Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-08-29 16:00 UTC)

2013-08-29 Thread Nicolas Mailhot

Le Jeu 29 août 2013 01:11, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit :

 #topic #336  Please clarify the General Naming Guidelines for packages
 .fpc 336
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/336

BTW Fedora font packages allow lowercase naming only.

The notion that tarball naming reflects in any accurate way upstream
preferences is as weird as it comes. Are we supposed to rename packages
every time upstream slightly changes its tarball naming? (as every project
that did not automate its release process commonly does?)

Moreover, our naming guidelines already mandate scores of adjustments to
try to make some sort of coherent repository of upstreams with wildly
different whims. Allowing mixed casing just sows confusion and induces new
packager mistakes (that they sorely regret once they can not change the
naming easily anymore).

Finally, if you want to strictly follow upstream choices please allow
unicode and not just base latin in package names. Arguing about case when
one can not even use upstream letters is a joke.

Regards,

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-08-29 16:00 UTC)

2013-08-28 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2013-08-29 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.

 Local time information (via. rktime):

2013-08-29 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT
2013-08-29 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT
2013-08-29 16:00 Thu UTC -
2013-08-29 17:00 Thu Europe/London  BST
2013-08-29 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris  CEST
2013-08-29 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST
2013-08-29 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta  IST
--new day--
2013-08-30 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT
2013-08-30 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT
2013-08-30 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST
2013-08-30 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST


 Links to all tickets below can be found at: 

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12

= Followups =

#topic #332 Bundling exception for IQmol
.fpc 332
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/332

= New business =

#topic #334 Create a macro for selecting the proper ruby-(abi|release) 
version
.fpc 334
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/334

#topic #336 Please clarify the General Naming Guidelines for packages
.fpc 336
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/336

#topic #337 Guidelines needed for header only libraries
.fpc 337
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/337

#topic #338 %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts
.fpc 338
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/338

#topic #339 software collections in Fedora
.fpc 339
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339

#topic #340 Bundling exception for nodeunit
.fpc 340
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/340

= Open Floor = 

 For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at:

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12


 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
the following meeting. 
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Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2013-08-29 16:00 UTC)

2013-08-28 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 04:26:58PM -0400, James Antill wrote:
  Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
 meeting Thursday at 2013-08-29 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
 irc.freenode.net.
 
  Local time information (via. rktime):
 
 2013-08-29 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT
 2013-08-29 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT
 2013-08-29 16:00 Thu UTC -
 2013-08-29 17:00 Thu Europe/London  BST
 2013-08-29 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris  CEST
 2013-08-29 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST
 2013-08-29 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta  IST
 --new day--
 2013-08-30 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT
 2013-08-30 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT
 2013-08-30 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST
 2013-08-30 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST
 
 
  Links to all tickets below can be found at: 
 
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12
 
 = Followups =
 
 #topic #332 Bundling exception for IQmol
 .fpc 332
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/332
 
 = New business =
 
 #topic #334   Create a macro for selecting the proper ruby-(abi|release) 
 version
 .fpc 334
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/334
 
 #topic #336   Please clarify the General Naming Guidelines for packages
 .fpc 336
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/336
 
 #topic #337   Guidelines needed for header only libraries
 .fpc 337
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/337
 
 #topic #338   %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts
 .fpc 338
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/338
 
 #topic #339   software collections in Fedora
 .fpc 339
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339
 
 #topic #340   Bundling exception for nodeunit
 .fpc 340
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/340
 
 = Open Floor = 
 
  For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
 report of the agenda items can be found at:
 
 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12
 
 
  If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to
 this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc,
 e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
 the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until
 the following meeting. 

Note, at some point we need to get these onto the agenda:

https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/314 proposed packaging guidelines change: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Akozumpl/No_bin_deps
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/303 Consider reverting decision to ban 
%{?_isa} in BuildRequires

I'm not sure how we're prioritising what gets listed on this written agenda
so I'm not sure how to make sure those get added to the queue.

-Toshio


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