Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenStack Grizzly

2013-01-23 Thread Pádraig Brady

On 01/23/2013 09:42 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:

Michael Scherer (m...@zarb.org) said:

While it may be harder to predict the feature that will land in
Openstack at this point, would it be possible to have at least a idea of
the new features and changes that such upgrade will bring ?

It is hard to say if this is a good idea or not without it, and hard to
write a good marketing pitch based on this.


The desktop features usually do some of this, where they mention not just
the new version, but the major improvements in that new version.


I'd already included a summary of major new features in the release notes 
section:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenStack_Grizzly#Release_Notes
We'll continue to update as the release approaches.


Also, I note: "Upgrades from Folsom to Grizzly may need significant upstream
work to achieve."  Do we know what sort of work this may imply?


So in summary fully live upgrade probably wont be possible
for grizzly, but the upgrade procedure should at least be simplified.

Here are notes on Diablo -> Essex which was an awkward transition:
https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg16199.html

Here are notes on upgrading Essex to Folsom which is better:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Getting_started_with_OpenStack_EPEL

Here are related notes from the last OpenStack Design summit
detailing planned improvements to Grizzly in this area:
https://etherpad.openstack.org/grizzly-live-upgrade
https://etherpad.openstack.org/GrizzlyUpgradeGrenade
https://etherpad.openstack.org/grizzly-quantum-upgrade-path

thanks,
Pádraig.
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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenStack Grizzly

2013-01-23 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michael Scherer (m...@zarb.org) said: 
> While it may be harder to predict the feature that will land in
> Openstack at this point, would it be possible to have at least a idea of
> the new features and changes that such upgrade will bring ?
> 
> It is hard to say if this is a good idea or not without it, and hard to
> write a good marketing pitch based on this.

The desktop features usually do some of this, where they mention not just
the new version, but the major improvements in that new version.

Also, I note: "Upgrades from Folsom to Grizzly may need significant upstream
work to achieve."  Do we know what sort of work this may imply?

Bill
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Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenStack Grizzly

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 23 janvier 2013 à 18:35 +, Jaroslav Reznik a écrit :
> = Features/OpenStack Grizzly =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenStack_Grizzly
> 
> Feature owner(s): Pádraig Brady  
> 
> OpenStack will be upgraded to the next major stable release, called 
> "Grizzly". 
> In addition the new OpenStack "heat" and "ceilometer" incubation projects 
> will 
> be included.
> 
> == Detailed description ==
> OpenStack is an open source cloud computing platform. It lets you set up your 
> own cloud infrastructure, similar to public clouds like Amazon EC2, Azure, 
> etc.
> 
> In Fedora 18 OpenStack Folsom was packaged and in Fedora 19 we aim to package 
> OpenStack "Grizzly", including both incubation projects "heat" and 
> "ceilometer"
> 
> Grizzly is not released yet, but is scheduled to be released roughly over the 
> same development period as Fedora 19, and we are working closely with 
> upstream 
> to ensure this happens.

While it may be harder to predict the feature that will land in
Openstack at this point, would it be possible to have at least a idea of
the new features and changes that such upgrade will bring ?

It is hard to say if this is a good idea or not without it, and hard to
write a good marketing pitch based on this.

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Proposed F19 Feature: OpenStack Grizzly

2013-01-23 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/OpenStack Grizzly =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OpenStack_Grizzly

Feature owner(s): Pádraig Brady  

OpenStack will be upgraded to the next major stable release, called "Grizzly". 
In addition the new OpenStack "heat" and "ceilometer" incubation projects will 
be included.

== Detailed description ==
OpenStack is an open source cloud computing platform. It lets you set up your 
own cloud infrastructure, similar to public clouds like Amazon EC2, Azure, 
etc.

In Fedora 18 OpenStack Folsom was packaged and in Fedora 19 we aim to package 
OpenStack "Grizzly", including both incubation projects "heat" and 
"ceilometer"

Grizzly is not released yet, but is scheduled to be released roughly over the 
same development period as Fedora 19, and we are working closely with upstream 
to ensure this happens.

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