Re: exclude people from giving karma?

2014-02-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Maybe they didn't have any issues?


2014-02-23 18:12 GMT+01:00 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net:


 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-2922/libreoffice-4.2.1.1-1.fc20?_csrf_token=a6a024f6e2d35ad3fb8666c1244e215a6aa2

 how can people pretend installation went smoothly, no issue detected
 during basic
 document manipulation for packages which are not installable at all due
 dependencie problems?


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Re: ecryptfs alternatives

2013-12-18 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2013/12/18 Kamil Paral kpa...@redhat.com

  On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:33:34PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
   The beauty of ecryptfs is that I can encrypt one dir - not whole file
   system.
 
  What's the concern with encrypting the whole filesystem?  It's better
  for you because you leave significant personal information all over
  the disk, eg in log files in /var/log, in /etc files.  Performance-
  wise it's not IMHO noticeable.

 I use ecryptfs for Dropbox synchronization. I let it synchronize the
 encrypted folder and decrypt it on my clients. Very useful. A simple and
 convenient way how to synchronize private data.


There is another use case:
Michal wants to store backups of his backups on his fiancee hdd.
Ewelina uses her hdd in her work place so there is a possibility that
someone can steal the data.
Michal can encrypt his data without encrypting the whole hdd so Ewelina can
use it to her normal work.

Of course this can be done with gpg2, but ecryptfs is a lot easier to use.

It's OT here, but what are the reasons why RH drops support for ecryptfs?
Ecryptfs seems to be more user friendly for encrypting data on btrfs than
using dm-crypt on each drive. For example - you have a btrfs that uses 3
different hdd's - AFAIU you need to enter password for each hdd before
mounting filesystem.

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Re: EPEL for RHEL7 Beta

2013-12-13 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2013/12/13 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net

 sorry for half off-topic but are there any plans to
 have EPEL pakcages for RHEL7 public-beta or even
 still available and i am too stupid to find them?

 the base repo is missing a lot of things like
  * htop
  * lynis
  * rkhunter
  * phpMyAdmin
  * php-pecl-mailparse
  * php-pecl-geoip
  * php-pecl-imagick
  * php-pecl-zendopcache
  * php-pecl-uploadprogress


phpPgAdmin
mongo
nginx
varnish

:)



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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 20 Final Release Candidate 1 (RC1) Available Now!

2013-12-13 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Is there any netinstall image for this RC1?

2013/12/12 Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org

 NOTE: The 32-bit Install DVD is over its size limit.

 As per the Fedora 20 schedule [1], Fedora 20 Final Release Candidate 1
 (RC1) is now available for testing. Content information, including
 changes, can be found at
 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808#comment:15 . Please see the
 following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing
 instructions. Normally dl.fedoraproject.org should provide the fastest
 download, but download-ib01.fedoraproject.org is available as a mirror
 (with an approximately 1 hour lag) in case of trouble. To use it, just
 replace dl with download-ib01 in the download URL.

 Installation:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test

 Base:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Base_Test

 Desktop:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

 Ideally, all Alpha, Beta, and Final priority test cases for Installation
 [2], Base [3], and Desktop [4] should pass in order to meet the Final
 Release Criteria [5]. Help is available on #fedora-qa on
 irc.freenode.net [6], or on the test list [7].

 Create Fedora 20 Final test compose (TC) and release candidate (RC)
 https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5808

 Current Blocker and Freeze Exception bugs:
 http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current

 [1] http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-quality-tasks.html
 [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Installation_validation_testing
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 [5] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Final_Release_Criteria
 [6] irc://irc.freenode.net/fedora-qa
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Re: ecryptfs alternatives

2013-12-12 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2013/12/12 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to

 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 15:17:33 +,
   Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:33:34PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:

 The beauty of ecryptfs is that I can encrypt one dir - not whole file
 system.


 What's the concern with encrypting the whole filesystem?  It's better
 for you because you leave significant personal information all over
 the disk, eg in log files in /var/log, in /etc files.


I'm aware of this, but I'm not so paranoid :)


 Performance-
 wise it's not IMHO noticeable.


 On a multi-user system one might be worried about some threats from other
 users that might be mitigated by encrypting directories.


That was the use case when I started to use ecryptfs 4.5 years ago.
Currently I can use full disc encryption for my data.



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ecryptfs alternatives

2013-12-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I have read in RHEL 7 beta release notes that ecryptfs will be deprecated
in this release. The problem is that I've got a system on Fedora19 (which I
want to move to EL7 after release) with some encrypted data. I'm looking
for realiable alternative to ecryptfs that will work on EL7 out of box or
will be relatively easy to build (without rebuilding kernel modules every
update).

Can you recommend any solutions?

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Re: ecryptfs alternatives

2013-12-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2013/12/11 Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com

 2013/12/11 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
  Hi,
 
  I have read in RHEL 7 beta release notes that ecryptfs will be
 deprecated in
  this release. The problem is that I've got a system on Fedora19 (which I
  want to move to EL7 after release) with some encrypted data. I'm looking
 for
  realiable alternative to ecryptfs that will work on EL7 out of box or
 will
  be relatively easy to build (without rebuilding kernel modules every
  update).
 
  Can you recommend any solutions?

 dm-crypt. Also compatible with TrueCrypt (via external userspace
 utility - tc-play).


The beauty of ecryptfs is that I can encrypt one dir - not whole file
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Re: Packages have proxy word.

2013-10-31 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Renaming packages it is not user friendly thing because of few reasons:
- there's some documentation/blog posts etc that use these names
- this will break installation scripts
- poeple who use these packages are familiar with these names

What if your country also ban proxies word?


2013/11/1 مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com

 بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم

 Hi,

 The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !!

 When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error
 message will appear with http 403 error forbidden.

 In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are
 forbidden and couldn't open by default way.

 In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates:

 libproxy - sssd-proxy .

 Can to rename to :

 libproxies - sssd-proxies

 Or something else.

 Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging
 guidlines.



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PostgreSQL 9.3 in Fedora 20?

2013-09-09 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I know that currently Fedora 20 is in feature freeze state. But Alpha
version is still not released and PosgreSQL developers released new latest
and greates version
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/release-9-3.html with cool
features. Are there chances to get this version for F20?

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.3 in Fedora 20?

2013-09-09 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,


2013/9/9 Pavel Raiskup prais...@redhat.com

  I know that currently Fedora 20 is in feature freeze state. But Alpha
  version is still not released and PosgreSQL developers released new
 latest
  and greates version
  http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.3/static/release-9-3.html with cool
  features. Are there chances to get this version for F20?

 Personaly, I would update the version in fc20 also, if there were done
 proper testing through bodhi..  Could anybody help with testing?


Yes, of course I can help with testing.



 So if there were no complaints, I would try to prepare the update tomorrow
 probably.

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Re: Fedora 19 - Feature PHP 5.5 done !

2013-06-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Thank you very much! It's a great feature :)


2013/6/20 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Php55

 I just create the update to PHP 5.5.0 final.

 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/php-5.5.0-1.fc19

 Very very short before F19 release !


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Re: Does -devel package name only indicate C development packages?

2013-05-18 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2013/5/18 Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl

 On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 06:18:41AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1
 
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=962081
 
  I have a request to change the name of selinux-policy-devel to
  selinux-policy-devel-support, since
 
  everywhere else in the distro -devel means just header files in c and
 not any
  other development tools and we have several scripts that assume that's
 the case.

   That's some strange interpretation. I completly don't agree with that.

  selinux-policy-devel contains interface files and tools required to build
  selinux-policy.  It also currently contains the man pages, which I can
 move to
  the base package.

   That seems like a perfect description for what -devel is.  For normal
 usage
 selinux-policy is required.  For building and modification – -devel
 package. Seems
 completely intuitive for me.


Agree.

I wonder if -devel means just header files in c applies to c++ headers as
well?




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F18 systemd update broke varnish service?

2013-05-16 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I noticed that varnish service doesn't work after systemd update to version
201-2

varnish.service - Varnish a high-perfomance HTTP accelerator
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/varnish.service; enabled)
   Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since czw 2013-05-16 23:12:50 CEST;
1min 2s ago
  Process: 424 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/varnishd -P /var/run/varnish.pid -f
$VARNISH_VCL_CONF -a ${VARNISH_LISTEN_ADDRESS}:${VARNISH_LISTEN_PORT} -T
${VARNISH_ADMIN_LISTEN_ADDRESS}:${VARNISH_ADMIN_LISTEN_PORT} -t
$VARNISH_TTL -w
${VARNISH_MIN_THREADS},${VARNISH_MAX_THREADS},${VARNISH_THREAD_TIMEOUT} -u
$VARNISH_USER -g $VARNISH_GROUP -S $VARNISH_SECRET_FILE -s $VARNISH_STORAGE
$DAEMON_OPTS (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)

maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: usage: varnishd [options]
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -a address:port  # HTTP
listen address and port
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -b address:port  #
backend address and port
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #-b hostname_or_IP
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #-b
'hostname_or_IP:port_or_service'
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -C   # print
VCL code compiled to C language
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -d   # debug
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -f file  # VCL
script
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -F   # Run
in foreground
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -h kind[,hashoptions]# Hash
specification
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -h critbit [default]
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -h simple_list
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -h classic
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -h classic,buckets
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -i identity  #
Identity of varnish instance
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -l shl,free,fill # Size
of shared memory file
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   shl: space for SHL records [80m]
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   free: space for other
allocations [1m]
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   fill: prefill new file [+]
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -M address:port  #
Reverse CLI destination.
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -n dir   #
varnishd working directory
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -P file  # PID
file
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -p param=value   # set
parameter
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -s kind[,storageoptions] #
Backend storage specification
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -s malloc
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -s file  [default: use /tmp]
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -s file,dir_or_file
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -s file,dir_or_file,size
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -s persist{experimenta}
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -s
file,dir_or_file,size,granularity
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -t   #
Default TTL
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -S secret-file   #
Secret file for CLI authentication
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -T address:port  #
Telnet listen address and port
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -V   #
version
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -w int[,int[,int]]   #
Number of worker threads
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -w fixed_count
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -w min,max
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: #   -w min,max,timeout [default:
-w2,500,300]
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl varnishd[424]: -u user  #
Priviledge separation user id
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl systemd[1]: varnish.service: control process
exited, code=exited status=1
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl systemd[1]: Failed to start Varnish a
high-perfomance HTTP accelerator.
maj 16 23:12:50 ozzy.pl systemd[1]: Unit varnish.service entered failed
state.

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Re: Plan to drop php-pecl-apc from Fedora - Urgent review needed

2013-04-16 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2013/4/16 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com

 Hi,

 PHP opcode cache is a very important feature for sites with large traffic.

