Re: grub1 support in grubby

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 09:05:19PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
 Given the grub1/grub2 discussion that is going on, I could use some info 
 about the state of grubby's support for grub1.  The virtual machine 
 images that the Cloud SIG publishes on Amazon EC2 do not require 
 bootloaders, but they do require valid grub1 *configuration files* to 
 start.  So while these images will survive grub1's eventual retirement, 
 they will still need grubby to support grub1 configuration files for the 
 foreseeable future so kernel updates can continue to work correctly.  Is 
 that realistic?  Are there currently any plans to kill off grubby's 
 grub1 support at some point?

In case anyone is wondering what Amazon is up to, the PDF document
below explains it in detail:

http://ec2-downloads.s3.amazonaws.com/user_specified_kernels.pdf
also this announcement:
http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2010/07/use-your-own-kernel-with-amazon-ec2.html

(In short, pvgrub!  I thought that was dead and buried a long time ago ..)

Rich.

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Re: grub1 support in grubby

2011-09-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 09:58:53AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 (In short, pvgrub!  I thought that was dead and buried a long time ago ..)

Of course I'm confusing this with PyGrub, that was the old horrible
thing.  PvGrub is the shiny new thing.

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Re: grub1 support in grubby

2011-09-22 Thread Peter Jones
On 09/22/2011 12:05 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
 Given the grub1/grub2 discussion that is going on, I could use some info 
 about the state of grubby's support for grub1.  The virtual machine 
 images that the Cloud SIG publishes on Amazon EC2 do not require 
 bootloaders, but they do require valid grub1 *configuration files* to 
 start.  So while these images will survive grub1's eventual retirement, 
 they will still need grubby to support grub1 configuration files for the 
 foreseeable future so kernel updates can continue to work correctly.  Is 
 that realistic?  Are there currently any plans to kill off grubby's 
 grub1 support at some point?

Grubby will continue to support the grub 1 style config file.

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Re: grub1 support in grubby

2011-09-22 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 09/22/2011 09:09 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
 Grubby will continue to support the grub 1 style config file.

Just to confirm ...

Does this mean that a RHEL 6/Fedora dual-boot system using grub 1 will
continue to work (i.e. Fedora kernel updates will properly update the
grub 1 configuration)?

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Re: grub1 support in grubby

2011-09-22 Thread Peter Jones
On 09/22/2011 04:31 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote:
 On 09/22/2011 09:09 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
 Grubby will continue to support the grub 1 style config file.

 Just to confirm ...

 Does this mean that a RHEL 6/Fedora dual-boot system using grub 1 will
 continue to work (i.e. Fedora kernel updates will properly update the
 grub 1 configuration)?

Off the top of my head yes, assuming nothing weirder than that is going on.

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