on my clients. Very useful. A simple and convenient way how to synchronize private data. There is another use case: Michal wants to store backups of his backups on his fiancee hdd. Ewelina uses her hdd in her work place so there is a possibility that someone can steal the data. Michal can encrypt his data without encrypting the whole hdd so Ewelina can use it to her normal work. Of course this can be done with gpg2, but ecryptfs is a lot easier to use. It's OT here, but what are the reasons why RH drops support for ecryptfs? Ecryptfs seems to be more user friendly for encrypting data on btrfs than using dm-crypt on each drive. For example - you have a btrfs that uses 3 different hdd's - AFAIU you need to enter password for each hdd before mounting filesystem. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: EPEL for RHEL7 Beta
2013/12/13 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net sorry for half off-topic but are there any plans to have EPEL pakcages for RHEL7 public-beta or even still available and i am too stupid to find them? the base repo is missing a lot of things like * htop * lynis * rkhunter * phpMyAdmin * php-pecl-mailparse * php-pecl-geoip * php-pecl-imagick * php-pecl-zendopcache * php-pecl-uploadprogress phpPgAdmin mongo nginx varnish :) thanks! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!
Hi, Is there any netinstall image for this RC1? 2013/12/12 Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org NOTE: The 32-bit Install DVD is over its size limit. As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:15 . Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL. Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Base: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test Desktop: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation [2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7]. Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC) https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808 Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current [1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Base_validation_testing [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Desktop_validation_testing [5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria [6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa [7] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test ___ test-announce mailing list test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: ecryptfs alternatives
Hi, 2013/12/12 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 15:17:33 +, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:33:34PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: The beauty of ecryptfs is that I can encrypt one dir - not whole file system. What's the concern with encrypting the whole filesystem? It's better for you because you leave significant personal information all over the disk, eg in log files in /var/log, in /etc files. I'm aware of this, but I'm not so paranoid :) Performance- wise it's not IMHO noticeable. On a multi-user system one might be worried about some threats from other users that might be mitigated by encrypting directories. That was the use case when I started to use ecryptfs 4.5 years ago. Currently I can use full disc encryption for my data. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
ecryptfs alternatives
Hi, I have read in RHEL 7 beta release notes that ecryptfs will be deprecated in this release. The problem is that I've got a system on Fedora19 (which I want to move to EL7 after release) with some encrypted data. I'm looking for realiable alternative to ecryptfs that will work on EL7 out of box or will be relatively easy to build (without rebuilding kernel modules every update). Can you recommend any solutions? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: ecryptfs alternatives
Hi, 2013/12/11 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com 2013/12/11 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, I have read in RHEL 7 beta release notes that ecryptfs will be deprecated in this release. The problem is that I've got a system on Fedora19 (which I want to move to EL7 after release) with some encrypted data. I'm looking for realiable alternative to ecryptfs that will work on EL7 out of box or will be relatively easy to build (without rebuilding kernel modules every update). Can you recommend any solutions? dm-crypt. Also compatible with TrueCrypt (via external userspace utility - tc-play). The beauty of ecryptfs is that I can encrypt one dir - not whole file system. -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
Hi, Renaming packages it is not user friendly thing because of few reasons: - there's some documentation/blog posts etc that use these names - this will break installation scripts - poeple who use these packages are familiar with these names What if your country also ban proxies word? 2013/11/1 مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates: libproxy - sssd-proxy . Can to rename to : libproxies - sssd-proxies Or something else. Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
PostgreSQL 9.3 in Fedora 20?
Hi, I know that currently Fedora 20 is in feature freeze state. But Alpha version is still not released and PosgreSQL developers released new latest and greates version http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/release-9-3.html with cool features. Are there chances to get this version for F20? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 in Fedora 20?
Hi, 2013/9/9 Pavel Raiskup prais...@redhat.com I know that currently Fedora 20 is in feature freeze state. But Alpha version is still not released and PosgreSQL developers released new latest and greates version http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/release-9-3.html with cool features. Are there chances to get this version for F20? Personaly, I would update the version in fc20 also, if there were done proper testing through bodhi.. Could anybody help with testing? Yes, of course I can help with testing. So if there were no complaints, I would try to prepare the update tomorrow probably. Pavel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Fedora 19 - Feature PHP 5.5 done !
Hi, Thank you very much! It's a great feature :) 2013/6/20 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Php55 I just create the update to PHP 5.5.0 final. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/php-5.5.0-1.fc19 Very very short before F19 release ! Remi. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Does -devel package name only indicate C development packages?
Hi, 2013/5/18 Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 06:18:41AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962081 I have a request to change the name of selinux-policy-devel to selinux-policy-devel-support, since everywhere else in the distro -devel means just header files in c and not any other development tools and we have several scripts that assume that's the case. That's some strange interpretation. I completly don't agree with that. selinux-policy-devel contains interface files and tools required to build selinux-policy. It also currently contains the man pages, which I can move to the base package. That seems like a perfect description for what -devel is. For normal usage selinux-policy is required. For building and modification – -devel package. Seems completely intuitive for me. Agree. I wonder if -devel means just header files in c applies to c++ headers as well? About assumptions: does ‘rpmlint selinux-policy.spec‘ complains? -- Tomasz Torcz 72-| 80-| xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl 72-| 80-| -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F18 systemd update broke varnish service?
Hi, I noticed that varnish service doesn't work after systemd update to version 201-2 varnish.service - Varnish a high-perfomance HTTP accelerator Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/varnish.service; enabled) Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since czw 2013-05-16 23:12:50 CEST; 1min 2s ago Process: 424 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/varnishd -P /var/run/varnish.pid -f $VARNISH_VCL_CONF -a ${VARNISH_LISTEN_ADDRESS}:${VARNISH_LISTEN_PORT} -T ${VARNISH_ADMIN_LISTEN_ADDRESS}:${VARNISH_ADMIN_LISTEN_PORT} -t $VARNISH_TTL -w ${VARNISH_MIN_THREADS},${VARNISH_MAX_THREADS},${VARNISH_THREAD_TIMEOUT} -u $VARNISH_USER -g $VARNISH_GROUP -S $VARNISH_SECRET_FILE -s $VARNISH_STORAGE $DAEMON_OPTS (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: usage: varnishd [options] maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -a address:port # HTTP listen address and port maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -b address:port # backend address and port maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #-b hostname_or_IP maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #-b 'hostname_or_IP:port_or_service' maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -C # print VCL code compiled to C language maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -d # debug maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -f file # VCL script maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -F # Run in foreground maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -h kind[,hashoptions]# Hash specification maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -h critbit [default] maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -h simple_list maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -h classic maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -h classic,buckets maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -i identity # Identity of varnish instance maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -l shl,free,fill # Size of shared memory file maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # shl: space for SHL records [80m] maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # free: space for other allocations [1m] maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # fill: prefill new file [+] maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -M address:port # Reverse CLI destination. maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -n dir # varnishd working directory maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -P file # PID file maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -p param=value # set parameter maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -s kind[,storageoptions] # Backend storage specification maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -s malloc maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -s file [default: use /tmp] maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -s file,dir_or_file maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -s file,dir_or_file,size maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -s persist{experimenta} maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -s file,dir_or_file,size,granularity maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -t # Default TTL maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -S secret-file # Secret file for CLI authentication maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -T address:port # Telnet listen address and port maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -V # version maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -w int[,int[,int]] # Number of worker threads maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -w fixed_count maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -w min,max maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: # -w min,max,timeout [default: -w2,500,300] maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -u user # Priviledge separation user id maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl systemd[1]: varnish.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl systemd[1]: Failed to start Varnish a high-perfomance HTTP accelerator. maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl systemd[1]: Unit varnish.service entered failed state. I downgraded systemd to version 195-15 and varnish works fine again. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Plan to drop php-pecl-apc from Fedora - Urgent review needed
Hi, 2013/4/16 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com Hi, PHP opcode cache is a very important feature for sites with large traffic. APC is mostly a dead project. No stable release for php 5.4, lot of issues. Upstream move most of dev resources to new Zend OPcache which will be the official opcode cache, integrated in PHP 5.5.0 To be able to drop this package, we need 1/ php-pecl-zendopcache, the Zend OPcache for php 5.3 / 5.4 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=91 Target version is EPEL-6 and Fedora = 18 as Fedora = 19 already have php-opcache (subpackage of main php, same code) 2/ php-pecl-apcu, APCu, the drop-in replacement of APC for user data cache. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928196 Target versions : Fedora = 18 and EPEL-6 Please, review this. So you want to replace APC with Zend OPcache on F18 and F17? Remi. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
2013/1/29 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com: Dne 29.1.2013 14:56, Christopher Meng napsal(a): Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per release. Maybe this is the best solution. It might be nice extension to different wallpaper in every release ;) How about installing random desktop? This feature can be called surprise desktop ;) Vít -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
