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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-11-19)
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Meeting started by t8m at 18:08:14 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-11-19/fesco.2014-11-19-18.08.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* init process (t8m, 18:08:27)
* #1273 Policy interpretation on proprietary products in gnome-software,
gnome overview search results (t8m, 18:11:53)
* The web apps are clearly marked we can close the ticket (t8m,
18:13:49)
* #1265 Fedora Plasma Product (t8m, 18:15:03)
* Closing the ticket as the new product proposals should be presented
to Fedora Council (t8m, 18:20:41)
* #1326 change to fesco replacement process? (t8m, 18:21:37)
* we will revisit this after F21 is released (t8m, 18:27:26)
* #1359 Automatic OpenH264 download by Firefox (t8m, 18:28:36)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1359#comment:26 looks
like a possible long term solution (kalev, 18:30:24)
* AGREED: Close the ticket and ask interested parties to work with
legal on more user friendly solution (+7, -0, 0:0) (t8m, 18:47:07)
* #1367 Please define package manager expectations (t8m, 18:48:27)
* AGREED: post to devel list asking for interested parties to improve
http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/cli_vs_yum.html and revisit
change in the f22 cycle to see if there's any critical gaps (+6, -0,
0:0) (t8m, 19:07:09)
* ACTION: nirik will post to the devel list (t8m, 19:08:20)
* #1368 How to deal with F21 broken dependencies (t8m, 19:08:56)
* AGREED: FESCo agrees to dropping the packages with broken
dependencies listed in #1368 from both F21 and rawhide (+7, -0, 0:0)
(t8m, 19:25:56)
* AGREED: We will do the broken deps cleanup on Final Freeze from now
on in the future Fedora releases (+8, -0, 0:0) (t8m, 19:30:41)
* There will be warning sent to the affected maintainers at least 3
weeks in advance (t8m, 19:31:36)
* #1369 packages should disable internal crash handlers and depend on
ABRT (t8m, 19:32:44)
* Decision postponed to next week (t8m, 19:57:36)
* Next week chair (t8m, 19:57:40)
* ACTION: nirik will chair the next week meeting (t8m, 19:59:10)
* Open floor (t8m, 19:59:18)
Meeting ended at 20:01:44 UTC.
Action Items
* nirik will post to the devel list
* nirik will chair the next week meeting
Action Items, by person
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* nirik
* nirik will post to the devel list
* nirik will chair the next week meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* t8m (100)
* nirik (73)
* mitr (58)
* kalev (50)
* dgilmore (33)
* thozza (32)
* mattdm (31)
* jwb (31)
* sgallagh (27)
* zodbot (15)
* randomuser (13)
* cschalle_ (13)
* sharkcz (12)
* jzeleny (8)
* oddshocks (4)
* kushal (3)
* scollier (2)
* mjg59 (1)
* mmaslano (0)
* stickster (0)
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18:08:14 #startmeeting FESCO (2014-11-19)
18:08:15 Meeting started Wed Nov 19 18:08:14 2014 UTC. The chair is
t8m. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
18:08:15 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link
#topic.
18:08:19 #meetingname fesco
18:08:19 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
18:08:22 #chair dgilmore jwb kalev mattdm mitr mmaslano nirik sgallagh
stickster t8m thozza
18:08:23 Current chairs: dgilmore jwb kalev mattdm mitr mmaslano nirik
sgallagh stickster t8m thozza
18:08:27 #topic init process
18:08:27 .hello kevin
18:08:28 nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi'
18:08:31 .hello sgallagh
18:08:32 sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher'
18:08:38 Hi all I apologize again
18:09:00 .hello thozza
18:09:01 thozza: thozza 'Tomas Hozza'
18:09:04 t8m we'll just have to talk fast to make up for it :)
18:09:07 * mattdm is here
18:09:16 hi
18:09:33 hi
18:09:34 mattdm: lts jst skp vwls fr spd
18:10:37 hi
18:11:30 OK, so let's finally start
18:11:53 #topic #1273 Policy interpretation on proprietary products in
gnome-software, gnome overview search results
18:12:04 .fesco 1273
18:12:09 t8m: #1273 (Policy interpretation on proprietary products in
gnome-software, gnome overview search results) – FESCo -
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1273
18:13:07 I think this is done and can be closed.
18:13:08 So it seems we can close this ticket because the marking of Web
apps was accepted upstream and is in Fedora if I understand this correctly
18:13:16 the "apps" are marked pretty clearly now.
18:13:21 yeah, exactly.
18:13:26 OK
18:13:35 there are some other issues but I don't think they are fesco
issues
18:13:49 #info The web apps are clearly marked we can close the ticket
18:13:53 next topic
18:13:55 I'm generally in agreement, but I don't like the concept
of 'this was accepted upstream therefore we are okay with it'
18:14:11 ...just an observation, carry on
18:14:18 randomuser, I think it is in Fedora already, isn't it?
18:14:31 I think it's more like