Re: nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:22:02PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 21:05 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: I'm using the experimental 3d now with gnome shell. After a few days, it seems like it performs OK although it locks up for a few seconds now and then. It seems to recover and I can't see any obvious log messages around the time of the freeze. It does survive suspend/resume, which is great. My impression is that it runs slightly hotter than the nvidia driver but I could be imagining this (I don't have any figures). You're probably not. nouveau basically has no power management at present (it's under heavy development upstream, but I don't think ben's pulled any of it downstream yet). Does it support multiple monitor configurations? IOW, when I go to work I dock and use two external monitors. When I'm home I use either my laptop display or, when I'm in my home office, I attach a video dongle to connect to a widescreen monitor. Right now I use the nVidia config tool to select my monitor config on the fly and change to that. What would I use with the mesa driver? -- Darryl L. Pierce, Sr. Software Engineer @ Red Hat, Inc. Delivering value year after year. Red Hat ranks #1 in value among software vendors. http://www.redhat.com/promo/vendor/ pgpy039KJQTMB.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:03:25AM -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:22:02PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 21:05 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: I'm using the experimental 3d now with gnome shell. After a few days, it seems like it performs OK although it locks up for a few seconds now and then. It seems to recover and I can't see any obvious log messages around the time of the freeze. It does survive suspend/resume, which is great. My impression is that it runs slightly hotter than the nvidia driver but I could be imagining this (I don't have any figures). You're probably not. nouveau basically has no power management at present (it's under heavy development upstream, but I don't think ben's pulled any of it downstream yet). Does it support multiple monitor configurations? IOW, when I go to work I dock and use two external monitors. When I'm home I use either my laptop display or, when I'm in my home office, I attach a video dongle to connect to a widescreen monitor. Right now I use the nVidia config tool to select my monitor config on the fly and change to that. What would I use with the mesa driver? xrandr / system-config-display. I use nouveau with two monitors all the time. --CJD -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)
On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 09:03 -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:22:02PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 21:05 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: I'm using the experimental 3d now with gnome shell. After a few days, it seems like it performs OK although it locks up for a few seconds now and then. It seems to recover and I can't see any obvious log messages around the time of the freeze. It does survive suspend/resume, which is great. My impression is that it runs slightly hotter than the nvidia driver but I could be imagining this (I don't have any figures). You're probably not. nouveau basically has no power management at present (it's under heavy development upstream, but I don't think ben's pulled any of it downstream yet). Does it support multiple monitor configurations? IOW, when I go to work I dock and use two external monitors. When I'm home I use either my laptop display or, when I'm in my home office, I attach a video dongle to connect to a widescreen monitor. Right now I use the nVidia config tool to select my monitor config on the fly and change to that. What would I use with the mesa driver? gnome-display-properties. nouveau fully supports RandR 1.2, which is a rather better interface than NVIDIA's. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)
I'm using the experimental 3d now with gnome shell. After a few days, it seems like it performs OK although it locks up for a few seconds now and then. It seems to recover and I can't see any obvious log messages around the time of the freeze. It does survive suspend/resume, which is great. My impression is that it runs slightly hotter than the nvidia driver but I could be imagining this (I don't have any figures). -Cam -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 21:05 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: I'm using the experimental 3d now with gnome shell. After a few days, it seems like it performs OK although it locks up for a few seconds now and then. It seems to recover and I can't see any obvious log messages around the time of the freeze. It does survive suspend/resume, which is great. My impression is that it runs slightly hotter than the nvidia driver but I could be imagining this (I don't have any figures). You're probably not. nouveau basically has no power management at present (it's under heavy development upstream, but I don't think ben's pulled any of it downstream yet). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)
At least it's winter now and a hot netbook is less of a problem than in the summer. On 9 Nov 2010 21:22, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 21:05 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: I'm using the experimental 3d now with gno... You're probably not. nouveau basically has no power management at present (it's under heavy development upstream, but I don't think ben's pulled any of it downstream yet). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin... -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
nouveau gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 16:00 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: You mention gnome shell but not nouveau, how do you enable the missing 3d support for Nouveau? There's an Mesa package labelled experimental you need to install. I don't know what the subset of hardware it works for is, but my Quadro NVS 135M has been running smoothly so far: it's not fast, and the frame rate is not great, but it's out of the box and usable. I blogged about this yesterday, but nouveau has taken serious strides in F14 - I've been using it the past couple of releases, and the progress has been stark. Cheers Alex. -- This message was scanned by Better Hosted and is believed to be clean. http://www.betterhosted.com -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