Hi, 2013/1/28 Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org ** On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 00:10 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013, Nikos Roussos wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the traditional desktop interfaces on both Linux and Windows. At least for Windows 8, neither Cinnamon is close to its desktop interface. While it is good that there is research into new user interface concepts, many users prefer to have a traditional interface that they are accustomed to. Unfortunately it is difficult or impossible to assess what fraction of the user base prefers Gnome Shell vs. a more traditional interface. Exactly. There is no way to know that. So I see no real reason to change our default desktop. Even if we consider Gnome 3 as a research (which I don't), Fedora is known to adopt innovative technologies. -- Nikos Roussos comzeradd @ freenode.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Innovative. Innovative or deevolutionary, boring, or just plain annoying? They can all be used in different ways. What you might consider innovative a lot of people consider annoying. True. Or others might consider it productive. Same goes for all Desktop environments. That's why I said that I see no real argument here for changing our default desktop. Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install Gnome and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3 sucks for 85% of population. Here you got an alternatives. -- Nikos Roussos http://roussos.cc comzeradd @ freenode.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
2013/1/28 Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the download button points to something similar to the current More options page, maybe with a small description for each desktop like easy to use / feature rich and customizable / based on the traditional desktop / etc and possibly sorted by popularity, i.e. number of downloads? +1 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, 2013/1/28 Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org ** On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 00:10 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote: On Monday, January 28, 2013, Nikos Roussos wrote: On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the traditional desktop interfaces on both Linux and Windows. At least for Windows 8, neither Cinnamon is close to its desktop interface. While it is good that there is research into new user interface concepts, many users prefer to have a traditional interface that they are accustomed to. Unfortunately it is difficult or impossible to assess what fraction of the user base prefers Gnome Shell vs. a more traditional interface. Exactly. There is no way to know that. So I see no real reason to change our default desktop. Even if we consider Gnome 3 as a research (which I don't), Fedora is known to adopt innovative technologies. -- Nikos Roussos comzeradd @ freenode.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Innovative. Innovative or deevolutionary, boring, or just plain annoying? They can all be used in different ways. What you might consider innovative a lot of people consider annoying. True. Or others might consider it productive. Same goes for all Desktop environments. That's why I said that I see no real argument here for changing our default desktop. Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install Gnome and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3 sucks for 85% of population. Here you got an alternatives. -- Nikos Roussos http://roussos.cc comzeradd @ freenode.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop
2013/1/28 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org: Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 09:56 +0100, Michał Piotrowski a écrit : Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install Gnome and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3 sucks for 85% of population. Here you got an alternatives. For one, if there is 85% of a group that do not use a software, that doesn't mean it sucks for them. I do not use KDE, I do not consider it to sucks. You cannot use 2 DE at the same time, so obviously, you have to chose at a moment. Personally, I do not think that's a great idea from a UI point of view to ask to new users ( cause the non new users are aware they can install something else, so the ballot would be useless for them, and maybe even annoying in the long run ) Personally, I have never, ever used ballot screen on Windows. But I'm always glad when I see it - because of this peoples know that there are alternatives :) -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum
Hi, 2013/1/23 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: On 01/23/2013 10:55 PM, drago01 wrote: Supporting none is not an option. Really suddenly not an option. We did that for a long time why is that suddenly not an option so please enlighten me why that's not an option. Users are better of keeping /home on a separated partition and re-use it with an fresh install then those poor attempts to support upgrades one way or another which at this point in time we cant do since the bits for that aren't properly aligned to make that happen... ? 8-) I really can't imagine it. I use Fedora as a server system for my daily developer work. I use many services with different configurations. Actually updating it with preupgrade/fedup is sometimes hard. Reinstalling whole system after each release will be super painful. JBG -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: what is the current state of ext4 metadata checksums in Fedora?
2013/1/23 Benjamin Lewis ben.le...@benl.co.uk: [..] I've been using it for a few months, and whilst it hasn't yet found any corruption that would otherwise have been missed (which probably means my drives are good!), it also hasn't been the cause of any. Good to hear. I think I'll try this feature when I buy new HDD in a next few days. Now, the inline_data patches were a whole world of pain... There is no 1.43 released yet, latest is 1.42.7 which I just built in rawhide. The WIP branch in git has the metadata checksum bits, so you could play with that if you want. I have a .srpm of it I can upload somewhere if you are interested. Would be great if you can share this. Thanks in advance! I have no plans to backport unreleased upstream work in progress to Fedora, I don't think that'd be wise. To be honest, I haven't yet done a whole lot of testing with it myself, yet. -Eric -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
what is the current state of ext4 metadata checksums in Fedora?
Hi, Ext4 metadata checksums feature was merged into Linux 3.6. Can I use it out of the box with Fedora kernel or is there some magic switch to enable it? Are there any plans to support it in e2fsprogs shipped in Fedora - backport or rebase to 1.43 version? Last but equally important - how stable this feature is? Do anyone has any experience with it? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F18 Samba4 feature - update from Samba3
Hi, Samba3 configuration on my development server is fairly simple. Do I need to change something in the /etc/samba/smb.conf after update to Samba4? I don't see anything about migration here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Samba4 so I assume that it will be trouble-free. Am I too big optimist? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F18 Samba4 feature - update from Samba3
2012/12/18 Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com: On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 18:43 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, Samba3 configuration on my development server is fairly simple. Do I need to change something in the /etc/samba/smb.conf after update to Samba4? I don't see anything about migration here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Samba4 so I assume that it will be trouble-free. Am I too big optimist? As a file server it should keep working as is, however take a look at samba4 release notes, we have finally removed some deprecated configuration options, so if you are using one of them you'll need to decide what to do. Thank you for the information. I'll try to update my system to F18 during the Christmas break. Samba4 update was the only thing that I was afraid of :) Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))
Hi, Do current anaconda problems will have an impact on preupgrade? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))
Hi, 2012/11/3 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com: Note that neither Red Hat nor Microsoft actually support major version upgrades for their operating systems Just take a look at this - MS rocks here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnehDhGa14 -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Update mongodb to 2.2.0 (latest release)
Hi, 2012/10/8 Troy Dawson tdaw...@redhat.com: On 10/05/2012 04:43 PM, Troy Dawson wrote: Hello, I have updated mongodb from 2.0.7 to 2.2.0. It is currently going through the normal channels for rawhide and Fedora 18. 10gen has a very good track record for being backwards compatible. According to their documentation When upgrading a standalone mongod, 2.2 is a drop-in replacement. and MongoDB 2.0 data files are compatible with 2.2-series binaries without any special migration process. If upgrading replica sets and sharded cluster, you should follow the procedures from their release notes. http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/release-notes/2.2/#upgrading What are people's thoughts on bringing it into Fedora 16, Fedora 17, EPEL6 and EPEL5? Troy Dawson I have had requests for mongodb 2.2.0 for Fedora 17, as well as EPEL 6 and 5. I am going to build for those tomorrow and let things sit in testing for at least a week (2 weeks for EPEL). I'll test on Fedora 17 and I'll let you know if I will have problems. The only concern I have received thus far is whether packages will need to be rebuilt against the new mongodb 2.2. From everything I have looked at, the answer is no. The API's should be backward compatible. The libraries provided are the same name, there is no increase in number. $ rpm -qp --provides libmongodb-2.0.7-2.fc18.x86_64.rpm libmongoclient.so()(64bit) libmongodb = 2.0.7-2.fc18 libmongodb(x86-64) = 2.0.7-2.fc18 $ rpm -qp --provides libmongodb-2.2.0-6.fc18.x86_64.rpm libmongoclient.so()(64bit) libmongodb = 2.2.0-6.fc18 libmongodb(x86-64) = 2.2.0-6.fc18 Thank You Troy Dawson -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?
Hi, 2012/9/10 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any chance that 9.2 will be available for F18? I think for 9.1 Tom pushed it just before beta when a few of us promised to do some testing pronmptly. So if 9.2 gets released before f18 beta there is probably a good change it will make it in F18. Otherwise it probably won't. PG 9.2 is now released, and F18 isn't beta yet. So I'd like to push it into F18 --- will anyone help test? regards, tom lane Splendidly :) I can help you tomorrow. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?
2012/9/10 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, 2012/9/10 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com: Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes: Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any chance that 9.2 will be available for F18? I think for 9.1 Tom pushed it just before beta when a few of us promised to do some testing pronmptly. So if 9.2 gets released before f18 beta there is probably a good change it will make it in F18. Otherwise it probably won't. PG 9.2 is now released, and F18 isn't beta yet. So I'd like to push it into F18 --- will anyone help test? regards, tom lane Splendidly :) I can help you tomorrow. I updated my test rawhide VM and now it's broken - it boots to target Basic System. Any ideas? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?
2012/9/10 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 17:58:32 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: I updated my test rawhide VM and now it's broken - it boots to target Basic System. I think that depends on the version of systemd used in the initramfs. When I saw that problem previously I was able to boot with an older kernel. However, I haven't rebooted my rawhide system for about a week, so there might be a new issue where rebooting an older kernel doesn't fix the problem. Indeed, an old kernel works. Thanks. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Reverting tmp on tmpfs mis-feature
Hi, 2012/8/22 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com: broken tmp on tmpfs Could you give a reason why you think so? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones libguestfs lets you edit virtual machines. Supports shell scripting, bindings from many languages. http://libguestfs.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Reverting tmp on tmpfs mis-feature
2012/8/22 DJ Delorie d...@redhat.com: 2012/8/22 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com: broken tmp on tmpfs Could you give a reason why you think so? Can we not repeat the VERY long thread on why this is/isn't a broken feature? Ah, ok, I'll read archived threads. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?
