Re: Packages have proxy word.
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:54:15PM +0100, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote: Quoting Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (2013-11-01 13:52:31) On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. NB, US export restrictions that Fedora is subject to mean users from Syria should not be downloading Fedora at all[1], via a proxy or not. Let's consider how likely this export restriction is to prevent a member of the Syrian government or military from obtaining a copy of Fedora? Not very likely. How likely this export restriction is to hurt a random person, e.g. trying to install open source to avoid restrictions imposed by their government? The first is a joke, the second is high enough to keep this restriction in the same contempt as the Syrian government's ban on proxy. You are walking on thin ice and should stop immediately He's right though. The law as it applies to general purpose software is stupid, immoral and counterproductive. But it is the law, at least in the United States and European Union[1]. Rich. [1] http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/syria/ -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones virt-top is 'top' for virtual machines. Tiny program with many powerful monitoring features, net stats, disk stats, logging, etc. http://people.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-top -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
مصعب الزعبي wrote: Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Renaming packages, censoring descriptions etc. in Fedora at the whims of governments (of countries Fedora isn't supposed to be exported to in the first place) is not going to happen. Sorry. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
مصعب الزعبي wrote: Also this law is under restudy, Due to War in Syria. Wasn't Syria actually READDED to the list of banned countries due to the civil war? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On 11/2/13 10:50 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: مصعب الزعبي wrote: Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Renaming packages, censoring descriptions etc. in Fedora at the whims of governments (of countries Fedora isn't supposed to be exported to in the first place) is not going to happen. Sorry. Kevin Kofler I think your answer conflates two issues. If Syria is on the export control list, there's really no further discussion to be had. But I wonder how many i.e. school nanny-filters ban URLs with the word proxy, and how that impacts the ability of users in any country to obtain Fedora. The idea of an alternate URL using package hashes seemed reasonable to me, to route around that sort of internet damage. -Eric -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On 11/02/2013 12:46 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 11/2/13 10:50 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: مصعب الزعبي wrote: Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Renaming packages, censoring descriptions etc. in Fedora at the whims of governments (of countries Fedora isn't supposed to be exported to in the first place) is not going to happen. Sorry. Kevin Kofler I think your answer conflates two issues. If Syria is on the export control list, there's really no further discussion to be had. But I wonder how many i.e. school nanny-filters ban URLs with the word proxy, and how that impacts the ability of users in any country to obtain Fedora. The idea of an alternate URL using package hashes seemed reasonable to me, to route around that sort of internet damage. -Eric I think the solution in this case, that would require zero change to package names, and likely little else, would be to offer a way to choose only those repos that offer an https interface. -- Libre Video http://librevideo.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On 11/2/13 11:48 AM, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: On 11/02/2013 12:46 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 11/2/13 10:50 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: مصعب الزعبي wrote: Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Renaming packages, censoring descriptions etc. in Fedora at the whims of governments (of countries Fedora isn't supposed to be exported to in the first place) is not going to happen. Sorry. Kevin Kofler I think your answer conflates two issues. If Syria is on the export control list, there's really no further discussion to be had. But I wonder how many i.e. school nanny-filters ban URLs with the word proxy, and how that impacts the ability of users in any country to obtain Fedora. The idea of an alternate URL using package hashes seemed reasonable to me, to route around that sort of internet damage. -Eric I think the solution in this case, that would require zero change to package names, and likely little else, would be to offer a way to choose only those repos that offer an https interface. If that works, sure. (I didn't read the whole thread, didn't realize that it solved the problem.) -Eric -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Yes HTTPS works, I think add https://dl.fedoraproject.org to mirrorlist will solve this problem. -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE - MATE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:57:26 -0500 From: sand...