Re: Reverting Python 3 Migration Improvements Change

2015-02-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:11:20 -0500 (EST)
Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have to inform you that I had to revert the Python 3 Migration
 Improvements change for F22 - more precisely, its parts that
 would've caused both Python 2 and Python 3 being on atomic host or
 minimal cloud image. The reason is mentioned in [1] - in short,
 policycoreutils-python3 has only partial functionality compared to
 policycoreutils-python, which I didn't understand from my
 communication with its maintainers previously. It's too late to
 implement and repackage that now, so I'm reverting the change.

...snip...

 Thanks for understanding. And huge thanks goes to everyone who took
 part in this effort. We really did tons of work and were very close -
 for F23, we're doing this!
 
 Regards,
 Slavek
 
 (damn, this was hard to write...)

I understand, but I think you made the right call. ;) 

We can do this right in F23 and get everything lined up now. 

Thanks a lot for all your work on this change. Its really appreciated
by me at least. 

kevin


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Re: Reverting Python 3 Migration Improvements Change

2015-02-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
 On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:11:20 -0500 (EST)
 Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I have to inform you that I had to revert the Python 3 Migration
 Improvements change for F22 - more precisely, its parts that
 would've caused both Python 2 and Python 3 being on atomic host or
 minimal cloud image. The reason is mentioned in [1] - in short,
 policycoreutils-python3 has only partial functionality compared to
 policycoreutils-python, which I didn't understand from my
 communication with its maintainers previously. It's too late to
 implement and repackage that now, so I'm reverting the change.

 ...snip...

 Thanks for understanding. And huge thanks goes to everyone who took
 part in this effort. We really did tons of work and were very close -
 for F23, we're doing this!

 Regards,
 Slavek

 (damn, this was hard to write...)

 I understand, but I think you made the right call. ;)

 We can do this right in F23 and get everything lined up now.

 Thanks a lot for all your work on this change. Its really appreciated
 by me at least.

Yes, same from me as well.  This is a great example of how a Change
should look when we reach and don't quite make it.  Great
communication throughout.

Thanks again.

josh
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Reverting Python 3 Migration Improvements Change

2015-02-23 Thread Bohuslav Kabrda
Hi,
I have to inform you that I had to revert the Python 3 Migration Improvements 
change for F22 - more precisely, its parts that would've caused both Python 2 
and Python 3 being on atomic host or minimal cloud image. The reason is 
mentioned in [1] - in short, policycoreutils-python3 has only partial 
functionality compared to policycoreutils-python, which I didn't understand 
from my communication with its maintainers previously. It's too late to 
implement and repackage that now, so I'm reverting the change.

I went on and asked maintainers of packages that are either on atomic host or 
minimal cloud image to revert the Python 3 changes in F22 (authconfig and 
firewalld) - I did this myself for packages that didn't seem to have 
maintainers online (pcp and gettext) - these are the packages marked with (*) 
in [2] (some of them were supposed to be rebuilt today, so I put a note in BZ 
to only rebuild for F23).
Since both Python interpreters have already been on livedvd for several 
releases, I think it's still safe to rebuild the rest with Python 3 (== those 
not marked with (*)) for F22, if their maintainers wish to do so. Either way, 
this change is not happening for F22 as submitted.

For F23, I'll do some updates to [3], then discuss the form of bugreport to 
mass file here and then do mass filing. Hopefully I'll get to this during this 
week or next week.

Thanks for understanding. And huge thanks goes to everyone who took part in 
this effort. We really did tons of work and were very close - for F23, we're 
doing this!

Regards,
Slavek

(damn, this was hard to write...)

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1194577#c4
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_Migration_Improvements#Scope
[3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Python_3_as_Default
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Re: Reverting Python 3 Migration Improvements Change

2015-02-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
 I have to inform you that I had to revert the Python 3 Migration
 Improvements change for F22 - more precisely, its parts that would've
 caused both Python 2 and Python 3 being on atomic host or minimal cloud
 image. The reason is mentioned in [1] - in short, policycoreutils-python3
 has only partial functionality compared to policycoreutils-python, which I
 didn't understand from my communication with its maintainers previously.

So we're stuck on an obsolete Python because of SELinux, grrr!

Kevin Kofler

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