 APC is mostly a dead project.
 No stable release for php 5.4, lot of issues.

 Upstream move most of dev resources to new Zend OPcache which will be
 the official opcode cache, integrated in PHP 5.5.0

 To be able to drop this package, we need

 1/ php-pecl-zendopcache, the Zend OPcache for php 5.3 / 5.4

 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=91

 Target version is EPEL-6 and Fedora = 18 as Fedora = 19 already have
 php-opcache (subpackage of main php, same code)

 2/ php-pecl-apcu, APCu, the drop-in replacement of APC for user data cache.
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928196

 Target versions : Fedora = 18 and EPEL-6

 Please, review this.


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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-29 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2013/1/29 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com:
 Dne 29.1.2013 14:56, Christopher Meng napsal(a):


 Funny...I suggest that we can submit a changing desktop feature per
 release.

 Maybe this is the best solution.



 It might be nice extension to different wallpaper in every release ;)

How about installing random desktop? This feature can be called
surprise desktop ;)


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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-28 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2013/1/28 Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org

 **
 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 00:10 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:



 On Monday, January 28, 2013, Nikos Roussos wrote:

 On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
  The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the traditional
 desktop
  interfaces on both Linux and Windows.

 At least for Windows 8, neither Cinnamon is close to its desktop
 interface.

  While it is good that there is research
  into new user interface concepts, many users prefer to have a traditional
  interface that they are accustomed to. Unfortunately it is difficult or
  impossible to assess what fraction of the user base prefers Gnome Shell
 vs. a
  more traditional interface.

 Exactly. There is no way to know that. So I see no real reason to change
 our default desktop.
 Even if we consider Gnome 3 as a research (which I don't), Fedora is
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  Innovative.



  Innovative or deevolutionary, boring, or just plain annoying?
 They can all be used in different ways. What you might consider
 innovative a lot of people consider annoying.


 True. Or others might consider it productive. Same goes for all Desktop
 environments. That's why I said that I see no real argument here for
 changing our default desktop.


Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install Gnome
and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3 sucks for 85%
of population. Here you got an alternatives.


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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-28 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2013/1/28 Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com

 Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the
 download button points to something similar to the current More options
 page, maybe with a small description for each desktop like easy to use /
 feature rich and customizable / based on the traditional desktop / etc
 and possibly sorted by popularity, i.e. number of downloads?


+1




 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 2013/1/28 Nikos Roussos comzer...@fedoraproject.org

 **
 On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 00:10 -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:



 On Monday, January 28, 2013, Nikos Roussos wrote:

 On Sun, 2013-01-27 at 14:53 +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
  The Gnome 3 interface is substantially different that the traditional
 desktop
  interfaces on both Linux and Windows.

 At least for Windows 8, neither Cinnamon is close to its desktop
 interface.

  While it is good that there is research
  into new user interface concepts, many users prefer to have a
 traditional
  interface that they are accustomed to. Unfortunately it is difficult or
  impossible to assess what fraction of the user base prefers Gnome
 Shell vs. a
  more traditional interface.

 Exactly. There is no way to know that. So I see no real reason to change
 our default desktop.
 Even if we consider Gnome 3 as a research (which I don't), Fedora is
 known to adopt innovative technologies.


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  Innovative.



  Innovative or deevolutionary, boring, or just plain annoying?
 They can all be used in different ways. What you might consider
 innovative a lot of people consider annoying.


 True. Or others might consider it productive. Same goes for all Desktop
 environments. That's why I said that I see no real argument here for
 changing our default desktop.


 Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install
 Gnome and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3 sucks
 for 85% of population. Here you got an alternatives.


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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-01-28 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2013/1/28 Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org:
 Le lundi 28 janvier 2013 à 09:56 +0100, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :

 Maybe it should be something like defaultless desktop. Just install
 Gnome and display desktop ballot screen Yes, we know that Gnome 3
 sucks for 85% of population. Here you got an alternatives.

 For one, if there is 85% of a group that do not use a software, that
 doesn't mean it sucks for them. I do not use KDE, I do not consider it
 to sucks. You cannot use 2 DE at the same time, so obviously, you have
 to chose at a moment.

 Personally, I do not think that's a great idea from a UI point of view
 to ask to new users ( cause the non new users are aware they can install
 something else, so the ballot would be useless for them, and maybe even
 annoying in the long run )

Personally, I have never, ever used ballot screen on Windows. But I'm
always glad when I see it - because of this peoples know that there
are alternatives :)

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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Fedora Upgrade - using yum

2013-01-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2013/1/23 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
 On 01/23/2013 10:55 PM, drago01 wrote:

 Supporting none is not an option.


 Really suddenly not an option.

 We did that for a long time why is that suddenly not an option so please
 enlighten me why that's not an option.

 Users are better of keeping /home on a separated partition and re-use it
 with an fresh install then those poor attempts to support upgrades one way
 or another which at this point in time we cant do since the bits for that
 aren't properly aligned to make that happen...

? 8-)

I really can't imagine it.

I use Fedora as a server system for my daily developer work. I use
many services with different configurations. Actually updating it with
preupgrade/fedup is sometimes hard. Reinstalling whole system after
each release will be super painful.


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Re: what is the current state of ext4 metadata checksums in Fedora?

2013-01-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2013/1/23 Benjamin Lewis ben.le...@benl.co.uk:
[..]
 I've been using it for a few months, and whilst it hasn't yet found any
 corruption that would otherwise have been missed (which probably means
 my drives are good!), it also hasn't been the cause of any.

Good to hear. I think I'll try this feature when I buy new HDD in a
next few days.


 Now, the inline_data patches were a whole world of pain...



 There is no 1.43 released yet, latest is 1.42.7 which I just built in
 rawhide.

 The WIP branch in git has the metadata checksum bits, so you could play
 with that if you want.


 I have a .srpm of it I can upload somewhere if you are interested.

Would be great if you can share this. Thanks in advance!



 I have no plans to backport unreleased upstream work in progress to
 Fedora,
 I don't think that'd be wise.

 To be honest, I haven't yet done a whole lot of testing with it myself,
 yet.

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what is the current state of ext4 metadata checksums in Fedora?

2013-01-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Ext4 metadata checksums feature was merged into Linux 3.6. Can I use
it out of the box with Fedora kernel or is there some magic switch to
enable it?

Are there any plans to support it in e2fsprogs shipped in Fedora -
backport or rebase to 1.43 version?

Last but equally important - how stable this feature is? Do anyone has
any experience with it?

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F18 Samba4 feature - update from Samba3

2012-12-18 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Samba3 configuration on my development server is fairly simple. Do I
need to change something in the /etc/samba/smb.conf after update to
Samba4?

I don't see anything about migration here
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Samba4
so I assume that it will be trouble-free. Am I too big optimist?

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Re: F18 Samba4 feature - update from Samba3

2012-12-18 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/12/18 Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com:
 On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 18:43 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,

 Samba3 configuration on my development server is fairly simple. Do I
 need to change something in the /etc/samba/smb.conf after update to
 Samba4?

 I don't see anything about migration here
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Samba4
 so I assume that it will be trouble-free. Am I too big optimist?

 As a file server it should keep working as is, however take a look at
 samba4 release notes, we have finally removed some deprecated
 configuration options, so if you are using one of them you'll need to
 decide what to do.

Thank you for the information.

I'll try to update my system to F18 during the Christmas break. Samba4
update was the only thing that I was afraid of :)


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Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID))

2012-11-02 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Do current anaconda problems will have an impact on preupgrade?

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Re: Rolling release model philosophy (was Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule (was Re: f18: how to install into a LVM partitions (or RAID)))

2012-11-02 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/11/3 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
 Note
 that neither Red Hat nor Microsoft actually support major version
 upgrades for their operating systems

Just take a look at this - MS rocks here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPnehDhGa14

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Re: Update mongodb to 2.2.0 (latest release)

2012-10-08 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/10/8 Troy Dawson tdaw...@redhat.com:
 On 10/05/2012 04:43 PM, Troy Dawson wrote:
 Hello,
 I have updated mongodb from 2.0.7 to 2.2.0.
 It is currently going through the normal channels for rawhide and Fedora 18.

 10gen has a very good track record for being backwards compatible.
 According to their documentation When upgrading a standalone mongod,
 2.2 is a drop-in replacement. and MongoDB 2.0 data files are
 compatible with 2.2-series binaries without any special migration process.
 If upgrading replica sets and sharded cluster, you should follow the
 procedures from their release notes.
 http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/release-notes/2.2/#upgrading

 What are people's thoughts on bringing it into Fedora 16, Fedora 17,
 EPEL6 and EPEL5?

 Troy Dawson

 I have had requests for mongodb 2.2.0 for Fedora 17, as well as EPEL 6
 and 5.  I am going to build for those tomorrow and let things sit in
 testing for at least a week (2 weeks for EPEL).

I'll test on Fedora 17 and I'll let you know if I will have problems.


 The only concern I have received thus far is whether packages will need
 to be rebuilt against the new mongodb 2.2.

 From everything I have looked at, the answer is no.
 The API's should be backward compatible.
 The libraries provided are the same name, there is no increase in number.

 $ rpm -qp --provides libmongodb-2.0.7-2.fc18.x86_64.rpm
 libmongoclient.so()(64bit)
 libmongodb = 2.0.7-2.fc18
 libmongodb(x86-64) = 2.0.7-2.fc18

 $ rpm -qp --provides libmongodb-2.2.0-6.fc18.x86_64.rpm
 libmongoclient.so()(64bit)
 libmongodb = 2.2.0-6.fc18
 libmongodb(x86-64) = 2.2.0-6.fc18

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-09-10 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/9/10 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there any chance that 9.2 will be available for F18?

 I think for 9.1 Tom pushed it just before beta when a few of us promised
 to do some testing pronmptly.

 So if 9.2 gets released before f18 beta there is probably a good change it 
 will
 make it in F18. Otherwise it probably won't.

 PG 9.2 is now released, and F18 isn't beta yet.  So I'd like to push it
 into F18 --- will anyone help test?

 regards, tom lane

Splendidly :)

I can help you tomorrow.

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-09-10 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/9/10 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 2012/9/10 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there any chance that 9.2 will be available for F18?

 I think for 9.1 Tom pushed it just before beta when a few of us promised
 to do some testing pronmptly.

 So if 9.2 gets released before f18 beta there is probably a good change it 
 will
 make it in F18. Otherwise it probably won't.

 PG 9.2 is now released, and F18 isn't beta yet.  So I'd like to push it
 into F18 --- will anyone help test?

 regards, tom lane

 Splendidly :)

 I can help you tomorrow.


I updated my test rawhide VM and now it's broken - it boots to target
Basic System.

Any ideas?

