Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Nikola Pajkovsky
Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:

 Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
 orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16.

 The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If
 you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up.
 If no one claims any of these packages, they will be blocked before
 we branch for Fedora 18. That is currently scheduled to happen on
 or around August 7th.

 Note that if you're receiving this mail directly, it's because you are
 a co-maintainer of one of these packages. Please work with your
 comaintainers to take up maintenance.

there is missing orphaned iptraf. please get rid of it from f18.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
 Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said:
 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:
  Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
  orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16.

  The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build.
  [snip]

 That list seems seriously incomplete.  I'm aware of at least these
 others that have FTBFS in both F17 and F18 mass rebuilds, as evidenced
 by their release tags:

 It's done by basing off of the F16FTBFS bug, as that's the easiest source
 of info when we haven't done a mass rebuild.

 We could include everything with older dist tags. Looking at it, that would
 be 78 more packages.

It would be nice to get rid of anything that's FTBFS in non supported
Fedora (ie at least  fc16) and the last time I looked at that there's
a good 150 odd packages that are fc15 or older packages. There's been
two mass rebuilds since then and if the package maintainers haven't
managed to fix them (or they've not been fixed by people like
secondary arches that fix them because they're blocking their builds)
the package maintainer is either AWOL or not doing their job of
maintaining packages or even bothering to check failure emails so it's
likely better off for Fedora that they're scrapped as well. I think in
the F17 cycle I fixed over 100+ of these packages.

Peter
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Johannes Lips
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com
 wrote:
  Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said:
  Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:
   Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
   orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora
 16.
 
   The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build.
   [snip]
 
  That list seems seriously incomplete.  I'm aware of at least these
  others that have FTBFS in both F17 and F18 mass rebuilds, as evidenced
  by their release tags:
 
  It's done by basing off of the F16FTBFS bug, as that's the easiest source
  of info when we haven't done a mass rebuild.
 
  We could include everything with older dist tags. Looking at it, that
 would
  be 78 more packages.

 It would be nice to get rid of anything that's FTBFS in non supported
 Fedora (ie at least  fc16) and the last time I looked at that there's
 a good 150 odd packages that are fc15 or older packages. There's been
 two mass rebuilds since then and if the package maintainers haven't
 managed to fix them (or they've not been fixed by people like
 secondary arches that fix them because they're blocking their builds)
 the package maintainer is either AWOL or not doing their job of
 maintaining packages or even bothering to check failure emails so it's
 likely better off for Fedora that they're scrapped as well. I think in
 the F17 cycle I fixed over 100+ of these packages.

It would probably help to keep track of the problem if we could manage to
get back the FTBFS bugs.
I don't know if there is some work done on this but it would definitely
help with this issue.

Johannes


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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Athmane Madjoudj

On 07/24/2012 08:36 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
...

Removing: ncpfs
 hydra requires libncp.so.2.3
 hydra requires ncpfs-devel = 2.2.6-17.fc18
 hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS.2.2.0.17)
 hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.0.19)
 hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.1)
 medusa requires libncp.so.2.3
 medusa requires ncpfs-devel = 2.2.6-17.fc18
 medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS.2.2.0.17)
 medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.0.19)
 medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.1)


...

I've taken ncpfs, I'll try to maintain it (not a Netware/IPX expert), 
co-maintainers are welcome.


The worst case is to re-orphan ncpfs and rebuild hydra/medusa without 
ncpfs support.


Thanks,

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Patrick Uiterwijk
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:36 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
 Package healpix (fails to build)
My patch fixing this has been accepted, and this package is now built correctly.
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Peter Robinson (pbrobin...@gmail.com) said: 
  That list seems seriously incomplete.  I'm aware of at least these
  others that have FTBFS in both F17 and F18 mass rebuilds, as evidenced
  by their release tags:
 
  It's done by basing off of the F16FTBFS bug, as that's the easiest source
  of info when we haven't done a mass rebuild.
 
  We could include everything with older dist tags. Looking at it, that would
  be 78 more packages.
 
 It would be nice to get rid of anything that's FTBFS in non supported
 Fedora (ie at least  fc16) and the last time I looked at that there's
 a good 150 odd packages that are fc15 or older packages. There's been
 two mass rebuilds since then and if the package maintainers haven't
 managed to fix them (or they've not been fixed by people like
 secondary arches that fix them because they're blocking their builds)
 the package maintainer is either AWOL or not doing their job of
 maintaining packages or even bothering to check failure emails so it's
 likely better off for Fedora that they're scrapped as well. I think in
 the F17 cycle I fixed over 100+ of these packages.

I'm OK with being more thorough here, but I can't commit to bringing back
the full FTBFS infrastructure myself - I just don't have the time.

I'll see about getting the list of other non-building packages and get
bugs filed for them.

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Nikola Pajkovsky (npajk...@redhat.com) said: 
 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:
 
  Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
  orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16.
 
