Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-06-07 Thread Sorin Sbarnea
Well said, there is no catchy name for this (virtual) security threat. We will 
have to let one of those that oppose this proposal to find a caching name 
(PATHEXIT?), maybe even build a paper explaining how to mitigate it.

I am bit disappointed because other distributions fixed it, even twice after a 
temporary regression due to a mistake. We never did it.

Now that we have a change proposal, how to continue? To get it accepted or 
rejected, is there a way/process that we need to follow?

Should we maybe add a section to the document with supporters and opposers 
where people can record themselves?

Thanks
Sorin


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Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-29 Thread Sorin Sbarnea
I ended up creating
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UserPathPrioritization and I invite
others to improve its description.

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/sorin

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Miro Hrončok  wrote:

>
>
> On 29.5.2018 09:34, Sorin Sbarnea wrote:
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>> What do we need to do to make Fedora do the right thing (add it to the
>> top of the list), just like Debian/Ubuntu. I am sure that they had similar
>> discussions and in the end they decided to do the right thing.
>>
>
> A Fedora change proposal.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Policy
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> Miro Hrončok
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Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

2018-05-29 Thread Sorin Sbarnea
Does this discussion had any outcomes? I tried to find any conclusions in the 
thread but I missed to spot them. 

I am asking this because I was redirected to this thread after I opened a bug 
on RHEL for the same issue, bug that was closed hours later as NOTABUG, 
something I do not agree with.

What do we need to do to make Fedora do the right thing (add it to the top of 
the list), just like Debian/Ubuntu. I am sure that they had similar discussions 
and in the end they decided to do the right thing.

RHEL bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1583227 (bad description, 
see comments).

PS. For those worried that their user installed tools (~/.local/bin) may 
introduce surprises, here is a hint: you can always run commands in a non-login 
shell which would only use the system default PATH which does not include the 
user one. This is the right way to isolate yourself from user config, not by 
avoiding to fix the bashrc PATH order. Remember that user can always edit his 
profile files and modify the PATH order, something that would have the same 
kind of effect as installing the tools. 

Thanks
Sorin Sbarnea
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