Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-25 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

W dniu 11 września 2011 22:47 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski
mkkp...@gmail.com napisał:
 2011/9/11 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
 2011/9/11 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
 ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
 Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
 before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

 I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this
 will have some test value.

 F15 is where I've been doing my own testing.  It's the F16 packages that
 would need karma, though.

 I tried to upgrade to F16 at Wednesday, but preupgrade failed
 somewhere. Next week I will not be able to upgrade because my vacation
 ended and I need a fully functioning system over the next few days
 (I've got a large webapp deployment). So I am afraid that I will not
 be useful for testing PGSQL 9.1 on F16.


 The database weenie in me says that trying to push 9.1.0 into F16 at
 this late date is insane.  I'm willing to do it if we can get enough
 testing attention, but I think it has to be honest testing in an
 F16-alpha environment.

 If I find some time I'll try to install F16 on VM, but I do not know
 whether such tests will be useful. It seems to me that best and most
 valuable tests would be just do some regular work on DB.

I'm using PostgreSQL 9.1 on F16 for a week and did not notice any
problems (except slower start). I used preupgrade to update system -
after changing database directory in service file I had a working
database. From my POV this update was painless :)

Great job. Thanks!


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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-13 Thread Steve Clark

On 09/12/2011 10:55 PM, Tom Lane wrote:

Bruno Wolff IIIbr...@wolff.to  writes:

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400,
   Tom Lanet...@redhat.com  wrote:

OK, it's built and filed at
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16

One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and
service postgresql help no longer work. I was hoping they'd redirect
to the systemd equivalents of the old function.

I would have liked that too, but systemd is completely unfriendly to

Ahh... but this is progress !? :-(

custom actions of that sort.  The new dispensation is that you have
to do postgresql-setup initdb or postgresql-setup upgrade.
This is documented in
/usr/share/doc/postgresql-*/README.rpm-dist
and in the F16 release notes at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/DatabaseServers
I'm willing to document it somewhere else if you have a better idea.

(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
files.)

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 22:55:21 -0400,
  Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
 for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
 files.)

I don't remember what I did for 9.0. I either found that stuff or I did
a dump and restore.

Anyway, I have done an upgrade on an instance I use for a local wiki and
things seem to be working. I'll continue to do some more testing, but I
think the update passes sanity tests.
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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-12 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
   Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
 ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
 Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
 before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

 I'll test an in place upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, reloading a small database
 from some scripts I have, and making sure some selects used by cgi scripts
 appear to work correctly. I should be able to get this done Monday evening.
 (I'll pull packages from koji, so I won't need to wait for it to move to
 updates-testing.)

OK, it's built and filed at
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16

If anyone out there uses JDBC, that driver could use some testing too:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-jdbc-9.1.901-1.fc16

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400,
  Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 OK, it's built and filed at
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16

One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and
service postgresql help no longer work. I was hoping they'd redirect
to the systemd equivalents of the old function. Trying to find the
list of supported systemd functions for postgresql isn't going that
well, though I expect I'll eventually figure out where to look.
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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-12 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
 On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400,
   Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 OK, it's built and filed at
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16

 One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and
 service postgresql help no longer work. I was hoping they'd redirect
 to the systemd equivalents of the old function.

I would have liked that too, but systemd is completely unfriendly to
custom actions of that sort.  The new dispensation is that you have
to do postgresql-setup initdb or postgresql-setup upgrade.
This is documented in
/usr/share/doc/postgresql-*/README.rpm-dist
and in the F16 release notes at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Beats/DatabaseServers
I'm willing to document it somewhere else if you have a better idea.

(This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0
for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd
files.)

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2011/7/2 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
 Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.

 If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16.  I would put the odds
 of that no better than 50-50, though.  I'm not going to push a new major
 PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline
 only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.

I see a new tag in git repo REL9_1_0 :)

F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to
upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.


 Of course, you could always use the PGDG RPMs whenever you think 9.1 is
 stable enough for your taste.  I'm sure Devrim will be producing RPMs
 for F16 as soon as it's released.

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:03 +0200,
  Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 2011/7/2 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
  =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
  Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
  9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
 
  If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16.  I would put the odds
  of that no better than 50-50, though.  I'm not going to push a new major
  PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline
  only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.
 
 I see a new tag in git repo REL9_1_0 :)
 
 F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to
 upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.

The beta freeze starts two weeks before that and even if it gets in the next
couple of days it is going to need testing to get positive karma before
making it to updates on time. So there is really extremely little time to
get 9.1 in in time for f16 beta.
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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Tom Lane
Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
 On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:03 +0200,
   Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to
 upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.

 The beta freeze starts two weeks before that and even if it gets in the next
 couple of days it is going to need testing to get positive karma before
 making it to updates on time. So there is really extremely little time to
 get 9.1 in in time for f16 beta.

Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:27:53 -0400,
  Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
 ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
 Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
 before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

I'll test an in place upgrade from 9.0 to 9.1, reloading a small database
from some scripts I have, and making sure some selects used by cgi scripts
appear to work correctly. I should be able to get this done Monday evening.
(I'll pull packages from koji, so I won't need to wait for it to move to
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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
 ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
 Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
 before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

I'd be happy to do some testing on Monday as well.

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/9/11 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to writes:
 On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:13:03 +0200,
   Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
 F16 beta is targeted at 2011-09-27, so there is still a little time to
 upgrade PostgreSQL for this release.

 The beta freeze starts two weeks before that and even if it gets in the next
 couple of days it is going to need testing to get positive karma before
 making it to updates on time. So there is really extremely little time to
 get 9.1 in in time for f16 beta.

 Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
 ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
 Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
 before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this
will have some test value.


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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Tom Lane
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
 2011/9/11 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
 ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
 Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
 before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

 I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this
 will have some test value.

F15 is where I've been doing my own testing.  It's the F16 packages that
would need karma, though.

The database weenie in me says that trying to push 9.1.0 into F16 at
this late date is insane.  I'm willing to do it if we can get enough
testing attention, but I think it has to be honest testing in an
F16-alpha environment.

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-09-11 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/9/11 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
 2011/9/11 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 Yeah.  I have done test packaging of 9.1rc1 already, so it's pretty much
 ready to go on my end.  I would be prepared to push 9.1 into f16 on
 Monday if there were enough people willing to test and up-karma it
 before the freeze ... any volunteers out there?

 I don't have F16, but I can rebuild packages and test on F15 if this
 will have some test value.

 F15 is where I've been doing my own testing.  It's the F16 packages that
 would need karma, though.

I tried to upgrade to F16 at Wednesday, but preupgrade failed
somewhere. Next week I will not be able to upgrade because my vacation
ended and I need a fully functioning system over the next few days
(I've got a large webapp deployment). So I am afraid that I will not
be useful for testing PGSQL 9.1 on F16.


 The database weenie in me says that trying to push 9.1.0 into F16 at
 this late date is insane.  I'm willing to do it if we can get enough
 testing attention, but I think it has to be honest testing in an
 F16-alpha environment.

If I find some time I'll try to install F16 on VM, but I do not know
whether such tests will be useful. It seems to me that best and most
valuable tests would be just do some regular work on DB.


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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-05 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/7/4 Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com:
 Excerpts from Michał Piotrowski's message of Mon Jul 04 13:11:06 +0200 2011:
 Unfortunately I do not have enough java programming experience to help
 you in fixing problems.

 There might be a more simple way to do it though. There was already a
 started lucene3 review that would be able to live in parallel with
 current lucene 2.x. In the end it wasn't finished, but if you feel up
 to it you can continue:
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664826

Thanks for the link, I'll look at this tonight and see if I can help.
(Although I have no experience with creating spec files, but I will
try to remove at least a few rpmlint warnings)


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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-04 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
 
 It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene
 2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.
As the Lucene maintainer I feel obligated to answer the Lucene part of the 
question.
No, there won't be 3.3 in F16 unless someone else steps as the official 
maintainer or a miracle happens and more people start to work on the 
underlying Java stack. Updating Lucene is so low in my todo list that I don't 
envision it happening soon. Note that I don't mind Lucene update actually I'm 
all for it but I don't have the time(now) to deal with bugs caused by API 
breaking release so if someone wants to update he will have to sign up for 
them - i.e. becoming the official maintainer.

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-04 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2011/7/4 Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com:
 On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
 Hi,

 Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.

 It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene
 2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.
 As the Lucene maintainer I feel obligated to answer the Lucene part of the
 question.
 No, there won't be 3.3 in F16 unless someone else steps as the official
 maintainer or a miracle happens and more people start to work on the
 underlying Java stack. Updating Lucene is so low in my todo list that I don't
 envision it happening soon. Note that I don't mind Lucene update actually I'm
 all for it but I don't have the time(now) to deal with bugs caused by API
 breaking release so if someone wants to update he will have to sign up for
 them - i.e. becoming the official maintainer.

Unfortunately I do not have enough java programming experience to help
you in fixing problems.

Thanks for your answer.


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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-04 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
Excerpts from Michał Piotrowski's message of Mon Jul 04 13:11:06 +0200 2011:
 Hi,

 2011/7/4 Alexander Kurtakov akurt...@redhat.com:
  On 09:34:10 AM Saturday, July 02, 2011 Michał Piotrowski wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
  9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.
 
  It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene
  2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.
  As the Lucene maintainer I feel obligated to answer the Lucene part of the
  question.
  No, there won't be 3.3 in F16 unless someone else steps as the official
  maintainer or a miracle happens and more people start to work on the
  underlying Java stack. Updating Lucene is so low in my todo list that I 
  don't
  envision it happening soon. Note that I don't mind Lucene update actually 
  I'm
  all for it but I don't have the time(now) to deal with bugs caused by API
  breaking release so if someone wants to update he will have to sign up for
  them - i.e. becoming the official maintainer.

 Unfortunately I do not have enough java programming experience to help
 you in fixing problems.

There might be a more simple way to do it though. There was already a
started lucene3 review that would be able to live in parallel with
current lucene 2.x. In the end it wasn't finished, but if you feel up
to it you can continue:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664826

Good luck,

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PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-02 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.

It would be nice to see Lucene Core in F16. There is an old Lucene
2.9.x for F16 - the latest upstream version is 3.3.

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-02 Thread Tom Lane
=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
 Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.

If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16.  I would put the odds
of that no better than 50-50, though.  I'm not going to push a new major
PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline
only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.

Of course, you could always use the PGDG RPMs whenever you think 9.1 is
stable enough for your taste.  I'm sure Devrim will be producing RPMs
for F16 as soon as it's released.

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Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

2011-07-02 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/7/2 Tom Lane t...@redhat.com:
 =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= mkkp...@gmail.com writes:
 Are there any plans to provide PostgreSQL 9.1 in Fedora 16? PostgreSQL
 9.1 is in beta2 now and it's scheduled for Q3 2011.

 If upstream releases it in time, it'll be in F16.  I would put the odds
 of that no better than 50-50, though.  I'm not going to push a new major
 PG release into F16 post-beta, and with the F16 beta change deadline
 only 2 months away, it's pretty iffy.

Ok, thanks for the information.


 Of course, you could always use the PGDG RPMs whenever you think 9.1 is
 stable enough for your taste.  I'm sure Devrim will be producing RPMs
 for F16 as soon as it's released.

I'm tracking his svn repo, but PGSQL 9.1 wasn't updated from alpha3 so
I guess that he has a lot of other activities than providing latest
and greatest PostgreSQL version :)


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