Re: Can someone please give this ticket some attention?
fre 2011-01-14 klockan 16:16 -0500 skrev Nathaniel McCallum: > I still think migrating to GNOME shell by default was a mistake if the > proper fallbacks were not in place. If the developers knew the > fallbacks were not implemented (this seems to be the case), why was it > ever enabled by default? I have no problem with rawhide breakage from > time to time, but intentional breakage, and indeed intentional breakage > that leaves one with no access to their desktop, should be avoided at > all cost. rawhide is well.. rawhide. It often will not work for everyone, but should work mostly formost. But you better subscribe here and keep a non-rwhide system available when running rawhide. > I also have not seen any documentation on how to manually restore the > previous (gnome-panel) default. I may have just missed it, but the > "Desktop Effects" selector doesn't appear to make a difference. This > too should have been fixed before the switch was implemented. For me the desktop effects switch works as expected, traditional gnome when disabled and shell when enabled. But I have not updated my rawhide in some time, and won't be able to either for some time due to ACPI issues with the default debug kernel. Production kernels works on the box I have available for testing, but unfornately debug kernels do not (hangs in ACPI initialization). Regards Henrik -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Can someone please give this ticket some attention?
On 01/14/2011 03:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 14:08 -0500, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625187
>>
>> This bug basically makes Fedora completely unusable in rawhide for
>> NVA{3,5,8} users. At this point I think it should be made a blocker.
>> Multiple people have volunteered help to resolve it, but there has been
>> no movement for months, no link to an upstream bug and no advice on how
>> to move the ticket forward. Please advise.
>
> It already has attention. Ben's perfectly aware of it, as is the rest of
> the nouveau team. It's not trivial to fix. As I said in the report, the
> problem with Rawhide is not actually an issue in the driver.
I'm happy now, not that the problem is resolved (it isn't) but that
there is now a reference to the upstream bug which contains far more
details. It is this context that the ticket was missing and left people
wondering why something that was so trivial was not getting fixed
(because, if one looks at the upstream bug it is definitely non-trivial).
I still think migrating to GNOME shell by default was a mistake if the
proper fallbacks were not in place. If the developers knew the
fallbacks were not implemented (this seems to be the case), why was it
ever enabled by default? I have no problem with rawhide breakage from
time to time, but intentional breakage, and indeed intentional breakage
that leaves one with no access to their desktop, should be avoided at
all cost.
I also have not seen any documentation on how to manually restore the
previous (gnome-panel) default. I may have just missed it, but the
"Desktop Effects" selector doesn't appear to make a difference. This
too should have been fixed before the switch was implemented.
Nathaniel
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Re: Can someone please give this ticket some attention?
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 14:08 -0500, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625187
>
> This bug basically makes Fedora completely unusable in rawhide for
> NVA{3,5,8} users. At this point I think it should be made a blocker.
> Multiple people have volunteered help to resolve it, but there has been
> no movement for months, no link to an upstream bug and no advice on how
> to move the ticket forward. Please advise.
It already has attention. Ben's perfectly aware of it, as is the rest of
the nouveau team. It's not trivial to fix. As I said in the report, the
problem with Rawhide is not actually an issue in the driver.
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Re: Can someone please give this ticket some attention?
> "NM" == Nathaniel McCallum writes:
NM> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625187 This bug
NM> basically makes Fedora completely unusable in rawhide for NVA{3,5,8}
NM> users.
Isn't that just https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26980 ?
If so, the hardware is basically unsupported and needs significant
reverse engineering to be useful.
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Re: Can someone please give this ticket some attention?
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:08:58 -0500
Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625187
>
> This bug basically makes Fedora completely unusable in rawhide for
> NVA{3,5,8} users. At this point I think it should be made a blocker.
> Multiple people have volunteered help to resolve it, but there has
> been no movement for months, no link to an upstream bug and no advice
> on how to move the ticket forward. Please advise.
"Be patient" would be my advice.
Yes, this looks like something that should get attention...
given holdays and floods, it's probibly just not been gotten to yet.
Hopefully, someone will be able to dig more into it soon.
kevin
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Can someone please give this ticket some attention?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625187
This bug basically makes Fedora completely unusable in rawhide for
NVA{3,5,8} users. At this point I think it should be made a blocker.
Multiple people have volunteered help to resolve it, but there has been
no movement for months, no link to an upstream bug and no advice on how
to move the ticket forward. Please advise.
Nathaniel
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