Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-07 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 07/11/2013 08:27, Manuel Faux ha scritto:

On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 18:38:38 +
devel-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:


Quoting Rahul Sundaram (2013-11-05 17:46:55)

  Hi


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:
   

Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for
Fedora? I checked the netbeans package, which was last built
for fc17. Is there any technical or license reason for this or is
just nobody packing it right now?
  

Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it
right now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is
interested in packaging it afaik.

More specifically look at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2010-November/003980.html

Reason nobody picked it up is that is has relatively big dependency
chain and there was nobody interested enough (from maintainer
perspective).

I have investigated the build process of NetBeans and I can just can go
along with the fact that its dependency chain is quite long.
Nevertheless I would like to reactivate it. If anyone is interested in
helping, feel free to contact me.

It seems like, that also netbeans-platform was not updated since quite
a long time, which means that this package needs to be updated before.

Manuel

hi,
see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetBeans_7.3
gil
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Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-07 Thread Manuel Faux
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 09:11:37 +0100
punto...@libero.it punto...@libero.it wrote:

 Il 07/11/2013 08:27, Manuel Faux ha scritto:
  On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 18:38:38 +
  devel-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
 
  Quoting Rahul Sundaram (2013-11-05 17:46:55)
Hi
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:
 
  Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for
  Fedora? I checked the netbeans package, which was last built
  for fc17. Is there any technical or license reason for this or is
  just nobody packing it right now?

  Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it
  right now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is
  interested in packaging it afaik.
  More specifically look at:
 
  https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2010-November/003980.html
 
  Reason nobody picked it up is that is has relatively big dependency
  chain and there was nobody interested enough (from maintainer
  perspective).
  I have investigated the build process of NetBeans and I can just
  can go along with the fact that its dependency chain is quite long.
  Nevertheless I would like to reactivate it. If anyone is interested
  in helping, feel free to contact me.
 
  It seems like, that also netbeans-platform was not updated since
  quite a long time, which means that this package needs to be
  updated before.
 
  Manuel
 hi,
 see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetBeans_7.3
 gil

Hi,

I saw this page, but I could not find out, if anybody actually is
working on this. All the TODO bugs are assigned to nobody and also the
wiki page was not updated for a long time.

Since you are the owner of this feature, is it okay to update it for
NetBeans version 7.4 and go ahead with working on it?

Manuel
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Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-07 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 07/11/2013 09:47, Manuel Faux ha scritto:

On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 09:11:37 +0100
punto...@libero.it punto...@libero.it wrote:


Il 07/11/2013 08:27, Manuel Faux ha scritto:

On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 18:38:38 +
devel-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:


Quoting Rahul Sundaram (2013-11-05 17:46:55)

   Hi


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:


Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for
Fedora? I checked the netbeans package, which was last built
for fc17. Is there any technical or license reason for this or is
just nobody packing it right now?
   

Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it
right now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is
interested in packaging it afaik.

More specifically look at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2010-November/003980.html

Reason nobody picked it up is that is has relatively big dependency
chain and there was nobody interested enough (from maintainer
perspective).

I have investigated the build process of NetBeans and I can just
can go along with the fact that its dependency chain is quite long.
Nevertheless I would like to reactivate it. If anyone is interested
in helping, feel free to contact me.

It seems like, that also netbeans-platform was not updated since
quite a long time, which means that this package needs to be
updated before.

Manuel

hi,
see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetBeans_7.3
gil

Hi,

I saw this page, but I could not find out, if anybody actually is
working on this. All the TODO bugs are assigned to nobody and also the


yes, because NB isn't really a priority now... (see Bigdata or Wildfly 
projects)

really there are not many TODO 
just upudate (we don't want import in a separate package for e.g. 
netbeans-platform, or use eclipse apis)

this package:
netbeans-javaparser


wiki page was not updated for a long time.

Since you are the owner of this feature, is it okay to update it for
NetBeans version 7.4 and go ahead with working on it?

for the page contact  Vedran Miletić  riva...@gmail.com

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Vedranm


Manuel


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Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-06 Thread Manuel Faux
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 18:38:38 +
devel-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:

 Quoting Rahul Sundaram (2013-11-05 17:46:55)
   Hi
  
  
  On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:

   Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for
   Fedora? I checked the netbeans package, which was last built
   for fc17. Is there any technical or license reason for this or is
   just nobody packing it right now?

  
  Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it
  right now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is
  interested in packaging it afaik.  
 
 More specifically look at:
 
 https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2010-November/003980.html
 
 Reason nobody picked it up is that is has relatively big dependency
 chain and there was nobody interested enough (from maintainer
 perspective).

