Re: echoping - Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day
On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 13:23:06 +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: I would just open a FESCo ticket to get the package removed from Fedora. https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1388 Much more interesting would be to learn whether anyone has any ideas on how to prevent such issues in the future. The EOL-close-tickets procedure has failed for this package multiple times. And it's not even possible to rely on actual users of the package, if there isn't any response in bugzilla ever. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: echoping - Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day
On So, 2015-01-10 at 12:54 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: Big *sigh*. Guys, this is not funny anymore. Almost as if some people at Fedora try to test how long one can keep one's temper. Well, this is embarrasing and not casting a positive light on the Fedora Project package collection: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/460557 Package and software are in a desolate state Reported: 2008-08-28 11:58:50 EDT No response in bugzilla. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=555956 Not updated since F14. I would just open a FESCo ticket to get the package removed from Fedora. -- Tomas Mraz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb (You'll never know whether the road is wrong though.) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: echoping - Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day
On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 01:23:36 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: * Last upstream release is from 2007 and the same as offered by Fedora. Then it's not the Fedora maintainer who is not doing his/her job. At Fedora, it is _mispackaged_ and untested to begin with. The plugin packages likely have never been packaged properly before. The bugzilla ticket is still without a response after years. The ticket I mentioned was opened in 2008. In 2008 you could not predict that upstream would search for a new maintainer in 2011. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: echoping - Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day
Michael Schwendt wrote: * Last upstream release is from 2007 and the same as offered by Fedora. Then it's not the Fedora maintainer who is not doing his/her job. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: echoping - Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day
On 2015-01-10, 11:54 GMT, Michael Schwendt wrote: Guys, this is not funny anymore. Almost as if some people at Fedora try to test how long one can keep one's temper. Well, this is embarrasing and not casting a positive light on the Fedora Project package collection: I would just go ahead with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: echoping - Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day
On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:54:27PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: Big *sigh*. Guys, this is not funny anymore. Almost as if some people at Fedora try to test how long one can keep one's temper. Well, this is embarrasing and not casting a positive light on the Fedora Project package collection: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/460557 Package and software are in a desolate state Reported: 2008-08-28 11:58:50 EDT No response in bugzilla. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=555956 Not updated since F14. And https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1007031 Is it time to remove echoping from Fedora? -- Tomasz Torcz ,,If you try to upissue this patchset I shall be seeking xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl an IP-routable hand grenade.'' -- Andrew Morton (LKML) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
Re: echoping - Re: Hundreds of bugzilla mails on one day
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:44:39 +0100, Matěj Cepl wrote: I would just go ahead with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers As much sense as this procedure may make in _some_ cases, it has been a failure for other packagers before. They emerge only to end the procedure and hide again afterwards (only a matter of days/weeks/months) without taking care of the packages. * Last upstream release is from 2007 and the same as offered by Fedora. * Package has not been worked on since the showstopper bug report for F10. * Upstream is seeking for a new maintainer since 2011. I don't want to take over the package either, so it simply doesn't make sense to start a tedious procedure, which could be started for other similarly non-responsive packagers, too. Someone hides, and others take a lot of effort to get rid of the crap. Just like packagers, who acquire ownership of multiple hundred packages, this is one of the non-shiny sides of Fedora, unfortunately. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
