Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-04-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 24 March 2014 19:26, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 07:21:51PM +, Aaron Gray wrote:
 The HP Dl140 G3 has MCA based graphics. F20 seems to be mainly fixed
 apart from MCA based Anaconda, which gets the resolution wrong, the
 screen being too small for the Anaconda graphics.
 VESA setup mode works fine however.

 Ah. You mean MGA, not MCA. It's entirely possible that there's a bug in
 the mgag200 driver that's resulting in a failure to get the correct
 EDID, but that's a kernel bug rather than an anaconda one.

Why is the system when installed fine then ?

Its just Anaconda setup that's getting the lower resolution.

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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-04-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 17 March 2014 22:02, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 09:39 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 20:07 +, Aaron Gray wrote:

  I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I
  need to understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it
  launches X Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not
  working on my HP D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.

 Anaconda doesn't really configure X before running it, it just relies
 on X's autoconfiguration logic to Do The Right Thing.  I'm hoping you
 don't really mean MCA to mean Micro Channel Architecture there, one I
 didn't think anybody besides IBM was foolish enough to use that and two
 Fedora's X hasn't supported buses older than PCI for a couple of
 releases now.

 Whatever problem you're having with graphics at install time, you will
 almost certainly also have after installed; it's usually easier to debug
 by going ahead and installing in text mode and then debugging graphics
 once installed.

 I think the system he's referring to is this one:

 http://reviews.cnet.com/soho-servers/hp-proliant-dl140/4507-3125_7-30620088.html

 Graphics Controller

 Type Integrated
 Interface Type PCI
 Graphics Processor / Vendor ATI RAGE XL
 Video Memory 8 MB / 8 MB (max) SDRAM
 Video Interfaces VGA

Adam,

We thought it was an ATI Rage to begin with but X.org says differently
for my systems.

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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-24 Thread Aaron Gray
The HP Dl140 G3 has MCA based graphics. F20 seems to be mainly fixed
apart from MCA based Anaconda, which gets the resolution wrong, the
screen being too small for the Anaconda graphics.
VESA setup mode works fine however.

On 17 March 2014 22:02, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 09:39 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 20:07 +, Aaron Gray wrote:

  I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I
  need to understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it
  launches X Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not
  working on my HP D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.

 Anaconda doesn't really configure X before running it, it just relies
 on X's autoconfiguration logic to Do The Right Thing.  I'm hoping you
 don't really mean MCA to mean Micro Channel Architecture there, one I
 didn't think anybody besides IBM was foolish enough to use that and two
 Fedora's X hasn't supported buses older than PCI for a couple of
 releases now.

 Whatever problem you're having with graphics at install time, you will
 almost certainly also have after installed; it's usually easier to debug
 by going ahead and installing in text mode and then debugging graphics
 once installed.

 I think the system he's referring to is this one:

 http://reviews.cnet.com/soho-servers/hp-proliant-dl140/4507-3125_7-30620088.html

 Graphics Controller

 Type Integrated
 Interface Type PCI
 Graphics Processor / Vendor ATI RAGE XL
 Video Memory 8 MB / 8 MB (max) SDRAM
 Video Interfaces VGA
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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-24 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 07:21:51PM +, Aaron Gray wrote:
 The HP Dl140 G3 has MCA based graphics. F20 seems to be mainly fixed
 apart from MCA based Anaconda, which gets the resolution wrong, the
 screen being too small for the Anaconda graphics.
 VESA setup mode works fine however.

Ah. You mean MGA, not MCA. It's entirely possible that there's a bug in 
the mgag200 driver that's resulting in a failure to get the correct 
EDID, but that's a kernel bug rather than an anaconda one.

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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-17 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 20:07 +, Aaron Gray wrote:

 I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I
 need to understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it
 launches X Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not
 working on my HP D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.

Anaconda doesn't really configure X before running it, it just relies
on X's autoconfiguration logic to Do The Right Thing.  I'm hoping you
don't really mean MCA to mean Micro Channel Architecture there, one I
didn't think anybody besides IBM was foolish enough to use that and two
Fedora's X hasn't supported buses older than PCI for a couple of
releases now.

Whatever problem you're having with graphics at install time, you will
almost certainly also have after installed; it's usually easier to debug
by going ahead and installing in text mode and then debugging graphics
once installed.

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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 09:39 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 20:07 +, Aaron Gray wrote:
 
  I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I
  need to understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it
  launches X Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not
  working on my HP D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.
 
 Anaconda doesn't really configure X before running it, it just relies
 on X's autoconfiguration logic to Do The Right Thing.  I'm hoping you
 don't really mean MCA to mean Micro Channel Architecture there, one I
 didn't think anybody besides IBM was foolish enough to use that and two
 Fedora's X hasn't supported buses older than PCI for a couple of
 releases now.
 
