Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Piotr Popieluch]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:35 AM, Peter Hutterer 
wrote:

> I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput again and
> finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it has a wide range of
> configurable speed settings, from "tar" to "speed-skating ring". Please
> give
> this scratch build a test and let me know how you go:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
>
>
After installing it feels more accurate with small movements, which is an
improvement. On both versions the acceleration could be larger for me, I
cannot move the pointer from one corner of the screen to the opposite one
with one finger movement. The touchpad speed slider in mouse and touchpad
settings is on max already.

This is on a Dell XPS 13 9360 with HiDPI screen.

Piotr
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Rajeesh K V]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote:

> I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput again and
> finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it has a wide range of
> configurable speed settings, from "tar" to "speed-skating ring". Please
> give
> this scratch build a test and let me know how you go:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245


Have been running with this since a few days on a Lenovo Yoga 900 (hidpi);
no regressions or issues experienced.


>
> Reminder: after installing you *must* log out of X/Wayland for the changes
> to take effect.
>
>

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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 02:08:41PM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 03:08:22AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 09:35:36AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
> > 
> > That seems to have expired.
> 
> doh, wrong link... sorry about that
> 
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=18007385
> 
> see also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1415793

FWIW, I installed this package a few days ago, and forgot about it
(Lenovo X1 Carbon 3rd gen). Seems to work just fine ;)

Zbyszek
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Peter Hutterer]

On 25/02/2017 04:28 , Sylvia wrote:


Hi!

I'm using Wayland. Is it the same or should I do something different?


for wayland a simple restart of the compositor after installing libinput 
is enough. Same for X if you're using the xorg-x11-drv-libinput driver.


Cheers,
  Peter


On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 12:26 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 06:48:11PM -0600, Keith Keith wrote:

I think I sent you some touchpad data before for a Toshiba Tecra M11.
I have xorg-x11-drv-synaptics installed to keep my setup from F24. Do
I need to do anything besides get rid of
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf and restart X to make this
work right?



yeah, that's all that should be needed. You can easily verify by running
xinput list-props "device name" afterwards and checking for the "libinput"
prefix on the properties.

Cheers,
   Peter


On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Peter Hutterer
mailto:peter.hutte...@who-t.net>> wrote:

I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput
again and finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it
has a wide range of configurable speed settings, from "tar" to
"speed-skating ring". Please give this scratch build a test and let
me know how you go:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
Reminder: after installing you *must* log out of X/Wayland for the
changes to take effect. Thanks Cheers, Peter
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Keith Keith]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Peter Hutterer
 wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 06:48:11PM -0600, Keith Keith wrote:
>> I think I sent you some touchpad data before for a Toshiba Tecra M11.  I
>> have xorg-x11-drv-synaptics installed to keep my setup from F24. Do I need
>> to do anything besides get rid of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
>> and restart X to make this work right?
>
> yeah, that's all that should be needed. You can easily verify by running
> xinput list-props "device name" afterwards and checking for the "libinput"
> prefix on the properties.
>
> Cheers,
>Peter
>

I've played with the .  I'm using F25 LXDE spin.  I saw all the rpms
were named F26 so I rebuilt it from the srpm just in case. Here's what
I've noticed.

LXDE has a mouse and keyboard setting program built in but it has no
effect with libinput.  I used synclient with synaptics because there's
not a lot of control in LXDE's mouse settings anyway.  I've attached
what libinput set as my defaults. It's the output from xinput
list-props. I looked around and found an article in Arch's wiki that
mentioned using xinput set-prop.  I used

xinput set-prop 13 --type=float 'libinput Accel Speed' 

to make the cursor move faster.  0 was way slower.  I got all the way
up to 1 and couldn't increase it further.  The manual says that's
what's supposed to happen so that's good..  It's fast enough that I
won't revert right back to synaptics.  It's not as fast as I'd like.
I have a 1600x900 display and moving my finger slow so the
acceleration doesn't kick in gets me about 7/8 of the way across the
screen when I move all the way across the entire trackpad
horizontally.  I like to set it so 1/2-1/3 of the trackpad corresponds
to corresponds to my entire screen when unaccelerated.  I suggest
making the maximum setting at least 6 times faster when unaccelerated.
I'd probably set it 3 times faster.

I tried -1 out of curiosity.  That's not tar that's glacier lol.

Accleration feels nice.  I'm pretty happy with it.  It kicks in a
little to easily for me.  Is there a setting I can mess with to
customize this? I'm planning on leaving this as my driver for while so
I'll get a better idea how it feels to use over time.

