Re: My apologies... [Was: Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk]

2010-08-23 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 23:03 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: 
 Hi, all.
 
 As the primary maintainer of Fedora's WebKitGTK+ stack, allow me first
 to apologize for my lack of diligence here. Let me simply say that I
 know now that almost maxing-out one's unit counts for a semester,
 double-majoring, and severe bouts of procrastination without cause are
 three things that most certainly do not go well together. XD ...But on a
 happier note, I managed to survive and pull through just such a semester
 well enough, so now I should be back to my regular Fedora hackery.
 
 I'm just getting the hang of this cool new Git thing (:D), so I should
 be able to properly update my packages within the next few days. I
 sincerely appreciate others' taking care of my packages while I was
 unavailable.
Hi Peter,

I'd like to help you with maintaining the webkitgtk package in Fedora so
I applied for the commit acl in pkgdb. My fas username is mso. If it's
all right with you, could you please approve me?

Thanks,
Martin


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Re: My apologies... [Was: Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk]

2010-08-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:56:02 +0200
Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 23:03 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote: 
  Hi, all.
  
  As the primary maintainer of Fedora's WebKitGTK+ stack, allow me
  first to apologize for my lack of diligence here. Let me simply say
  that I know now that almost maxing-out one's unit counts for a
  semester, double-majoring, and severe bouts of procrastination
  without cause are three things that most certainly do not go well
  together. XD ...But on a happier note, I managed to survive and
  pull through just such a semester well enough, so now I should be
  back to my regular Fedora hackery.
  
  I'm just getting the hang of this cool new Git thing (:D), so I
  should be able to properly update my packages within the next few
  days. I sincerely appreciate others' taking care of my packages
  while I was unavailable.
 Hi Peter,
 
 I'd like to help you with maintaining the webkitgtk package in Fedora
 so I applied for the commit acl in pkgdb. My fas username is mso. If
 it's all right with you, could you please approve me?

I also applied and would be happy to help... 

kevin



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My apologies... [Was: Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk]

2010-08-04 Thread Peter Gordon
Hi, all.

As the primary maintainer of Fedora's WebKitGTK+ stack, allow me first
to apologize for my lack of diligence here. Let me simply say that I
know now that almost maxing-out one's unit counts for a semester,
double-majoring, and severe bouts of procrastination without cause are
three things that most certainly do not go well together. XD ...But on a
happier note, I managed to survive and pull through just such a semester
well enough, so now I should be back to my regular Fedora hackery.

I'm just getting the hang of this cool new Git thing (:D), so I should
be able to properly update my packages within the next few days. I
sincerely appreciate others' taking care of my packages while I was
unavailable.

Alas, the usage of ABRT over the past few months or so has significantly
increased the count of bugs reported against WebKitGTK/Midori, and
continued assistance in squashing/triaging these would be greatly
appreciated!

Thanks again, and Regards.⌣
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Re: My apologies... [Was: Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk]

2010-08-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
 On 08/04/2010 11:33 AM, Peter Gordon wrote:
 Alas, the usage of ABRT over the past few months or so has significantly
 increased the count of bugs reported against WebKitGTK/Midori, and
 continued assistance in squashing/triaging these would be greatly
 appreciated!

I think it would be useful for you to actively seek out co-maintainers
so that others can help out when you are busy. 

Rahul
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Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-03 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 09:24 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty
 important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last
 update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in
 the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there where three upstream
 bugfix (no API/ABI changes) releases, last of which even contains a
 bunch of CVE fixes. I've filed a bug asking for update about 2 weeks ago
 [1][2] with no response. I'd be willing to help co-maintaining it, if
 there's shortcoming of time on the current maintainers' side.

To be fair, you sent this mail at the week-end, straight after the CVS
was unaccessible due to the git migration.

If there were CVEs, why wasn't the security team involved?

Most of the people that look after the desktop packages were either at
GUADEC with limited internet connectivity, or on holidays.

Feel free to nag on on #fedora-desktop on GIMPNet.

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Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-03 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 09:43 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: 
 On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 09:24 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty
  important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last
  update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in
  the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there where three upstream
  bugfix (no API/ABI changes) releases, last of which even contains a
  bunch of CVE fixes. I've filed a bug asking for update about 2 weeks ago
  [1][2] with no response. I'd be willing to help co-maintaining it, if
  there's shortcoming of time on the current maintainers' side.
 
 To be fair, you sent this mail at the week-end, straight after the CVS
 was unaccessible due to the git migration.
Sorry about that, that was not intentional... My mistake.

 If there were CVEs, why wasn't the security team involved?
 
Don't know. I'm not sure the fixed CVE's are even know to the security
team, but they're CVEs that were fixed by debian security team and
upstreamed (is there any kind of cooperation with other distros security
teams?). I've added the Security keyword to the bugs referenced in my
previous email. Not sure if that is enough?

 Most of the people that look after the desktop packages were either at
 GUADEC with limited internet connectivity, or on holidays.
 
Well, the problem is more long standing. To me webkitgtk looks
absolutely neglected on stable fedora releases (yes, I'm receiving the
bugzilla reports for webkitgtk and see no updates on them, as well as no
commits in cvs/git other then devel/f14). Long term.