 Whatever problem you're having with graphics at install time, you will
 almost certainly also have after installed; it's usually easier to debug
 by going ahead and installing in text mode and then debugging graphics
 once installed.

I think the system he's referring to is this one:

http://reviews.cnet.com/soho-servers/hp-proliant-dl140/4507-3125_7-30620088.html

Graphics Controller

Type Integrated
Interface Type PCI
Graphics Processor / Vendor ATI RAGE XL
Video Memory 8 MB / 8 MB (max) SDRAM
Video Interfaces VGA
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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-14 Thread Aaron Gray
Thanks for putting me right, will have to look into this properly. I
was mainly looking at Anaconda and F20 for my HP DL140 G3 servers
which there are problems with the video with.

On 14 March 2014 01:05, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 14:38 +, Aaron Gray wrote:
 Not sure yet but Anaconda has some specialised support for CPU's
 presumably the processor name at a minimum.

 I'm not sure if I'm missing something or you are, but Anaconda doesn't
 really distinguish between CPUs, and it does support ARM. anaconda is a
 supported deployment method for Calxeda ARM systems in Fedora 20:
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F20/Installation#Calxeda_EnergyCore_.28HighBank_and_Midway.29

 anaconda does have a concept of *platforms*. The various platforms are
 defined in blivet these days, in fact, in blivet/platform.py:

 class X86(Platform):
 class EFI(Platform):
 class MacEFI(EFI):
 class Aarch64EFI(EFI):
 class PPC(Platform):
 class IPSeriesPPC(PPC):
 class NewWorldPPC(PPC):
 class PS3(PPC):
 class S390(Platform):
 class ARM(Platform):
 class omapARM(ARM):

 and used in several places in blivet and anaconda (mainly partitioning
 and bootloader installation). 'Aarch64EFI' is for aarch64 systems using
 UEFI firmware, IIRC.
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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-13 Thread Aaron Gray
Not sure yet but Anaconda has some specialised support for CPU's
presumably the processor name at a minimum.

On 12 March 2014 21:55, Jon jdisn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Okay think I have got a handle on it now, the main python file in the
 root does not have a .py extension. Very helpful !

 Another interesting thing is there is no ARM support which I will be
 needing at some point.

 Aaron

 On 12 March 2014 20:07, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I need to
 understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it launches X
 Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not working on my HP
 D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.

 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/anaconda.git/tree/?h=f20-branch

 Hope someone kind person has time to help me.

 Regards,

 Aaron



 What kind of ARM support will you be looking to have?

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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 14:38 +, Aaron Gray wrote:
 Not sure yet but Anaconda has some specialised support for CPU's
 presumably the processor name at a minimum.

I'm not sure if I'm missing something or you are, but Anaconda doesn't
really distinguish between CPUs, and it does support ARM. anaconda is a
supported deployment method for Calxeda ARM systems in Fedora 20:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F20/Installation#Calxeda_EnergyCore_.28HighBank_and_Midway.29

anaconda does have a concept of *platforms*. The various platforms are
defined in blivet these days, in fact, in blivet/platform.py:

class X86(Platform):
class EFI(Platform):
class MacEFI(EFI):
class Aarch64EFI(EFI):
class PPC(Platform):
class IPSeriesPPC(PPC):
class NewWorldPPC(PPC):
class PS3(PPC):
class S390(Platform):
class ARM(Platform):
class omapARM(ARM):

and used in several places in blivet and anaconda (mainly partitioning
and bootloader installation). 'Aarch64EFI' is for aarch64 systems using
UEFI firmware, IIRC.
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Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-12 Thread Aaron Gray
Hi,

I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I need
to understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it launches X
Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not working on my
HP D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.

https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/anaconda.git/tree/?h=f20-branch

Hope someone kind person has time to help me.

Regards,

Aaron
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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-12 Thread Aaron Gray
Okay think I have got a handle on it now, the main python file in the
root does not have a .py extension. Very helpful !

Another interesting thing is there is no ARM support which I will be
needing at some point.

Aaron

On 12 March 2014 20:07, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I need to
 understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it launches X
 Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not working on my HP
 D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.

 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/anaconda.git/tree/?h=f20-branch

 Hope someone kind person has time to help me.

 Regards,

 Aaron

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Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-03-12 Thread Jon
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay think I have got a handle on it now, the main python file in the
 root does not have a .py extension. Very helpful !

 Another interesting thing is there is no ARM support which I will be
 needing at some point.

 Aaron

 On 12 March 2014 20:07, Aaron Gray aaronngray.li...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I need to
 understand it and cannot find where its 'main' is and how it launches X
 Windows as I need to work out why the main installer is not working on my HP
 D140 G3's with MCA video controllers.

 https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/anaconda.git/tree/?h=f20-branch

 Hope someone kind person has time to help me.

 Regards,

 Aaron



What kind of ARM support will you be looking to have?

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