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. On 11/2/13 11:48 AM, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: On 11/02/2013 12:46 PM, Eric Sandeen wrote: On 11/2/13 10:50 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: مصعب الزعبي wrote: Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Renaming packages, censoring descriptions etc. in Fedora at the whims of governments (of countries Fedora isn't supposed to be exported to in the first place) is not going to happen. Sorry. Kevin Kofler I think your answer conflates two issues. If Syria is on the export control list, there's really no further discussion to be had. But I wonder how many i.e. school nanny-filters ban URLs with the word proxy, and how that impacts the ability of users in any country to obtain Fedora. The idea of an alternate URL using package hashes seemed reasonable to me, to route around that sort of internet damage. -Eric I think the solution in this case, that would require zero change to package names, and likely little else, would be to offer a way to choose only those repos that offer an https interface. If that works, sure. (I didn't read the whole thread, didn't realize that it solved the problem.) -Eric -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
First , I ask very important questions: Is Fedora a global community or not ?? Is Fedora working for Freedom or not ?? I need answers, truly. Fedora is a global community, not company, published under free license for fredom of computers. Fedora has many many mirrors around the world, nobody can ban it to reach anywhere. Also this law is under restudy, Due to War in Syria. Source forge and many websites that banned them-contents for Syrian IPs, now these contents are allowed and open for Syria, also Youtube before 3 years we need proxies to reach it, Now It's open. Wasn't Syria actually READDED to the list of banned countries due to the civil war? This US racial law only for old goverment , there are more than one goverment in Syria now. I can't show Fedora out of Freedom under any name, or any stuation. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE - MATE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org From: kevin.kof...@chello.at Subject: RE: Packages have proxy word. Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 16:54:27 +0100 مصعب الزعبي wrote: Also this law is under restudy, Due to War in Syria. Wasn't Syria actually READDED to the list of banned countries due to the civil war? Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
Le samedi 02 novembre 2013 à 21:20 +0200, مصعب الزعبي a écrit : First , I ask very important questions: Is Fedora a global community or not ?? It is a global community, and as such, need sometime to take steps for the global community rather than for a local one. While the situation with your internet connexion is unfortunate, AFAIK, there is a immediate workaround. A more proper way would be to be able to restrict mirror by protocol ( or better, have yum/dnf to probe for them, ie switch to a different protocol if he see there is something fishy going with one protocol ), but unfortunately, this is not gonna to code itself in 1 night ( or if this is coded in 1 night, this is not gonna be backported itself in 1 night ). Another solution would be to make mirror manager always return https mirror for ip of some country or similar system. But then, you have to send a proper bug report, and so far, I do not see you doing that. Is Fedora working for Freedom or not ?? Working for freedom yes, but that doesn't mean working to fight all kind of freedom restriction irrespective of any others factors. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com wrote: Censorship? I think we have no reason to change the package name because of some governments‘ being evil. Well there are different ways to solve it then to rename the package. Having the user use a vpn, ssh tunnel or a proxy is one thing but requires user action. Another solution would be to have redirects on the mirrors based on lets say the hash value of the package name ... I doubt any country would censor a string like d799bae6088a90139b415fccb011d540531df83b (sha1 of proxy) ... the question is whether this is worth the effort or not. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On 11/01/2013 12:38 AM, مصعب الزعبي wrote: Proxies not banned. But can be. Renaming packages are non-trivial packages which can take full several days of work. And if your goverment decide to add 'proxies' to list (which is 5 second work) all this work will be vanished. -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
About me And also professional users, doing some thing to download these packages. What about normal users !! what about the beginners ?? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 02:07:22 +0100 From: zbys...@in.waw.pl To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Not worked during updating ! Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:42:35 -0600 Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. From: li...@petetravis.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org On Oct 31, 2013 6:08 PM, مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates: libproxy - sssd-proxy . Can to rename to : libproxies - sssd-proxies Or something else. Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi You might have some luck with rsync. I *think* there's some tooling out there to enable a mirror with only your required packages; if not, you can create a wrapper script for it. Something like --excludes=$(yum list all - yum list installed) might do. [not actual code] --Pete -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Also for old names we can use (provides:) function. I can turn around the problem but beginners can't. From: cicku...