Hi, I am aware that F18 is a special release - base for a new RHEL, so it is possible that you will not want to put there not yet released software. PostgreSQL 9.2 does not have any true revolutionary features, but it has quite a long list of improvements http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/release-9-2.html Is there any chance that 9.2 will be available for F18? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: HEADUP : change in PECL/PEAR packages - Fedora 18 ?
Hi, 2012/8/19 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com: Le 14/08/2012 13:36, Remi Collet a écrit : There still some unneeded stuff in /usr/share/pear I have just do the move from/usr/share/pear/data to /usr/share/pear-data Please provide link from /usr/share/pear/data to /usr/share/pear-data for compatibility reasons on already existing systems. It is not necessary for the new installations. It's a very common practice to point to /usr/share/pear/data/ in virtual hosts Alias /sf /usr/share/pear/data/symfony/web/sf Directory /usr/share/pear/data/symfony/web/sf --AllowOverride All --Allow from All /Directory So this change would break some existing systems. This changes are only done in rawhide for now (50 affected packages, list attached) data_dir is evaluated at build time and then hardcoded in the file. So simple rebuild is mostly enough. Do you think it's still ok to apply this in fedora 18 ? Regards, Remi. == Packages list == php-pear-1.9.4-11.fc19 php-pear-PEAR-Command-Packaging-0.3.0-4.fc19 php-bartlett-PHP-CompatInfo-2.6.0-3.fc19 php-horde-Horde-Date-1.0.11-3.fc19 php-horde-Horde-Nls-1.1.6-3.fc19 php-horde-Horde-Exception-1.0.9-4.fc19 php-ezc-Archive-1.4.1-6.fc19 php-ezc-Authentication-1.3.1-5.fc19 php-ezc-AuthenticationDatabaseTiein-1.1-5.fc19 php-ezc-Base-1.8-5.fc19 php-ezc-Cache-1.5-5.fc19 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.5-5.fc19 php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.6.1-5.fc19 php-ezc-Database-1.4.7-5.fc19 php-ezc-DatabaseSchema-1.4.4-5.fc19 php-ezc-EventLog-1.4-6.fc19 php-ezc-EventLogDatabaseTiein-1.0.2-5.fc19 php-ezc-Feed-1.3-5.fc19 php-ezc-File-1.2-7.fc19 php-ezc-Graph-1.5-5.fc19 php-ezc-Mail-1.7.1-5.fc19 php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.7.1-5.fc19 php-ezc-PersistentObjectDatabaseSchemaTiein-1.3-5.fc19 php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.8-5.fc19 php-ezc-Template-1.4.2-5.fc19 php-ezc-Webdav-1.1.4-5.fc19 php-pear-Cache-1.5.6-6.fc19 php-pear-Console-CommandLine-1.1.3-8.fc19 php-pear-Date-Holidays-0.21.6-4.fc19 php-pear-Date-Holidays-USA-0.1.1-9.fc19 php-pear-DB-DataObject-FormBuilder-1.0.2-3.fc19 php-pear-HTML-QuickForm-advmultiselect-1.5.1-9.fc19 php-pear-HTTP-Request2-2.1.1-4.fc19 php-pear-Image-Canvas-0.3.5-3.fc19 php-pear-Log-1.12.7-5.fc19 php-pear-MDB2-Driver-mysql-1.5.0-0.6.b3.fc19 php-pear-MDB2-Driver-mysqli-1.5.0-0.6.b3.fc19 php-pear-MDB2-Driver-pgsql-1.5.0-0.6.b3.fc19 php-pear-Net-URL-Mapper-0.9.1-8.fc19 php-pear-phing-2.4.12-3.fc19 php-pear-PHP-CodeSniffer-1.3.5-4.fc19 php-pear-PHP-CompatInfo-1.9.0-9.fc19 php-pear-PhpDocumentor-1.4.4-4.fc19 php-pear-Services-Twitter-0.6.3-6.fc19 php-pear-Services-Weather-1.4.6-4.fc19 php-pear-Var-Dump-1.0.4-7.fc19 php-pear-XML-Serializer-0.20.2-8.fc19 php-phpmd-PHP-PMD-1.3.3-3.fc19 php-phpunit-PHP-CodeBrowser-1.0.2-3.fc19 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: HEADUP : change in PECL/PEAR packages - Fedora 18 ?
2012/8/19 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com: Le 19/08/2012 13:53, Michał Piotrowski a écrit : Please provide link from /usr/share/pear/data to /usr/share/pear-data for compatibility reasons on already existing systems. It is not necessary for the new installations. Main goal to move doc, test and data out of /usr/share/pear, it to not have uneeded stuff in the PHP include_dir. /usr/share/pear/data is currently empty. Do you know any package which use this (poorly designed imho) solution ? Symfony 1.4.x pear package installs some data in this directory on Fedora/RHEL. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: HEADUP : change in PECL/PEAR packages - Fedora 18 ?
2012/8/19 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com: Le 19/08/2012 14:12, Michał Piotrowski a écrit : Symfony 1.4.x pear package installs some data in this directory on Fedora/RHEL. I don't see this in the repository. The update won't delete the content, if any, of /usr/share/pear/data. Ok, I had the impression that you want to mv /usr/share/pear/data /usr/share/pear-data As explain, data_dir is evaluated at rpm build time (or at pear install time). So extensions installed (using pear command) before the change will continue to used the old dir (hardcoded in file). Extension installed after the change (and RPM) will use the new one. So I don't see any possible breakage there. Remi. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ https://getactive.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
3.5 overheating - temperature increase of 83%?
Hi, I noticed some strange sensors values on Linux 3.5 3.4.6-2.fc17.x86_64 coretemp-isa- Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: +42.0°C (crit = +90.0°C) Core 1: +49.0°C (crit = +90.0°C) 3.5.0-2.fc17.x86_64 coretemp-isa- Adapter: ISA adapter Core 0: +77.0°C (crit = +125.0°C) Core 1: +84.0°C (crit = +125.0°C) Do anyone else noticed something like that? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: 3.5 overheating - temperature increase of 83%?
Hi, 2012/8/6 Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info: Michał Piotrowski wrote on 06.08.2012 08:59: I noticed some strange sensors values on Linux 3.5 [...] Do anyone else noticed something like that? I'd say this post is off-topic here and this (and all further replies) should have gone/should go to this list instead: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users But maybe I'm overly strict here; otoh maybe I shouldn't even answer at all here. Nevertheless: Is that an Atom? Yes. If yes than I'm dare to do a wild guess: It *might* be normal and resulting from these changes that went into 3.5: http://git.kernel.org/linus/41e58a1f2b90c88d94b4bd84beb9927a4c2704e9 It seems to me that TJUNCTION for Atom 330 is not set right. It should be 85000 not 125000. http://ark.intel.com/products/35641/Intel-Atom-Processor-330-(1M-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB) Thanks for help! I'll contact with the patch author. http://git.kernel.org/linus/fcc14ac1a86931f38da047cf8fb634c6db7b58bc http://git.kernel.org/linus/5592906f8b01282ea3c2acaf641fd067ad4bb3dc HTH CU knurd -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F18 DNF and history
2012/6/22 Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com: On 21/06/12 16:54, Michal Schmidt wrote: On 06/21/2012 04:27 PM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com writes: We do now. You can set clean_requirements_on_remove=1 in yum.conf in which version that is supported? Since 3.2.28-13 http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/orphaned-dep-cleanup-in-yum/ Mea culpa! I have missed we weren't using the 'reason' info we're now storing in the yumdb to know what is a dep and what is not which is a crucial piece of information. Then the curious minds ask ... why clean_requirements_on_remove = 1 isn't a default? +1 Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F18 DNF and history
2012/6/20 Nikola Pajkovsky npajk...@redhat.com: Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com writes: On 19/06/12 10:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:33 +0200, Ales Kozumplik wrote: On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future? According to what is written here https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping history function will likely be dropped. From my POV history feature is very useful. Is there a plan to provide history function in Fedora dnf if yum gets dropped? Hi Michal, Thanks for pointing this out. I considered history a candidate for dropping because I didn't realize people had usecases for it. It is not present in the early versions of DNF but I will make sure to put it back in later. Just to add my voice to the choir, I use it extensively and I suspect many others in QA group too. It's extremely useful when trying to determine exactly what update caused a given problem. Maybe a yum history bisect would be a neat feature? nice one, sir Indeed. But this should be done on a RPM database copy - bisection should not leave any traces in the history. May be something like yum and git merge? # yum upgrade [...] # yum tag -a my_latest_stable_system # yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing [..] something went wrong? # yum checkout my_latest_stable_system or # yum bisect start -- Nikola -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F18 DNF and history
Hi, I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future? According to what is written here https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping history function will likely be dropped. From my POV history feature is very useful. Is there a plan to provide history function in Fedora dnf if yum gets dropped? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F18 DNF and history
2012/6/19 Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com: On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future? According to what is written here https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping history function will likely be dropped. From my POV history feature is very useful. Is there a plan to provide history function in Fedora dnf if yum gets dropped? Hi Michal, Thanks for pointing this out. I considered history a candidate for dropping because I didn't realize people had usecases for it. Sometimes it happens that after large update you have something broken in your system. It's not always clear what could broke the system - then history function is very useful. It is not present in the early versions of DNF but I will make sure to put it back in later. Thank you very much. Ales -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)
Hi, 2012/5/2 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com: [..] So AIUI, you're saying preupgrade wasn't able to add an entry to grub1's config for performing the upgrade? Exactly. That could be filed as a bug, though it probably wouldn't get high priority unless it also affects F15. Someone would have to verify it. I can live with this problem :) It seems that the system so far is working well except for one small thing - I can not log on to phpPgAdmin. I will have to review the configuration to determine what caused the problem. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)
2012/5/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: [..] It seems that the system so far is working well except for one small thing - I can not log on to phpPgAdmin. I will have to review the configuration to determine what caused the problem. I think that in some way /etc/phpPgAdmin/config.inc.php was silently changed during update. $conf['servers'][0]['host'] = 'localhost'; was changed to $conf['servers'][0]['host'] = ''; I do not know how it happened. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)