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-09-10 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/9/10 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to:
 On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 17:58:32 +0200,
   Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:


 I updated my test rawhide VM and now it's broken - it boots to target
 Basic System.


 I think that depends on the version of systemd used in the initramfs. When I
 saw that problem previously I was able to boot with an older kernel.
 However, I haven't rebooted my rawhide system for about a week, so there
 might be a new issue where rebooting an older kernel doesn't fix the
 problem.

Indeed, an old kernel works. Thanks.


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Re: Reverting tmp on tmpfs mis-feature

2012-08-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/8/22 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com:
 broken tmp on tmpfs

Could you give a reason why you think so?


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Re: Reverting tmp on tmpfs mis-feature

2012-08-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/8/22 DJ Delorie d...@redhat.com:

 2012/8/22 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com:
  broken tmp on tmpfs

 Could you give a reason why you think so?

 Can we not repeat the VERY long thread on why this is/isn't a broken feature?

Ah, ok, I'll read archived threads.

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PostgreSQL 9.2 for F18?

2012-08-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I am aware that F18 is a special release - base for a new RHEL, so it
is possible that you will not want to put there not yet released
software. PostgreSQL 9.2 does not have any true revolutionary
features, but it has quite a long list of improvements
http://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/static/release-9-2.html

Is there any chance that 9.2 will be available for F18?

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Re: HEADUP : change in PECL/PEAR packages - Fedora 18 ?

2012-08-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/8/19 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com:
 Le 14/08/2012 13:36, Remi Collet a écrit :
 There still some unneeded stuff in /usr/share/pear

 I have just do the move
 from/usr/share/pear/data
 to  /usr/share/pear-data

Please provide link from /usr/share/pear/data to /usr/share/pear-data
for compatibility reasons on already existing systems. It is not necessary
for the new installations.

It's a very common practice to point to /usr/share/pear/data/ in virtual hosts
Alias /sf /usr/share/pear/data/symfony/web/sf
Directory /usr/share/pear/data/symfony/web/sf
--AllowOverride All
--Allow from All
/Directory

So this change would break some existing systems.



 This changes are only done in rawhide for now
 (50 affected packages, list attached)

 data_dir is evaluated at build time and then hardcoded in the file.
 So simple rebuild is mostly enough.

 Do you think it's still ok to apply this in fedora 18 ?



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 == Packages list ==
 php-pear-1.9.4-11.fc19
 php-pear-PEAR-Command-Packaging-0.3.0-4.fc19
 php-bartlett-PHP-CompatInfo-2.6.0-3.fc19
 php-horde-Horde-Date-1.0.11-3.fc19
 php-horde-Horde-Nls-1.1.6-3.fc19
 php-horde-Horde-Exception-1.0.9-4.fc19
 php-ezc-Archive-1.4.1-6.fc19
 php-ezc-Authentication-1.3.1-5.fc19
 php-ezc-AuthenticationDatabaseTiein-1.1-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Base-1.8-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Cache-1.5-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Configuration-1.3.5-5.fc19
 php-ezc-ConsoleTools-1.6.1-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Database-1.4.7-5.fc19
 php-ezc-DatabaseSchema-1.4.4-5.fc19
 php-ezc-EventLog-1.4-6.fc19
 php-ezc-EventLogDatabaseTiein-1.0.2-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Feed-1.3-5.fc19
 php-ezc-File-1.2-7.fc19
 php-ezc-Graph-1.5-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Mail-1.7.1-5.fc19
 php-ezc-PersistentObject-1.7.1-5.fc19
 php-ezc-PersistentObjectDatabaseSchemaTiein-1.3-5.fc19
 php-ezc-SystemInformation-1.0.8-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Template-1.4.2-5.fc19
 php-ezc-Webdav-1.1.4-5.fc19
 php-pear-Cache-1.5.6-6.fc19
 php-pear-Console-CommandLine-1.1.3-8.fc19
 php-pear-Date-Holidays-0.21.6-4.fc19
 php-pear-Date-Holidays-USA-0.1.1-9.fc19
 php-pear-DB-DataObject-FormBuilder-1.0.2-3.fc19
 php-pear-HTML-QuickForm-advmultiselect-1.5.1-9.fc19
 php-pear-HTTP-Request2-2.1.1-4.fc19
 php-pear-Image-Canvas-0.3.5-3.fc19
 php-pear-Log-1.12.7-5.fc19
 php-pear-MDB2-Driver-mysql-1.5.0-0.6.b3.fc19
 php-pear-MDB2-Driver-mysqli-1.5.0-0.6.b3.fc19
 php-pear-MDB2-Driver-pgsql-1.5.0-0.6.b3.fc19
 php-pear-Net-URL-Mapper-0.9.1-8.fc19
 php-pear-phing-2.4.12-3.fc19
 php-pear-PHP-CodeSniffer-1.3.5-4.fc19
 php-pear-PHP-CompatInfo-1.9.0-9.fc19
 php-pear-PhpDocumentor-1.4.4-4.fc19
 php-pear-Services-Twitter-0.6.3-6.fc19
 php-pear-Services-Weather-1.4.6-4.fc19
 php-pear-Var-Dump-1.0.4-7.fc19
 php-pear-XML-Serializer-0.20.2-8.fc19
 php-phpmd-PHP-PMD-1.3.3-3.fc19
 php-phpunit-PHP-CodeBrowser-1.0.2-3.fc19


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Re: HEADUP : change in PECL/PEAR packages - Fedora 18 ?

2012-08-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/8/19 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com:
 Le 19/08/2012 13:53, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :

 Please provide link from /usr/share/pear/data to /usr/share/pear-data
 for compatibility reasons on already existing systems. It is not necessary
 for the new installations.

 Main goal to move doc, test and data out of /usr/share/pear, it to
 not have uneeded stuff in the PHP include_dir.

 /usr/share/pear/data is currently empty.

 Do you know any package which use this (poorly designed imho) solution ?

Symfony 1.4.x pear package installs some data in this directory on Fedora/RHEL.



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Re: HEADUP : change in PECL/PEAR packages - Fedora 18 ?

2012-08-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/8/19 Remi Collet fed...@famillecollet.com:
 Le 19/08/2012 14:12, Michał Piotrowski a écrit :
 Symfony 1.4.x pear package installs some data in this directory on 
 Fedora/RHEL.

 I don't see this in the repository.

 The update won't delete the content, if any, of /usr/share/pear/data.

Ok, I had the impression that you want to

mv /usr/share/pear/data /usr/share/pear-data



 As explain, data_dir is evaluated at rpm build time (or at pear
 install time). So extensions installed (using pear command) before the
 change will continue to used the old dir (hardcoded in file).

 Extension installed after the change (and RPM) will use the new one.

 So I don't see any possible breakage there.

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3.5 overheating - temperature increase of 83%?

2012-08-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I noticed some strange sensors values on Linux 3.5

3.4.6-2.fc17.x86_64

coretemp-isa-
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:   +42.0°C  (crit = +90.0°C)
Core 1:   +49.0°C  (crit = +90.0°C)



3.5.0-2.fc17.x86_64

coretemp-isa-
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0:   +77.0°C  (crit = +125.0°C)
Core 1:   +84.0°C  (crit = +125.0°C)


Do anyone else noticed something like that?

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Re: 3.5 overheating - temperature increase of 83%?

2012-08-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/8/6 Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info:
 Michał Piotrowski wrote on 06.08.2012 08:59:

 I noticed some strange sensors values on Linux 3.5
 [...]
 Do anyone else noticed something like that?

 I'd say this post is off-topic here and this (and all further replies)
 should have gone/should go to this list instead:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users

 But maybe I'm overly strict here; otoh maybe I shouldn't even answer at
 all here. Nevertheless: Is that an Atom?

Yes.

 If yes than I'm dare to do a
 wild guess: It *might* be normal and resulting from these changes that
 went into 3.5:

 http://git.kernel.org/linus/41e58a1f2b90c88d94b4bd84beb9927a4c2704e9

It seems to me that TJUNCTION for Atom 330 is not set right.
It should be 85000 not 125000.
http://ark.intel.com/products/35641/Intel-Atom-Processor-330-(1M-Cache-1_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB)

Thanks for help! I'll contact with the patch author.
 http://git.kernel.org/linus/fcc14ac1a86931f38da047cf8fb634c6db7b58bc
 http://git.kernel.org/linus/5592906f8b01282ea3c2acaf641fd067ad4bb3dc

 HTH

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Re: F18 DNF and history

2012-06-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/6/22 Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com:
 On 21/06/12 16:54, Michal Schmidt wrote:

 On 06/21/2012 04:27 PM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote:

 Michal Schmidt mschm...@redhat.com writes:

 We do now. You can set clean_requirements_on_remove=1 in yum.conf


 in which version that is supported?


 Since 3.2.28-13
 http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/orphaned-dep-cleanup-in-yum/


 Mea culpa! I have missed we weren't using the 'reason' info we're now
 storing in the yumdb to know what is a dep and what is not which is a
 crucial piece of information.

 Then the curious minds ask ... why clean_requirements_on_remove = 1 isn't a
 default?

+1


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Re: F18 DNF and history

2012-06-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/6/20 Nikola Pajkovsky npajk...@redhat.com:
 Angus Salkeld asalk...@redhat.com writes:

 On 19/06/12 10:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-06-19 at 15:33 +0200, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
 On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF
 
  Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?
 
  According to what is written here
  https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping
  history function will likely be dropped.
 
   From my POV history feature is very useful. Is there a plan to provide
  history function in Fedora dnf if yum gets dropped?
 

 Hi Michal,

 Thanks for pointing this out. I considered history a candidate for
 dropping because I didn't realize people had usecases for it. It is not
 present in the early versions of DNF but I will make sure to put it back
 in later.

Just to add my voice to the choir, I use it extensively and I suspect
many others in QA group too. It's extremely useful when trying to
determine exactly what update caused a given problem.

 Maybe a yum history bisect would be a neat feature?

 nice one, sir


Indeed.

But this should be done on a RPM database copy - bisection should not
leave any traces in the history.

May be something like yum and git merge?

# yum upgrade
[...]
# yum tag -a my_latest_stable_system
# yum upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing
[..]

something went wrong?

# yum checkout my_latest_stable_system
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F18 DNF and history

2012-06-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF

Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?

According to what is written here
https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping
history function will likely be dropped.

From my POV history feature is very useful. Is there a plan to provide
history function in Fedora dnf if yum gets dropped?

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Re: F18 DNF and history

2012-06-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/6/19 Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com:
 On 06/19/2012 02:44 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:

 Hi,

 I have a question about DNF https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF

 Are there any plans to replace yum with dnf in the future?

