Re: update on ca-certificates, introducing the ca-legacy utility

2014-12-02 Thread Kai Engert
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 17:17 +0100, Kai Engert wrote:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc19
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc20

I'd appreciate more testing feedback.

I'd like to push these packages into the stable updates channel, soon.

Thanks in advance,
Kai


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Re: update on ca-certificates, introducing the ca-legacy utility

2014-11-21 Thread Kai Engert
FYI, I'm documenting the changes that we make on top of the Mozilla CA
list at:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CA-Certificates

Kai


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Re: update on ca-certificates, introducing the ca-legacy utility

2014-11-21 Thread Stephen Gallagher



On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 14:03 +0100, Kai Engert wrote:
 On Fri, 2014-10-31 at 14:05 +0100, Kai Engert wrote:
  All legacy root CA certificates, which seem to be required for full
  compatibility with either OpenSSL or GnuTLS, will continue to be
  included and enabled in the ca-certificates package.
  
  For users who are willing to accept the breakage and prefer using the
  latest trust, only, we provide a mechanism to disable the legacy trust.
  
  I've described the proposed approach in more detail at
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1158197
  
  I've pushed experimental packages with this implementation to Rawhide
  and updates-testing for Fedora 21. I have disabled the karma automatism,
  because I'll be offline for the next 2 weeks, and don't want things to
  go live while I'm away. I think it will be helpful to collect test
  feedback during that time, and see if it's suitable, and make a
  ship/no-ship decision of this approach later.
 
 
 In the meantime, while I was on vacation, the above has been
 (accidentally) pushed as a stable update for Fedora 21 already:
 ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc21.noarch
 
 It seems it will be included in the final release of Fedora 21. Given
 that we keep legacy trust enabled, and given that I haven't seen any
 problem reports, it's probably OK.
 
 Using the new ca-legacy utility, users/administrators who are willing to
 accept the compatibility issues and who prefer to closely follow the
 Mozilla CA trust decisions, can disable trust for the legacy root CA
 certificates as a systemwide configuration, by executing this command as
 root:
   ca-legacy disable
 
 The configuration will be remembered in /etc/pki/ca-trust/ca-legacy.conf
 and will be used on future package upgrades, when additional
 certificates are moved to the legacy state.
 
 If required, it's possible to undo the configuration and restore to the
 current default, using:
   ca-legacy enable
 
 The current configuration can be shown using:
   ca-legacy check
 
 Regarding Fedora 19 and Fedora 20:
 
 On F19/F20, GnuTLS is also affected by the breakage, when disabling
 trust for the legacy CAs, because GnuTLS has been enhanced in Fedora 21
 and later, only.
 
 Updated packages for F19 and F20, that provide the update to version 2.1
 of the ca-certificates list, and which also include the new ca-legacy
 utility and configuration mechanism, have been pushed to
 updates-testing:
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc19
 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ca-certificates-2014.2.1-1.5.fc20
 
 Kai
 
 

Kai, this is very important information buried at the bottom of a long
email thread; would you mind re-sending this summary in a new thread
(also to devel-announce) so that people are sure to see it?


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Re: update on ca-certificates, introducing the ca-legacy utility

2014-11-21 Thread Kai Engert
On Fri, 2014-11-21 at 10:45 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
 Kai, this is very important information buried at the bottom of a long
 email thread; would you mind re-sending this summary in a new thread
 (also to devel-announce) so that people are sure to see it?

done


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