Hi, W dniu 28 kwietnia 2012 09:52 użytkownik Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com napisał: On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 14:18 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 20:05:50 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql, postgresql? I am using F17 on a machine that use postgres and perl scripts (not mod_perl though) to generate web pages using apache. Things seem to be working fine. As long as http://www.happyassassin.net is running, you can take it that a basic LAMP stack on F17 is working. =) Thanks for the info. I'll try to do an update today - if there are any problems, then I will let you know. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)
2012/4/28 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, W dniu 28 kwietnia 2012 09:52 użytkownik Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com napisał: On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 14:18 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 20:05:50 +0200, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql, postgresql? I am using F17 on a machine that use postgres and perl scripts (not mod_perl though) to generate web pages using apache. Things seem to be working fine. As long as http://www.happyassassin.net is running, you can take it that a basic LAMP stack on F17 is working. =) Thanks for the info. I'll try to do an update today - if there are any problems, then I will let you know. I'm still using grub1 on this machine, so I got small problem Saving Primary metadata Saving file lists metadata Saving other metadata Generating sqlite DBs Sqlite DBs complete Preparing system to boot into installer DEBUG /sbin/grubby --title=Upgrade to Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle) --remove-kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz --add-kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz --initrd=/boot/upgrade/initrd.img --args=preupgrade repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade ks=hd:UUID=daad74d1-728f-42dc-b4ee-456174f83d99:/boot/upgrade/ks.cfg stage2=hd:UUID=daad74d1-728f-42dc-b4ee-456174f83d99:/boot/upgrade/squashfs.img error opening /boot/grub/grub.cfg for read: No such file or directory Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time. All finished. The upgrade will begin when you reboot. I added this config to grub menu manually and performed update. After update I still have 297 packages to update with yum. I think it was outdated mirror or something like that. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)
Hi, W dniu 9 kwietnia 2012 17:46 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, 2012/4/5 Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com: At the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Beta by an additional [..] * Blockers (rbergeron, 15:16:41) If I remember correctly, those were some problems with preupgrade due to the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove feature. Is it possible to upgrade now from F16 to F17 with preupgrade? Has anyone tried to preupgrade from F16 to F17? Are there any problems related to UsrMove (or anything else)? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)
2012/4/26 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com: On 26/04/12 18:50, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Is it possible to upgrade now from F16 to F17 with preupgrade? Has anyone tried to preupgrade from F16 to F17? Are there any problems related to UsrMove (or anything else)? I did it two days ago. No problems KVM Guest GPT formatted. F16.Xfce.x86_64 preupgrade F17 No usrmove problems noticed. Cool, I'll try to do the update over the weekend. I reviewed the list of blockers, and I don't see anything scary https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql, postgresql? -- Regards, Frank Jack of all, fubars -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)
Hi, 2012/3/29 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de: On 03/28/2012 07:39 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2012/3/28 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de: On 03/27/2012 09:46 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: W dniu 21 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: [..] There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other modules that add support for the protocol. I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference. Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this? I wanted to write Who can adopt mod_spdy :) I created a feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18SPDY If someone accidentally did not know what SPDY is - there is a link to interesting video from GoogleTechTalks on this page. I also created an initial version of spec file for mod_spdy that can be found at this repo https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy That mod_ssl_with_npn.so hack looks pretty dodgy to me. Does that even work? Have you tested this together with the regular mod_ssl that comes with the httpd package? I've got some problems with getting it to work. I cannot see how both modules can coexist. I think that it is not possible. As far as I can tell the patch required to mod_ssl is fairly simple and it looks like it will be committed to upstream soon: https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52210 You could ask the maintainer of the httpd package what he thinks about adding this patch to the package so the modified mod_ssl is no longer required. I asked for inclusion of this patch https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809599 I hope the request will be positively considered :) Regards, Dennis -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)
Hi, W dniu 28 marca 2012 19:39 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, 2012/3/28 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de: On 03/27/2012 09:46 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: W dniu 21 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: [..] There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other modules that add support for the protocol. I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference. Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this? I wanted to write Who can adopt mod_spdy :) I created a feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18SPDY If someone accidentally did not know what SPDY is - there is a link to interesting video from GoogleTechTalks on this page. I also created an initial version of spec file for mod_spdy that can be found at this repo https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy That mod_ssl_with_npn.so hack looks pretty dodgy to me. Does that even work? Have you tested this together with the regular mod_ssl that comes with the httpd package? I've got some problems with getting it to work. I am pleased to announce that Fedora has working mod_spdy :) https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft
2012/3/27 Joe Orton jor...@redhat.com: On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 03:09:08PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net said: The following is going to kill pretty much every packaged webapp unless they are changed now: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#access Did you read this part: The old access control idioms should be replaced by the new authentication mechanisms, although for compatibility with old configurations, the new module mod_access_compat is provided. It would be easy to include mod_access_compat in the Fedora default config for a release or two while the compat config is deprecated (and noted in the release notes as such). Yup - the default config in the f18 httpd does load mod_access_compat, and I don't see a problem with shipping like that. Great. Backward compatibility is a good thing. It would be good to convert webapps over for f18, having said that. Regards, Joe -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)
W dniu 21 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: [..] There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other modules that add support for the protocol. I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference. Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this? I wanted to write Who can adopt mod_spdy :) I created a feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18SPDY If someone accidentally did not know what SPDY is - there is a link to interesting video from GoogleTechTalks on this page. I also created an initial version of spec file for mod_spdy that can be found at this repo https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info) 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!
2012/3/23 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Michał Piotrowski wrote: I tried to build mod_spdy and I hit this Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info) 0x) == 8' failed! I get this when I try to build even a simple hello world program. I checked RAM with memtest86+ (I've got a new RAM module) and it's fine. Does anyone have an idea how can I check what causes this problem? The nvidia driver. Not this time. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751891 Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft
Hi, 2012/3/23 Joe Orton jor...@redhat.com: httpd 2.4.1 packages are ready for dist-f18 and will be built early next week. Rebuilds will be required for all packages containing httpd modules. There are API changes in 2.4, so module packages may need patches if upstream has not done that work already: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/developer/new_api_2_4.html There are some significant changes in the packaging, also: 1) Config changes: I've moved to a minimal default httpd.conf which is very close to what we're shipping upstream. a) I'm proposing to split out packaged config snippets from mutable config, with the former in /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/, containing only LoadModule lines, and ordered to avoid load-ordering issues. b) /etc/httpd/conf.d/*.conf should contain no LoadModules for packaged modules, and only any reasonable default configurations. +1 for configuration changes 2) Loadable MPMs! MPMs are now loadable modules, so we only need to ship one httpd binary again. Changing MPM is a config tweak. 3) Content. Putting unmutable content in /var was bad practice, so I've moved the /var/www/manual and /var/www/icons to into /usr/share/httpd. We now ship /var/www/* as empty directories. 4) Filesystem locations have moved in-line with upstream, e.g. apxs is now in /usr/bin. /etc/rpm/httpd.macros has macros for everything module packages should need. Since much of the above requires packaging changes for module packages, I've prepared a draft packaging guideline to document best practice: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/ApacheHTTPModules If anything there looks stupid, needs fixing, is missing, or there's any other feedback, please shout! Regards, Joe -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Do you know if the new version of httpd has major changes in modules API? I'm trying to cobble together spec file for mod_spdy https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy/blob/master/mod_spdy.spec and I hope to finish it for F18 :) -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info) 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!