 According to what is written here
 https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/wiki/Features-Considered-for-Dropping
 history function will likely be dropped.

  From my POV history feature is very useful. Is there a plan to provide
 history function in Fedora dnf if yum gets dropped?


 Hi Michal,

 Thanks for pointing this out. I considered history a candidate for dropping
 because I didn't realize people had usecases for it.

Sometimes it happens that after large update you have something broken
in your system. It's not always clear what could broke the system -
then history function is very useful.

 It is not present in
 the early versions of DNF but I will make sure to put it back in later.

Thank you very much.


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Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-05-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/5/2 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com:
[..]
 So AIUI, you're saying preupgrade wasn't able to add an entry to grub1's
 config for performing the upgrade?

Exactly.

 That could be filed as a bug, though
 it probably wouldn't get high priority unless it also affects F15.

Someone would have to verify it. I can live with this problem :)

It seems that the system so far is working well except for one small
thing - I can not log on to phpPgAdmin. I will have to review the
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Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-05-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/5/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
[..]

 It seems that the system so far is working well except for one small
 thing - I can not log on to phpPgAdmin. I will have to review the
 configuration to determine what caused the problem.


I think that in some way /etc/phpPgAdmin/config.inc.php was silently
changed during update.

$conf['servers'][0]['host'] = 'localhost';
was changed to
$conf['servers'][0]['host'] = '';

I do not know how it happened.

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Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-04-28 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

W dniu 28 kwietnia 2012 09:52 użytkownik Adam Williamson
awill...@redhat.com napisał:
 On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 14:18 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 20:05:50 +0200,
    Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql,
 postgresql?

 I am using F17 on a machine that use postgres and perl scripts (not
 mod_perl though) to generate web pages using apache. Things seem to
 be working fine.

 As long as http://www.happyassassin.net is running, you can take it that
 a basic LAMP stack on F17 is working. =)

Thanks for the info. I'll try to do an update today - if there are any
problems, then I will let you know.

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Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-04-28 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/4/28 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 W dniu 28 kwietnia 2012 09:52 użytkownik Adam Williamson
 awill...@redhat.com napisał:
 On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 14:18 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 20:05:50 +0200,
    Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql,
 postgresql?

 I am using F17 on a machine that use postgres and perl scripts (not
 mod_perl though) to generate web pages using apache. Things seem to
 be working fine.

 As long as http://www.happyassassin.net is running, you can take it that
 a basic LAMP stack on F17 is working. =)

 Thanks for the info. I'll try to do an update today - if there are any
 problems, then I will let you know.

I'm still using grub1 on this machine, so I got small problem

Saving Primary metadata
Saving file lists metadata
Saving other metadata
Generating sqlite DBs
Sqlite DBs complete
Preparing system to boot into installer
DEBUG /sbin/grubby --title=Upgrade to Fedora 17 (Beefy Miracle)
--remove-kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz
--add-kernel=/boot/upgrade/vmlinuz
--initrd=/boot/upgrade/initrd.img --args=preupgrade
repo=hd::/var/cache/yum/preupgrade
ks=hd:UUID=daad74d1-728f-42dc-b4ee-456174f83d99:/boot/upgrade/ks.cfg
stage2=hd:UUID=daad74d1-728f-42dc-b4ee-456174f83d99:/boot/upgrade/squashfs.img
error opening /boot/grub/grub.cfg for read: No such file or directory
Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
All finished. The upgrade will begin when you reboot.

I added this config to grub menu manually and performed update. After
update I still have 297 packages to update with yum. I think it was
outdated mirror or something like that.

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F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-04-26 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

W dniu 9 kwietnia 2012 17:46 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 Hi,

 2012/4/5 Robyn Bergeron rberg...@redhat.com:
 At the Go/No-Go meeting it was decided to slip the Beta by an additional
[..]
 * Blockers  (rbergeron, 15:16:41)


 If I remember correctly, those were some problems with preupgrade due to the
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove
 feature.

 Is it possible to upgrade now from F16 to F17 with preupgrade?



Has anyone tried to preupgrade from F16 to F17? Are there any problems
related to UsrMove (or anything else)?


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Re: F16-F17 preupgrade (Re: F17 Beta to slip by an additional week.)

2012-04-26 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/4/26 Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com:
 On 26/04/12 18:50, Michał Piotrowski wrote:


 Is it possible to upgrade now from F16 to F17 with preupgrade?



 Has anyone tried to preupgrade from F16 to F17? Are there any problems
 related to UsrMove (or anything else)?



 I did it two days ago.
 No problems KVM Guest GPT formatted.
 F16.Xfce.x86_64  preupgrade F17

 No usrmove problems noticed.

Cool, I'll try to do the update over the weekend.

I reviewed the list of blockers, and I don't see anything scary
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers

Are there any serious known problems with apache, python, php, mysql,
postgresql?


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Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-04-03 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/3/29 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de:
 On 03/28/2012 07:39 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,

 2012/3/28 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de:
 On 03/27/2012 09:46 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 W dniu 21 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
 mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
 [..]
 There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other
 modules that add support for the protocol.

 I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference.

 Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this?

 I wanted to write Who can adopt mod_spdy :)

 I created a feature page
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18SPDY

 If someone accidentally did not know what SPDY is - there is a link to
 interesting video from GoogleTechTalks on this page.

 I also created an initial version of spec file for mod_spdy that can
 be found at this repo https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy


 That mod_ssl_with_npn.so hack looks pretty dodgy to me. Does that even
 work? Have you tested this together with the regular mod_ssl that comes
 with the httpd package?

 I've got some problems with getting it to work.

 I cannot see how both modules can coexist.

 I think that it is not possible.


 As far as I can tell the patch required to mod_ssl is fairly simple and it
 looks like it will be committed to upstream soon:
 https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52210

 You could ask the maintainer of the httpd package what he thinks about
 adding this patch to the package so the modified mod_ssl is no longer 
 required.

I asked for inclusion of this patch
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=809599

I hope the request will be positively considered :)


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Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-04-03 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

W dniu 28 marca 2012 19:39 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 Hi,

 2012/3/28 Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de:
 On 03/27/2012 09:46 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 W dniu 21 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
 mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
 [..]
 There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other
 modules that add support for the protocol.

 I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference.

 Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this?

 I wanted to write Who can adopt mod_spdy :)

 I created a feature page
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18SPDY

 If someone accidentally did not know what SPDY is - there is a link to
 interesting video from GoogleTechTalks on this page.

 I also created an initial version of spec file for mod_spdy that can
 be found at this repo https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy


 That mod_ssl_with_npn.so hack looks pretty dodgy to me. Does that even
 work? Have you tested this together with the regular mod_ssl that comes
 with the httpd package?

 I've got some problems with getting it to work.


I am pleased to announce that Fedora has working mod_spdy :)

https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy

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Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/27 Joe Orton jor...@redhat.com:
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 03:09:08PM -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
 Once upon a time, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net said:
  The following is going to kill pretty much every packaged webapp unless 
  they
  are changed now:
 
  https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html#access

 Did you read this part:

   The old access control idioms should be replaced by the new
    authentication mechanisms, although for compatibility with old
    configurations, the new module mod_access_compat is provided.

 It would be easy to include mod_access_compat in the Fedora default
 config for a release or two while the compat config is deprecated (and
 noted in the release notes as such).

 Yup - the default config in the f18 httpd does load mod_access_compat,
 and I don't see a problem with shipping like that.

Great.

Backward compatibility is a good thing.


 It would be good to convert webapps over for f18, having said that.

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Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-27 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 21 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
[..]
 There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other
 modules that add support for the protocol.

 I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference.

 Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this?

I wanted to write Who can adopt mod_spdy :)

I created a feature page
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18SPDY

If someone accidentally did not know what SPDY is - there is a link to
interesting video from GoogleTechTalks on this page.

I also created an initial version of spec file for mod_spdy that can
be found at this repo https://github.com/eventhorizonpl/mod_spdy

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Re: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info) 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!

2012-03-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/23 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at:
 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 I tried to build mod_spdy and I hit this
 Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460:
 elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info)  0x)
 == 8' failed!

 I get this when I try to build even a simple hello world program.

 I checked RAM with memtest86+ (I've got a new RAM module) and it's fine.

 Does anyone have an idea how can I check what causes this problem?

 The nvidia driver.

Not this time.


 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751891

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Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-03-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/3/23 Joe Orton jor...@redhat.com:
 httpd 2.4.1 packages are ready for dist-f18 and will be built early next
 week.  Rebuilds will be required for all packages containing httpd
 modules.  There are API changes in 2.4, so module packages may need
 patches if upstream has not done that work already:

 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/developer/new_api_2_4.html

 There are some significant changes in the packaging, also:

 1) Config changes: I've moved to a minimal default httpd.conf which is
 very close to what we're shipping upstream.

 a) I'm proposing to split out packaged config snippets from mutable
 config, with the former in /etc/httpd/conf.modules.d/, containing only
 LoadModule lines, and ordered to avoid load-ordering issues.

 b) /etc/httpd/conf.d/*.conf should contain no LoadModules for packaged
 modules, and only any reasonable default configurations.

+1 for configuration changes


 2) Loadable MPMs!  MPMs are now loadable modules, so we only need to
 ship one httpd binary again.  Changing MPM is a config tweak.

 3) Content.  Putting unmutable content in /var was bad practice, so I've
 moved the /var/www/manual and /var/www/icons to into /usr/share/httpd.
 We now ship /var/www/* as empty directories.

 4) Filesystem locations have moved in-line with upstream, e.g. apxs is
 now in /usr/bin.  /etc/rpm/httpd.macros has macros for everything module
 packages should need.

 Since much of the above requires packaging changes for module packages,
 I've prepared a draft packaging guideline to document best practice:

 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/ApacheHTTPModules

 If anything there looks stupid, needs fixing, is missing, or there's any
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Re: Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info) 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!

2012-03-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/22 John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com:
 Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460:
 elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info)  0x)
 == 8' failed!

 Find the .o file which is being processed at the time of the complaint.

.o file is not even generated

[michal@ozzy src]$ LANG=C make BUILDTYPE=Release
  CXX(target) 
out/Release/obj.target/base/third_party/chromium/src/base/string16.o
Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460:
elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc-r_info)  0x)
== 8' failed!
make: *** [out/Release/obj.target/base/third_party/chromium/src/base/string16.o]
Error 2
[michal@ozzy src]$ ls out/Release/obj.target/base/third_party/chromium/src/base/
[michal@ozzy src]$



 If necessary, then use the --trace option to ld.
 Run readelf --relocs on that file, and see if they are all OK.
 If not, then you have found a compiler problem.
 If all the relocations look OK, then use valgrind to check ld.

 As always, try to reduce the number and size of input files
 which trigger the problem.  What is the smallest case which
 generates the complaint?

