Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:29:54AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:

 There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
 submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review of
 a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
 package).

Review your own package?

I think the aim of the review process is, that a second one should have
a look on your package to verify, that your package mmets the package
guidelines and so on.

Most people may be blind against thier onw mistakes, so it makes sense
that anonther one take a look on the package which should introduced 
to Fedora.

Best Regards:

Jochen Schmitt
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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Christopher Meng
Sometimes sponsorship is quite easy, this is unfair to other people around:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1048966
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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread पराग़
Hi,

On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Jochen Schmitt joc...@herr-schmitt.dewrote:

 On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:29:54AM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:

  There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
  submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review
 of
  a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
  package).

 Review your own package?


New contributors can also review their own package and show what things
they found in their package like how they found they have correct upstream
source matching checksum, how they found license tag for their package,
what rpmlint output they found etc. This applies even for other packages
also waiting for review. But, here what Michael want to point out that
people waiting for their package review who are also waiting for
sponsorship should at least look into
http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html and provide
their review findings so that other people will come to know any issues in
their package and they can be updated/progressed further.


 I think the aim of the review process is, that a second one should have
 a look on your package to verify, that your package mmets the package
 guidelines and so on.


For a new contributor, if he submitted many packages then whichever package
first gets reviewed should get approved by sponsor member.



 Most people may be blind against thier onw mistakes, so it makes sense
 that anonther one take a look on the package which should introduced
 to Fedora.



Regards,
Parag
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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Matthias Runge
On 01/12/2014 10:29 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 Some thoughts:
 
   http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html
   http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/
 
   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group
 
 There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
 submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review of
 a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
 package).
 
 Many packager sponsors consider that a problem. I'm not the spokesperson
 of all packager sponsors, though. ;)
 
Yes, I share this concern. Doing informal reviews is a significant part
of getting sponsored. I'd expect packagers to review their own review
requests (just to be sure, the first review doesn't fail for quite
obvious reasons).

Matthias
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Re: How to get packager sponsorship

2014-01-12 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:16:42 +0100, Jochen Schmitt wrote:

  There is a growing number of people in the NEEDSPONSOR queue, who have
  submitted a single package only and who don't attempt at doing a review of
  a different package in the various queues (not even a review of the own
  package).
 
 Review your own package?

Of course! Everybody may review packages and even post the results.
Approving packages is something else.
 
 I think the aim of the review process is, that a second one should have
 a look on your package to verify, that your package mmets the package
 guidelines and so on.

Sure. That's the requirement for approval. You can only submit packages,
which meet the guidelines, if you review your own package. ;)
 
 Most people may be blind against thier onw mistakes, so it makes sense
 that anonther one take a look on the package which should introduced 
 to Fedora.

According to that theory, they would introduce the same mistakes once the
package has entered the collection, ... because there is no review process
for updates/upgrades anymore.
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