2012/3/22 John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info) 0x) == 8' failed! Find the .o file which is being processed at the time of the complaint. .o file is not even generated [michal@ozzy src]$ LANG=C make BUILDTYPE=Release CXX(target) out/Release/obj.target/base/third_party/chromium/src/base/string16.o Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info) 0x) == 8' failed! make: *** [out/Release/obj.target/base/third_party/chromium/src/base/string16.o] Error 2 [michal@ozzy src]$ ls out/Release/obj.target/base/third_party/chromium/src/base/ [michal@ozzy src]$ If necessary, then use the --trace option to ld. Run readelf --relocs on that file, and see if they are all OK. If not, then you have found a compiler problem. If all the relocations look OK, then use valgrind to check ld. As always, try to reduce the number and size of input files which trigger the problem. What is the smallest case which generates the complaint? I tried to build hello word #include stdio.h int main(void) { printf(test\n); return 0; } and it fails. It seems to me that I have something really wrong with C/C++ toolchain. I do not remember when I last build C/C++ application on this system - it's very possible that it was before F15 realease. I assume that there may be some error during the some upgrade. -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)
W dniu 13 marca 2012 21:59 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html ? This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice features. Not likely this late in the cycle, though the timing is great for f18. How about SPDY support? http://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/ Firefox supports SPDY http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/spdy-brings-responsive-and-scalable-transport-to-firefox-11/ If there are any work in progress packages for mod_spdy I would like to help test them :) From now Jetty server also supports SPDY http://webtide.intalio.com/2012/03/spdy-support-in-jetty/ -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)
2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com: 2012/3/13 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html ? This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice features. Not likely this late in the cycle, though the timing is great for f18. How about SPDY support? http://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/ Firefox supports SPDY http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/spdy-brings-responsive-and-scalable-transport-to-firefox-11/ If there are any work in progress packages for mod_spdy I would like to help test them :) There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other modules that add support for the protocol. I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference. Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this? Peter -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote: On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Here is the current httpd man page. http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/httpd_selinux.html OK, in the end it IS a wiki ... http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout?action=diffrev1=46rev2=47 Suggestions for further edits are welcome. Matěj I would also suggest they use setroubleshoot. Suggesting setroubleshoot is fine but you need to also tell them how to set it up when they are running without X. One guy told me that setroubleshoot is fine and all but all his machines are headless so he doesn't have X and the nice little applet to notify him. I had to correct him and send him a reference to your page on how to set up setroubleshoot on headless machines so that the messages are sent to another box or to an email account. Dave Which brings up an interesting idea, I have been having, is there a better way of getting the setroubleshoot data from one machine to another. Originally setroubleshoot was designed to be able to push analysys upstream but we never turned it on. Now that we have simplified the XML output, we could look at allowing it to some how centralize its analysys, using a protocol more robust then email If anyone has a good idea of how or where we should do this, I am all ears. Is it possible to split setroubleshoot into two components: - gui - daemon that creates logs ? Logs can be stored in systemd-journal format. systemd-journal should have ability to forward logs on other machines. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9nPT4ACgkQrlYvE4MpobN57QCfQy3d/yHUVGKFBBCKS5C6JdTi BE0An3CUD3dAxiMVLCYfaYE+Zy0mzIUH =L61k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:27 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com napisał: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/19/2012 10:16 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com: On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote: On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Here is the current httpd man page. http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/httpd_selinux.html OK, in the end it IS a wiki ... http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout?action=diffrev1=46rev2=47 Suggestions for further edits are welcome. Matěj I would also suggest they use setroubleshoot. Suggesting setroubleshoot is fine but you need to also tell them how to set it up when they are running without X. One guy told me that setroubleshoot is fine and all but all his machines are headless so he doesn't have X and the nice little applet to notify him. I had to correct him and send him a reference to your page on how to set up setroubleshoot on headless machines so that the messages are sent to another box or to an email account. Dave Which brings up an interesting idea, I have been having, is there a better way of getting the setroubleshoot data from one machine to another. Originally setroubleshoot was designed to be able to push analysys upstream but we never turned it on. Now that we have simplified the XML output, we could look at allowing it to some how centralize its analysys, using a protocol more robust then email If anyone has a good idea of how or where we should do this, I am all ears. Is it possible to split setroubleshoot into two components: - gui - daemon that creates logs ? I really did not use setroubleshoot for a few years - because I don't use X, so please forgive my ignorance if it's already splited :) setroubleshoot-server is the server componant. (dbus service) setroubleshoot is the client componant. We could put the info into systemd-journal. It would be great if there was a possibility to send logs to other machines. Lennart, what do you think about it? Centralized log system is nice feature. Logs can be stored in systemd-journal format. systemd-journal should have ability to forward logs on other machines. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9nQmIACgkQrlYvE4MpobPMkACeImKNxcR3/AUqrJlwcnJ+sUsM tacAniIGW9vXHWEDlaTqOPDw1xsDArhO =Q+fI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
2012/3/19 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: Daniel J Walsh wrote: We could put the info into systemd-journal. Back when sendmail and logwatch were part of the default install, it would have been nice to have SELinux activity reported in it. I still use logwatch so it would still be useful for me to see log data there. Logwatch is great thing and I use it every day. But the problem is if you have multiple machines - you need to review a number of emails every day. So it seems to me that centralized log system would be great feature for large networks. Unless, of course, logwatch is obsolete and there's some new, flashy systemd mail log that I'm supposed to be using that I wasn't told of. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
2012/3/19 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com: Michał Piotrowski wrote: Logwatch is great thing and I use it every day. But the problem is if you have multiple machines - you need to review a number of emails every day. So it seems to me that centralized log system would be great feature for large networks. What's the difference between separate emails and one gigantic email? Or perhaps I have misunderstood what you mean by centralized log system. I mean that was a possibility to have logs from all machines in network on one machine. I did not mean to keep it all in one log. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Bug 803646- Password is visible on gnome-terminal
Hi, 2012/3/16 Anish Patil apa...@redhat.com: Hi, The description of the bug says With English-typing-booster enabled on gnome-terminal, while using su- command, password appears in the text. English typing booster is IBUS-IME for english language. Any thoughts or comments regrading solution will be appreciated. April Fools' Day? :) Regards, Anish Patil. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16 problems with git
2012/3/14 Nikola Pajkovsky npajk...@redhat.com: Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I noticed recently a worrying git behavior. I often do something like that: git fsck --full git gc git push origin master | backup of the entire tree in tar archive 'git fsck' or 'git gc' sometimes causes damage to the repository ie: $ git fsck --full error: packed 694728b9fe62ad667f051a109c389403ffa0cb29 from .git/objects/pack/pack-a4bae2576b36116f1962a5496674ea921eebb6c5.pack is corrupt This time, however, after 'git fsck' rerun I don't get this error message, but in other cases, the repository is corrupted. Has anyone noticed similar problems with git on F16? Linus wrote nice document about recovering corrupted blob http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/howto/recover-corrupted-blob-object.txt;h=323b513ed0e0ce8b749672f589a375073a050b97;hb=HEAD Thanks for sharing this link. This is a lot of git magic and I prefer to do backups :) The most common cause of corruption so far has been memory corruption - it gives me food for thought. I am using the SSD with Ext4 - I checked it recently with fsck.ext4 -cvf, it may also be useful to check RAM. -- Nikola -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F16 problems with git
Hi, I noticed recently a worrying git behavior. I often do something like that: git fsck --full git gc git push origin master | backup of the entire tree in tar archive 'git fsck' or 'git gc' sometimes causes damage to the repository ie: $ git fsck --full error: packed 694728b9fe62ad667f051a109c389403ffa0cb29 from .git/objects/pack/pack-a4bae2576b36116f1962a5496674ea921eebb6c5.pack is corrupt This time, however, after 'git fsck' rerun I don't get this error message, but in other cases, the repository is corrupted. Has anyone noticed similar problems with git on F16? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)
2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com: 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html ? This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice features. Not likely this late in the cycle, though the timing is great for f18. How about SPDY support? http://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/ Firefox supports SPDY http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/spdy-brings-responsive-and-scalable-transport-to-firefox-11/ If there are any work in progress packages for mod_spdy I would like to help test them :) -J -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- in your fear, seek only peace in your fear, seek only love -d. bowie -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
2012/3/6 Paul Wouters pwout...@redhat.com: On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Daniel J Walsh wrote: Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. Or the more obvious place for people with /etc/sysconfig hardcoded in their brain, /etc/sysconfig/selinux :) Though to be honest, F17 is the first version where I have been working with selinux enabled for more then two days. In fact, I have left it enabled since I installed F17 weeks ago. I think the only somewhat valid reason to disabled selinux is if people are using special directories they made up, eg /vol or /opt or anything. (or when copying/dealing with /var/lib/libvirtd/images content in other locations :) I do a lot of stupid things on my development systems. Some things I keep in /home/data, I've got many /home/samba* dirs and project dirs in /home/michal/projekty that need to be shared on samba and need to be accesible by httpd servers. I never had time to deal with SELinux on development system :) Paul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
2012/3/6 Pádraig Brady p...@draigbrady.com: On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on F17. I checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. I found file: /etc/default/grub Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. There are subtle differences with doing that apparently. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2012-02/msg00176.html Once I had a problem to disable SELinux through /etc/sysconfig/selinux - there was a problem with the policy, systemd releated or something like that. So I use big hammer - selinux=0. cheers, Pádraig. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
