Re: RFC: httpd-filesystem proposal

2014-03-31 Thread Matthew Miller 
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 02:02:28PM +0100, Joe Orton wrote:
> > I don't think gnome-user-share is installed by default anymore (or used by
> > anyone?), but maybe we could finally really solve
> > , while we are at it. :)
> I still don't really know what is required there other than "make httpd 
> smaller".  There are probably a few small things we can do there but I 
> don't know of anything which could make a big difference.

That one was never about size. I think separating the binary from the
service control scripts would do it -- I haven't looked at gnome-user-share
since then, but at the time at least, the C source had code to write out a
temporary config file and launch the daemon from that. So, splitting the
*server* config and systemd units from the binary would do it. (For
continuity, put that in httpd and then the binaries in httpd-bin.)

But, also, the other part of my original complaint (httpd installed on
default desktop installs) does seem to have been addressed back in f15 --
gnome-user-share isn't in comps anymore, and I don't think anything pulls it
in.

Also, sorry for the sarcastic and grumpy tone back in that original bug. I
still agree with what I said, but I'd put it in a nicer tone these days. :)

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Re: RFC: httpd-filesystem proposal

2014-03-31 Thread Joe Orton 
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 07:55:19AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> I don't think gnome-user-share is installed by default anymore (or used by
> anyone?), but maybe we could finally really solve
> , while we are at it. :)

I still don't really know what is required there other than "make httpd 
smaller".  There are probably a few small things we can do there but I 
don't know of anything which could make a big difference.

Regards, Joe
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Re: RFC: httpd-filesystem proposal

2014-03-28 Thread Bastien Nocera 


- Original Message -
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:41:55AM +, Joe Orton wrote:
> > We're proposing to add an httpd-filesystem subpackage which will
> > simplify some dependency problems; particularly for packages which want
> > to contain files owned by the "apache" user, but don't need a dependency
> > on httpd itself.
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1081453
> > Any comments welcome, either here on the bug.
> 
> +1 to more subpacking for httpd.
> 
> I don't think gnome-user-share is installed by default anymore

It should be.

> (or used by
> anyone?),

It's used by anyone who needs ObexPush and ObexFTP targets for their phones. 
It's
also natively integrated in GNOME's Sharing settings, or needs an easy way to 
share
files between machines.

> but maybe we could finally really solve
> , while we are at it. :)

It's still smaller than pulling in perl, which some packages seem to do 
willy-nilly.
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Re: RFC: httpd-filesystem proposal

2014-03-27 Thread Matthew Miller 
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:41:55AM +, Joe Orton wrote:
> We're proposing to add an httpd-filesystem subpackage which will 
> simplify some dependency problems; particularly for packages which want 
> to contain files owned by the "apache" user, but don't need a dependency 
> on httpd itself.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1081453
> Any comments welcome, either here on the bug.

+1 to more subpacking for httpd.

I don't think gnome-user-share is installed by default anymore (or used by
anyone?), but maybe we could finally really solve
, while we are at it. :)

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RFC: httpd-filesystem proposal

2014-03-27 Thread Joe Orton 
We're proposing to add an httpd-filesystem subpackage which will 
simplify some dependency problems; particularly for packages which want 
to contain files owned by the "apache" user, but don't need a dependency 
on httpd itself.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1081453

Any comments welcome, either here on the bug.

Regards, Joe
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