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:42:16 +0800 Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Censorship? I think we have no reason to change the package name because of some governments‘ being evil. Have you tried opening a ssh tunnel proxy for firewall breaking? Thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Great idea to hash package names. Thanx Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:02:24 +0100 Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. From: drag...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com wrote: Censorship? I think we have no reason to change the package name because of some governments‘ being evil. Well there are different ways to solve it then to rename the package. Having the user use a vpn, ssh tunnel or a proxy is one thing but requires user action. Another solution would be to have redirects on the mirrors based on lets say the hash value of the package name ... I doubt any country would censor a string like d799bae6088a90139b415fccb011d540531df83b (sha1 of proxy) ... the question is whether this is worth the effort or not. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Ok , so what about last idea to hash package names ? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:44:57 +0100 From: msu...@redhat.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. On 11/01/2013 12:38 AM, مصعب الزعبي wrote: Proxies not banned. But can be. Renaming packages are non-trivial packages which can take full several days of work. And if your goverment decide to add 'proxies' to list (which is 5 second work) all this work will be vanished. -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. NB, US export restrictions that Fedora is subject to mean users from Syria should not be downloading Fedora at all[1], via a proxy or not. Regards, Daniel [1] See Export restrictions footer on https://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora -- |: http://berrange.com -o-http://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: http://entangle-photo.org -o- http://live.gnome.org/gtk-vnc :| -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. NB, US export restrictions that Fedora is subject to mean users from Syria should not be downloading Fedora at all[1], via a proxy or not. Let's consider how likely this export restriction is to prevent a member of the Syrian government or military from obtaining a copy of Fedora? Not very likely. How likely this export restriction is to hurt a random person, e.g. trying to install open source to avoid restrictions imposed by their government? The first is a joke, the second is high enough to keep this restriction in the same contempt as the Syrian government's ban on proxy. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Fedora is a global community, not company, published under free license for fredom of computers. Fedora has many many mirrors around the world, nobody can ban it to reach anywhere. Also this law is under restudy, Due to War in Syria. Source forge and many websites that banned them-contents for Syrian IPs, now these contents are allowed and open for Syria, also Youtube before 3 years we need proxies to reach it, Now It's open. I can't show Fedora out of Freedom under any name, or any stuation. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE - MATE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 13:52:31 +0100 From: zbys...@in.waw.pl To: berra...@redhat.com; devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. NB, US export restrictions that Fedora is subject to mean users from Syria should not be downloading Fedora at all[1], via a proxy or not. Let's consider how likely this export restriction is to prevent a member of the Syrian government or military from obtaining a copy of Fedora? Not very likely. How likely this export restriction is to hurt a random person, e.g. trying to install open source to avoid restrictions imposed by their government? The first is a joke, the second is high enough to keep this restriction in the same contempt as the Syrian government's ban on proxy. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
Quoting Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (2013-11-01 13:52:31) On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. NB, US export restrictions that Fedora is subject to mean users from Syria should not be downloading Fedora at all[1], via a proxy or not. Let's consider how likely this export restriction is to prevent a member of the Syrian government or military from obtaining a copy of Fedora? Not very likely. How likely this export restriction is to hurt a random person, e.g. trying to install open source to avoid restrictions imposed by their government? The first is a joke, the second is high enough to keep this restriction in the same contempt as the Syrian government's ban on proxy. You are walking on thin ice and should stop immediately You may not provide Fedora software or technical information to individuals or entities located in one of these countries or otherwise subject to these restrictions. CCing fedora-legal for good measure -- Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com Software Engineer - Developer Experience PGP: 7B087241 Red Hat Inc. http://cz.redhat.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word. (repeated to CC legal)