W dniu 6 marca 2012 17:49 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com napisał: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/06/2012 11:38 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2012/3/6 Pádraig Brady p...@draigbrady.com: On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on F17. I checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. I found file: /etc/default/grub Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config. There are subtle differences with doing that apparently. http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2012-02/msg00176.html Once I had a problem to disable SELinux through /etc/sysconfig/selinux - there was a problem with the policy, systemd releated or something like that. So I use big hammer - selinux=0. cheers, Pádraig. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel I hope this does not get taken out of context. SLASHDOT/Dan Walsh says disable SELinux. :^) You should try to run with SELinux on or in permissive mode. Now I have a laptop with CPU that is virtualization capable, so if I find a little more free time I'll try to prepare configuration on VM. But if you feel you have to disable SELinux, use the config file. If there are bugs we need to know about them and fix them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9WQAQACgkQrlYvE4MpobMoTQCgvbQk8eKnJNcqAkDUrO2WDVJa hrIAnR1+2KVLMkD56P5ADtU1dcXWx+Cq =3VyF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
/etc/default in Fedora
Hi, I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on F17. I checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. I found file: /etc/default/grub Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
2012/3/5 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com: Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) said: I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on F17. I checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. I found file: /etc/default/grub Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. shadow-utils and glibc have been using /etc/default since 2004, at least. I suppose it depends on the package... Agrees. But somehow I never have a need to configure glibc :) Grub configuration is more frequent task. Bill -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
2012/3/5 Lars Seipel lars.sei...@googlemail.com: On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote: Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. It's what upstream uses. See http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration Changing it would invalidate upstream documentation for Fedora users. Simple link to /etc/sysconfig/ will solve the problem. Lars -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: /etc/default in Fedora
W dniu 5 marca 2012 21:40 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/3/5 Lars Seipel lars.sei...@googlemail.com: On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote: Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV. It's what upstream uses. See http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration Changing it would invalidate upstream documentation for Fedora users. Simple link to /etc/sysconfig/ will solve the problem. I created the bug report for this https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800152 -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs
Hi, 2012/3/2 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com: Be careful what you wish for. btrfs is not a clear win on performance. More frightening benchmarks are shown here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegjLbCnoBw This does not surprise me. Btrfs has more features than Ext4, so it may be slower. If anyone wants Btrfs as default FS for Fedora I have nothing against - it is a very good file system. For the next few years I will continue to use Ext3/4 on my systems. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_33_btrfsnum=1 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups
Hi, W dniu 20 lutego 2012 19:52 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: 2012/2/20 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0 process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I used git fsck --full or git gc commands. I've got the same problem on 3.2.6-3.fc16. Any ideas what might be happening? I turned off the swap partition to see if this help. Is this happening inside a virtual guest ? No, this system runs on Intel Atom 330 D945GCLF2. This time it looks different - it happened while system upgrade. Swap is disabled. Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! [yum:13288] Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Modules linked in: smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp serio_raw i2c_i801 iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] CPU 0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Modules linked in: smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp serio_raw i2c_i801 iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Pid: 13288, comm: yum Not tainted 3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 #1 /D945GCLF2 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RIP: 0010:[8118ef33] [8118ef33] shrink_dentry_list+0xc3/0x1e0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RSP: :8800761b1888 EFLAGS: 0282 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RAX: 8a418a41 RBX: 00311ca8 RCX: 0a32 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RDX: 8a41 RSI: 8800667add80 RDI: 8800667adddc Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RBP: 8800761b18d8 R08: 8800761b1908 R09: 88007f64dc38 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] R10: 00311ca8 R11: 0001 R12: 8112b64a Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] R13: 8800761b18d8 R14: ea0001d38000 R15: ea0001d37fc0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] FS: 7f3d3109a700() GS:88007f20() knlGS: Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] CS: 0010 DS: ES: CR0: 80050033 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] CR2: 7f3d1c2c7000 CR3: 37a7b000 CR4: 06f0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] DR0: DR1: DR2: Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] DR3: DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Process yum (pid: 13288, threadinfo 8800761b, task 880079829720) Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Stack: Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] 0080 8800667add80 00040004 880042770080 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] 88004274a95c 880042770080 88004277005c 880076b7c800 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] 880076b7c8e0 8800761b1948 8118fc11 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Call Trace: Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8118fc11] prune_dcache_sb+0x121/0x140 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8117c060] prune_super+0x130/0x1a0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8112bab4] shrink_slab+0x154/0x310 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8112e760] do_try_to_free_pages+0x3e0/0x4c0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8112eb1b] try_to_free_pages+0xab/0x170 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [81122e3a] __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x50a/0x890 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8115b3da] alloc_pages_vma+0x9a/0x150 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8113f3c2] handle_pte_fault+0x722/0xac0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [811f439f] ? ext4_file_write+0xbf/0x260 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [8113fb18] handle_mm_fault+0x1f8/0x350 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [815e5312] do_page_fault+0x142/0x4f0 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [81179000] ? vfs_write+0x110/0x180 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] [815e20b5] page_fault+0x25/0x30 Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Code: 10 49 8d bf 80 Feb 24 08:50:47 ozzy kernel: imklog 5.8.7, log source = /proc/kmsg started. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel
Re: F16 how to install less ruby gem?
2012/2/21 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com: Dne 21.2.2012 18:30, Michał Piotrowski napsal(a): Hi, I want to install less gem. I switched to root account, and typed # gem install less Fetching: therubyracer-0.9.10.gem (100%) Building native extensions. This could take a while... ... And it's all - install process stops. When I check what is happening with ps I get ps -aux : root 18047 0.0 0.1 166076 2164 pts/1 S 18:15 0:00 su root 18048 0.0 0.1 116496 2144 pts/1 S 18:15 0:00 bash root 18062 6.1 3.7 129296 77444 pts/1 S+ 18:15 0:16 /usr/bin/ruby /usr/bin/gem install less root 18408 0.0 0.0 107084 1000 pts/1 S+ 18:16 0:00 make root 18409 0.0 0.0 107124 816 pts/1 S+ 18:16 0:00 g++ -I. -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include -I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I. -Wall -g -rdynamic -fPIC -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC -c v8_value.cpp root 18410 0.3 1.0 147628 21780 pts/1 S+ 18:16 0:00 /usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/cc1plus -quiet -I . -I /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include -I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I . -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 v8_value.cpp -quiet -dumpbase v8_value.cpp -m64 -mtune=generic -march=x86-64 -auxbase v8_value -g -g -O2 -Wall -fexceptions -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC --param ssp-buffer-size=4 -o - root 18411 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/1 Z+ 18:16 0:00 [as]defunct It seems that as is in zombie state. Could anyone advise where to start looking for the solution to this problem? Where it can be a problem? Gem itself or toolchain? The problem will be the gem and its dependencies probably. Since the therubyracer gem bundles v8 javascript engine, it may take some time to compile. The /ext directory of the therubyracer gem might be of interest to you. I'll try to build it manually - without gem scripts. However, since this is nice example of bundling, I would suggest you to take a look for some alternative to less gem. I need lessc with --compress option to build bootstrap framework. I'm not sure if less gem is appropriate for this task, but I wanted to try it. Vit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Thanks for your help! -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16 how to install less ruby gem?
2012/2/22 T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com: 2012/2/22 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: I need lessc with --compress option to build bootstrap framework. I'm not sure if less gem is appropriate for this task, but I wanted to try it. The canonical version of lessc is written for node.js. Looks like the ruby gem just runs that through some sort of node/v8 interpreter for Ruby. It's probably a lot easier just to run it through node itself. I build node packages personally for now until I can whip it into shape for Fedora (which will be F18 or Node v0.8, whichever comes last. I have patches for the 0.7 development branch almost ready to send upstream :-): http://nodejs.tchol.org/ Enable the repository, then just `yum install nodejs-compat-symlinks npm` and `npm install -g less`. Thank you very much - this is exactly what I needed :) (You can also rebuild the SRPMs if you don't trust me, but then you still have the whole building V8 problem. ;-) -T.C. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F16 how to install less ruby gem?
Hi, I want to install less gem. I switched to root account, and typed # gem install less Fetching: therubyracer-0.9.10.gem (100%) Building native extensions. This could take a while... ... And it's all - install process stops. When I check what is happening with ps I get ps -aux : root 18047 0.0 0.1 166076 2164 pts/1S18:15 0:00 su root 18048 0.0 0.1 116496 2144 pts/1S18:15 0:00 bash root 18062 6.1 3.7 129296 77444 pts/1S+ 18:15 0:16 /usr/bin/ruby /usr/bin/gem install less root 18408 0.0 0.0 107084 1000 pts/1S+ 18:16 0:00 make root 18409 0.0 0.0 107124 816 pts/1S+ 18:16 0:00 g++ -I. -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include -I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I. -Wall -g -rdynamic -fPIC -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC -c v8_value.cpp root 18410 0.3 1.0 147628 21780 pts/1S+ 18:16 0:00 /usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/cc1plus -quiet -I . -I /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include -I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I . -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 v8_value.cpp -quiet -dumpbase v8_value.cpp -m64 -mtune=generic -march=x86-64 -auxbase v8_value -g -g -O2 -Wall -fexceptions -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC --param ssp-buffer-size=4 -o - root 18411 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/1Z+ 18:16 0:00 [as] defunct It seems that as is in zombie state. Could anyone advise where to start looking for the solution to this problem? Where it can be a problem? Gem itself or toolchain? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 httpd 2.4?
