Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and fpr dovecot i am not sure That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. what is a little bit confusing is how to find out what is enabled in which order, how to change and that chkconfig | grep on lists only a subset of services There's no “order” per se on systemd. Services are started as they're needed. systemctl gives ahughe list mixed mounted disks and servcices and compared with a stripped down F14 there are running much more stuff with a hughe longer boot process :-( try “systemctl -t service” conclusion: i am really missing anything making chkconfig able display all services and only them as followed, and yes this is really enough for a stripped down fileserver as vmware-guest [root@fileserver:~]$ chkconfig | grep Ein auditd 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus crond 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus lvm2-monitor0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus messagebus 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus netatalk0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus network 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus postfix 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus rsyslog 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus smb 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus sshd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus udev-post 0:Aus 1:Ein 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus vmtoolsd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus Something like “systemctl show -p Wants default.target”? -- Tomasz TorczThere exists no separation between gods and men: xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl one blends softly casual into the other. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and fpr dovecot i am not sure That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. -- Petr -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
Hi, 2011/6/15 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com: On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and fpr dovecot i am not sure That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. This of course did not prevent the part of developers in delivering systemd services for F15. -- Petr -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 09:54 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2011/6/15 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com: On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and fpr dovecot i am not sure That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. This of course did not prevent the part of developers in delivering systemd services for F15. What is the purpose of this discussion? The main point is: let's make it better in F16+ releases!. Vrata Podzimek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: F15: most services sysvinit only?
2011/6/15 Vratislav Podzimek vpodz...@redhat.com: On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 09:54 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: Hi, 2011/6/15 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com: On 2011-06-15, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and fpr dovecot i am not sure That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd integration furing F14 and F15 devel cycles. See bugs linked from: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability There are few maintainers and upstream who responded quickly, though. Beacuse specification how to do it was released one week before F15. This of course did not prevent the part of developers in delivering systemd services for F15. What is the purpose of this discussion? The main point is: let's make it better in F16+ releases!. Yeah, sure. That's why I like this feature :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd Vrata Podzimek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
F15: most services sysvinit only?
playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and fpr dovecot i am not sure * dbmail (pop3, imap, timesieved, lmtp) * postfix * postgrey * mysqld what is a little bit confusing is how to find out what is enabled in which order, how to change and that chkconfig | grep on lists only a subset of services systemctl gives ahughe list mixed mounted disks and servcices and compared with a stripped down F14 there are running much more stuff with a hughe longer boot process :-( conclusion: i am really missing anything making chkconfig able display all services and only them as followed, and yes this is really enough for a stripped down fileserver as vmware-guest [root@fileserver:~]$ chkconfig | grep Ein auditd 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus crond 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus lvm2-monitor0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus messagebus 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus netatalk0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus network 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus postfix 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus rsyslog 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus smb 0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus sshd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus udev-post 0:Aus 1:Ein 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus vmtoolsd0:Aus 1:Aus 2:Ein 3:Ein 4:Ein 5:Ein 6:Aus signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