I tried to build hello word

#include stdio.h

int main(void)
{
printf(test\n);

return 0;
}

and it fails.

It seems to me that I have something really wrong with C/C++
toolchain. I do not remember when I last build C/C++ application on
this system - it's very possible that it was before F15 realease.

I assume that there may be some error during the some upgrade.


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Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-21 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 13 marca 2012 21:59 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com:
 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17
 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html
 ?

 This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice features.

 Not likely this late in the cycle, though the timing is great for f18.

 How about SPDY support?
 http://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/

 Firefox supports SPDY
 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/spdy-brings-responsive-and-scalable-transport-to-firefox-11/

 If there are any work in progress packages for mod_spdy I would like
 to help test them :)



From now Jetty server also supports SPDY
http://webtide.intalio.com/2012/03/spdy-support-in-jetty/


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Re: SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-21 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/21 Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com:
 2012/3/13 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com:
 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17
 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html
 ?

 This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice 
 features.

 Not likely this late in the cycle, though the timing is great for f18.

 How about SPDY support?
 http://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/

 Firefox supports SPDY
 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/spdy-brings-responsive-and-scalable-transport-to-firefox-11/

 If there are any work in progress packages for mod_spdy I would like
 to help test them :)

 There's nothing stopping you from packaging up mod_spdy or any other
 modules that add support for the protocol.

I will try tomorrow - I've got mod_fcgid package sources for reference.

Who can mod_spdy if I make the spec file for this?


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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com:
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 On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote:
 On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/17/2012 05:38 AM,
 Matej Cepl wrote:
 On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 Here is the current httpd man page.

 http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/httpd_selinux.html




 OK, in the end it IS a wiki ...
 http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout?action=diffrev1=46rev2=47






 Suggestions for further edits are welcome.

 Matěj

 I would also suggest they use setroubleshoot.

 Suggesting setroubleshoot is fine but you need to also tell them
 how to set it up when they are running without X. One guy told me
 that setroubleshoot is fine and all but all his machines are
 headless so he doesn't have X and the nice little applet to notify
 him. I had to correct him and send him a reference to your page on
 how to set up setroubleshoot on headless machines so that the
 messages are sent to another box or to an email account.

 Dave


 Which brings up an interesting idea, I have been having, is there a
 better way of getting the setroubleshoot data from one machine to
 another.  Originally setroubleshoot was designed to be able to push
 analysys upstream but we never turned it on.  Now that we have
 simplified the XML output, we could look at allowing it to some how
 centralize its analysys, using a protocol more robust then email  If
 anyone has a good idea of how or where we should do this, I am all ears.

Is it possible to split setroubleshoot into two components:
- gui
- daemon that creates logs
?

Logs can be stored in systemd-journal format. systemd-journal should
have ability to forward logs on other machines.


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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:27 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh
dwa...@redhat.com napisał:
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 On 03/19/2012 10:16 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 W dniu 19 marca 2012 15:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
 mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2012/3/19 Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com:
 On 03/17/2012 11:25 PM, Dave Quigley wrote:
 On 3/17/2012 7:17 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 03/17/2012
 05:38 AM, Matej Cepl wrote:
 On 17.3.2012 10:18, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 Here is the current httpd man page.

 http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/httpd_selinux.html






 OK, in the end it IS a wiki ...
 http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout?action=diffrev1=46rev2=47








 Suggestions for further edits are welcome.

 Matěj

 I would also suggest they use setroubleshoot.

 Suggesting setroubleshoot is fine but you need to also tell
 them how to set it up when they are running without X. One
 guy told me that setroubleshoot is fine and all but all his
 machines are headless so he doesn't have X and the nice
 little applet to notify him. I had to correct him and send
 him a reference to your page on how to set up
 setroubleshoot on headless machines so that the messages
 are sent to another box or to an email account.

 Dave


 Which brings up an interesting idea, I have been having, is there
 a better way of getting the setroubleshoot data from one machine
 to another.  Originally setroubleshoot was designed to be able to
 push analysys upstream but we never turned it on.  Now that we
 have simplified the XML output, we could look at allowing it to
 some how centralize its analysys, using a protocol more robust then
 email  If anyone has a good idea of how or where we should do this,
 I am all ears.

 Is it possible to split setroubleshoot into two components: -
 gui - daemon that creates logs ?

 I really did not use setroubleshoot for a few years - because I
 don't use X, so please forgive my ignorance if it's already
 splited :)

 setroubleshoot-server is the server componant. (dbus service)
 setroubleshoot is the client componant.

 We could put the info into systemd-journal.

It would be great if there was a possibility to send logs to other machines.

Lennart, what do you think about it? Centralized log system is nice feature.


 Logs can be stored in systemd-journal format. systemd-journal
 should have ability to forward logs on other machines.


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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/19 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com:
 Daniel J Walsh wrote:

 We could put the info into systemd-journal.


 Back when sendmail and logwatch were part of the default install, it would
 have been nice to have SELinux activity reported in it. I still use logwatch
 so it would still be useful for me to see log data there.

Logwatch is great thing and I use it every day. But the problem is if
you have multiple machines - you need to review a number of emails
every day. So it seems to me that centralized log system would be
great feature for large networks.


 Unless, of course, logwatch is obsolete and there's some new, flashy systemd
 mail log that I'm supposed to be using that I wasn't told of.

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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-19 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/19 Michael Cronenworth m...@cchtml.com:
 Michał Piotrowski wrote:

 Logwatch is great thing and I use it every day. But the problem is if
 you have multiple machines - you need to review a number of emails
 every day. So it seems to me that centralized log system would be
 great feature for large networks.


 What's the difference between separate emails and one gigantic email? Or
 perhaps I have misunderstood what you mean by centralized log system.

I mean that was a possibility to have logs from all machines in
network on one machine. I did not mean to keep it all in one log.


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Re: Bug 803646- Password is visible on gnome-terminal

2012-03-16 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/3/16 Anish Patil apa...@redhat.com:

 Hi,

 The description of the bug says  With English-typing-booster enabled on 
 gnome-terminal, while using su- command, password appears in the text.
 English typing booster is IBUS-IME for english language.

 Any thoughts or comments regrading solution will be appreciated.

April Fools' Day? :)


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Re: F16 problems with git

2012-03-14 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/14 Nikola Pajkovsky npajk...@redhat.com:
 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi,

 I noticed recently a worrying git behavior. I often do something like that:
 git fsck --full
 git gc
 git push origin master | backup of the entire tree in tar archive

 'git fsck' or 'git gc' sometimes causes damage to the repository ie:

 $ git fsck --full
 error: packed 694728b9fe62ad667f051a109c389403ffa0cb29 from
 .git/objects/pack/pack-a4bae2576b36116f1962a5496674ea921eebb6c5.pack
 is corrupt

 This time, however, after 'git fsck' rerun I don't get this error
 message, but in other cases, the repository is corrupted. Has anyone
 noticed similar problems with git on F16?

 Linus wrote nice document about recovering corrupted blob

 http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/git.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/howto/recover-corrupted-blob-object.txt;h=323b513ed0e0ce8b749672f589a375073a050b97;hb=HEAD

Thanks for sharing this link. This is a lot of git magic and I prefer
to do backups :)

The most common cause of corruption so far has been memory
corruption - it gives me food for thought.

I am using the SSD with Ext4 - I checked it recently with fsck.ext4
-cvf, it may also be useful to check RAM.


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F16 problems with git

2012-03-13 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I noticed recently a worrying git behavior. I often do something like that:
git fsck --full
git gc
git push origin master | backup of the entire tree in tar archive

'git fsck' or 'git gc' sometimes causes damage to the repository ie:

$ git fsck --full
error: packed 694728b9fe62ad667f051a109c389403ffa0cb29 from
.git/objects/pack/pack-a4bae2576b36116f1962a5496674ea921eebb6c5.pack
is corrupt

This time, however, after 'git fsck' rerun I don't get this error
message, but in other cases, the repository is corrupted. Has anyone
noticed similar problems with git on F16?

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SPDY in F18 (was Re: F17 httpd 2.4?)

2012-03-13 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/2/21 Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com:
 2012/2/21 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17
 http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html
 ?

 This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice features.

 Not likely this late in the cycle, though the timing is great for f18.

How about SPDY support?
http://code.google.com/p/mod-spdy/

Firefox supports SPDY
http://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/spdy-brings-responsive-and-scalable-transport-to-firefox-11/

If there are any work in progress packages for mod_spdy I would like
to help test them :)



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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/6 Paul Wouters pwout...@redhat.com:
 On Tue, 6 Mar 2012, Daniel J Walsh wrote:

 Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be
 honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user
 POV.

 Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config.


 Or the more obvious place for people with /etc/sysconfig hardcoded in
 their brain, /etc/sysconfig/selinux :)

 Though to be honest, F17 is the first version where I have been working
 with selinux enabled for more then two days. In fact, I have left it
 enabled since I installed F17 weeks ago.

 I think the only somewhat valid reason to disabled selinux is if people
 are using special directories they made up, eg /vol or /opt or anything.
 (or when copying/dealing with /var/lib/libvirtd/images content in other
  locations :)

I do a lot of stupid things on my development systems. Some things I keep
in /home/data, I've got many /home/samba* dirs and project dirs in
/home/michal/projekty that need to be shared on samba and need to
be accesible by httpd servers. I never had time to deal with SELinux on
development system :)


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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/6 Pádraig Brady p...@draigbrady.com:
 On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,

 I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on F17. I
 checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read
 /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I
 found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for
 GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. I found file: /etc/default/grub

 Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be
 honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user
 POV.

 Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config.

 There are subtle differences with doing that apparently.
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2012-02/msg00176.html

Once I had a problem to disable SELinux through /etc/sysconfig/selinux
- there was a problem with the policy, systemd releated or something
like that. So I use big hammer - selinux=0.


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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 6 marca 2012 17:49 użytkownik Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com napisał:
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 On 03/06/2012 11:38 AM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 2012/3/6 Pádraig Brady p...@draigbrady.com:
 On 03/06/2012 04:21 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
 On 03/05/2012 03:20 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,

 I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on
 F17. I checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started
 to read /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user
 friendly..) and I found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped
 /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX. I found file: /etc/default/grub

 Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To
 be honest - it's not really user friendly from long time RH
 Linux user POV.

 Just disable SELinux in /etc/selinux/config.

 There are subtle differences with doing that apparently.
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/coreutils/2012-02/msg00176.html


 Once I had a problem to disable SELinux through
 /etc/sysconfig/selinux - there was a problem with the policy,
 systemd releated or something like that. So I use big hammer -
 selinux=0.


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 I hope this does not get taken out of context.