  The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If
  you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up.
  If no one claims any of these packages, they will be blocked before
  we branch for Fedora 18. That is currently scheduled to happen on
  or around August 7th.
 
  Note that if you're receiving this mail directly, it's because you are
  a co-maintainer of one of these packages. Please work with your
  comaintainers to take up maintenance.
 
 there is missing orphaned iptraf. please get rid of it from f18.

Please follow the procedure at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life

Thanks,
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-25 Thread Bill Nottingham
Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) said: 
  It would be nice to get rid of anything that's FTBFS in non supported
  Fedora (ie at least  fc16) and the last time I looked at that there's
  a good 150 odd packages that are fc15 or older packages. There's been
  two mass rebuilds since then and if the package maintainers haven't
  managed to fix them (or they've not been fixed by people like
  secondary arches that fix them because they're blocking their builds)
  the package maintainer is either AWOL or not doing their job of
  maintaining packages or even bothering to check failure emails so it's
  likely better off for Fedora that they're scrapped as well. I think in
  the F17 cycle I fixed over 100+ of these packages.
 
 I'll see about getting the list of other non-building packages and get
 bugs filed for them.

Done, new list sent.

Bill
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[ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16.

The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If
you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up.
If no one claims any of these packages, they will be blocked before
we branch for Fedora 18. That is currently scheduled to happen on
or around August 7th.

Note that if you're receiving this mail directly, it's because you are
a co-maintainer of one of these packages. Please work with your
comaintainers to take up maintenance.

Package archmage (orphan)
Package boolstuff (orphan)
Package cmucl (orphan)
comaintained by: green
Package drupal6-video (orphan)
Package eclipse-m2m-qvtoml (fails to build)
Package fillmore-lombard (fails to build)
comaintained by: salimma
Package gant (fails to build)
Package genus2reduction (orphan)
Package globalplatform (orphan)
Package gpshell (orphan)
Package gtkmm-utils (orphan)
Package gtkpod (orphan)
Package hamster-applet (orphan)
Package hartke-aurulent-sans-fonts (orphan)
Package healpix (fails to build)
Package json (orphan)
Package k12linux-quick-start-guide (orphan)
Package kadu (fails to build)
comaintained by: gajownik radekl
Package libcrystalhd (fails to build)
comaintained by: kwizart
Package libgtkhotkey (orphan)
Package libhid (fails to build)
Package libqttracker (fails to build)
comaintained by: jreznik
Package libsoup22 (orphan)
Package natus (fails to build)
Package ncpfs (orphan)
Package ntfs-config (fails to build)
Package nvi (orphan)
Package perl-Nagios-Plugin-Beanstalk (orphan)
Package pfqueue (orphan)
Package pino (fails to build)
Package polyester (orphan)
Package polyester3 (orphan)
Package python-batchhttp (orphan)
Package python-chm (orphan)
Package python-pywt (fails to build)
Package python-remoteobjects (orphan)
Package python-typepad (orphan)
Package qtparted (fails to build)
Package selenium-remote-control (fails to build)
Package torque (orphan)
Package typepad-motion (orphan)
Package upstart (orphan)
Package winwrangler (orphan)

List of deps left behind by packages which are orphaned or fail to build:

Removing: healpix
skyviewer requires chealpix-devel = 2.13a-2.fc14
skyviewer requires libchealpix.so

Removing: libgtkhotkey
synapse requires libgtkhotkey.so.1

Removing: libsoup22
libopensync-plugin-syncml requires libsoup22-devel = 2.2.105-9.fc15
libsyncml requires libsoup-2.2.so.8
libsyncml requires libsoup22-devel = 2.2.105-9.fc15

Removing: ncpfs
hydra requires libncp.so.2.3
hydra requires ncpfs-devel = 2.2.6-17.fc18
hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS.2.2.0.17)
hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.0.19)
hydra requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.1)
medusa requires libncp.so.2.3
medusa requires ncpfs-devel = 2.2.6-17.fc18
medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS.2.2.0.17)
medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.0.19)
medusa requires libncp.so.2.3(NCPFS_2.2.1)

Removing: python-batchhttp
django-typepad requires python-batchhttp = 1.1-5.fc18

Removing: python-chm
chm2pdf requires python-chm = 0.8.4-12.fc18

Removing: python-remoteobjects
django-typepad requires python-remoteobjects = 1.1-5.fc18

Removing: python-typepad
django-typepad requires python-typepad = 1.1.2-5.fc18

Removing: selenium-remote-control
perl-Alien-SeleniumRC requires selenium-server = 1.0.3-8.20100318svn.fc15

Removing: torque
pbstop requires torque-client = 3.0.4-1.fc17
pdsh requires torque-devel = 3.0.4-1.fc17
pdsh-mod-torque requires torque = 3.0.4-1.fc17
pdsh-mod-torque requires libtorque.so.2
perl-PBS requires libtorque.so.2
perl-PBS requires libtorque-devel = 3.0.4-1.fc17
python-pbs requires torque-devel = 3.0.4-1.fc17
python-pbs requires libtorque.so.2
python3-pbs requires libtorque.so.2

Removing: upstart
clamav-milter-upstart requires /sbin/initctl
clamav-scanner-upstart requires /sbin/initctl
dhcp-forwarder-upstart requires /sbin/initctl
ip-sentinel-upstart requires /sbin/initctl
milter-greylist-upstart requires /sbin/initctl
tor-upstart requires /sbin/initctl

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-24 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
 Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
 orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16.