Hi, Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html ? This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice features. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups
Hi, W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0 process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I used git fsck --full or git gc commands. I've got the same problem on 3.2.6-3.fc16. Any ideas what might be happening? I turned off the swap partition to see if this help. Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102007] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1 stuck for 23s! [kswapd0:36] Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Modules linked in: smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp i2c_i801 serio_raw iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] CPU 1 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Modules linked in: smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp i2c_i801 serio_raw iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Pid: 36, comm: kswapd0 Not tainted 3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 #1 /D945GCLF2 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RIP: 0010:[815e18b1] [815e18b1] _raw_spin_trylock+0x1/0x40 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RSP: 0018:88007834bb60 EFLAGS: 0282 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RAX: 9d689d68 RBX: 880042762700 RCX: 0014 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RDX: 9d68 RSI: 88004271bcc0 RDI: 880042762390 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RBP: 88007834bbc0 R08: 880042762ad8 R09: c900 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] R10: R11: 0002 R12: 88007834bb00 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] R13: 0282 R14: 88007834bb00 R15: 88007f293780 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] FS: () GS:88007f28() knlGS: Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] CS: 0010 DS: ES: CR0: 8005003b Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] CR2: 7f4f3961e000 CR3: 01a05000 CR4: 06e0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] DR0: DR1: DR2: Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] DR3: DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Process kswapd0 (pid: 36, threadinfo 88007834a000, task 88007b63c560) Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Stack: Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] 88007834bbc0 8118ef15 0240 88004271bcc0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] 88007834bba0 88004271c140 ff04 88004272d500 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] 88004272d4dc 880076191800 8800761918e0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Call Trace: Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8118ef15] ? shrink_dentry_list+0xa5/0x1e0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8118fc11] prune_dcache_sb+0x121/0x140 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8117c060] prune_super+0x130/0x1a0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8112bab4] shrink_slab+0x154/0x310 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8112f22a] balance_pgdat+0x4fa/0x6c0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8112f568] kswapd+0x178/0x3d0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [815df2c4] ? __schedule+0x3d4/0x8c0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [81090440] ? remove_wait_queue+0x50/0x50 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8112f3f0] ? balance_pgdat+0x6c0/0x6c0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8108fb9c] kthread+0x8c/0xa0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [815ebaf4] kernel_thread_helper+0x4/0x10 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8108fb10] ? kthread_worker_fn+0x190/0x190 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [815ebaf0] ? gs_change+0x13/0x13 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Code: 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 55 48 c7 c2 ff ff ff ff be 01 00 00 00 48 89 e5 e8 8b fe ff ff 5d c3 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 55 48 89 e5 66 66 66 66 90 8b 17 31 c0 89 d1 c1 e9 10 66 39 ca 74 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Call Trace: Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8118ef15] ? shrink_dentry_list+0xa5/0x1e0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8118fc11] prune_dcache_sb+0x121/0x140 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8117c060] prune_super+0x130/0x1a0 Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] [8112bab4] shrink_slab+0x154/0x310 Feb 20
Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups
2012/2/20 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0 process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I used git fsck --full or git gc commands. I've got the same problem on 3.2.6-3.fc16. Any ideas what might be happening? I turned off the swap partition to see if this help. Is this happening inside a virtual guest ? No, this system runs on Intel Atom 330 D945GCLF2. Dave ___ kernel mailing list ker...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kernel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
glibc policy chage?
Hi, I noticed that F17 is based on the latest stable glibc realease. Previously development Fedora version was based on development glibc. Was there a change of some Fedora glibc policy? If it is no coincidence, but the new policy - many thanks for the change :) -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes
Hi, Microsoft has changed the way of prerelease version naming Alpha - Developer Preview Beta - Consumer Preview Release Candidate - Enterprise (or Business) Preview http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-beta-may-be-called-the-consumer-preview It seems to me that this is a very good change for reasons of PR. Such change in Fedora prerelease naming might encourage more people to test prereleases. IMHO Consumer Preview sounds a lot better than Beta :) -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes
2012/1/25 Jos Vos j...@xos.nl: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:22:37AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Microsoft has changed the way of prerelease version naming Alpha - Developer Preview Beta - Consumer Preview Release Candidate - Enterprise (or Business) Preview http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-beta-may-be-called-the-consumer-preview It seems to me that this is a very good change for reasons of PR. Such change in Fedora prerelease naming might encourage more people to test prereleases. IMHO Consumer Preview sounds a lot better than Beta :) I think the words alpha, beta and RC say exactly what it is. It's bad to have people install consumer previews and expecting things they won't get, such as upgradabilty, I do not quite understand what you mean. stability, etc. I do not think that people will expect high stability from consumer preview. -- -- Jos Vos j...@xos.nl -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes
2012/1/25 Jos Vos j...@xos.nl: On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01:07PM +0100, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I don't think Fedora is for 'consumers'. Due to the policy to not include many non-free components and missing apps from main repos, I don't consider it a consumer OS. I tried it myself and also tried to put it on average user's PCs but it refuse to work as a consumer OS should work. I still can't boot Fedora 16 on my PC. Yes, it is a superbly great developer OS. I don't completely agree with you (and who says you can't install additional non-free components on top of an OS?), but an even bigger problem would then be the enterprise/business preview naming Indeed, enterprise/business is not the Fedora realm. (although I *do* install/maintain Fedora as a desktop for business customers, as RHEL c.s. just contains too old software for some desktop users). -- -- Jos Vos j...@xos.nl -- X/OS Experts in Open Systems BV | Phone: +31 20 6938364 -- Amsterdam, The Netherlands | Fax: +31 20 6948204 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F17/rawhide uninstallable for 48 days?
Hi, I want to install rawhide on one laptop. I tried to use TC1 netinst image (http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Alpha.TC1/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso), but it fails on: ImportError: No module named errors I tried to use xfce live cd (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3725264), but I see the same error. This error was reported at 2011-12-06 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=760786 and possibly fixed at 2011-12-22. More than a month has passed since problem was fixed. I do not understand why fixed version wasn't build for f17/rawhide. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups
Hi, I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0 process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I used git fsck --full or git gc commands. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ messages.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)
Hi, What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a chance to include this DE in Fedora? Unlike the MATE, TD is well maintained and there is a development community. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F16 possible glibc 2.14.90-19 problems
Hi, I've got 15 daemons writen in python that run php tasks. When I start all daemons I see a lot of segfaults in logs. [137969.485410] php[23201]: segfault at 50018 ip 005910d9 sp 7fff4160bd90 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [138037.623654] php[23469]: segfault at bc072fa35 ip 005910d9 sp 7fffd0fda110 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [138189.585367] php[24055]: segfault at 17f73 ip 005910d9 sp 7fffbe262110 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [138447.809834] php[25042] general protection ip:5bcc8d sp:7fff0aeac680 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [138526.771017] php[25274] general protection ip:5a1d94 sp:7fffe2e11850 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [139180.948140] php[27884] general protection ip:5910d9 sp:7fffd9708f30 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [139476.383179] php[28974] general protection ip:5910d9 sp:7fffd3cdd460 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [139485.007395] php[28902]: segfault at bc0dcc21c ip 005910d9 sp 7fffcf113cb0 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [139860.124330] php[30470]: segfault at 14 ip 7f515ba0c7d8 sp 7fff64d4a2d0 error 4 in ld-2.14.90.so[7f515b9f8000+22000] [139911.992581] php[30706]: segfault at 0 ip 7fc84670ac34 sp 7fff40d61168 error 4 in libc-2.14.90.so[7fc84668a000+1aa000] [14.293107] php[31001] general protection ip:5a1d91 sp:7fff31d74e40 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [140085.313565] php[31380]: segfault at 0 ip 7fbc81bd5c34 sp 7fffe711a248 error 4 in libc-2.14.90.so[7fbc81b55000+1aa000] [140120.294446] php[31548] general protection ip:5910d9 sp:774b5020 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [140270.083455] php[32167]: segfault at 0 ip 005ac672 sp 7fff4c80b1f0 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [140274.462653] php[32184]: segfault at 4 ip 005bd4e9 sp 7fff71035ae0 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [140305.552332] php[32258]: segfault at 416f6681 ip 005cd749 sp 7fffdb040c10 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [140343.753005] php[32471] general protection ip:5910d9 sp:7fff22a9dc50 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [140386.823934] php[32590] general protection ip:5a1d91 sp:7fff3f3b8cf0 error:0 in php[40+2ca000] [140396.070389] php[32649]: segfault at 69027d11e4 ip 005911be sp 7fff2fc46b80 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] [140408.000815] php[32718]: segfault at 10 ip 005a1d94 sp 7fffaf578200 error 4 in php[40+2ca000] This problem occurs on glibc 2.14.90-19, after downgrade to 2.14.90-14 problem disappeared. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: why do I need colord?
2011/11/8 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com: 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? Checkout http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/ for details about the project. I know what colord is intended for and I think this is really cool for desktop. I began to wonder why do I need it on my machine, because this system has no lcd panel attached - I'm accessing it through ssh. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
why do I need colord?
Hi, Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? My system is ordinary web developer box with php, python, postgresql, mysql, memcached, cherokee, httpd etc. Colord was installed because of dependencies. But I would like to know why I need this package? My system worked without any problems without it for a few releases and now this package is installed, despite the fact that I have not even x.org installed. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: why do I need colord?