The right portion of my trackpad is used for vertical scrolling.
Libinput seems to recognize a smaller section as scrolling input than
synaptics did.  Synaptics default was really good for me.  I don't see
anywhere to change this. Is there a way?  The current setting isn't
bad and I suspect my muscle memory will adapt. This might have
something to do with that problem we noticed with what my devices
resolution was reported as and how far I could actually get it to say
my finger was when I ran my finger around the edges of the pad. I
don't remember numbers but it was pretty bad.

There's no momentum in scrolling which is something I miss. In
synaptics if I let my finger off the pad with more than a certain
threshold for finger velocity it would keep scrolling and slowly
reduce scroll speed to 0.  It felt like a trackball.

I tried out
xinput set-prop 13  'libinput Tapping Enabled' 1

I normally don't use this but rarely I do.  I have to hit it harder
than I'd like to register a click.  I'd like a setting to lighten it.
Double tap and hold to drag seemed to require me hitting it way
harder.  I like requiring a harder hit for this to sort of act as a
switch debouncer to determine if the user really meant a double tap or
if their finger pressure just varied.  It's way too high in my
opinion. I'd suggest knocking 10-15% off of how hard you have to tap
for a click.  Then make double tapping as hard as regular tapping is
now.

If any of these suggestions have a setting I'd really like to know.
Everything I know about what settings choices I have comes from man 4
libinput and
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput

How does the calibration matrix work? The man page seems to assume you
know what it is and how it works and just tells you how to specify it.

-Keith


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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Sylvia]

Hi!
I'm using Wayland.  Is it the same or should I do something different?
Cheers,Sylvia

On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 12:26 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 06:48:11PM -0600, Keith Keith wrote:
> > I think I sent you some touchpad data before for a Toshiba Tecra
> > M11.  I
> > have xorg-x11-drv-synaptics installed to keep my setup from F24. Do
> > I need
> > to do anything besides get rid of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-
> > synaptics.conf
> > and restart X to make this work right?
> 
> yeah, that's all that should be needed. You can easily verify by
> running
> xinput list-props "device name" afterwards and checking for the
> "libinput"
> prefix on the properties.
> 
> Cheers,
>    Peter
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Peter Hutterer  > -t.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput
> > > again and
> > > finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it has a
> > > wide range of
> > > configurable speed settings, from "tar" to "speed-skating ring".
> > > Please
> > > give
> > > this scratch build a test and let me know how you go:
> > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
> > > 
> > > Reminder: after installing you *must* log out of X/Wayland for
> > > the changes
> > > to take effect.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > >    Peter
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Peter Hutterer]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 03:08:22AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 09:35:36AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
> 
> That seems to have expired.

doh, wrong link... sorry about that

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=18007385

see also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1415793

Cheers,
   Peter
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 09:35:36AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245

That seems to have expired.

Zbyszek
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Peter Hutterer]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 06:48:11PM -0600, Keith Keith wrote:
> I think I sent you some touchpad data before for a Toshiba Tecra M11.  I
> have xorg-x11-drv-synaptics installed to keep my setup from F24. Do I need
> to do anything besides get rid of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
> and restart X to make this work right?

yeah, that's all that should be needed. You can easily verify by running
xinput list-props "device name" afterwards and checking for the "libinput"
prefix on the properties.

Cheers,
   Peter

> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Peter Hutterer 
> wrote:
> 
> > I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput again and
> > finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it has a wide range of
> > configurable speed settings, from "tar" to "speed-skating ring". Please
> > give
> > this scratch build a test and let me know how you go:
> > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
> >
> > Reminder: after installing you *must* log out of X/Wayland for the changes
> > to take effect.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Cheers,
> >Peter
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Keith Keith]

I think I sent you some touchpad data before for a Toshiba Tecra M11.  I
have xorg-x11-drv-synaptics installed to keep my setup from F24. Do I need
to do anything besides get rid of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf
and restart X to make this work right?

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Peter Hutterer 
wrote:

> I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput again and
> finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it has a wide range of
> configurable speed settings, from "tar" to "speed-skating ring". Please
> give
> this scratch build a test and let me know how you go:
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
>
> Reminder: after installing you *must* log out of X/Wayland for the changes
> to take effect.
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers,
>Peter
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Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Peter Hutterer]

I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput again and
finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it has a wide range of
configurable speed settings, from "tar" to "speed-skating ring". Please give
this scratch build a test and let me know how you go:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245

Reminder: after installing you *must* log out of X/Wayland for the changes
to take effect.

Thanks

Cheers,
   Peter
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