Fedora is a global community, not company, published under free license for fredom of computers. Fedora has many many mirrors around the world, nobody can ban it to reach anywhere. Also this law is under restudy, Due to War in Syria. Source forge and many websites that banned them-contents for Syrian IPs, now these contents are allowed and open for Syria, also Youtube before 3 years we need proxies to reach it, Now It's open. I can't show Fedora out of Freedom under any name, or any stuation. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE - MATE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org; zbys...@in.waw.pl From: sochotni...@redhat.com Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:54:15 +0100 CC: le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Quoting Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (2013-11-01 13:52:31) On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 12:09:03PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 02:07:22AM +0100, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. NB, US export restrictions that Fedora is subject to mean users from Syria should not be downloading Fedora at all[1], via a proxy or not. Let's consider how likely this export restriction is to prevent a member of the Syrian government or military from obtaining a copy of Fedora? Not very likely. How likely this export restriction is to hurt a random person, e.g. trying to install open source to avoid restrictions imposed by their government? The first is a joke, the second is high enough to keep this restriction in the same contempt as the Syrian government's ban on proxy. You are walking on thin ice and should stop immediately You may not provide Fedora software or technical information to individuals or entities located in one of these countries or otherwise subject to these restrictions. CCing fedora-legal for good measure -- Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com Software Engineer - Developer Experience PGP: 7B087241 Red Hat Inc. http://cz.redhat.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
* مصعب الزعبي: When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. A curious problem. Could you use the repositories on https://dl.fedoraproject.org/ instead? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Thank You for attention, Yes they are all downloadable, But only if I use https. From: f...@deneb.enyo.de To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:00:54 +0100 * مصعب الزعبي: When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. A curious problem. Could you use the repositories on https://dl.fedoraproject.org/ instead? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
* مصعب الزعبي: Thank You for attention, Yes they are all downloadable, Good to know. But only if I use https. Yes, that is expected, considering yoru situation. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Packages have proxy word.
بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates: libproxy - sssd-proxy . Can to rename to : libproxies - sssd-proxies Or something else. Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
Hi, Renaming packages it is not user friendly thing because of few reasons: - there's some documentation/blog posts etc that use these names - this will break installation scripts - poeple who use these packages are familiar with these names What if your country also ban proxies word? 2013/11/1 مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates: libproxy - sssd-proxy . Can to rename to : libproxies - sssd-proxies Or something else. Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
RE: Packages have proxy word.
Proxies not banned. Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 00:20:35 +0100 Subject: Re: Packages have proxy word. From: mkkp...@gmail.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Hi, Renaming packages it is not user friendly thing because of few reasons: - there's some documentation/blog posts etc that use these names - this will break installation scripts - poeple who use these packages are familiar with these names What if your country also ban proxies word? 2013/11/1 مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates: libproxy - sssd-proxy . Can to rename to : libproxies - sssd-proxies Or something else. Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi Senior of Linux Arab Community http://linuxac.org Member of Ojuba Project http://ojuba.org Member of Arab Eyes project http://arabeyes.org Maintainer of Almasa project http://linux.softpedia.com/progMoreBy/Publisher-Almasa-47122.html Maintainer of Arabic Translations in : Wine - VLC - KDE etc Also member of Fedora Arabic translations team -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Best regards, Michal http://eventhorizon.pl/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On Fri, Nov 01, 2013 at 01:08:33AM +0200, مصعب الزعبي wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. I think you'll have to use a... proxy to work around this problem. Or maybe it'll be enough to use a https connection to the mirror. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
On Oct 31, 2013 6:08 PM, مصعب الزعبي moc...@hotmail.com wrote: بسم الله الرّحمن الرّحيم Hi, The result of updating Fedora by yum is fail !! When any package have proxy word marked to (install or update) , error message will appear with http 403 error forbidden. In my country Syria (maybe others) all URLs have proxy word are forbidden and couldn't open by default way. In Fedora there are two common packages and have many updates: libproxy - sssd-proxy . Can to rename to : libproxies - sssd-proxies Or something else. Then do new rule to write proxies instead of proxy, at Fedora packaging guidlines. Regards -=-=-=-=-=- Mosaab Alzoubi You might have some luck with rsync. I *think* there's some tooling out there to enable a mirror with only your required packages; if not, you can create a wrapper script for it. Something like --excludes=$(yum list all - yum list installed) might do. [not actual code] --Pete -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: Packages have proxy word.
Censorship? I think we have no reason to change the package name because of some governments‘ being evil. Have you tried opening a ssh tunnel proxy for firewall breaking? Thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