 SLASHDOT/Dan Walsh says disable SELinux.  :^)

 You should try to run with SELinux on or in permissive mode.

Now I have a laptop with CPU that is virtualization capable, so if I
find a little more free time I'll try to prepare configuration on VM.


 But if you feel you have to disable SELinux, use the config file.   If
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/etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on F17. I
checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read
/etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I
found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX.
I found file:
/etc/default/grub

Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest -
it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV.

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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/5 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com:
 Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) said:
 I wanted to add selinux=0 to the kernel command line on F17. I
 checked /etc/sysconfig/, /etc/grub.d/, next I started to read
 /etc/grub.d/10_linux (this new grub2 is so user friendly..) and I
 found ${GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX}. So I grepped /etc for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX.
 I found file:
 /etc/default/grub

 Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest -
 it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV.

 shadow-utils and glibc have been using /etc/default since 2004, at least.
 I suppose it depends on the package...

Agrees. But somehow I never have a need to configure glibc :) Grub
configuration is more frequent task.


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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/3/5 Lars Seipel lars.sei...@googlemail.com:
 On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest -
 it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV.

 It's what upstream uses. See
 http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration

 Changing it would invalidate upstream documentation for Fedora users.

Simple link to /etc/sysconfig/ will solve the problem.


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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 5 marca 2012 21:40 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2012/3/5 Lars Seipel lars.sei...@googlemail.com:
 On Monday 05 March 2012 21:20:12 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Why /etc/default dir is used instead of /etc/sysconfig? To be honest -
 it's not really user friendly from long time RH Linux user POV.

 It's what upstream uses. See
 http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration

 Changing it would invalidate upstream documentation for Fedora users.

 Simple link to /etc/sysconfig/ will solve the problem.

I created the bug report for this
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=800152


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Re: phoronix benchmarks ext4 vs. btrfs

2012-03-02 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2012/3/2 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
 Be careful what you wish for.  btrfs is not a clear win on performance.

More frightening benchmarks are shown here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegjLbCnoBw

This does not surprise me. Btrfs has more features than Ext4, so it
may be slower.

If anyone wants Btrfs as default FS for Fedora I have nothing against
- it is a very good file system. For the next few years I will
continue to use Ext3/4 on my systems.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_33_btrfsnum=1

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Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

W dniu 20 lutego 2012 19:52 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2012/2/20 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com:
 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
   Hi,
  
   W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
   mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
    Hi,
   
    I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please
    see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0
    process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I
    used git fsck --full or git gc commands.
   
  
   I've got the same problem on 3.2.6-3.fc16. Any ideas what might be
   happening? I turned off the swap partition to see if this help.

 Is this happening inside a virtual guest ?

 No, this system runs on Intel Atom 330 D945GCLF2.


This time it looks different - it happened while system upgrade. Swap
is disabled.

Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0
stuck for 22s! [yum:13288]
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Modules linked in:
smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp serio_raw i2c_i801 iTCO_wdt
iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si
l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded:
scsi_wait_scan]
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] CPU 0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Modules linked in:
smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp serio_raw i2c_i801 iTCO_wdt
iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si
l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded:
scsi_wait_scan]
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Pid: 13288, comm: yum Not
tainted 3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 #1  /D945GCLF2
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RIP:
0010:[8118ef33]  [8118ef33]
shrink_dentry_list+0xc3/0x1e0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RSP: :8800761b1888
 EFLAGS: 0282
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RAX: 8a418a41 RBX:
00311ca8 RCX: 0a32
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RDX: 8a41 RSI:
8800667add80 RDI: 8800667adddc
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] RBP: 8800761b18d8 R08:
8800761b1908 R09: 88007f64dc38
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] R10: 00311ca8 R11:
0001 R12: 8112b64a
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] R13: 8800761b18d8 R14:
ea0001d38000 R15: ea0001d37fc0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] FS:
7f3d3109a700() GS:88007f20()
knlGS:
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] CS:  0010 DS:  ES:
 CR0: 80050033
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] CR2: 7f3d1c2c7000 CR3:
37a7b000 CR4: 06f0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] DR0:  DR1:
 DR2: 
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] DR3:  DR6:
0ff0 DR7: 0400
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Process yum (pid: 13288,
threadinfo 8800761b, task 880079829720)
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Stack:
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  0080
8800667add80 00040004 880042770080
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  88004274a95c
880042770080 88004277005c 880076b7c800
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  
880076b7c8e0 8800761b1948 8118fc11
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Call Trace:
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8118fc11]
prune_dcache_sb+0x121/0x140
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8117c060]
prune_super+0x130/0x1a0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8112bab4]
shrink_slab+0x154/0x310
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8112e760]
do_try_to_free_pages+0x3e0/0x4c0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8112eb1b]
try_to_free_pages+0xab/0x170
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [81122e3a]
__alloc_pages_nodemask+0x50a/0x890
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8115b3da]
alloc_pages_vma+0x9a/0x150
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8113f3c2]
handle_pte_fault+0x722/0xac0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [811f439f] ?
ext4_file_write+0xbf/0x260
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [8113fb18]
handle_mm_fault+0x1f8/0x350
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [815e5312]
do_page_fault+0x142/0x4f0
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [81179000] ?
vfs_write+0x110/0x180
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009]  [815e20b5]
page_fault+0x25/0x30
Feb 24 08:43:08 ozzy kernel: [33076.030009] Code: 10 49 8d bf 80 Feb
24 08:50:47 ozzy kernel: imklog 5.8.7, log source = /proc/kmsg
started.


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Re: F16 how to install less ruby gem?

2012-02-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/2/21 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com:
 Dne 21.2.2012 18:30, Michał Piotrowski napsal(a):

 Hi,

 I want to install less gem. I switched to root account, and typed

 # gem install less
 Fetching: therubyracer-0.9.10.gem (100%)
 Building native extensions.  This could take a while...

 ...

 And it's all - install process stops. When I check what is happening
 with ps I get

 ps -aux :
 root     18047  0.0  0.1 166076  2164 pts/1    S    18:15   0:00 su
 root     18048  0.0  0.1 116496  2144 pts/1    S    18:15   0:00 bash
 root     18062  6.1  3.7 129296 77444 pts/1    S+   18:15   0:16
 /usr/bin/ruby /usr/bin/gem install less
 root     18408  0.0  0.0 107084  1000 pts/1    S+   18:16   0:00 make
 root     18409  0.0  0.0 107124   816 pts/1    S+   18:16   0:00 g++
 -I. -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include
 -I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux
 -I. -Wall -g -rdynamic -fPIC -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
 -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
 --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -fno-strict-aliasing
 -fPIC -c v8_value.cpp
 root     18410  0.3  1.0 147628 21780 pts/1    S+   18:16   0:00
 /usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/cc1plus -quiet -I . -I
 /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include -I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux
 -I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I . -D_GNU_SOURCE
 -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 v8_value.cpp -quiet -dumpbase v8_value.cpp -m64
 -mtune=generic -march=x86-64 -auxbase v8_value -g -g -O2 -Wall
 -fexceptions -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC --param
 ssp-buffer-size=4 -o -
 root     18411  0.0  0.0      0     0 pts/1    Z+   18:16   0:00
 [as]defunct

 It seems that as is in zombie state. Could anyone advise where to
 start looking for the solution to this problem?
 Where it can be a problem? Gem itself or toolchain?


 The problem will be the gem and its dependencies probably. Since the
 therubyracer gem bundles v8 javascript engine, it may take some time to
 compile. The /ext directory of the therubyracer gem might be of interest to
 you.

I'll try to build it manually - without gem scripts.


 However, since this is nice example of bundling, I would suggest you to take
 a look for some alternative to less gem.

I need lessc with --compress option to build bootstrap framework. I'm
not sure if less gem is appropriate for this task, but I wanted to
try it.



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Re: F16 how to install less ruby gem?

2012-02-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/2/22 T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com:
 2012/2/22 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 I need lessc with --compress option to build bootstrap framework. I'm
 not sure if less gem is appropriate for this task, but I wanted to
 try it.

 The canonical version of lessc is written for node.js.  Looks like the
 ruby gem just runs that through some sort of node/v8 interpreter for
 Ruby.  It's probably a lot easier just to run it through node itself.

 I build node packages personally for now until I can whip it into
 shape for Fedora (which will be F18 or Node v0.8, whichever comes
 last.  I have patches for the 0.7 development branch almost ready to
 send upstream :-):
 http://nodejs.tchol.org/

 Enable the repository, then just `yum install nodejs-compat-symlinks
 npm` and `npm install -g less`.

Thank you very much - this is exactly what I needed :)


 (You can also rebuild the SRPMs if you don't trust me, but then you
 still have the whole building V8 problem. ;-)

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F16 how to install less ruby gem?

2012-02-21 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I want to install less gem. I switched to root account, and typed

# gem install less
Fetching: therubyracer-0.9.10.gem (100%)
Building native extensions.  This could take a while...

...

And it's all - install process stops. When I check what is happening
with ps I get

ps -aux :
root 18047  0.0  0.1 166076  2164 pts/1S18:15   0:00 su
root 18048  0.0  0.1 116496  2144 pts/1S18:15   0:00 bash
root 18062  6.1  3.7 129296 77444 pts/1S+   18:15   0:16
/usr/bin/ruby /usr/bin/gem install less
root 18408  0.0  0.0 107084  1000 pts/1S+   18:16   0:00 make
root 18409  0.0  0.0 107124   816 pts/1S+   18:16   0:00 g++
-I. -I/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include
-I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I/usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux
-I. -Wall -g -rdynamic -fPIC -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -fno-strict-aliasing
-fPIC -c v8_value.cpp
root 18410  0.3  1.0 147628 21780 pts/1S+   18:16   0:00
/usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.2/cc1plus -quiet -I . -I
/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/libv8/v8/include -I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux
-I /usr/lib64/ruby/1.8/x86_64-linux -I . -D_GNU_SOURCE
-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 v8_value.cpp -quiet -dumpbase v8_value.cpp -m64
-mtune=generic -march=x86-64 -auxbase v8_value -g -g -O2 -Wall
-fexceptions -fstack-protector -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC --param
ssp-buffer-size=4 -o -
root 18411  0.0  0.0  0 0 pts/1Z+   18:16   0:00 [as] defunct

It seems that as is in zombie state. Could anyone advise where to
start looking for the solution to this problem?
Where it can be a problem? Gem itself or toolchain?

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F17 httpd 2.4?

2012-02-21 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Is there a chance to get httpd 2.4 in Fedora 17
http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/Announcement2.4.html
?

This is the first major release from a few years and has some nice features.

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Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 Hi,

 I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please
 see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0
 process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I
 used git fsck --full or git gc commands.


