Re: Improving Fedora sponsors discoverability

2021-07-12 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 02:34:05AM +0200, Jakub Kadlcik wrote:
> I am so sorry Kevin, I missed the message for some reason.
> 
> > Looks pretty cool. Not sure it would be something for the first cut, or
> > later, but it might be nice to have a way to list 'preferred' contact
> > method? This might be something we could add to the account system also
> > and you could just get it from there? (ie, IRC, Matrix, email, other)
> 
> I agree with you, this would be helpful for both sponsors and newcomer
> packagers. As you suggest, ideally, we should have this information in
> the accounts system (not defined within the sponsors site). Once the
> information is available there is no reason why not to display it :-)
> 
> I created a ticket for it
> https://github.com/fedora-infra/noggin/issues/685
> 
> > There are packager groups... could perhaps look at them and get sponsors
> > from them? ie, python-sig, graphics-sig, etc?
> 
> I originally thought so but then I decided to go with custom
> configuration files because I checked SIG memberships of some sponsors
> that I know and they never were in the SIG for the thing that I know
> they are interested in. Taking you for an example, in your config
> https://kevin.fedorapeople.org/sponsor.yaml you have the following
> interests - command-line, desktop, mobile, python, and epel but you
> are not a member of Desktop SIG, Mobility SIG, and Python SIG.

Well, does 'desktop' mean 'gnome-sig' there? Or all desktops?
And there's no mobility sig group that I am aware of. 

So, yeah, it's murky. 

> But I guess we could take the SIG memberships and use them as one of
> the sources of configuration (in complement to what we already have).
> Does this sound reasonable to you?

Possibly, but mapping them could be difficult, so perhaps just better to
let people self tag. 

kevin


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Re: Improving Fedora sponsors discoverability

2021-07-11 Thread Jakub Kadlcik
I am so sorry Kevin, I missed the message for some reason.

> Looks pretty cool. Not sure it would be something for the first cut, or
> later, but it might be nice to have a way to list 'preferred' contact
> method? This might be something we could add to the account system also
> and you could just get it from there? (ie, IRC, Matrix, email, other)

I agree with you, this would be helpful for both sponsors and newcomer
packagers. As you suggest, ideally, we should have this information in
the accounts system (not defined within the sponsors site). Once the
information is available there is no reason why not to display it :-)

I created a ticket for it
https://github.com/fedora-infra/noggin/issues/685

> There are packager groups... could perhaps look at them and get sponsors
> from them? ie, python-sig, graphics-sig, etc?

I originally thought so but then I decided to go with custom
configuration files because I checked SIG memberships of some sponsors
that I know and they never were in the SIG for the thing that I know
they are interested in. Taking you for an example, in your config
https://kevin.fedorapeople.org/sponsor.yaml you have the following
interests - command-line, desktop, mobile, python, and epel but you
are not a member of Desktop SIG, Mobility SIG, and Python SIG.

But I guess we could take the SIG memberships and use them as one of
the sources of configuration (in complement to what we already have).
Does this sound reasonable to you?


Jakub

On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 7:43 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 05:03:36PM +0200, Jakub Kadlcik wrote:
> > Hello fellow Fedora people,
> >
> > Inspired by @msuchy's Flock 2016 presentation, I
> > would like to tackle one of the topics discussed there - The
> > discoverability of Fedora sponsors for newcomers.
>
> Thanks for taking this on! :)
>
> > I have a website ready to be deployed. If you are interested in the
> > technical details, please see this RFE
> >
> > https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/470
> >
> > and also the code
> >
> > https://github.com/FrostyX/fedora-sponsors
> >
> > The page design is as simple as possible. You can see some screenshots
> > here.
> >
> > https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/470#comment-735105
>
> Looks pretty cool. Not sure it would be something for the first cut, or
> later, but it might be nice to have a way to list 'preferred' contact
> method? This might be something we could add to the account system also
> and you could just get it from there? (ie, IRC, Matrix, email, other)
> >
> > A very important feature to me is grouping sponsors by their areas of
> > interests / expertise, and I would like to ask for your help in this
> > matter.
> >
> > At this moment, I have manually defined areas such as Python, C/C++,
> > Haskell, Ruby, Functional programming, Web development, Modularity,
> > etc and manually assigned people to them (the small number, that I
> > personally know that do these kinds of things).
> >
> > Do you have any idea if there is a way to generate such areas and tie
> > people to them based on some already existing information within the
> > Fedora infrastructure?
>
> There are packager groups... could perhaps look at them and get sponsors
> from them? ie, python-sig, graphics-sig, etc?
>
> kevin
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Re: Improving Fedora sponsors discoverability