 The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build. If
 you have a need for one of these packages, please pick them up.
 If no one claims any of these packages, they will be blocked before
 we branch for Fedora 18. That is currently scheduled to happen on
 or around August 7th.

 Note that if you're receiving this mail directly, it's because you are
 a co-maintainer of one of these packages. Please work with your
 comaintainers to take up maintenance.


 Package drupal6-video (orphan)
 Package gtkpod (orphan)

Took these two, comaintainers welcome.

-J

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-24 Thread Tom Lane
Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:
 Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
 orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16.

 The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build.
 [snip]

That list seems seriously incomplete.  I'm aware of at least these
others that have FTBFS in both F17 and F18 mass rebuilds, as evidenced
by their release tags:

alevt-0:1.6.2-16.fc15.x86_64
eboard-0:1.1.1-7.fc15.x86_64
enigma-0:1.01-15.x86_64
fbdesk-0:1.4.1-7.fc15.x86_64
fuse-emulator-0:1.0.0.1-1.fc16.x86_64
gconf-cleaner-0:0.0.3-2.fc15.x86_64
gdmap-0:0.8.1-8.fc15.x86_64
gimmix-0:0.5.7.1-2.fc15.x86_64
gnofract4d-0:3.13-2.fc15.x86_64
grace-0:5.1.22-9.fc16.x86_64
gshutdown-0:0.2-8.fc16.x86_64
gtksourceview-1:1.8.5-8.fc15.i686
gtksourceview-1:1.8.5-8.fc15.x86_64
hardinfo-0:0.5.1-3.fc15.x86_64
libgdiplus-0:2.10-2.fc16.i686
libgdiplus-0:2.10-2.fc16.x86_64
libgtksourceviewmm-1:0.3.1-7.fc15.i686
libgtksourceviewmm-1:0.3.1-7.fc15.x86_64
libharu-0:2.1.0-3.fc15.i686
libharu-0:2.1.0-3.fc15.x86_64
libpano12-0:2.8.6-5.fc15.i686
libpano12-0:2.8.6-5.fc15.x86_64
libpano12-tools-0:2.8.6-5.fc15.x86_64
metapixel-0:1.0.2-7.fc15.x86_64
munipack-0:1.2.10-2.fc15.i686
munipack-0:1.2.10-2.fc15.x86_64
pngcrush-0:1.6.10-7.fc15.x86_64
pngnq-0:1.1-1.fc16.x86_64
printoxx-0:2.8.1-2.fc15.x86_64
putty-0:0.60-7.20100910svn.fc15.x86_64
rpmdepsize-0:1.0-7.fc15.x86_64
stratagus-0:2.2.4-9.fc15.x86_64
tangogps-0:0.99.4-3.fc15.x86_64
tesseract-0:3.00-2.fc15.i686
tesseract-0:3.00-2.fc15.x86_64
tucnak2-0:2.31-1.fc13.x86_64
wmdrawer-0:0.10.5-11.fc16.x86_64
wmfire-0:1.2.3-4.fc15.x86_64
xaos-0:3.5-2.fc15.x86_64

(The reason I've got my eye on these is that they'd be what breaks if
I remove libpng-compat and/or libtiff-compat, which I'd seriously like
to do before F18 ships.  Those were never intended to be more than a
short-term workaround while people got their dependent packages rebuilt
for the libpng and libtiff major version upgrades.  I don't want to
carry them just to support packages that are long-term FTBFS offenders.)

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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: 
 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes:
  Before we branch for Fedora 18, as is custom, we will block currently
  orphaned packages and packages that have failed to build since Fedora 16.
 
  The following packages are currently orphaned, or fail to build.
  [snip]
 
 That list seems seriously incomplete.  I'm aware of at least these
 others that have FTBFS in both F17 and F18 mass rebuilds, as evidenced
 by their release tags:

It's done by basing off of the F16FTBFS bug, as that's the easiest source
of info when we haven't done a mass rebuild.

We could include everything with older dist tags. Looking at it, that would
be 78 more packages.

Bill
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Re: [ACTION REQUIRED v3] Retiring packages for F-18

2012-07-24 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
 Package genus2reduction (orphan)

I've taken this one.
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