I've got the same problem on 3.2.6-3.fc16. Any ideas what might be
happening? I turned off the swap partition to see if this help.

Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102007] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#1
stuck for 23s! [kswapd0:36]
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Modules linked in:
smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp i2c_i801 serio_raw iTCO_wdt
iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si
l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded:
scsi_wait_scan]
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] CPU 1
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Modules linked in:
smsc47m192 hwmon_vid coretemp i2c_i801 serio_raw iTCO_wdt
iTCO_vendor_support r8169 mii sata_si
l i915 drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core video [last unloaded:
scsi_wait_scan]
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Pid: 36, comm: kswapd0 Not
tainted 3.2.6-3.fc16.x86_64 #1  /D945GCLF2
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RIP:
0010:[815e18b1]  [815e18b1]
_raw_spin_trylock+0x1/0x40
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RSP: 0018:88007834bb60
 EFLAGS: 0282
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RAX: 9d689d68 RBX:
880042762700 RCX: 0014
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RDX: 9d68 RSI:
88004271bcc0 RDI: 880042762390
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] RBP: 88007834bbc0 R08:
880042762ad8 R09: c900
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] R10:  R11:
0002 R12: 88007834bb00
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] R13: 0282 R14:
88007834bb00 R15: 88007f293780
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] FS:
() GS:88007f28()
knlGS:
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] CS:  0010 DS:  ES:
 CR0: 8005003b
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] CR2: 7f4f3961e000 CR3:
01a05000 CR4: 06e0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] DR0:  DR1:
 DR2: 
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] DR3:  DR6:
0ff0 DR7: 0400
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Process kswapd0 (pid: 36,
threadinfo 88007834a000, task 88007b63c560)
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Stack:
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  88007834bbc0
8118ef15 0240 88004271bcc0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  88007834bba0
88004271c140 ff04 88004272d500
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  88004272d4dc
880076191800  8800761918e0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Call Trace:
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8118ef15] ?
shrink_dentry_list+0xa5/0x1e0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8118fc11]
prune_dcache_sb+0x121/0x140
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8117c060]
prune_super+0x130/0x1a0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8112bab4]
shrink_slab+0x154/0x310
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8112f22a]
balance_pgdat+0x4fa/0x6c0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8112f568]
kswapd+0x178/0x3d0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [815df2c4] ?
__schedule+0x3d4/0x8c0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [81090440] ?
remove_wait_queue+0x50/0x50
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8112f3f0] ?
balance_pgdat+0x6c0/0x6c0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8108fb9c]
kthread+0x8c/0xa0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [815ebaf4]
kernel_thread_helper+0x4/0x10
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8108fb10] ?
kthread_worker_fn+0x190/0x190
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [815ebaf0] ?
gs_change+0x13/0x13
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Code: 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00
00 00 00 55 48 c7 c2 ff ff ff ff be 01 00 00 00 48 89 e5 e8 8b fe ff
ff 5d c3 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 90 55 48 89 e5 66 66 66 66 90 8b 17
31 c0 89 d1 c1 e9 10 66 39 ca 74
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008] Call Trace:
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8118ef15] ?
shrink_dentry_list+0xa5/0x1e0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8118fc11]
prune_dcache_sb+0x121/0x140
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8117c060]
prune_super+0x130/0x1a0
Feb 20 18:18:47 ozzy kernel: [33356.102008]  [8112bab4]
shrink_slab+0x154/0x310
Feb 20

Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-02-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/2/20 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com:
 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 06:39:54PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
   Hi,
  
   W dniu 7 stycznia 2012 16:34 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
   mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
    Hi,
   
    I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please
    see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0
    process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I
    used git fsck --full or git gc commands.
   
  
   I've got the same problem on 3.2.6-3.fc16. Any ideas what might be
   happening? I turned off the swap partition to see if this help.

 Is this happening inside a virtual guest ?

No, this system runs on Intel Atom 330 D945GCLF2.


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glibc policy chage?

2012-02-06 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I noticed that F17 is based on the latest stable glibc realease.
Previously development Fedora version was based on development glibc.
Was there a change of some Fedora glibc policy? If it is no
coincidence, but the new policy - many thanks for the change :)

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F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes

2012-01-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Microsoft has changed the way of prerelease version naming
Alpha - Developer Preview
Beta - Consumer Preview
Release Candidate - Enterprise (or Business) Preview

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-beta-may-be-called-the-consumer-preview

It seems to me that this is a very good change for reasons of PR. Such
change in Fedora prerelease naming might encourage more people to test
prereleases. IMHO Consumer Preview sounds a lot better than Beta
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Re: F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes

2012-01-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/1/25 Jos Vos j...@xos.nl:
 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 10:22:37AM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:

 Microsoft has changed the way of prerelease version naming
 Alpha - Developer Preview
 Beta - Consumer Preview
 Release Candidate - Enterprise (or Business) Preview

 http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-beta-may-be-called-the-consumer-preview

 It seems to me that this is a very good change for reasons of PR. Such
 change in Fedora prerelease naming might encourage more people to test
 prereleases. IMHO Consumer Preview sounds a lot better than Beta
 :)

 I think the words alpha, beta and RC say exactly what it is.  It's bad
 to have people install consumer previews and expecting things they
 won't get, such as upgradabilty,

I do not quite understand what you mean.

 stability, etc.

I do not think that people will expect high stability from consumer preview.


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Re: F17 proposal - prerelease version name changes

2012-01-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2012/1/25 Jos Vos j...@xos.nl:
 On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 12:01:07PM +0100, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote:

 I don't think Fedora is for 'consumers'. Due to the policy to not
 include many non-free components and missing apps from main repos, I
 don't consider it a consumer OS. I tried it myself and also tried to put
 it on average user's PCs but it refuse to work as a consumer OS should
 work. I still can't boot Fedora 16 on my PC.

 Yes, it is a superbly great developer OS.

 I don't completely agree with you (and who says you can't install
 additional non-free components on top of an OS?), but an even bigger
 problem would then be the enterprise/business preview naming

Indeed, enterprise/business is not the Fedora realm.

 (although
 I *do* install/maintain Fedora as a desktop for business customers,
 as RHEL c.s. just contains too old software for some desktop users).

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F17/rawhide uninstallable for 48 days?

2012-01-23 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I want to install rawhide on one laptop. I tried to use TC1 netinst image
(http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Alpha.TC1/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-17-Alpha-x86_64-netinst.iso),
but it fails on:
ImportError: No module named errors

I tried to use xfce live cd
(http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3725264), but I
see the same error.

This error was reported at 2011-12-06
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=760786
and possibly fixed at 2011-12-22.

More than a month has passed since problem was fixed. I do not
understand why fixed version wasn't
build for f17/rawhide.

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Re: F16 Linux 3.1 soft lockups

2012-01-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I've noticed some strange soft lockup behaviour on my system (please
see the attachment). Soft lockup appears to be caused by kswapd0
process. It seems to me that in both cases this error occured when I
used git fsck --full or git gc commands.

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Re: MATE desktop environment (GNOME 2 fork)

2011-12-09 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

What do you think about Trinity Desktop? I liked KDE3. Is there a
chance to include this DE in Fedora? Unlike the MATE, TD is well
maintained and there is a development community.

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F16 possible glibc 2.14.90-19 problems

2011-11-29 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

I've got 15 daemons writen in python that run php tasks. When I start
all daemons I see a lot of segfaults in logs.

[137969.485410] php[23201]: segfault at 50018 ip 005910d9
sp 7fff4160bd90 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[138037.623654] php[23469]: segfault at bc072fa35 ip 005910d9
sp 7fffd0fda110 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[138189.585367] php[24055]: segfault at 17f73 ip 005910d9
sp 7fffbe262110 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[138447.809834] php[25042] general protection ip:5bcc8d
sp:7fff0aeac680 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[138526.771017] php[25274] general protection ip:5a1d94
sp:7fffe2e11850 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[139180.948140] php[27884] general protection ip:5910d9
sp:7fffd9708f30 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[139476.383179] php[28974] general protection ip:5910d9
sp:7fffd3cdd460 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[139485.007395] php[28902]: segfault at bc0dcc21c ip 005910d9
sp 7fffcf113cb0 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[139860.124330] php[30470]: segfault at 14 ip 7f515ba0c7d8 sp
7fff64d4a2d0 error 4 in ld-2.14.90.so[7f515b9f8000+22000]
[139911.992581] php[30706]: segfault at 0 ip 7fc84670ac34 sp
7fff40d61168 error 4 in libc-2.14.90.so[7fc84668a000+1aa000]
[14.293107] php[31001] general protection ip:5a1d91
sp:7fff31d74e40 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[140085.313565] php[31380]: segfault at 0 ip 7fbc81bd5c34 sp
7fffe711a248 error 4 in libc-2.14.90.so[7fbc81b55000+1aa000]
[140120.294446] php[31548] general protection ip:5910d9
sp:774b5020 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[140270.083455] php[32167]: segfault at 0 ip 005ac672 sp
7fff4c80b1f0 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[140274.462653] php[32184]: segfault at 4 ip 005bd4e9 sp
7fff71035ae0 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[140305.552332] php[32258]: segfault at 416f6681 ip 005cd749
sp 7fffdb040c10 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[140343.753005] php[32471] general protection ip:5910d9
sp:7fff22a9dc50 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[140386.823934] php[32590] general protection ip:5a1d91
sp:7fff3f3b8cf0 error:0 in php[40+2ca000]
[140396.070389] php[32649]: segfault at 69027d11e4 ip 005911be
sp 7fff2fc46b80 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]
[140408.000815] php[32718]: segfault at 10 ip 005a1d94 sp
7fffaf578200 error 4 in php[40+2ca000]

This problem occurs on glibc 2.14.90-19, after downgrade to 2.14.90-14
problem disappeared.


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Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-08 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/11/8 Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com:
 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system?

 Checkout http://www.freedesktop.org/software/colord/ for details about
 the project.

I know what colord is intended for and I think this is really cool for
desktop. I began to wonder why do I need it on my machine, because
this system has no lcd panel attached - I'm accessing it through ssh.


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why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system?

My system is ordinary web developer box with php, python, postgresql,
mysql, memcached, cherokee, httpd etc. Colord was installed because of
dependencies. But I would like to know why I need this package? My
system worked without any problems without it for a few releases and
now this package is installed, despite the fact that I have not even
x.org installed.

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Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/11/8 Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com:
 2011/11/7 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
 Hi,

 Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system?

 My system is ordinary web developer box with php, python, postgresql,
 mysql, memcached, cherokee, httpd etc. Colord was installed because of
 dependencies. But I would like to know why I need this package? My
 system worked without any problems without it for a few releases and
 now this package is installed, despite the fact that I have not even
 x.org installed.

