Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-02-19)

2014-02-25 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message -
 On 02/19/2014 08:57 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote:
  * Open floor  (t8m, 19:45:44)
 * AGREED: FESCo expects the Tech specs/docs from working groups by
   March 3rd at the latest (+7, -0, 0:0)  (t8m, 19:50:38)
 * ACTION: t8m will update the weekly reports ticket with this request
   (t8m, 19:53:08)
 
 Env and Stacks WG are dependent on requirements from 3 products, so we
 probably can't deliver on 3rd March.

I expect the same for Base WG - we have to see overlapping ideas in tech
specs first.

Jaroslav

 
 Marcela
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-02-19)

2014-02-24 Thread Marcela Mašláňová

On 02/19/2014 08:57 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote:

* Open floor  (t8m, 19:45:44)
   * AGREED: FESCo expects the Tech specs/docs from working groups by
 March 3rd at the latest (+7, -0, 0:0)  (t8m, 19:50:38)
   * ACTION: t8m will update the weekly reports ticket with this request
 (t8m, 19:53:08)


Env and Stacks WG are dependent on requirements from 3 products, so we 
probably can't deliver on 3rd March.


Marcela
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-02-19)

2014-02-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Feb 24, 2014 1:46 AM, Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 02/19/2014 08:57 PM, Tomas Mraz wrote:

 * Open floor  (t8m, 19:45:44)
* AGREED: FESCo expects the Tech specs/docs from working groups by
  March 3rd at the latest (+7, -0, 0:0)  (t8m, 19:50:38)
* ACTION: t8m will update the weekly reports ticket with this request
  (t8m, 19:53:08)


 Env and Stacks WG are dependent on requirements from 3 products, so we
probably can't deliver on 3rd March.

We can start though.  For instance, we've decided that we're forging ahead
with the idea of a repo for less than perfect packages.  So we'll need the
support infrastructure for that.

- Disk space?
- hooked up to the mirror network?
- copr out of beta?
- what scripts and manpower does the new repo need?
- are we using bodhi, signing packages, etc?
- do we need a set of people who check what goes into the new repo?

-toshio
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-02-19)

2014-02-20 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote:
 * Open floor  (t8m, 19:45:44)
   * AGREED: FESCo expects the Tech specs/docs from working groups by
 March 3rd at the latest (+7, -0, 0:0)  (t8m, 19:50:38)
   * ACTION: t8m will update the weekly reports ticket with this request
 (t8m, 19:53:08)

It would help if FESCo had a set of specific things they are looking
for by that date.  Otherwise you're going to get varied information
and detail from each of the WGs.  Guidance is requested.

josh
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Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-02-19)

2014-02-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 07:53:01 -0500
Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Tomas Mraz tm...@redhat.com wrote:
  * Open floor  (t8m, 19:45:44)
* AGREED: FESCo expects the Tech specs/docs from working groups by
  March 3rd at the latest (+7, -0, 0:0)  (t8m, 19:50:38)
* ACTION: t8m will update the weekly reports ticket with this
  request (t8m, 19:53:08)
 
 It would help if FESCo had a set of specific things they are looking
 for by that date.  Otherwise you're going to get varied information
 and detail from each of the WGs.  Guidance is requested.

Well, (not speaking for all of FESCo), I was thinking first it would be
the next expected deliverable: 

The second deliverable should be a list of necessary changes from
existing Fedora procedures needed to release the product. This should
be ordered to show what things depend on other changes and at which
point the changes will mean that we can no longer produce the current
type of Fedora. This will allow us to identify the resources needed by
what teams in order to implement the plan and at what point we may need
to have a longer than normal release cycle to do tooling work.

I think thats still not very detailed tho, so for me at least, I would
love to see: 

* What are your working groups deliverables? The actual thing we will
  be giving our users? (ie, a 1gb live iso image, or a netinstall.iso,
  or a cloud qcow2 image) with (these workstation/server/cloud
  components on it in configuration X)

* based on that, what changes to our current setup would you need to
  make that happen? (changes to livecd-creator, cloud image production,
  pungi) and/or (websites showing all products) and/or (what would
  marketing be able to hand out at events) and/or ... 

Basically data so we can all discuss what we can bite off for f21 and
hopefully make some awesome compelling products. 

kevin


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