Re: Process to remove "abandoned" packages?
Dne 09. 08. 22 v 13:21 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): On 09. 08. 22 13:06, Vít Ondruch wrote: You can't retire package with provenpackager powers. If that was possible, I'd probably do that. Actually, you can. Ah, I have not realized that I probably can use `fedpkg retire`, but I'd be worried about side effects as Mattia noted in other parts of this thread. Nevertheless, I'd still prefer to orphan the packages instead. I think this gives backup opportunity if something goes wrong. I'll probably try to draft some policy and propose it to FESCo. Vít OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Process to remove "abandoned" packages?
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 5:30 PM Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Il 09/08/22 13:21, Miro Hrončok ha scritto: > > On 09. 08. 22 13:06, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> You can't retire package with provenpackager powers. If that was possible, > >> I'd > >> probably do that. > > Actually, you can. > > > Yep, you can, but then the package will be in a "weird" state. I've > actually retired a few packages on behalf of the former maintainer, but > now the packages are retired but not orphaned and only the maintainer > can orphan them (or I should file a ticket). That is not a weird state at all, but the intended outcome. Just because a package will be removed from rawhide (and / or branched) does not mean that the maintainer does not want to continue maintaining it in stable branches. We already have a policy that orphans packages that are retired on *all branches*, which seems to be what you want. But orphaning a package that is retired in rawhide but still maintained in stable branches ... not an intended outcome, in my opinion. > BTW, it would be nice if the package list in src.fp.o could be filtered > out of retired packages so that users can focus on current owned > packages. Or, maybe, users should be able to remove themselves from > commit/collaborator rights (actually only admins can add / remove users > and groups). Fabio ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Process to remove "abandoned" packages?
Dne 09. 08. 22 v 12:20 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): However, if I really wanted to do this, I'd need to ask Mo, possibly use unresponsive maintainer policy. But that is too much hassle, so I'll probably leave it alone. Seems to me like similar process to what you suggests. The timeout will be likely the same. Miroslav ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Process to remove "abandoned" packages?
Il 09/08/22 13:21, Miro Hrončok ha scritto: > On 09. 08. 22 13:06, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> You can't retire package with provenpackager powers. If that was possible, >> I'd >> probably do that. > Actually, you can. > Yep, you can, but then the package will be in a "weird" state. I've actually retired a few packages on behalf of the former maintainer, but now the packages are retired but not orphaned and only the maintainer can orphan them (or I should file a ticket). BTW, it would be nice if the package list in src.fp.o could be filtered out of retired packages so that users can focus on current owned packages. Or, maybe, users should be able to remove themselves from commit/collaborator rights (actually only admins can add / remove users and groups). Mattia ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Process to remove "abandoned" packages?
On 09. 08. 22 13:06, Vít Ondruch wrote: You can't retire package with provenpackager powers. If that was possible, I'd probably do that. Actually, you can. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Process to remove "abandoned" packages?
Dne 09. 08. 22 v 12:29 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): On 09. 08. 22 12:20, Vít Ondruch wrote: Hi, I have removed last use of rubygem-memcache-client package in Fedora minutes ago: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rubygem-rack/c/7490abe4066b965d222764acf0ae164788cf1721 and I think that rubygem-memcache-client would deserve to be retired from Fedora, because it is deprecated upstream for ~12 years and it functionality replaced by rubygem-dalli. However, if I really wanted to do this, I'd need to ask Mo, possibly use unresponsive maintainer policy. But that is too much hassle, so I'll probably leave it alone. But I'd really love to see some process to get such packages removed in much easier way. E.g.: 1. Open FESCo ticket with the request request 2. Send email to Fedora devel ML to collect feedback I'd do this, cc the maintainer. Assume they agree / don't care if they don't argue against it. 3. Within some timeout, make a decision based on the feedback Use provenpacakger powers to retire the package. You can't retire package with provenpackager powers. If that was possible, I'd probably do that. And also, I really think that it would be enough to orphan the package and the rest of the process has been well established already. Vít That should follow the spirit of https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Who_is_allowed_to_modify_which_packages/#digest OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Process to remove "abandoned" packages?
On 09. 08. 22 12:20, Vít Ondruch wrote: Hi, I have removed last use of rubygem-memcache-client package in Fedora minutes ago: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rubygem-rack/c/7490abe4066b965d222764acf0ae164788cf1721 and I think that rubygem-memcache-client would deserve to be retired from Fedora, because it is deprecated upstream for ~12 years and it functionality replaced by rubygem-dalli. However, if I really wanted to do this, I'd need to ask Mo, possibly use unresponsive maintainer policy. But that is too much hassle, so I'll probably leave it alone. But I'd really love to see some process to get such packages removed in much easier way. E.g.: 1. Open FESCo ticket with the request request 2. Send email to Fedora devel ML to collect feedback I'd do this, cc the maintainer. Assume they agree / don't care if they don't argue against it. 3. Within some timeout, make a decision based on the feedback Use provenpacakger powers to retire the package. That should follow the spirit of https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Who_is_allowed_to_modify_which_packages/#digest -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
