Re: GNOME glitches in F21 - Should they be reported and against which components?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Florian Müllner > wrote: >> > After a little bit of testing, I can confirm that it happens with every app. > [...] > Do I file this against mutter? Yes please. >> The desktop window is provided by nautilus. > > > Should I file a bug, when I don't have a way to reproduce this behavior? Can't hurt. > So these icons will remain in the message tray or will they be moved to the > top bar notification area? That's not entirely clear yet, they will probably be moved to a dedicated area (possibly some kind of drawer). They will definitively not be mixed with the system status area in the top bar. > From GNOME's own icons, I gather that 48x48 is the default size. Seahorse > was problematic since F19, mail notification and solaar icons were 48x48 in > F20, easystroke's icon was visible in F20 (same package version as currently > in F21), dropbox and spideroak were at 22x22 (I think). Do I bother the > maintainers, or do I leave them be? No, at least not for legacy status icons, as that's a gnome-shell issue. Though from the listing above, at least seahorse should use "proper" notifications? I am not aware of any reported issues with those, so that's worth filing. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: GNOME glitches in F21 - Should they be reported and against which components?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Florian Müllner wrote: > Keeping track of the window size prior to maximization and restoring > it on unminimize is the window manager's job. However if no windows > besides Firefox are affected, I wouldn't exclude a bug there. Maybe > some rogue add-on? > After a little bit of testing, I can confirm that it happens with every app. I have a 1920x1080 monitor resolution and conky running on the right side of the desktop (260px wide). I killed conky to make sure it's not involved somehow. I set gedit to cover the entire desktop, starting from the left edge and leaving ~330px from the right (window width ~1590px). After maximizing and unmaximizing it, it becomes 1717px. If the original window width is larger than ~1730px, when it is restored it becomes either 1717px or something smaller than it originally was. The same thing happens with gnome-terminal, seamonkey, bluefish, gnucash and just about every other app I tried. Do I file this against mutter? > > 2. Random rearrangement of icons on the desktop: > > I have organized my current projects and things to do in a dozen folders > on > > my desktop, arranged in a grid. So far, this has happened to me three > times: > > Upon logging in, some of them were taken out of the grid and randomly > placed > > all over the desktop. > > The desktop window is provided by nautilus. > Should I file a bug, when I don't have a way to reproduce this behavior? > > 3. Icon inconsistencies in the message tray: > > Some icons are 48x48, others 22x22 and others are not displayed at all. > In > > this screenshot > > https://alexpl.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/gnome_message_tray.png > > there are actually 8 icons: a seahorse notification that a signature was > > good, solaar, dropbox (I don't know if our package is to blame or > theirs), > > mail-notification, spideroak, gnote, nut monitor and easystroke. > > This is a (known) gnome-shell issue. I'm afraid the notification > changes won't really affect this (other than: "it was wrong to pretend > those were notifications, let's decouple them again"), but reporting > it again is probably not too useful anyway. > So these icons will remain in the message tray or will they be moved to the top bar notification area? >From GNOME's own icons, I gather that 48x48 is the default size. Seahorse was problematic since F19, mail notification and solaar icons were 48x48 in F20, easystroke's icon was visible in F20 (same package version as currently in F21), dropbox and spideroak were at 22x22 (I think). Do I bother the maintainers, or do I leave them be? > This is probably not a bug. The default of the > middle-click-on-titlebar setting was changed, so unless you explicitly > changed the setting before, it is expected that you get the new > default rather than preserving the default value from time of > installation. > I'm not sure about that one, so I'm dropping it. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: GNOME glitches in F21 - Should they be reported and against which components?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > A few days ago I upgraded my main workstation to F21 and I've noticed a few > annoying glitches, but I don't know if they are all worth reporting Yes. Glitches may be minor bugs, but bugs nonetheless. > 1. Window size and position: > While some applications start with their last window size and placement, > others do not; among them, most notable is firefox. Saving and restoring window state is up to applications, so this would be a feature request for applications that don't do this already. > It usually starts maximized and then switches to something like a 7:2 ratio. > When it is > maximized and then unmaximized, it never returns to its original size. Keeping track of the window size prior to maximization and restoring it on unminimize is the window manager's job. However if no windows besides Firefox are affected, I wouldn't exclude a bug there. Maybe some rogue add-on? > 2. Random rearrangement of icons on the desktop: > I have organized my current projects and things to do in a dozen folders on > my desktop, arranged in a grid. So far, this has happened to me three times: > Upon logging in, some of them were taken out of the grid and randomly placed > all over the desktop. The desktop window is provided by nautilus. > 3. Icon inconsistencies in the message tray: > Some icons are 48x48, others 22x22 and others are not displayed at all. In > this screenshot > https://alexpl.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/gnome_message_tray.png > there are actually 8 icons: a seahorse notification that a signature was > good, solaar, dropbox (I don't know if our package is to blame or theirs), > mail-notification, spideroak, gnote, nut monitor and easystroke. This is a (known) gnome-shell issue. I'm afraid the notification changes won't really affect this (other than: "it was wrong to pretend those were notifications, let's decouple them again"), but reporting it again is probably not too useful anyway. > 4. Settings migration was inconsistent: > While most of my settings from the previous version of GNOME were preserved > after the upgrade to 3.14.2, others were not; e.g. the window action key was > preserved, middle click on the titlebar to lower a window wasn't. This is probably not a bug. The default of the middle-click-on-titlebar setting was changed, so unless you explicitly changed the setting before, it is expected that you get the new default rather than preserving the default value from time of installation. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
GNOME glitches in F21 - Should they be reported and against which components?
Hello, A few days ago I upgraded my main workstation to F21 and I've noticed a few annoying glitches, but I don't know if they are all worth reporting and against which components they should be reported. 1. Window size and position: While some applications start with their last window size and placement, others do not; among them, most notable is firefox. It usually starts maximized and then switches to something like a 7:2 ratio. When it is maximized and then unmaximized, it never returns to its original size. 2. Random rearrangement of icons on the desktop: I have organized my current projects and things to do in a dozen folders on my desktop, arranged in a grid. So far, this has happened to me three times: Upon logging in, some of them were taken out of the grid and randomly placed all over the desktop. 3. Icon inconsistencies in the message tray: Some icons are 48x48, others 22x22 and others are not displayed at all. In this screenshot https://alexpl.fedorapeople.org/screenshots/gnome_message_tray.png there are actually 8 icons: a seahorse notification that a signature was good, solaar, dropbox (I don't know if our package is to blame or theirs), mail-notification, spideroak, gnote, nut monitor and easystroke. Now, I know I should report this to the maintainer of each package and some have already been reported in BZ, but given the upcoming change to GNOME's notification system, will these issues persist? Is it worth their time? 4. Settings migration was inconsistent: While most of my settings from the previous version of GNOME were preserved after the upgrade to 3.14.2, others were not; e.g. the window action key was preserved, middle click on the titlebar to lower a window wasn't. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