I have investigated the build process of NetBeans and I can just can go
along with the fact that its dependency chain is quite long.
Nevertheless I would like to reactivate it. If anyone is interested in
helping, feel free to contact me.

It seems like, that also netbeans-platform was not updated since quite
a long time, which means that this package needs to be updated before.

Manuel
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Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-05 Thread Manuel Faux
Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for Fedora? I 
checked the netbeans package, which was last built for fc17.
Is there any technical or license reason for this or is just nobody packing it 
right now?

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Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-05 Thread Rahul Sundaram
 Hi


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:

 Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for Fedora? I
 checked the netbeans package, which was last built for fc17.
 Is there any technical or license reason for this or is just nobody
 packing it right now?


Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it right
now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is interested in packaging
it afaik.

Rahul
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Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-05 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet

On 11/05/2013 09:46 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:

Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it right
now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is interested in
packaging it afaik.


I've been loving using netbeans however I've been using the upstream 
package.. I looked into the original package but the spec file is so 
complicated and I have no idea how java programs are packagaed so shied 
away. If someone else thinks collectively we could bring it back up to a 
recent version. I'd be delighted to co-maintain it.



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Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-05 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Quoting Rahul Sundaram (2013-11-05 17:46:55)
  Hi
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:
 
  Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for Fedora? I
  checked the netbeans package, which was last built for fc17.
  Is there any technical or license reason for this or is just nobody
  packing it right now?
 
 
 Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it right
 now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is interested in packaging
 it afaik.

More specifically look at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2010-November/003980.html

Reason nobody picked it up is that is has relatively big dependency chain and
there was nobody interested enough (from maintainer perspective). Most Java
packages are in Fedora because they are dependencies of following packages:

* Tomcat
* Maven
* Eclipse
* WildFly
* (new) Big Data SIG stuff
* and of course a few more apps here and there

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R: Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-05 Thread punto...@libero.it
hi
see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetBeans_7.3 (should be update)
problem(s):
- latest NB releases use some libraries available in java8 e.g.
  https://github.com/furosys/nashorn
  Nashorn for Java 7 https://bitbucket.org/ramonza/nashorn-backport (used by 
NB)
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005932
- eclipse integration, i/we haven't no intentions to use eclipse libraries (e.
g. eclipse jgit)
  if users was use thesefeatures should/must use eclipse ide
- some libraries was updates, and others should be adapted for latest release 
7.4

for now porting of NB is stopped
regards
gil

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Ogg: Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

Quoting Rahul Sundaram (2013-11-05 17:46:55)
  Hi
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:
 
  Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for Fedora? I
  checked the netbeans package, which was last built for fc17.
  Is there any technical or license reason for this or is just nobody
  packing it right now?
 
 
 Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it right
 now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is interested in packaging
 it afaik.

More specifically look at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2010-November/003980.
html

Reason nobody picked it up is that is has relatively big dependency chain and
there was nobody interested enough (from maintainer perspective). Most Java
packages are in Fedora because they are dependencies of following packages:

* Tomcat
* Maven
* Eclipse
* WildFly
* (new) Big Data SIG stuff
* and of course a few more apps here and there

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Re: R: Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

2013-11-05 Thread punto...@libero.it

Il 05/11/2013 18:59, punto...@libero.it ha scritto:

hi
see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NetBeans_7.3 (should be update)
problem(s):
- latest NB releases use some libraries available in java8 e.g.
   https://github.com/furosys/nashorn
   Nashorn for Java 7 https://bitbucket.org/ramonza/nashorn-backport (used by
NB)
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005932
- eclipse integration, i/we haven't no intentions to use eclipse libraries (e.
g. eclipse jgit)


  if users would like to use these features should/must use eclipse ide

- some libraries was updates, and others should be adapted for latest release
7.4

for now porting of NB is stopped
regards
gil


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Ogg: Re: Discontinued Packing of NetBeans IDE

Quoting Rahul Sundaram (2013-11-05 17:46:55)

  Hi


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Manuel Faux  wrote:


Is it correct that the NetBeans IDE is currently not packed for Fedora? I
checked the netbeans package, which was last built for fc17.
Is there any technical or license reason for this or is just nobody
packing it right now?


Someone from Sun used to be the maintainer and noone is doing it right
now.  No technical or licensing issues if anyone is interested in packaging
it afaik.

More specifically look at:

https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/java-devel/2010-November/003980.

html

Reason nobody picked it up is that is has relatively big dependency chain and
there was nobody interested enough (from maintainer perspective). Most Java
packages are in Fedora because they are dependencies of following packages:

* Tomcat
* Maven
* Eclipse
* WildFly
* (new) Big Data SIG stuff
* and of course a few more apps here and there

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