Re: license of our products on getfedora.org
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:08:31AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 08:14:11AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Thanks, this is useful. Shouldn't this be prominently linked from > > https://getfedora.org/ though? > > Probably! Can you file a ticket with websites? We're doing a big refresh of > that site anyway for F30. https://pagure.io/fedora-websites/issue/889 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: license of our products on getfedora.org
On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 08:14:11AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > Thanks, this is useful. Shouldn't this be prominently linked from > https://getfedora.org/ though? Probably! Can you file a ticket with websites? We're doing a big refresh of that site anyway for F30. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: license of our products on getfedora.org
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 09:47:26AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:49:01PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > I was trying to answer the question "How is the license of Fedora as a > > whole advertised?" (e.g. in the sense of what can I do with an ISO image > > I download from https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/). > > Do we specify how the whole collection is licensed anywhere? > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Licenses/LicenseAgreement?rd=Legal/Licenses/LicenseAgreement > > "Fedora is a compilation of software packages, each under its own license. > The compilation itself is released under the MIT license. However, this > compilation license does not supersede the licenses of code and content > contained in Fedora, which conform to the legal guidelines described at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main?rd=Licensing.; Thanks, this is useful. Shouldn't this be prominently linked from https://getfedora.org/ though? The only link on gf.o is to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Main#Legal which does include the link to Legal:Licenses, which includes a link to Legal:Licenses/LicenseAgreement. My worry is that even though *you* and *I* know the license of Fedora is, a "random" person should not be expected to go through 3 links and a legal text to find the license. For comparison: * https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ has three panes, and the third one is "terms & conditons" and includes an obvious link to a license. * https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/tumbleweed has a (not very visible but easily seen when one scrolls down a bit) link to https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:License which contains fairly clear legalese. * https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop is possibly even harder to navigate than us (https://www.ubuntu.com/legal links to https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies which says "Our intellectual property rights policy lets you use, modify and redistribute Ubuntu. It also outlines how you can use our trademarks, design assets and other copyrighted materials." which is slightly nauseating in itself, which then links to https://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/intellectual-property-policy which is full of crap. Our website may be hard to navigate, but at least we don't pretend we wrote and own all free software.) * https://www.debian.org/distrib/ has a link to https://www.debian.org/intro/free which is a wall of text, which afaict doesn't even answer the question in $subject. This is all slightly disappointing. Proprietary software is much better about putting up clear information about licensing. Zbyszek ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: license of our products on getfedora.org
On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 12:49:01PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I was trying to answer the question "How is the license of Fedora as a > whole advertised?" (e.g. in the sense of what can I do with an ISO image > I download from https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/). > Do we specify how the whole collection is licensed anywhere? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Licenses/LicenseAgreement?rd=Legal/Licenses/LicenseAgreement "Fedora is a compilation of software packages, each under its own license. The compilation itself is released under the MIT license. However, this compilation license does not supersede the licenses of code and content contained in Fedora, which conform to the legal guidelines described at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main?rd=Licensing.; -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
license of our products on getfedora.org
Hi, I was trying to answer the question "How is the license of Fedora as a whole advertised?" (e.g. in the sense of what can I do with an ISO image I download from https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/). Do we specify how the whole collection is licensed anywhere? For example, we say "Fedora is always free for anyone to use, modify, and distribute. It is built and used by people across the globe who work together as a community: the Fedora Project." [1] This is hardly a license, and could be even considered misleading, since the ISO includes various components that have licenses with pretty strong restrictions (GPLv2, GPLv3), so not all kinds of "modify and distribute" options are legal. Am I missing something obvious here? Zbyszek [1] https://getfedora.org/, below the freedom/friends/features/first icons. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