 Well what dependencies brought it in. Unless we know what pulled it in
 can anyone know if that dependency is legitimate. Without that
 information there is no way a person can answer without invalid
 assumptions.

I found the transaction, it seems that it was installed as dependency
for pdfjam, not as dependency for regular upgrade as I suspected. So
it's my fault, not bad dependecies :)

Transaction ID : 109
Begin time : Thu Jun 30 21:47:33 2011
Begin rpmdb: 401:171b28d7b0bbde4f6fa3dfd42c0577370ec84464
End time   :21:50:02 2011 (149 seconds)
End rpmdb  : 439:846b495d5230641ab583f20aa8226677b7911a79
User   :  michal
Return-Code: Success
Command Line   : install pdfjam.noarch
Transaction performed with:
Updated   rpm-4.9.0-9.fc15.x86_64  ?
Updated   yum-3.2.29-6.fc15.noarch ?
Packages Altered:
Dep-Install colord-0.1.7-1.fc15.x86_64  ?
Dep-Install gd-2.0.35-12.fc15.x86_64?
Dep-Install ghostscript-9.02-1.fc15.x86_64  ?
Dep-Install ghostscript-fonts-5.50-24.fc15.noarch   ?
Dep-Install kpathsea-2007-62.fc15.x86_64?
Dep-Install lcms-libs-1.19-4.fc15.x86_64?
Dep-Install lcms2-2.2-1.fc15.x86_64 ?
Dep-Install libICE-1.0.6-3.fc15.x86_64  ?
Dep-Install libSM-1.2.0-2.fc15.x86_64   @fedora/15
Dep-Install libXfont-1.4.3-2.fc15.x86_64@fedora/15
Dep-Install libXt-1.1.0-1.fc15.x86_64   ?
Dep-Install libexif-0.6.20-1.fc15.x86_64?
Dep-Install libfontenc-1.0.5-4.fc15.x86_64  ?
Dep-Install libgphoto2-2.4.10.1-1.fc15.x86_64   ?
Dep-Install libieee1284-0.2.11-10.fc15.x86_64   @fedora/15
Dep-Install libv4l-0.8.3-2.fc15.x86_64  ?
Dep-Install lockdev-1.0.3-10.fc15.x86_64?
Dep-Install netpbm-10.47.26-2.fc15.x86_64   ?
Dep-Install netpbm-progs-10.47.26-2.fc15.x86_64 ?
Dep-Install openjpeg-libs-1.4-6.fc15.x86_64 ?
Install pdfjam-2.08-2.fc15.noarch   @fedora/15
Dep-Install poppler-0.16.6-1.fc15.x86_64?
Dep-Install poppler-data-0.4.4-2.fc15.noarch?
Dep-Install psutils-1.17-37.fc15.x86_64 @fedora/15
Dep-Install sane-backends-1.0.22-3.fc15.x86_64  ?
Dep-Install sane-backends-libs-1.0.22-3.fc15.x86_64 ?
Dep-Install sane-backends-libs-gphoto2-1.0.22-3.fc15.x86_64 ?
Dep-Install tex-preview-11.86-6.fc15.noarch ?
Dep-Install texlive-2007-62.fc15.x86_64 ?
Dep-Install texlive-dvips-2007-62.fc15.x86_64   ?
Dep-Install texlive-latex-2007-62.fc15.x86_64   ?
Dep-Install texlive-texmf-2007-37.fc15.noarch   ?
Dep-Install texlive-texmf-dvips-2007-37.fc15.noarch ?
Dep-Install texlive-texmf-fonts-2007-37.fc15.noarch ?
Dep-Install texlive-texmf-latex-2007-37.fc15.noarch ?
Dep-Install texlive-utils-2007-62.fc15.x86_64   ?
Dep-Install urw-fonts-2.4-10.fc15.noarch@fedora/15
Dep-Install xorg-x11-font-utils-1:7.5-6.fc15.x86_64 @fedora/15
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Re: why do I need colord?

2011-11-07 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/11/8 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at:
 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Out of curiosity I wanted to ask, why do I need colord on my system?

 Try yum remove colord and see what it wants to remove (and probably say
 no if it's anything important to you), then you'll know what drags it in
 (whether for good reasons or not).

colord doesn't remove any dependencies here.


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F16 my network doesn't work after an update and I don't know how to fix it...

2011-10-26 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some
problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on
this box doesn't work anymore.

I use NetworkManager and dhcp. During the update NetworkManager and
NetworkManager-glib was updated from 1:0.9.1.90-3.git20110927 to
1:0.9.1.90-4.git20110927, dhclient, dhcp-libs and dhcp-common was
updated from 12:4.2.2-9 to 12:4.2.3-1.

I downgraded NetworkManager and dhcp packages to previous versions,
but my network still doesn't work. I guess that one of other updates
broke it. I see in history:
cronie-* - unlikeley
dracut
freetype
gdb
ghostscript-fonts
gitweb
kernel - I tried previous version - stil no network
libblkid
libdrm
libmount
libuuid
ntp
ntpdate
perl-* - many packages
php-pear
polkit
sane-*
shared-mime
tzdata-*
util-linux
xen-*

ifconfig doesn't show information about inet address so I guess that
it is not obtained from dhcp. When I try to run dhclient manualy it
can obtain data from dhcp, but it works really slow. When I strace it
I see
wait4(-1, Warning: cannot bind to specific iface, falling back:
Operation not permited

Does anyone have any idea what should I downgrade to fix my network?


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Re: F16 my network doesn't work after an update and I don't know how to fix it...

2011-10-26 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 26 października 2011 18:18 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 Hi,

 Today I updated my F16 to latest version. After a while I noticed some
 problems with network, I rebooted system and after this my network on
 this box doesn't work anymore.

Sorry for the noise. This was a problem with my router. I checked the
cable before on my laptop - it worked fine. In some way my laptop
obtained dhcp data from router without problem, but my dev server was
not able to do it. Router reboot solved the problem.


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Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 25 października 2011 08:32 użytkownik Matej Cepl
mc...@redhat.com napisał:
 Dne 24.10.2011 22:27, Michał Piotrowski napsal(a):
 Yeah, this solution has its drawbacks, but it also has undoubted
 advantages.

 I am probably dumb, but could you tell me some *undoubted* advantage of
 using

 #!/usr/bin/env sh

You can alias sh to other shell.

I need to use this from time to time on some servers, for example
alias php='/usr/local/php5.3/bin/php -c
/usr/local/directadmin/data/users/ehorizon/php/eventhorizon.pl/php53.ini'
PATH=/usr/local/php5.3/bin:$PATH

Without this trick I would not be able to use php 5.3 cli on my shared hosting.


 (note, that couple of years ago, we were removing /usr/bin/env python
 from all Python scripts in Fedora packages, and replacing them with
 /usr/bin/python, because it was (rightly) agreed, that the moment Fedora
 doesn't have Python in /usr/bin we have much bigger problems to solve).

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Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/10/25 Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com:
 Dne 24.10.2011 22:48, Michał Piotrowski napsal(a):
 For example - you can switch to different version of language
 interpreter with different configuration without modification of the
 script and without the hassle for server admin.

 So, because you haven't learned about ln(1) yet,

Sometimes you have no control over the server that you are using.

 we all have to wait for
 the moment, where yum (for example) gets broken, because of some random
 bug in some random version of python in /usr/local/bin?

 Awesome!

I not suggested to use this in Fedora scripts, but generally it's verry usefull.


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Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 25 października 2011 09:20 użytkownik Harald Hoyer
har...@redhat.com napisał:
 On 10/24/2011 10:12 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 In any case
 #!/usr/bin/env sh
 seems to be more portable solution.

 please :) you can propose this as a separate feature for F18 :) Let's
 see, if it gets accepted :)

Ok, no problem.

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Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 25 października 2011 09:26 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 W dniu 25 października 2011 09:20 użytkownik Harald Hoyer
 har...@redhat.com napisał:
 On 10/24/2011 10:12 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 In any case
 #!/usr/bin/env sh
 seems to be more portable solution.

 please :) you can propose this as a separate feature for F18 :) Let's
 see, if it gets accepted :)

 Ok, no problem.

I created feature page
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters

I can help with it. I only need to know how to find all scripts that
uses #!/bin/sh without installing all packages :)

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Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net:
 Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said:
 I created feature page
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters

 I strongly object to this feature.  /bin/sh is a Unix standard back to
 IIRC around 7th Edition, and there is NO good reason to break it.  The
 #!/usr/bin/env foo suggested replacement has always been a hack to
 work around broken systems, not something suggested for all scripts.

What is wrong with
#!/usr/bin/env interpreter
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Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/10/25 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com:
 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:33:28PM +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net:
  Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said:
  I created feature page
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters
 
  I strongly object to this feature.  /bin/sh is a Unix standard back to
  IIRC around 7th Edition, and there is NO good reason to break it.  The
  #!/usr/bin/env foo suggested replacement has always been a hack to
  work around broken systems, not something suggested for all scripts.

 What is wrong with
 #!/usr/bin/env interpreter
 from technical POV?

 This is what's wrong:

  $ cat  sh.sh
  #!/bin/sh
  $ cat  env.sh
  #!/usr/bin/env sh
  $ chmod +x sh.sh env.sh
  $ time for i in $(seq 1000); do ./sh.sh; done

  real            0m2.737s
  user            0m0.750s
  sys             0m1.519s
  $ time for i in $(seq 1000); do ./env.sh; done

  real            0m3.677s
  user            0m1.013s
  sys             0m2.296s


Yeah, it is noticeably slower - about 0,00094s.


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Re: UsrMove feature (was Re: FESCo meeting minutes for 2011-10-24)

2011-10-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net:
 Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said:
 2011/10/25 Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net:
  Once upon a time, Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com said:
  I created feature page
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F18MorePortableInterpreters
 
  I strongly object to this feature.  /bin/sh is a Unix standard back to
  IIRC around 7th Edition, and there is NO good reason to break it.  The
  #!/usr/bin/env foo suggested replacement has always been a hack to
  work around broken systems, not something suggested for all scripts.

 What is wrong with
 #!/usr/bin/env interpreter
 from technical POV?

 It is an unnecessary hack, since the intepreters all have standard
 locations.  It also adds the overhead of a second exec() call and a PATH
 search (start env, let it parse its command line, then search the PATH
 for the desired interpreter, then exec() the interpreter).

Overhead is not big - about 0,00094s according to Richard's test.


 It also makes system scripts more fragile; for example, if somebody
 installs (from source) a different version of python in /usr/local/bin,
 all RPM-installed scripts in /usr/bin (that may not even work with that
 version) will now use the new version with unpredictable results.

Yes, this is a good argument.


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