F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
= Proposed System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Login_Screen_Over_Wayland Change owner(s): Ray Strode rstr...@redhat.com Change the Login screen that GDM uses to run on Wayland instead of X. == Detailed Description == At the moment, a user can choose to log in to a Wayland session from the login screen, but the login screen itself always runs on top of X. The point of this change is to change that, and make the login screen always run on a Wayland session. == Scope == * Proposal owners: The main things that need be accomplished are: ** Change GDM to not start an X server at startup, instead run the login screen in Wayland mode ** Change X based user sessions to run on their own VT, since they can no longer piggyback off the login screen VT ** Come up with some answer for proprietary Nvidia driver users, since that stack doesn't yet support Wayland. One idea is to force the login session to use software-based mesa if the proprietary Nvidia driver is detected. * Other developers: We may need to get the mesa maintainer involved as part of a proprietary Nvidia driver handling, but also might not need to pending investigation. * Release engineering: This change doesn't affect release workflow * Policies and guidelines: This change doesn't affect packaging guidelines == Contingency Plan == * Contingency mechanism: Revert to existing mechanism of login screen on Xorg * Contingency deadline: Beta Freeze * Blocks release? No * Blocks product? No ___ devel-announce mailing list devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Login_Screen_Over_Wayland Change owner(s): Ray Strode rstr...@redhat.com Change the Login screen that GDM uses to run on Wayland instead of X. == Detailed Description == At the moment, a user can choose to log in to a Wayland session from the login screen, but the login screen itself always runs on top of X. The point of this change is to change that, and make the login screen always run on a Wayland session. == Scope == * Proposal owners: The main things that need be accomplished are: ** Change GDM to not start an X server at startup, instead run the login screen in Wayland mode ** Change X based user sessions to run on their own VT, since they can no longer piggyback off the login screen VT ** Come up with some answer for proprietary Nvidia driver users, since that stack doesn't yet support Wayland. One idea is to force the login session to use software-based mesa if the proprietary Nvidia driver is detected. I don't think this part is as simple that. For a wayland session to work we need a working gbm and for that some kind of drm driver ... for that we could use simpledrm (if it ever got upstream) but not sure whether it can run when the nvidia driver is loaded. I can't test that anymore because my nvidia card is dead the other idea would be fall back to X but not sure how much work that would be. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
Am 20.01.2015 um 13:16 schrieb drago01: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Is there any plan to force an X-based login session? For example on my old Intel (gen4) laptop I can not open a wayland session in F21 (I'm taken back to the login screen immediately). This ought to work so please file a bug. another user already took care of that: see bug 1175708 component is currently gnome-shell but it seems to be hardware-dependent as it works on r600g. Felix -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Am 20.01.2015 um 13:16 schrieb drago01: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Is there any plan to force an X-based login session? For example on my old Intel (gen4) laptop I can not open a wayland session in F21 (I'm taken back to the login screen immediately). This ought to work so please file a bug. another user already took care of that: see bug 1175708 component is currently gnome-shell but it seems to be hardware-dependent as it works on r600g. Doesn't look like it ... xwayland crashes but the logs in the bug are not enough to find out why: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=970564 i.e need the log output before that. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
Am 20.01.2015 um 12:32 schrieb Jaroslav Reznik: ** Come up with some answer for proprietary Nvidia driver users, since that stack doesn't yet support Wayland. One idea is to force the login session to use software-based mesa if the proprietary Nvidia driver is detected. Is there any plan to force an X-based login session? For example on my old Intel (gen4) laptop I can not open a wayland session in F21 (I'm taken back to the login screen immediately). So I'd be interested in a X fallback for the login screen (even if this needs to be enabled manually). Felix -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Am 20.01.2015 um 12:32 schrieb Jaroslav Reznik: ** Come up with some answer for proprietary Nvidia driver users, since that stack doesn't yet support Wayland. One idea is to force the login session to use software-based mesa if the proprietary Nvidia driver is detected. Is there any plan to force an X-based login session? For example on my old Intel (gen4) laptop I can not open a wayland session in F21 (I'm taken back to the login screen immediately). This ought to work so please file a bug. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
Am 20.01.2015 um 13:34 schrieb drago01: On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote: component is currently gnome-shell but it seems to be hardware-dependent as it works on r600g. Doesn't look like it ... xwayland crashes but the logs in the bug are not enough to find out why: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=970564 i.e need the log output before that. Does this help? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=982103 If not: What can I do to generate helpful logs? (feel free to leave your comments in bugzilla so we don't have to hijack this thread) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
How does this affect users of other display managers (or does it)? -- Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: F22 System Wide Change: Login Screen Over Wayland
Hi On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 7:25 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: How does this affect users of other display managers (or does it)? It doesn't affect them afaik. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