 Feel free to nag on on #fedora-desktop on GIMPNet.
 
Thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks,
Martin


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Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:01:37 pm Martin Sourada wrote:
 On Tue,
2010-08-03 at 09:43 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
  On Sun, 2010-08-01 at
09:24 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I've been
wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's
   pretty
important gnome desktop component but it looks rather
   neglected. Last
update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul
   who even isn't
in the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there
   where three
upstream bugfix (no API/ABI changes) releases, last of
   which even
contains a bunch of CVE fixes. I've filed a bug asking for
   update
about 2 weeks ago [1][2] with no response. I'd be willing to
   help
co-maintaining it, if there's shortcoming of time on the current
  
maintainers' side.
  
  To be fair, you sent this mail at the week-end,
straight after the CVS
  was unaccessible due to the git migration.
 

Sorry about that, that was not intentional... My mistake.
 
  If there
were CVEs, why wasn't the security team involved?
 
 Don't know. I'm not
sure the fixed CVE's are even know to the security
 team, but they're CVEs
that were fixed by debian security team and
 upstreamed (is there any kind
of cooperation with other distros security
 teams?). 

There's
webkit-security mailing list, I'm the member (+security response team people
are members too). There was one problem - at first, they wasn't aware
there's gtk webkit too ;-) And I wonder who's really responsible on this
side - so that's why I'd like to have WebKit team taking care about all
WebKits (and KHTML too) - as there's lot in common.  

Jaroslav

 I've
added the Security keyword to the bugs referenced in my
 previous email.
Not sure if that is enough?
 
  Most of the people that look after the
desktop packages were either at
  GUADEC with limited internet
connectivity, or on holidays.
 
 Well, the problem is more long standing.
To me webkitgtk looks
 absolutely neglected on stable fedora releases (yes,
I'm receiving the
 bugzilla reports for webkitgtk and see no updates on
them, as well as no
 commits in cvs/git other then devel/f14). Long term.


  Feel free to nag on on #fedora-desktop on GIMPNet.
 
 Thanks for the
suggestion.
 
 Thanks,
 Martin

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Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Sunday, August 01, 2010 09:24:28 am Martin Sourada wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've
been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty

important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last

update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in

the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there where three upstream

bugfix (no API/ABI changes) releases, last of which even contains a
 bunch
of CVE fixes. I've filed a bug asking for update about 2 weeks ago
 [1][2]
with no response. I'd be willing to help co-maintaining it, if
 there's
shortcoming of time on the current maintainers' side.

What we really need
is someone who would take care about all WebKit implementations in Fedora
and it's nearly full time job :-) Or even better - someone realizes that
shipping X nearly standalone webkits on Y toolkits is just a madness. We
need one real WebKit with tweaks to fit toolkits.

I'd like to join such
team - anyone else interested in?

Jaroslav

 Thanks,
 Martin
 

References:
 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615728
 [2]
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615729

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Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-02 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 09:28 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: 
 What we really need
 is someone who would take care about all WebKit implementations in Fedora
 and it's nearly full time job :-) Or even better - someone realizes that
 shipping X nearly standalone webkits on Y toolkits is just a madness. We
 need one real WebKit with tweaks to fit toolkits.
 
Basically you want to split WebCore and the other generic parts of
webkit and rebuild the platform specific versions upon it? That would be
a hell lot of work... You know, the different ports use different
javascript engines (well, basically AFAIK only chromium does...), they
use different network libraries (libcurl vs. libsoup on linux),
different font rendering engine, ... Plus, this effort should be carried
over together with upstream. Plus there's WebKit2 development going on
(not sure what stage it is at right now, though) and the ports will
switch to it sooner or later, so this would be IMHO a better starting
point.

 I'd like to join such
 team - anyone else interested in?
 
 Jaroslav
Martin


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Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:24:28 +0200
Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's
 pretty important gnome desktop component but it looks rather
 neglected. Last update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul
 who even isn't in the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there
 where three upstream bugfix (no API/ABI changes) releases, last of
 which even contains a bunch of CVE fixes. I've filed a bug asking for
 update about 2 weeks ago [1][2] with no response. I'd be willing to
 help co-maintaining it, if there's shortcoming of time on the current
 maintainers' side.

Not like I need another package, but I use midori full time and follow
webkitgtk somewhat, so I would be happy to be around to update it. 

I did build a local 1.2.3 version here to play around with it, so I
have the spec changes already, I'd be happy to commit/build/comaintain
too. 

kevin


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Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-01 Thread Ben Boeckel
Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty
 important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last
 update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in
 the commit acl's on webkitgtk and since then there where three upstream
 bugfix (no API/ABI changes) releases, last of which even contains a
 bunch of CVE fixes. I've filed a bug asking for update about 2 weeks ago
 [1][2] with no response. I'd be willing to help co-maintaining it, if
 there's shortcoming of time on the current maintainers' side.
 
 Thanks,
 Martin
 
 References:
 [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615728
 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=615729

I keep an eye on it to update my own local build of it without GConf and
gnome-keyring dependencies. I'd be interested in helping do actual
co-maintainership if needed. Also have some bugs against 1.3.2 with font
rendering I need to file….

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