Re: GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+

2022-08-30 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 2:05 AM Tomáš Popela  wrote:
>
> Hi Sérgio,
>
> Dne so 27. 8. 2022 21:53 uživatel Sérgio Basto  napsal:
>>
>> As Kevin Kofler (more or less) wrote in "Pcre Deprecation" thread,
>> maybe we should be prepared to support pcre-1 forever and IMO we also
>> can extend the concept to other packages, btw GTK2 is one of them .
>>
>>
>> Checking on rawhide gtk2 still have 385 packages that depend on gtk2
>> ...
>
>
> Please don't mix apple and oranges - the email is about RHEL and not about 
> Fedora. We don't have any intentions for removing GTK 2 from Fedora (at least 
> not for the foreseeable future) and even if that would happen, we would 
> orphan the package so anyone from the community can step in.
>
> Bye,
> Tom

Since that orange grows in the apple orange, and since RHEL is based
on Fedora, it seems a reasonable concern. We just had this with
python2 and python3, which is still messy.
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Re: GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+

2022-08-29 Thread Tomáš Popela
Hi Sérgio,

Dne so 27. 8. 2022 21:53 uživatel Sérgio Basto  napsal:

> As Kevin Kofler (more or less) wrote in "Pcre Deprecation" thread,
> maybe we should be prepared to support pcre-1 forever and IMO we also
> can extend the concept to other packages, btw GTK2 is one of them .
>
>
> Checking on rawhide gtk2 still have 385 packages that depend on gtk2
> ...


Please don't mix apple and oranges - the email is about RHEL and not about
Fedora. We don't have any intentions for removing GTK 2 from Fedora (at
least not for the foreseeable future) and even if that would happen, we
would orphan the package so anyone from the community can step in.

Bye,
Tom
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Re: GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+

2022-08-29 Thread Tomáš Popela
Hi Kevin,

Dne so 27. 8. 2022 1:44 uživatel Kevin Kofler via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> napsal:

> Tomáš Popela wrote:
> > This is an early heads-up about GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+ (the gtk2
> > package was marked as unwanted in ELN with
> >
> https://github.com/minimization/content-resolver-input/commit/b6d44e496f46bd2444e8e24dd3e9113b326817ac
> ).
>
> I suppose it could be carried in EPEL if needed.


Yes, definitely someone can come in and package it in EPEL if they want to.

Or is somebody attempting
> to veto that too?
>

I don't see why anyone would do that.

Bye,
Tom
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Re: GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+

2022-08-27 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sat, 2022-08-27 at 01:44 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Tomáš Popela wrote:
> > This is an early heads-up about GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+ (the
> > gtk2
> > package was marked as unwanted in ELN with
> > https://github.com/minimization/content-resolver-input/commit/b6d44e496f46bd2444e8e24dd3e9113b326817ac
> > ).
> 
> I suppose it could be carried in EPEL if needed. Or is somebody
> attempting 
> to veto that too?
> 

Finally I got this idea , we should have the *archived packages group*,
that can be excluded from mass rebuild and gcc and python updates etc .
The rest of the idea is instead force the retirement of the package we
move it to the archive group , and by default archive group is not used
, but if any one need a library to run an obsoleted applications he can
.   

As Kevin Kofler (more or less) wrote in "Pcre Deprecation" thread,
maybe we should be prepared to support pcre-1 forever and IMO we also
can extend the concept to other packages, btw GTK2 is one of them .


Checking on rawhide gtk2 still have 385 packages that depend on gtk2
... 



-- 
Sérgio M. B.
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Re: GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+

2022-08-26 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Tomáš Popela wrote:
> This is an early heads-up about GTK 2 removal from RHEL 10+ (the gtk2
> package was marked as unwanted in ELN with
> https://github.com/minimization/content-resolver-input/commit/b6d44e496f46bd2444e8e24dd3e9113b326817ac).

I suppose it could be carried in EPEL if needed. Or is somebody attempting 
to veto that too?

Kevin Kofler
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