2021-06-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 05:03:36PM +0200, Jakub Kadlcik wrote:
> Hello fellow Fedora people,
> 
> Inspired by @msuchy's Flock 2016 presentation, I
> would like to tackle one of the topics discussed there - The
> discoverability of Fedora sponsors for newcomers.

Thanks for taking this on! :) 

> I have a website ready to be deployed. If you are interested in the
> technical details, please see this RFE
> 
> https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/470
> 
> and also the code
> 
> https://github.com/FrostyX/fedora-sponsors
> 
> The page design is as simple as possible. You can see some screenshots
> here.
> 
> https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/470#comment-735105

Looks pretty cool. Not sure it would be something for the first cut, or
later, but it might be nice to have a way to list 'preferred' contact
method? This might be something we could add to the account system also
and you could just get it from there? (ie, IRC, Matrix, email, other)
> 
> A very important feature to me is grouping sponsors by their areas of
> interests / expertise, and I would like to ask for your help in this
> matter.
> 
> At this moment, I have manually defined areas such as Python, C/C++,
> Haskell, Ruby, Functional programming, Web development, Modularity,
> etc and manually assigned people to them (the small number, that I
> personally know that do these kinds of things).
> 
> Do you have any idea if there is a way to generate such areas and tie
> people to them based on some already existing information within the
> Fedora infrastructure?

There are packager groups... could perhaps look at them and get sponsors
from them? ie, python-sig, graphics-sig, etc?

kevin


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Re: Improving Fedora sponsors discoverability

2021-06-14 Thread Miroslav Suchý

Dne 11. 06. 21 v 17:03 Jakub Kadlcik napsal(a):

Do you have any idea if there is a way to generate such areas and tie
people to them based on some already existing information within the
Fedora infrastructure?


What about adopting the approach we use for Fedora Planet:

  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Planet#How_to_join_the_Planet

I.e. fetch this information from special file in $HOME at fedorapeople.org?

Miroslav
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Improving Fedora sponsors discoverability

2021-06-11 Thread Jakub Kadlcik
Hello fellow Fedora people,

Inspired by @msuchy's Flock 2016 presentation, I
would like to tackle one of the topics discussed there - The
discoverability of Fedora sponsors for newcomers.

I have a website ready to be deployed. If you are interested in the
technical details, please see this RFE

https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/470

and also the code

https://github.com/FrostyX/fedora-sponsors

The page design is as simple as possible. You can see some screenshots
here.

https://pagure.io/packager-sponsors/issue/470#comment-735105

A very important feature to me is grouping sponsors by their areas of
interests / expertise, and I would like to ask for your help in this
matter.

At this moment, I have manually defined areas such as Python, C/C++,
Haskell, Ruby, Functional programming, Web development, Modularity,
etc and manually assigned people to them (the small number, that I
personally know that do these kinds of things).

Do you have any idea if there is a way to generate such areas and tie
people to them based on some already existing information within the
Fedora infrastructure?

Otherwise, we will have to stick with manually defined groups, which is
fine with me. But in that case I would like to ask you, what areas of
interest you would like to see. And if you are a Fedora packager
sponsor, in what areas would you like to be listed?


Thank you,
Jakub
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