Re: Why has fedpkg suddenly grown a dependency on MySQL-python?
Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 01:16:01AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: I was rather surprised to find a routine yum update on my F14 system suddenly wanting to pull in a lot of mysql stuff that I'd not had installed at the moment. Are you able to upgrade to a later Fedora? I think you're seeing this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754538 Yes, that's the same issue, thanks for the reference. Obviously, I won't be using F14 for very much longer. What I was mainly worried about was the possibility that this growth in deps was a reflection of a new fedpkg version, so that I could expect to have to contend with the issue even in F15 and beyond. If the dependencies have been cleaned up in more recent branches then my concern is minimal. I do agree with the complainers in the BZ that this was something inappropriate to do in F14, but what's done is done. Even if you undid it, anyone who's done yum update recently on an F14 box will have all those unnecessary deps installed. Personally, I always do a fresh install not an upgrade when going to a new Fedora, so the extra deps won't be permanent baggage for me, but they will be for other people. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Why has fedpkg suddenly grown a dependency on MySQL-python?
On 11/22/2011 09:02 PM, Tom Lane wrote: I do agree with the complainers in the BZ that this was something inappropriate to do in F14, but what's done is done. Even if you undid it, anyone who's done yum update recently on an F14 box will have all those unnecessary deps installed. Not necessarily. man yum.conf and read up on clean_requirements_on_remove Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Why has fedpkg suddenly grown a dependency on MySQL-python?
I was rather surprised to find a routine yum update on my F14 system suddenly wanting to pull in a lot of mysql stuff that I'd not had installed at the moment. Investigation showed that if I try to remove MySQL-python again, yum wants to take all this stuff with it: Removing: MySQL-python x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc14 @updates 228 k Removing for dependencies: TurboGears noarch 1.0.9-8.fc14 @updates 7.6 M bodhi-client noarch 0.8.0-1.fc14 @updates 25 k fedora-easy-karmanoarch 0-0.15.20110825git36efb338.fc14 @updates 75 k fedora-packager noarch 0.5.9.2-2.fc14@updates 72 k fedpkg noarch 0.5.9.2-2.fc14@updates 248 k python-fedoranoarch 0.3.25.1-1.fc14.1 @updates 1.7 M python-sqlobject noarch 0.10.2-6.fc14 @fedora 1.6 M Needless to say, that would put rather a crimp in my ability to do any Fedora packaging work on this machine. AFAIK, there is no legitimate reason for fedpkg or fedora-packager to need to talk to a mysql database, so I'd really like to see this dependency go away again. I have routine occasion to shuffle mysql packages in and out, and I don't want entirely-unnecessary dependencies getting in the way. regards, tom lane -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Why has fedpkg suddenly grown a dependency on MySQL-python?
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 01:16 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: I was rather surprised to find a routine yum update on my F14 system suddenly wanting to pull in a lot of mysql stuff that I'd not had installed at the moment. Investigation showed that if I try to remove MySQL-python again, yum wants to take all this stuff with it: You forgot to paste the most important: # yum remove MySQL-python [... snip ...] --- Package MySQL-python.x86_64 0:1.2.3-1.fc14 set to be erased -- Processing Dependency: MySQL-python for package: python-sqlobject-0.10.2-6.fc14.noarch -- Running transaction check --- Package python-sqlobject.noarch 0:0.10.2-6.fc14 set to be erased -- Processing Dependency: python-sqlobject = 0.8 for package: TurboGears-1.0.9-8.fc14.noarch -- Running transaction check --- Package TurboGears.noarch 0:1.0.9-8.fc14 set to be erased -- Processing Dependency: TurboGears for package: python-fedora-0.3.25.1-1.fc14.1.noarch -- Running transaction check --- Package python-fedora.noarch 0:0.3.25.1-1.fc14.1 set to be erased -- Processing Dependency: python-fedora for package: fedpkg-1.3.0.1-1.fc14.noarch [... snip ...] Removing: MySQL-python x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc14 @updates 228 k Removing for dependencies: TurboGears noarch 1.0.9-8.fc14 @updates 7.6 M bodhi-client noarch 0.8.0-1.fc14 @updates 25 k fedora-easy-karmanoarch 0-0.15.20110825git36efb338.fc14 @updates 75 k fedora-packager noarch 0.5.9.2-2.fc14@updates 72 k fedpkg noarch 0.5.9.2-2.fc14@updates 248 k python-fedoranoarch 0.3.25.1-1.fc14.1 @updates 1.7 M python-sqlobject noarch 0.10.2-6.fc14 @fedora 1.6 M Needless to say, that would put rather a crimp in my ability to do any Fedora packaging work on this machine. AFAIK, there is no legitimate reason for fedpkg or fedora-packager to need to talk to a mysql database, They don't. They require python-fedora, which provides a client library (used by fedpkg iirc) as well as the necessary integration with FAS for TurboGears, TurboGears2, Django, etc... Perhaps python-fedora would need to be splitted then? That would have the added benefit to remove those web stacks, rather than just the mere 228kB taken by MySQL-python. I guess it just takes someone to do it. ;) -- Mathieu -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Why has fedpkg suddenly grown a dependency on MySQL-python?
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 01:16:01AM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: I was rather surprised to find a routine yum update on my F14 system suddenly wanting to pull in a lot of mysql stuff that I'd not had installed at the moment. Investigation showed that if I try to remove MySQL-python again, yum wants to take all this stuff with it: Removing: MySQL-python x86_64 1.2.3-1.fc14 @updates 228 k Removing for dependencies: TurboGears noarch 1.0.9-8.fc14 @updates 7.6 M bodhi-client noarch 0.8.0-1.fc14 @updates 25 k fedora-easy-karmanoarch 0-0.15.20110825git36efb338.fc14 @updates 75 k fedora-packager noarch 0.5.9.2-2.fc14@updates 72 k fedpkg noarch 0.5.9.2-2.fc14@updates 248 k python-fedoranoarch 0.3.25.1-1.fc14.1 @updates 1.7 M python-sqlobject noarch 0.10.2-6.fc14 @fedora 1.6 M Needless to say, that would put rather a crimp in my ability to do any Fedora packaging work on this machine. AFAIK, there is no legitimate reason for fedpkg or fedora-packager to need to talk to a mysql database, so I'd really like to see this dependency go away again. I have routine occasion to shuffle mysql packages in and out, and I don't want entirely-unnecessary dependencies getting in the way. Are you able to upgrade to a later Fedora? I think you're seeing this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754538 which is a confluence of the update policy and conflicting use cases wanting a bug to either be fixed or not. In Fedora 14, this shouldn't be an issue. Note that for your use case, this dep chain might also be breakable in python-sqlobject. For python-sqlalchemy we decide that we only explicitly rely on sqlite (which is provided by python itself these days). We treat MySQL and postgres backends as optional deps that users or applications must explicitly install if they want to use them. -Toshio pgpYgOP6Cug7K.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
