Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 10:59:11AM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 05:32:28AM -, Reon Beon via devel wrote: > > Video2X would be a nice add. > > There's a package wishlist here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist > > But adding the package there is no guarantee anyone will pick it up. > I believe most items are there for years without action. > Best way is to become a packager and add a package by yourself: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/ I've added a warning to this effect to the top of that wiki page. Anyone, feel free to adjust the wording there, which I just came up with on the fly. :) -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
Done: https://github.com/rpmfusion-infra/fedy/issues/90 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
Dne 19. 11. 21 v 15:10 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 07:12, Neal Gompa wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:05 AM Ahmed Almeleh wrote: I do think voting for packages to be included in the next Fedora release is an amazing idea maybe we could create a survey through Google forms or make a custom website for Fedora. I.e. Telling users select all packages you would like to see in Fedora 36. It's a horrible idea, because it will just lead to disappointed users. Nothing compels anyone to do anything about that, so people who fill them out and see no results would just get angry at us. To clarify. Packages in Fedora are there because of volunteers. Outside of a small subset of glibc/kernel and some other items, all the packages maintained by a Red Hat employee are there on that person's volunteer time. The project has no power to compel a packager to pick up a package and the project has no power to compel a packager to keep a package when they want to let it go. +1 Usually when you put package on wishlist, it sits there indefinitely. If you want to add package to Fedora you need to: 1) add it there yourselv https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/ or 2) find someone who will do that for you. You can motivate someone by bounty, employ them, poison them with your enthusiasm :) ... In past, I wanted to mediate a list of people available for hire, but no one had actually interest. :( Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 at 07:12, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:05 AM Ahmed Almeleh > wrote: > > > > I do think voting for packages to be included in the next Fedora release is > > an amazing idea maybe we could create a survey through Google forms or make > > a custom website for Fedora. I.e. Telling users select all packages you > > would like to see in Fedora 36. > > > > It's a horrible idea, because it will just lead to disappointed users. > Nothing compels anyone to do anything about that, so people who fill > them out and see no results would just get angry at us. > To clarify. Packages in Fedora are there because of volunteers. Outside of a small subset of glibc/kernel and some other items, all the packages maintained by a Red Hat employee are there on that person's volunteer time. The project has no power to compel a packager to pick up a package and the project has no power to compel a packager to keep a package when they want to let it go. In the end, these sorts of lists are only useful when a project is starting out and people can say 'Oh i really want this' enough that a packager with free time takes it up. When a project is fully going and most packagers have reached their limit.. these lists have multiple negative effects: 1. People don't see the package getting added and are disappointed 2. Packagers can feel extra put upon as most of them are already overburdened. 3. New packagers usually see these packages, and find themselves drowning in trying to take these on. First the packages are never easy to package up. Second even when they are, there are a lot of rules and nuances to rules which need to be mastered to deal with updates/upgrades and not stomping on someone else's package. -- Stephen J Smoogen. Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
Tomasz Torcz a écrit : > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 05:32:28AM -, Reon Beon via devel wrote: > > Video2X would be a nice add. > > There's a package wishlist here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist > > But adding the package there is no guarantee anyone will pick it up. > I believe most items are there for years without action. > Best way is to become a packager and add a package by yourself: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/ > +1 package wishlist for rpmfusion is here: https://rpmfusion.org/Wishlist regards, -- GnuPG: AE157E0B29F0BEF2 at keys.openpgp.org CA Cert: https://dl.casperlefantom.net/pub/ssl/root.der Jabber/XMPP Messaging: cas...@casperlefantom.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
I do see your point though On Fri, 19 Nov 2021, 12:12 Neal Gompa, wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:05 AM Ahmed Almeleh > wrote: > > > > I do think voting for packages to be included in the next Fedora release > is an amazing idea maybe we could create a survey through Google forms or > make a custom website for Fedora. I.e. Telling users select all packages > you would like to see in Fedora 36. > > > > It's a horrible idea, because it will just lead to disappointed users. > Nothing compels anyone to do anything about that, so people who fill > them out and see no results would just get angry at us. > > > > -- > 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:05 AM Ahmed Almeleh wrote: > > I do think voting for packages to be included in the next Fedora release is > an amazing idea maybe we could create a survey through Google forms or make a > custom website for Fedora. I.e. Telling users select all packages you would > like to see in Fedora 36. > It's a horrible idea, because it will just lead to disappointed users. Nothing compels anyone to do anything about that, so people who fill them out and see no results would just get angry at us. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
I do think voting for packages to be included in the next Fedora release is an amazing idea maybe we could create a survey through Google forms or make a custom website for Fedora. I.e. Telling users select all packages you would like to see in Fedora 36. On Fri, 19 Nov 2021, 09:59 Tomasz Torcz, wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 05:32:28AM -, Reon Beon via devel wrote: > > Video2X would be a nice add. > > There's a package wishlist here: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist > > But adding the package there is no guarantee anyone will pick it up. > I believe most items are there for years without action. > Best way is to become a packager and add a package by yourself: > > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/ > > -- > Tomasz Torcz Morality must always be based on practicality. > to...@pipebreaker.pl — Baron Vladimir Harkonnen > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 05:32:28AM -, Reon Beon via devel wrote: > Video2X would be a nice add. There's a package wishlist here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist But adding the package there is no guarantee anyone will pick it up. I believe most items are there for years without action. Best way is to become a packager and add a package by yourself: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Joining_the_Package_Maintainers/ -- Tomasz Torcz Morality must always be based on practicality. to...@pipebreaker.pl — Baron Vladimir Harkonnen ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
在 2021-11-19星期五的 05:32 +，Reon Beon via devel写道： > Video2X would be a nice add. Not really, see https://github.com/k4yt3x/video2x . It seems that Video2X depends on ffmpeg, which is only available in rpmfusion. You may ask in rpmfusion list to see if anyone is interested to package Video2X. > ___ > devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en- > US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject > .org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora- > infrastructure -- Qiyu Yan GPG keyid: 0x4FC914F065F2DF12 About: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Yanqiyu signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
A way to request/vote for packages to add next to Fedora Linux?
Video2X would be a nice add. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