2011/11/8 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com: 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com: Hi, Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? My system is ordinary web developer box with php, python, postgresql, mysql, memcached, cherokee, httpd etc. Colord was installed because of dependencies. But I would like to know why I need this package? My system worked without any problems without it for a few releases and now this package is installed, despite the fact that I have not even x.org installed. Well what dependencies brought it in. Unless we know what pulled it in can anyone know if that dependency is legitimate. Without that information there is no way a person can answer without invalid assumptions. I found the transaction, it seems that it was installed as dependency for pdfjam, not as dependency for regular upgrade as I suspected. So it's my fault, not bad dependecies :) Transaction ID : 109 Begin time : Thu Jun 30 21:47:33 2011 Begin rpmdb: 401:171b28d7b0bbde4f6fa3dfd42c0577370ec84464 End time :21:50:02 2011 (149 seconds) End rpmdb : 439:846b495d5230641ab583f20aa8226677b7911a79 User : michal Return-Code: Success Command Line : install pdfjam.noarch Transaction performed with: Updated rpm-4.9.0-9.fc15.x86_64 ? Updated yum-3.2.29-6.fc15.noarch ? Packages Altered: Dep-Install colord-0.1.7-1.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install gd-2.0.35-12.fc15.x86_64? Dep-Install ghostscript-9.02-1.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install ghostscript-fonts-5.50-24.fc15.noarch ? Dep-Install kpathsea-2007-62.fc15.x86_64? Dep-Install lcms-libs-1.19-4.fc15.x86_64? Dep-Install lcms2-2.2-1.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install libICE-1.0.6-3.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install libSM-1.2.0-2.fc15.x86_64 @fedora/15 Dep-Install libXfont-1.4.3-2.fc15.x86_64@fedora/15 Dep-Install libXt-1.1.0-1.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install libexif-0.6.20-1.fc15.x86_64? Dep-Install libfontenc-1.0.5-4.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install libgphoto2-2.4.10.1-1.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install libieee1284-0.2.11-10.fc15.x86_64 @fedora/15 Dep-Install libv4l-0.8.3-2.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install lockdev-1.0.3-10.fc15.x86_64? Dep-Install netpbm-10.47.26-2.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install netpbm-progs-10.47.26-2.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install openjpeg-libs-1.4-6.fc15.x86_64 ? Install pdfjam-2.08-2.fc15.noarch @fedora/15 Dep-Install poppler-0.16.6-1.fc15.x86_64? Dep-Install poppler-data-0.4.4-2.fc15.noarch? Dep-Install psutils-1.17-37.fc15.x86_64 @fedora/15 Dep-Install sane-backends-1.0.22-3.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install sane-backends-libs-1.0.22-3.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install sane-backends-libs-gphoto2-1.0.22-3.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install tex-preview-11.86-6.fc15.noarch ? Dep-Install texlive-2007-62.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install texlive-dvips-2007-62.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install texlive-latex-2007-62.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install texlive-texmf-2007-37.fc15.noarch ? Dep-Install texlive-texmf-dvips-2007-37.fc15.noarch ? Dep-Install texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-37.fc15.noarch ? Dep-Install texlive-texmf-latex-2007-37.fc15.noarch ? Dep-Install texlive-utils-2007-62.fc15.x86_64 ? Dep-Install urw-fonts-2.4-10.fc15.noarch@fedora/15 Dep-Install xorg-x11-font-utils-1:7.5-6.fc15.x86_64 @fedora/15 history info -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Stephen J Smoogen. The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance. Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. Let us be kind, one to another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacLaren -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: why do I need colord?
2011/11/8 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at: Michał Piotrowski wrote: Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system? Try yum remove colord and see what it wants to remove (and probably say no if it's anything important to you), then you'll know what drags it in (whether for good reasons or not). colord doesn't remove any dependencies here. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F16 my network doesn't work after an update and I don't know how to fix it...
Hi, Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on this box doesn't work anymore. I use NetworkManager and dhcp. During the update NetworkManager and NetworkManager-glib was updated from 1:0.9.1.90-3.git20110927 to 1:0.9.1.90-4.git20110927, dhclient, dhcp-libs and dhcp-common was updated from 12:4.2.2-9 to 12:4.2.3-1. I downgraded NetworkManager and dhcp packages to previous versions, but my network still doesn't work. I guess that one of other updates broke it. I see in history: cronie-* - unlikeley dracut freetype gdb ghostscript-fonts gitweb kernel - I tried previous version - stil no network libblkid libdrm libmount libuuid ntp ntpdate perl-* - many packages php-pear polkit sane-* shared-mime tzdata-* util-linux xen-* ifconfig doesn't show information about inet address so I guess that it is not obtained from dhcp. When I try to run dhclient manualy it can obtain data from dhcp, but it works really slow. When I strace it I see wait4(-1, Warning: cannot bind to specific iface, falling back: Operation not permited Does anyone have any idea what should I downgrade to fix my network? -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F16 my network doesn't work after an update and I don't know how to fix it...
W dniu 26 października 2011 18:18 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: Hi, Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on this box doesn't work anymore. Sorry for the noise. This was a problem with my router. I checked the cable before on my laptop - it worked fine. In some way my laptop obtained dhcp data from router without problem, but my dev server was not able to do it. Router reboot solved the problem. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)
W dniu 25 października 2011 08:32 użytkownik Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com napisał: Dne 24.10.2011 22:27, Michał Piotrowski napsal(a): Yeah, this solution has its drawbacks, but it also has undoubted advantages. I am probably dumb, but could you tell me some *undoubted* advantage of using #!/usr/bin/env sh You can alias sh to other shell. I need to use this from time to time on some servers, for example alias php='/usr/local/php5.3/bin/php -c /usr/local/directadmin/data/users/ehorizon/php/eventhorizon.pl/php53.ini' PATH=/usr/local/php5.3/bin:$PATH Without this trick I would not be able to use php 5.3 cli on my shared hosting. (note, that couple of years ago, we were removing /usr/bin/env python from all Python scripts in Fedora packages, and replacing them with /usr/bin/python, because it was (rightly) agreed, that the moment Fedora doesn't have Python in /usr/bin we have much bigger problems to solve). Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)
2011/10/25 Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com: Dne 24.10.2011 22:48, Michał Piotrowski napsal(a): For example - you can switch to different version of language interpreter with different configuration without modification of the script and without the hassle for server admin. So, because you haven't learned about ln(1) yet, Sometimes you have no control over the server that you are using. we all have to wait for the moment, where yum (for example) gets broken, because of some random bug in some random version of python in /usr/local/bin? Awesome! I not suggested to use this in Fedora scripts, but generally it's verry usefull. Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)
W dniu 25 października 2011 09:20 użytkownik Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com napisał: On 10/24/2011 10:12 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: In any case #!/usr/bin/env sh seems to be more portable solution. please :) you can propose this as a separate feature for F18 :) Let's see, if it gets accepted :) Ok, no problem. -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)
W dniu 25 października 2011 09:26 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com napisał: W dniu 25 października 2011 09:20 użytkownik Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com napisał: On 10/24/2011 10:12 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: In any case #!/usr/bin/env sh seems to be more portable solution. please :) you can propose this as a separate feature for F18 :) Let's see, if it gets accepted :) Ok, no problem. I created feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters I can help with it. I only need to know how to find all scripts that uses #!/bin/sh without installing all packages :) -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)
2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: I created feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters I strongly object to this feature. /bin/sh is a Unix standard back to IIRC around 7th Edition, and there is NO good reason to break it. The #!/usr/bin/env foo suggested replacement has always been a hack to work around broken systems, not something suggested for all scripts. What is wrong with #!/usr/bin/env interpreter from technical POV? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)
2011/10/25 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:33:28PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: I created feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters I strongly object to this feature. /bin/sh is a Unix standard back to IIRC around 7th Edition, and there is NO good reason to break it. The #!/usr/bin/env foo suggested replacement has always been a hack to work around broken systems, not something suggested for all scripts. What is wrong with #!/usr/bin/env interpreter from technical POV? This is what's wrong: $ cat sh.sh #!/bin/sh $ cat env.sh #!/usr/bin/env sh $ chmod +x sh.sh env.sh $ time for i in $(seq 1000); do ./sh.sh; done real 0m2.737s user 0m0.750s sys 0m1.519s $ time for i in $(seq 1000); do ./env.sh; done real 0m3.677s user 0m1.013s sys 0m2.296s Yeah, it is noticeably slower - about 0,00094s. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into Xen guests. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)
2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: 2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said: I created feature page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters I strongly object to this feature. /bin/sh is a Unix standard back to IIRC around 7th Edition, and there is NO good reason to break it. The #!/usr/bin/env foo suggested replacement has always been a hack to work around broken systems, not something suggested for all scripts. What is wrong with #!/usr/bin/env interpreter from technical POV? It is an unnecessary hack, since the intepreters all have standard locations. It also adds the overhead of a second exec() call and a PATH search (start env, let it parse its command line, then search the PATH for the desired interpreter, then exec() the interpreter). Overhead is not big - about 0,00094s according to Richard's test. It also makes system scripts more fragile; for example, if somebody installs (from source) a different version of python in /usr/local/bin, all RPM-installed scripts in /usr/bin (that may not even work with that version) will now use the new version with unpredictable results. Yes, this is a good argument. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel