Are their guidelines for packaging translated man pages?

2011-07-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones

I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
strangely enough).  They are installed by the upstream under:

  %{_mandir}/uk/man1/
  %{_mandir}/uk/man3/

Maybe my Google-fu is failing me, but I can't find any guidelines on
how to package these for Fedora.  Should I create a separate
subpackage (foo-man-pages-uk)?  Is the installation directory above
correct?

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[Bug 721337] perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.5.0 is available

2011-07-18 Thread bugzilla
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*** Bug 722660 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 722660] perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.5.1 is available

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Re: Are their guidelines for packaging translated man pages?

2011-07-18 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
 strangely enough).  They are installed by the upstream under:
 
   %{_mandir}/uk/man1/
   %{_mandir}/uk/man3/

I would use

%lang(uk) %{_mandir}/uk/man1/foo.1*

in this case.

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Re: Are their guidelines for packaging translated man pages?

2011-07-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:09:21AM +0200, Andreas Bierfert wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
  I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
  strangely enough).  They are installed by the upstream under:
  
%{_mandir}/uk/man1/
%{_mandir}/uk/man3/
 
 I would use
 
 %lang(uk) %{_mandir}/uk/man1/foo.1*
 
 in this case.

%lang marks certain files as only being of use with particular
languages according to [1].  Does RPM do anything else with these
annotations?

Rich.

[1] 
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/RPM_Guide/ch09s05s04.html


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Re: Are their guidelines for packaging translated man pages?

2011-07-18 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:45:33 +0100, RWMJ (Richard) wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:09:21AM +0200, Andreas Bierfert wrote:
  On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
   I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
   strangely enough).  They are installed by the upstream under:
   
 %{_mandir}/uk/man1/
 %{_mandir}/uk/man3/
  
  I would use
  
  %lang(uk) %{_mandir}/uk/man1/foo.1*
  
  in this case.
 
 %lang marks certain files as only being of use with particular
 languages according to [1].  Does RPM do anything else with these
 annotations?
 
 Rich.
 
 [1] 
 http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/RPM_Guide/ch09s05s04.html
 

One can define a system's %_install_langs variable appropriately and have RPM
install only files in specific languages. Not solely for saving space, but to
exclude documentation in languages the users don't understand anyway.
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update sg3_utils to 1.31

2011-07-18 Thread Dan Horák
Hello,

I have updated sg3_utils in rawhide to 1.31. The API/ABI of the
libsgutils2 library is not considered stable and there is no soname
change, so all consumers of the library need to be rebuild. Affected
packages are

podsleuth (FTBFS due missing hal-devel)
libgpod
lsvpd (will be built only in ppc koji)
sdparm
udisks

libgpod, sdparm and udisks were successfully rebuilt in koji.


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Making . not match special extensions

2011-07-18 Thread Benny Amorsen
Do any of you use _. to match e.g. the h extension?

Right now _[a-z] does not match the special h extension but does match
someone explicitly dialling h. Would it make sense to extend this
behaviour to the . and ! patterns, so they never match h?


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Inclusion/Exclusion of BuildRoot tag and %defattr

2011-07-18 Thread Damian L Brasher
Hi List

Referring to sections of Packaging Guidelines:

No longer necessary to explicitly include %defattr at the beginning of %
files.

and the fact that the BuildRoot tag, eve if defined, is ignored.

After reviewing packages I have suggested %defattr is not strictly
necessary. I have also removed %defattr(-,root,root,-) from my
contributed spec file https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644711

Is this correct, i.e. do the package review request authors need to be
notified?

i.e. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720085

(My current reviews state I am new to FP maintainers)

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Agenda for today's FESCo meeting

2011-07-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting today at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.

Links to all tickets below can be found at: 
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

= Followups =

#topic #608 F16Feature: Trusted Boot - 
.fesco 608

#topic #563 suggested policy: all daemons must set RELRO and PIE flags  
.fesco 563

#topic #615 Strategy for services that do not have systemd native unit files
.fesco 615

= New business =

#topic  #647 Consider 14 features in FeatureReadyForFesco despite the 
Submission Date passing.
.fesco 647

#topic #634 F16Feature: EclipseIndigo
.fesco 634

#topic #635 F16Feature: 1000 System Accounts
.fesco 635

#topic #636 F16Feature: Chrony default NTP client - 
.fesco 636

#topic #637 F16Feature: Condor Cloud - 
.fesco 637

#topic #638 F16Feature: Unified Problem Reporting UI
.fesco 638

#topic #639 F16Feature: GCC Python Plugins
.fesco 639

#topic #640 F16Feature: Static Analysis of CPython Extensions
.fesco 640

#topic #641 F16Feature: GNOME Input Integration
.fesco 641

#topic #642 F16Feature: Sugar 0.94
.fesco 642

#topic #644 F16Feature: Spice 0.10
.fesco 644

#topic #645 F16Feature: New mkdumprd for for kdump
.fesco 645

#topic #646 F16 Feature: Use Ext4 driver for Ext3 and Ext2 filesystems
.fesco 646

= Fedora Engineering Services tickets = 

https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-engineering-services/report/6

= Open Floor = 

For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket.  The
report of the agenda items can be found at
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9

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this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco,
e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during
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Re: Making . not match special extensions

2011-07-18 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:05 AM, Benny Amorsen benny+use...@amorsen.dk wrote:
 Do any of you use _. to match e.g. the h extension?

 Right now _[a-z] does not match the special h extension but does match
 someone explicitly dialling h. Would it make sense to extend this
 behaviour to the . and ! patterns, so they never match h?

I can only guess that you meant for this to go to one of the Asterisk
mailing lists instead of the Fedora development mailing list.

Since I still remember a bit about Asterisk from my former career, I'd
say it's definitely something worth discussing on the Asterisk mailing
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Re: Making . not match special extensions

2011-07-18 Thread Benny Amorsen
Benny Amorsen benny+use...@amorsen.dk writes:

 Do any of you use _. to match e.g. the h extension?

 Right now _[a-z] does not match the special h extension but does match
 someone explicitly dialling h. Would it make sense to extend this
 behaviour to the . and ! patterns, so they never match h?


 /Benny

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Re: Inclusion/Exclusion of BuildRoot tag and %defattr

2011-07-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:20:30PM +0100, Damian L Brasher wrote:
 Hi List
 
 Referring to sections of Packaging Guidelines:
 
 No longer necessary to explicitly include %defattr at the beginning of %
 files.
 
 and the fact that the BuildRoot tag, eve if defined, is ignored.
 
 After reviewing packages I have suggested %defattr is not strictly
 necessary. I have also removed %defattr(-,root,root,-) from my
 contributed spec file https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=644711
 
 Is this correct, i.e. do the package review request authors need to be
 notified?
 
 i.e. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720085

They are now optional but there's no need to force people to be rid of them.
In particular, some people like to build a package for both Fedora and
EPEL-5.  In this case, a lot of the things that are optional in Fedora have
to remain for the EPEL package.

-Toshio


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Re: Self Introduction

2011-07-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 06:27:50PM -0700, Travis Davies wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 Fellow Linux enthusiast here.
 I am working on developing the netperf rpm package for Fedora. I use 
 this software
 daily at work and thought why not be the package maintainer, right?
 Will of course need your feedback and a reviewer for the package.
 
 Looking forward to working with all of you.
 
Grettings!  Welcome to the fold.  There was an attempt to package netperf
many years ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529105

Could have some useful ideas.

-Toshio


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Re: Trusted Boot in Fedora

2011-07-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2011/7/18 Denys Vlasenko dvlas...@redhat.com:
 On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 18:15 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
 The TPM allows verifying that this kernel (and only this kernel) is
 actually running.  An attacker with access to the hard drive (evil
 maid) can modify the code to disable any signature check that would
 be done in software (e.t. inside grub); TPM cannot be bypassed this
 way.

 How is this possible? The kernel was somehow installed. TPM was informed
 about it (I don't know, sha hash was written into a flash
 which is physically in the processor?).
I'm not quite sure how the installation procedure is supposed to work
- however, in the end, a hash that represents the right system is
stored in the TPM.  Cryptographic keys that are stored in the TPM are
then bound to this hash, and accessible only when the booting system
matches this hash.

 Why attacker with physical access to the computer
 can't install his tampered kernel and save its hash?
Once the cryptographic keys are bound to a specific hash, the attacker
can not access them without booting system that matches this hash.  An
attacker can not boot a different system and then change the hash to
which the key is bound.
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disper review request - On-the-fly display switch utility

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Santagiuliana
Hi to all,
anybody would review my new package disper?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712579

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Re: Agenda for today's FESCo meeting

2011-07-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-07-18)
===


Meeting started by mjg59 at 17:01:22 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-07-18/fesco.2011-07-18-17.01.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* init process  (mjg59, 17:02:52)

* #608 F16Feature: Trusted Boot  (mjg59, 17:03:53)
  * AGREED: , Trusted boot is approved as an optional F16 feature
(mjg59, 17:13:20)

* #563 suggested policy: all daemons must set RELRO and PIE flags
  (mjg59, 17:13:48)
  * AGREED: Work on tuning the criteria and revisit next week  (mjg59,
17:25:49)

* #615 Strategy for services that do not have systemd native unit
  files  (mjg59, 17:25:57)
  * LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Features/SysVtoSystemd
(Viking-Ice, 17:28:09)
  * LINK: http://fpaste.org/ErRL/   (Viking-Ice, 17:28:32)

* #647 Consider 14 features in FeatureReadyForFesco despite the
  Submission Date passing.  (mjg59, 17:35:14)
  * AGREED: Fesco will consider these features  (mjg59, 17:36:25)

* #634 F16Feature: EclipseIndigo  (mjg59, 17:36:35)
  * AGREED: Eclipse Indigo is approved as an F16 feature  (mjg59,
17:37:32)

* #635 F16Feature: 1000 System Accounts  (mjg59, 17:37:37)
  * AGREED: 1000 System Accounts is approved as a Fedora feature
(mjg59, 17:38:43)

* #636 F16Feature: Chrony default NTP client  (mjg59, 17:38:47)
  * AGREED: Chrony approved as the default NTP client  (mjg59, 17:39:51)

* #637 F16Feature: Condor Cloud  (mjg59, 17:40:50)
  * AGREED: Condor Cloud is approved as an F16 feature  (mjg59,
17:42:18)

* #638 F16Feature: Unified Problem Reporting UI  (mjg59, 17:42:31)
  * AGREED: Unified Problem Reporting UI is approved as an F16 feature
(mjg59, 17:43:54)

* #639 F16Feature: GCC Python Plugins  (mjg59, 17:44:55)
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* #639 F16Feature: GCC Python Plugins  (mjg59, 17:46:08)

* #640 F16Feature: Static Analysis of CPython Extensions  (mjg59,
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* #641 F16Feature: GNOME Input Integration  (mjg59, 17:47:32)
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* #642 F16Feature: Sugar 0.94  (mjg59, 17:50:17)
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* #644 F16Feature: Spice 0.10  (mjg59, 17:51:34)
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* #645 F16Feature: New mkdumprd for for kdump  (mjg59, 17:53:16)
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* #646 F16 Feature: Use Ext4 driver for Ext3 and Ext2 filesystems
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* Next week's chair  (mjg59, 17:57:38)
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* Open Floor  (mjg59, 18:01:38)
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Re: disper review request - On-the-fly display switch utility

2011-07-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
The upstream website says that right now it's only tested and working 
with the binary nvidia drivers. Does this actually work with xrandr?

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on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Neal Becker
This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi,

2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
 This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig

 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html


Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
/etc/services.conf/ or something like that.

Just my $2.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:

 
 Hi,
 
 2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
  This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
 
  http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
 
 
 Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
 the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
 /etc/services.conf/ or something like that.

No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.

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[perl-HTTP-Server-Simple-Mason/el6] (9 commits) ...Merge branch 'master' into el6

2011-07-18 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Summary of changes:

  b90cd1d... - Upstream update. (*)
  c3a3b87... Fix typo that causes a failure to update the common directo (*)
  75065f0... - rebuild against perl 5.10.1 (*)
  03fa3db... - Mass rebuild with perl-5.12.0 (*)
  be75a3c... dist-git conversion (*)
  03e5901... - Upstream update. (*)
  cf4ebcd... - 661697 rebuild for fixing problems with vendorach/lib (*)
  2d1eb60... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass (*)
  f308d83... Merge branch 'master' into el6

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2011-07-18 Thread Xavier Bachelot
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Re: FESCo: Feature process and release blocker process

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 12:48 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 19:36:10 -0700
 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 ...snip...
 
  We wanted to check that this was okay with FESCo and the feature
  wrangler and the project in general before going ahead, so here we are
  =) Please let us know if anyone is worried about this. Thanks!
 
 Speaking only for myself (I suspect we should have FESCo discuss at
 their next meeting), this sounds completely reasonable to me. 
 
 Each of the groups involved in a release should have a say (and does at
 the go/no go meeting). QA should focus on their testing and QA efforts
 to decide if they are go or no-go. Other groups may have their own
 criteria.

Thanks. For the record, we brought this up at today's FESCo meeting,
everyone agreed it sounded reasonable, and so I have added the following
paragraph to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Release_criteria_definition :

A Fedora feature being incomplete, in and of itself, does not
constitute a blocker bug. The feature process is separate from this
process. Features are required to meet certain standards at certain
points of the release cycle, but this is part of the feature process and
managed, tracked and enforced separately from this process. However, if
a proposed feature being incomplete causes any of the above criteria to
be met, then the bug is a release blocker.

(various of those words are hyperlinks to other bits of the wiki, to
make it easier to see what the 'feature process' is and so on). This
template is transcluded in the release criteria pages for each phase:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Alpha_Release_Criteria
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Beta_Release_Criteria
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Final_Release_Criteria

I hope this is a clear and concise way to formalize the distinction
between the release validation and feature processes. Thanks!
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/18/2011 06:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:

 Hi,

 2011/7/18 Neal Beckerndbeck...@gmail.com:
 This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig

 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

 Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
 the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
 /etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
 No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
 borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
 fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.

Agreed...

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
 
  
  Hi,
  
  2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
   This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
  
   http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
  
  
  Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
  the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
  /etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
 
 No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
 borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
 fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.

Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
need be fixed Lennart.

Simo.

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Re: Inclusion/Exclusion of BuildRoot tag and %defattr

2011-07-18 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
 TK == Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes:

TK They are now optional but there's no need to force people to be rid
TK of them. In particular, some people like to build a package for both
TK Fedora and EPEL-5.  In this case, a lot of the things that are
TK optional in Fedora have to remain for the EPEL package.

Note that according to our guideline page only RPM releases older than
4.4 require %defattr, which would limit the requirement for it to specs
which need to build unmodified on EL4.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:

 On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
  On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
  
   
   Hi,
   
   2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
   
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
   
   
   Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
   the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
   /etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
  
  No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
  borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
  fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
 
 Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
 need be fixed Lennart.

Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
qualify as that.

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Re: Inclusion/Exclusion of BuildRoot tag and %defattr

2011-07-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:14:48PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
  TK == Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com writes:
 
 TK They are now optional but there's no need to force people to be rid
 TK of them. In particular, some people like to build a package for both
 TK Fedora and EPEL-5.  In this case, a lot of the things that are
 TK optional in Fedora have to remain for the EPEL package.
 
 Note that according to our guideline page only RPM releases older than
 4.4 require %defattr, which would limit the requirement for it to specs
 which need to build unmodified on EL4.
 
Ah... I always forget that -- %defattr is optional in EL-5 but not EL-4
; buildroot is needed even in EL-5.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL/GuidelinesAndPolicies#Distribution_specific_guidelines

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
 Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
 need be fixed Lennart.

If I were a betting man I'd wager that all the daemons we ship are
easier to fix than the US deficit (in both the technical sense and
in the sense of political will to make the necessary changes.)

The necessary political will to obsolete /etc/sysconfig may not exist
at this very moment but I think that the reasoning is sound enough
that anticipating, identifying and mitigating potential problems the
removal would cause seems a reasonable use of someones time to
minimize the disruption such a removal will cause in the year or two
leading up to it actually happening.


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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Tom Lane
Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com writes:
 On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

 No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
 borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
 fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.

 Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
 need be fixed Lennart.

Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
than /etc/sysconfig.  This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has
not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem?
than like something that will actually improve matters for anyone.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Miller
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:16:13PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
SNIP
 Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
 software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
 is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
 includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
 qualify as that.
 
 Lennart
SNIP

What about /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
... where would be a more appropriate location for those? Not saying
there isn't one, just wondering what the logical progression would be
since that's not really a daemon so much a munge of scripts and config
files that handle network bits... similar question for others like that 
which have service entries in /etc/init.d/ but aren't actually daemons.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:

 
 Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com writes:
  On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
  http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
 
  No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
  borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
  fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
 
  Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
  need be fixed Lennart.
 
 Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
 when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
 than /etc/sysconfig.  This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has
 not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem?
 than like something that will actually improve matters for anyone.

What does systemd break in this regard?

The blog article even explains what you need to do when you really want
to continue using a sysconfig file.

Also, what phasing out sysconfig gains you is explained in detail in the
blog story, and that's all I have to say on this.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Tom Lane
Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de writes:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
 Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
 when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
 than /etc/sysconfig.  This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has
 not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem?
 than like something that will actually improve matters for anyone.

 What does systemd break in this regard?

There's a big difference between a daemon might not need /etc/sysconfig
anymore once it's been fully integrated into the systemd world and
let's deprecate /etc/sysconfig and force packages to stop using it.
Maybe you meant the first, but it's coming across as the second.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:45, Adam Miller
maxamill...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 09:16:13PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 SNIP
 Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
 software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
 is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
 includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
 qualify as that.

 Lennart
 SNIP

 What about /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/
 ... where would be a more appropriate location for those? Not saying
 there isn't one, just wondering what the logical progression would be
 since that's not really a daemon so much a munge of scripts and config
 files that handle network bits... similar question for others like that
 which have service entries in /etc/init.d/ but aren't actually daemons.

There are no clear plans.

If someone would come up with a unified network interface config
format all distros could use, it would go into some new top-level dir
in /etc and not in /etc/sysconfig. Until that happens we will surely
continue to use it, but look at it as 'inherited' and not something to
extend or base future work on.

What we have today is /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/, but
that probably doesn't solve that problem.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 21:59, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de writes:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
 Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
 when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
 than /etc/sysconfig.  This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has
 not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem?
 than like something that will actually improve matters for anyone.

 What does systemd break in this regard?

 There's a big difference between a daemon might not need /etc/sysconfig
 anymore once it's been fully integrated into the systemd world and
 let's deprecate /etc/sysconfig and force packages to stop using it.
 Maybe you meant the first, but it's coming across as the second.

The 'force' seems to be in your head only. :)

We are just communicating that /etc/sysconfig should be phased out,
and no new work should be based on it. It should be seen as legacy.

Many basic configurations formerly in /etc/sysconfig we have already
move to proper /etc config files, and we might continue to do so.

/etc/sysconfig is a hack and a pretty bad idea in the first place.
Stuff should get native configurations as much as possible, not
distro-specific configs.

Some day /etc/sysconfig should be almost empty, and then we will see
what to do about it, but that might take a very long time, until then
there is no need to rush anything.

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boost 1.47.0

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Machata
Hi there,

in accordance with the announced Fedora feature[1][2], we (the Boost
maintainers) plan to rebase Boost to 1.47.0 really soon now.  Boost
1.47.0 has been released recently and Denis Arnaud kindly did the
packaging, so it is ready for scratch builds, smoke testing, and related
fun.

I'll do that in the next few days and if all comes out green-ish, I'll
push the package into Fedora 16 and write a follow-up to this e-mail
with guidelines on overcoming the obstacles, if any.

Further plans: originally, we hoped that 1.48.0 would be about out by
now, and we would manage to get beta into Fedora 16, much like we did
with 1.46.0 for Fedora 15.  But the Boost schedule slipped, and made any
such plans impossible to realize[2].  At the same time, the sentiment of
Boost upstream seems to be to (gradually) get back to the original
schedule, so we may end up with 1.50.0 in Fedora 17.  Handling +3 bump
might end up being more interesting than is desirable, so to alleviate
this, we will most probably want to do at least one larger rebase
mid-Rawhide, either to 1.48.0, or 1.49.0.  I'll write more when I know
more.

Don't hesitate to ping me on irc (_petr) with any concerns that you
have.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F16Boost147
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711845

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Re: disper review request - On-the-fly display switch utility

2011-07-18 Thread Mario Santagiuliana
In data 18/7/2011 20:34:17, Matthew Garrett ha scritto:
 The upstream website says that right now it's only tested and working
 with the binary nvidia drivers. Does this actually work with xrandr?

The developer tell me that disper use libxrandr, if some users had problems 
with the ctypes-based interface the developer tell me that there is a: 
workaround I reverted to calling the xrandr binary when the former would 
fail.

I have got an nvidia card and for the next month I can't test it on other 
hardware, sorry.

With this package I hope to help the project with other users feedback.
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
 Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
 need be fixed Lennart.

 If I were a betting man I'd wager that all the daemons we ship are
 easier to fix than the US deficit (in both the technical sense and
 in the sense of political will to make the necessary changes.)

 The necessary political will to obsolete /etc/sysconfig may not exist
 at this very moment but I think that the reasoning is sound enough
 that anticipating, identifying and mitigating potential problems the
 removal would cause seems a reasonable use of someones time to
 minimize the disruption such a removal will cause in the year or two
 leading up to it actually happening.

I guess the process can be started - but by the time it is ready for
prime time then any daemons that need to work should have been tested
to work without the need for any /etc/sysconfig/... files - just by
the way what then out of interest is the replacement for a
/etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be
the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be
started when X starts and not GDM without the use of the above file?

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Re: Are their guidelines for packaging translated man pages?

2011-07-18 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 07/18/2011 11:09 AM, Andreas Bierfert wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 08:57 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
 I have a package that supplies translated man pages (only in Ukrainian
 strangely enough).  They are installed by the upstream under:

   %{_mandir}/uk/man1/
   %{_mandir}/uk/man3/
 
 I would use
 
 %lang(uk) %{_mandir}/uk/man1/foo.1*
 
 in this case.

%find_lang's --with-man argument can be used for this too.
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
 This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
 
 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc
too).  Perhaps LSB?

So I don't think changes like this, and /etc/machine-id, and
/etc/os-release and others should come by fiat, although (again) I'm
very sympathetic to why these things are being done.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
   On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
   

Hi,

2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
 This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig

 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html


Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
/etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
   
   No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
   borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
   fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
  
  Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
  need be fixed Lennart.
 
 Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
 software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
 is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
 includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
 qualify as that.

Asking some upstream to add a whole configuration file reading subsystem
to extremely simple daemons that accept a handful of command line
options can be rightfully answered with a simple no.

Command line options are nothing wrong and have been around for ages,
there is nothing to fix in daemons that do not read a config file.

But most of the changes in this area look gratuitous to me. They will
cause significant changes in admin tools and configurations and
therefore significant grief.

Note that I am not necessarily against changing stuff in the long term,
when I started there was no /etc/sysconfig, and I won't cry if it goes
away and is replaced with a bunch of 'different' config files, big
deal ... same stuff just in different places, what a revolution!

But your attitude of defining 'broken' anything that doesn't conform to
your view of the world, is frankly tiring and not constructive.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 21:16 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:

  On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
   On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
  
   
Hi,
   
2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
 This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig

 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

   
Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
/etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
  
   No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
   borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
   fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
 
  Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
  need be fixed Lennart.

 Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
 software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
 is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
 includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
 qualify as that.

 Asking some upstream to add a whole configuration file reading subsystem
 to extremely simple daemons that accept a handful of command line
 options can be rightfully answered with a simple no.

 Command line options are nothing wrong and have been around for ages,
 there is nothing to fix in daemons that do not read a config file.

 But most of the changes in this area look gratuitous to me. They will
 cause significant changes in admin tools and configurations and
 therefore significant grief.

 Note that I am not necessarily against changing stuff in the long term,
 when I started there was no /etc/sysconfig, and I won't cry if it goes
 away and is replaced with a bunch of 'different' config files, big
 deal ... same stuff just in different places, what a revolution!

The revolution would be having the staff in the same location in every distro.
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:42 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess the process can be started - but by the time it is ready for
 prime time then any daemons that need to work should have been tested
 to work without the need for any /etc/sysconfig/... files - just by
 the way what then out of interest is the replacement for a
 /etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be
 the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be
 started when X starts and not GDM without the use of the above file?

I don't have a ready answer for that. But instead I'll ask you a
related question.

If I have a serviced service stack which depends on some  httpd daemon
to operate correctly, and the service dependencies are generated to
make sure that one of the installed httpd daemon runs on start up. How
do I go about making sure that
one and only one of the following httpd servers of my choosing starts
up?  apache httpd or lighttpd  or cherokee


From  a packaging standpoing  our packages use the virtual provide : webserver.


But how do we as administrators make sure that the non-default
webserver we want used is used in our init stack?  There's no
sysconfig for this is there?  There's no prefhttpd that fills the role
of the prefdm logic.

So what's the general solution for choice among equals among services
at init?  Is prefdm and /etc/sysconfig/desktop like constructions
really what we want to replicate as the best practice way of dealing
with this ?

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:

 
 On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
  This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
  
  http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
 
 I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
 discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
 interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc
 too).  Perhaps LSB?

Whether to get rid of /etc/sysconfig is a decision for Fedora and only
Fedora, since it's a Fedoraism. Other distros have similar dirs, but
under different names and with different contents.

LSB has no beef with this really, since the question is whether to get
rid of it -- not whether to standardize it. 

 So I don't think changes like this, and /etc/machine-id, and
 /etc/os-release and others should come by fiat, although (again) I'm
 very sympathetic to why these things are being done.

These interfaces introduced by systemd are actually discussed in quite
some detail on the systemd irc channel and mailing list. It's a very
open forum, you are welcome to join.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread David Michael
Hi,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:42 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 what then out of interest is the replacement for a
 /etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be
 the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be
 started when X starts and not GDM without the use of the above file?

I recently brought up this question on systemd-devel as I was
packaging a desktop environment with a display manager, and it sounded
like there would be a push to move away from prefdm itself in favor of
giving each display manager a service file.  I implemented this in the
package and switch between display managers with the following command
(with newdm being the selected one).

ln -fs /lib/systemd/system/newdm.service
/etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
  This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
 
  http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

 I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
 discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
 interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc
 too).  Perhaps LSB?

 Whether to get rid of /etc/sysconfig is a decision for Fedora and only
 Fedora, since it's a Fedoraism. Other distros have similar dirs, but
 under different names and with different contents.

 LSB has no beef with this really, since the question is whether to get
 rid of it -- not whether to standardize it.

 So I don't think changes like this, and /etc/machine-id, and
 /etc/os-release and others should come by fiat, although (again) I'm
 very sympathetic to why these things are being done.

 These interfaces introduced by systemd are actually discussed in quite
 some detail on the systemd irc channel and mailing list. It's a very
 open forum, you are welcome to join.

So Fedora is the right place to discuss removal of its existing
configuration, but not the design of the new configuration?
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
David Michael (fedora@gmail.com) said: 
  what then out of interest is the replacement for a
  /etc/sysconfig/desktop file that defines which login manager should be
  the default (and which is not there by default)? Can KDM then be
  started when X starts and not GDM without the use of the above file?
 
 I recently brought up this question on systemd-devel as I was
 packaging a desktop environment with a display manager, and it sounded
 like there would be a push to move away from prefdm itself in favor of
 giving each display manager a service file.  I implemented this in the
 package and switch between display managers with the following command
 (with newdm being the selected one).
 
 ln -fs /lib/systemd/system/newdm.service
 /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service

Right, but that then causes 'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs.

I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Lennart Poettering wrote:

 On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:

  On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
   On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote:
  
   
Hi,
   
2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
 This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig

 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

   
Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
/etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
  
   No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
   borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
   fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
 
  Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
  need be fixed Lennart.

 Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
 software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
 is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
 includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
 qualify as that.


I'd suggest we're shipping software that doesn't need to be modified,
doesn't need to be fixed.  Saying those daemons need to be fixed is like
saying a pregnant woman need to go to the hospital to be cured.
Pregnancy and /etc/sysconfig are perfectly natural and healthy.  Pregnant
women and /etc/sysconfig both have perfectly valid use cases and do not
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 17:00, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:

 Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I think
 the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
 /etc/services.conf/ or something like that.

No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig. It's
borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one, then
fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
   
   Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
   need be fixed Lennart.
  
  Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
  software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
  is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
  includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
  qualify as that.
 
 Asking some upstream to add a whole configuration file reading subsystem
 to extremely simple daemons that accept a handful of command line
 options can be rightfully answered with a simple no.

Example please?

 Command line options are nothing wrong and have been around for ages,
 there is nothing to fix in daemons that do not read a config file.

Command line options are not wrong, they are completely fine.

What I am saying that faking configuration files, by having wrapper
scripts which build command lines from env var config files is not
ideal. But this was already discussed on this very ML, so I see no
reason to warm this up again.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 23:17, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:

  These interfaces introduced by systemd are actually discussed in quite
  some detail on the systemd irc channel and mailing list. It's a very
  open forum, you are welcome to join.
 
 So Fedora is the right place to discuss removal of its existing
 configuration, but not the design of the new configuration?

If this new configuration is something that shall be shared with other
distributions, then yes, fedora-devel is probably not the right place to
discuss its initial design.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
 I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
 discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
 interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc
 too).  Perhaps LSB?

/etc/sysconfig is not a file format standard.
/etc/sysconfig is not a place where configuration files of the same
format or purpose are stored.
/etc/sysconfig is not a place used to store configuration shared by
independent software packages.
/etc/sysconfig is not a software package.

I can't see a reason to discuss /etc/sysconfig as a single unit, nor
to argue for removal of /etc/sysconfig a single unit, nor to try to
form a definite consensus about /etc/sysconfig.


/etc/sysconfig is a conventional place where various
distribution-specific software stores its configuration.

Note the two primary attributes:

* _various_ software: Each file needs to be discussed separately, in
the context of the software that uses it.
/etc/sysconfig/{crond,iptables,nspluginwrapper} have nothing in
common, and need to be considered separately together with the
software that uses these files.

* _distribution-specific_: There's no point in defining a common
standard for software that is not commonly used.  Replacing
distribution-specific software by distribution-shared software may be
beneficial, and it may make the distribution-specific config file
obsolete, but writing the common software common needs to come
_first_.  Only then can we think about making the configuration common
- and often we may find that breaking backward compatibility with
configuration in /etc/sysconfig doesn't buy anything.

This discussion really seems to be not about /etc/sysconfig, but about
configuration of the distribution-specific software in /etc/init.d
that is scheduled to go away by F16 - but having a plan (and, mostly,
manpower) for removing the code in F16 without having corresponding
plans (_and_ manpower) for agreeing upon, implementing, and
integrating, corresponding software into the various upstreams, is
putting the cart before the horse.
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread David Michael
Hi,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
 Right, but that then causes 'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs.

 I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it.

I meant creating that symlink was the replacement for
/etc/sysconfig/desktop, the end-user configuration.

As for what packages do about their DM service files, I would agree
with letting alternatives manage a default
/lib/systemd/system/display-manager.service symlink, but leave the one
in /etc for the users to specify.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 23:20, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Lennart Poettering wrote:

 Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
 software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
 is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
 includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
 qualify as that.


 I'd suggest we're shipping software that doesn't need to be modified,
 doesn't need to be fixed.  Saying those daemons need to be fixed is like
 saying a pregnant woman need to go to the hospital to be cured.
 Pregnancy and /etc/sysconfig are perfectly natural and healthy.  Pregnant
 women and /etc/sysconfig both have perfectly valid use cases and do not
 need to be fixed :)

Most pregnancies last ~40 weeks. If that takes much longer it needs to be fixed.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 23:27, David Michael fedora@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
 Right, but that then causes 'last one wins' behavior among multiple DMs.

 I suppose we could use alternatives for this, as much as I dislike it.

 I meant creating that symlink was the replacement for
 /etc/sysconfig/desktop, the end-user configuration.

Yes, this link will replace the config file.

 As for what packages do about their DM service files, I would agree
 with letting alternatives manage a default
 /lib/systemd/system/display-manager.service symlink,

We should not let packages create config files in lib, lib is more for
static content from rpms, not really for configuration. For the same
reason, 'systemctl enable/disable' acts on /etc only.

 but leave the one
 in /etc for the users to specify.

The link in etc would need to be managed by alternatives, but I'm not
sure, if it's really necessary.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 18.07.11 23:26, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:

 
 On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com 
 wrote:
  I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
  discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
  interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc
  too).  Perhaps LSB?
 
 /etc/sysconfig is not a file format standard.
 /etc/sysconfig is not a place where configuration files of the same
 format or purpose are stored.
 /etc/sysconfig is not a place used to store configuration shared by
 independent software packages.
 /etc/sysconfig is not a software package.
 
 I can't see a reason to discuss /etc/sysconfig as a single unit, nor
 to argue for removal of /etc/sysconfig a single unit, nor to try to
 form a definite consensus about /etc/sysconfig.

Oh, it definitely can be discussed as single unit. Check the Fedora
packaging guidelines:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SysVInitScript

Although init files live in /etc, they are scripts to be executed, not
configured. Any configuration should be made available through
/etc/sysconfig/service rather than in the init script itself. A valid
exception to this rule would be existing packages where configuration is
still done via the init file. In this case, the init file could be
marked as %config following the rules from the Configuration files
section to preserve a users configuration upon upgrade, hopefully so
that the user can migrate said configuration to a new
/etc/sysconfig/service config file.

Now, this is very terse, and leaves the file format of this file
undefined, but given that sysv init scripts are shell scripts, and given
the usual contents of the dir I think it is reasonably safe to assume
that these files are generally shell fragments.

Of course, this is not the only use of /etc/sysconfig right now. There's
a lot of other stuff in it, but I would still say that the primary use
of the dir and most files placed in it have been placed there following
the rules of the guidelines. (If that was not the case we had a major
problem with namespacing issues.)

 /etc/sysconfig is a conventional place where various
 distribution-specific software stores its configuration.
 
 Note the two primary attributes:
 
 * _various_ software: Each file needs to be discussed separately, in
 the context of the software that uses it.
 /etc/sysconfig/{crond,iptables,nspluginwrapper} have nothing in
 common, and need to be considered separately together with the
 software that uses these files.

Nah, not true. The packaging guidelines say explicitly what you should
place in that directory. When we discuss getting rid of the dir we are
also talking about updating the guidelines.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 15:59 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de writes:
  On Mon, 18.07.11 15:34, Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) wrote:
  Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
  when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else
  than /etc/sysconfig.  This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has
  not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem?
  than like something that will actually improve matters for anyone.
 
  What does systemd break in this regard?
 
 There's a big difference between a daemon might not need /etc/sysconfig
 anymore once it's been fully integrated into the systemd world and
 let's deprecate /etc/sysconfig and force packages to stop using it.
 Maybe you meant the first, but it's coming across as the second.

Observation suggests that you often need to assert the latter in order
to achieve the former, when it comes to herding cats^H^H^H^Hopen source
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Posting not allowed?

2011-07-18 Thread Ben Boeckel
Hi,

I'm using the gmane gateway to read the list and I'm getting Posting
not allowed errors across all the lists I've tried. Is it just me or
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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 23:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
 On Mon, 18.07.11 21:57, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote:
 
  
  On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 02:46:30PM -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
   This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig
   
   http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html
  
  I'm sympathetic to Lennart's arguments, but really this should be
  discussed and decided in the context of a real, open forum, drawing
  interested people from all of the Linux distros (possibly BSD etc
  too).  Perhaps LSB?
 
 Whether to get rid of /etc/sysconfig is a decision for Fedora and only
 Fedora, since it's a Fedoraism. Other distros have similar dirs, but
 under different names and with different contents.

Mandriva uses the same directory. Mainly as an inheritance from Red Hat,
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Re: Posting not allowed?

2011-07-18 Thread Veeti Paananen
On 07/19/2011 12:38 AM, Ben Boeckel wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm using the gmane gateway to read the list and I'm getting Posting
 not allowed errors across all the lists I've tried. Is it just me or
 are others seeing this?
 
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If you're reading this, posting through the gmane newsgroup works.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread David Michael
Hi,

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Kay Sievers kay.siev...@vrfy.org wrote:
 We should not let packages create config files in lib, lib is more for
 static content from rpms, not really for configuration. For the same
 reason, 'systemctl enable/disable' acts on /etc only.

I had imagined using alternatives would allow the symlink
/lib/systemd/system/display-manager.service to be provided by
systemd-units (as it is now), just pointed at /etc/alternatives
instead of prefdm.service.

 The link in etc would need to be managed by alternatives, but I'm not
 sure, if it's really necessary.

In order to do that, wouldn't an RPM have to own the service link in
/etc?  I was under the impression that packages weren't supposed to
own anything under /etc/systemd/system.

Regardless, I think I'm off-topic from the rest of the thread, so I
will leave these details alone for the time being.

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Re: Posting not allowed?

2011-07-18 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 17:38:30 -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote:
 I'm using the gmane gateway to read the list and I'm getting Posting
 not allowed errors across all the lists I've tried. Is it just me or
 are others seeing this?

Hrm...seems tin isn't getting a FQDN when starting up and then refusing
to post...probably my ISP being weird. :(

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Jon Ciesla

 On Mon, 18 Jul 2011, Lennart Poettering wrote:

 On Mon, 18.07.11 15:13, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:

  On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 20:57 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
   On Mon, 18.07.11 20:54, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com)
 wrote:
  
   
Hi,
   
2011/7/18 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com:
 This article recommends ending /etc/sysconfig

 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/on-etc-sysinit.html

   
Generally speaking I like the idea of dropping /etc/sysconfig. I
 think
the right way it keeping minimal, standardized configuration in
/etc/services.conf/ or something like that.
  
   No. There is no need for a directory that replaces /etc/sysconfig.
 It's
   borked. If a daemon has not configuration file but should have one,
 then
   fix the daemon, don't fake a configuration file.
 
  Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
  need be fixed Lennart.

 Hmm? Which ones in fedora can't? Are you suggesting we are shipping
 software that cannot be modified? If so, please explain which one that
 is, since we need to remove it from the distro then. Fedora only
 includess Free Software, and software that cannot be modified would not
 qualify as that.


 I'd suggest we're shipping software that doesn't need to be modified,
 doesn't need to be fixed.  Saying those daemons need to be fixed is like
 saying a pregnant woman need to go to the hospital to be cured.
 Pregnancy and /etc/sysconfig are perfectly natural and healthy.  Pregnant
 women and /etc/sysconfig both have perfectly valid use cases and do not
 need to be fixed :)

Yes, but pregnancy is of finite duration.  Thank $_DEITY.  I think the
point is that some sort of gentle sunset for /etc/sysconfig is desirable.
I agree with that.  Forced migration?  Madness.

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Re: on /etc/sysconfig

2011-07-18 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Tom Lane t...@redhat.com wrote:
 Well, if they didn't need fixed before, they'll certainly need fixed
 when you make them start keeping their configuration info someplace else

Yeah -- daemons that can be configured with commandline options or
envvars are Just Fine.

If those options can be tweak without getting into conflict with the
rpm-maintained init script / service file, that is actually _a
seriously good feature_. My sysadmin self wants to have a way to
override any vars defined in the service file, preferrably in a
directory similar to sysconfig.

Lennert's review of what we have currently in /etc/sysconfig is
correct -- a horrid mess. A cleanup is needed. But we can't do away
with the ability to override the shipped configuration.

For example - I often use those overrides to point a daemon to a
different config file or dir, so as to make config changes without
concern of what installed pkgs may do. This insulates the setup from
configfiles that aren't marked as config, or new files dropped into a
conf.d directory.

I have used the same technique in cases where I'd run several
instances of the same daemon in different ports or intefaces, and the
init script was too scary to copy and edit (and maintain going
forward). With service files being simpler, this use case goes away -
cp the service file and editing it becomes a lot more doable.

 than /etc/sysconfig.  This proposal sounds more like wait, systemd has
 not yet broken everything in sight, how can we solve that problem?

Heh -- I do like systemd replacing init and streamlining some things.
But there's a limit to everyone's comfort on the speed of change...
folks could take the world domination track /a little bit slower/.

There's also a lot to learn from completing one stage before taking
the next 5 :-)


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[perl-Inline-Files] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 4cf01501b7dc0622faff1a7c16df3ec42e0d5b2c
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:20:16 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-Inline-Files.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Inline-Files.spec b/perl-Inline-Files.spec
index 0196ed3..42e17b2 100644
--- a/perl-Inline-Files.spec
+++ b/perl-Inline-Files.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Inline-Files
 Version:0.67
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Allows for multiple inline files in a single perl file
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 0.67-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Mon Jul 11 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 0.67-1
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[perl-List-MoreUtils] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit fcef96e8f8750107f97c50085b2d8ea0b22df34a
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:20:18 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-List-MoreUtils.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-List-MoreUtils.spec b/perl-List-MoreUtils.spec
index b823562..9b11c0d 100644
--- a/perl-List-MoreUtils.spec
+++ b/perl-List-MoreUtils.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-List-MoreUtils
 Version:0.32
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
 Summary:Provide the stuff missing in List::Util
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -47,6 +47,9 @@ make test
 
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 0.32-3
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Tue Jul 12 2011 Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org 0.32-2
 - rebuild to fix broken rawhide deps
 
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[perl-Test-Inter] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 2572ae068bf5075989671594b4f6872d38deeb33
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:20:35 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-Test-Inter.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Test-Inter.spec b/perl-Test-Inter.spec
index 6cd9218..a00da8f 100644
--- a/perl-Test-Inter.spec
+++ b/perl-Test-Inter.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Test-Inter
 Version:1.03
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Framework for more readable interactive test scripts
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -42,6 +42,9 @@ find $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 
2/dev/null \;
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 1.03-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Thu Jul 07 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 1.03-1
 - 1.03 bump
 
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[perl-Test-Refcount] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit de42297e9810f07ad9bf244c15d3a30266f6d757
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:25:57 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-Test-Refcount.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Test-Refcount.spec b/perl-Test-Refcount.spec
index 41f3f73..fe94371 100644
--- a/perl-Test-Refcount.spec
+++ b/perl-Test-Refcount.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Test-Refcount
 Version:0.07
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Assert reference counts on objects
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -53,6 +53,9 @@ make test
 
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 0.07-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Tue Jun 21 2011 Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com - 0.07-1
 - update to 0.07
 
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[perl-Pod-Eventual] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 32807ff5efccf44304eae873220f41f1b1c5fe95
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:26:39 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-Pod-Eventual.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Pod-Eventual.spec b/perl-Pod-Eventual.spec
index c86c7dc..ddae291 100644
--- a/perl-Pod-Eventual.spec
+++ b/perl-Pod-Eventual.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Pod-Eventual
 Version:0.093330
-Release:6%{?dist}
+Release:7%{?dist}
 Summary:Read a POD document as a series of trivial events
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -67,6 +67,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 0.093330-7
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Wed Jul 13 2011 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 0.093330-6
 - drop circular Pod::Coverage::TrustPod buildreq
 - don't run release tests
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[perl-Time-modules] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 8df02f0e8c4086cbb52e77e96a2613681f1d8b7c
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:30:39 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-Time-modules.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Time-modules.spec b/perl-Time-modules.spec
index 45c36ae..ec656bb 100644
--- a/perl-Time-modules.spec
+++ b/perl-Time-modules.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Time-modules
 Version:2011.0517
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl modules for parsing dates and times   
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:Copyright only and Public Domain
@@ -41,6 +41,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*.3*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 2011.0517-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Thu Jul 07 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 2011.0517-1
 - 2011.0517 bump
 - Clean up spec file
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[perl-HTTP-Server-Simple] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit fcf3b98e166e51e1df3274f6673b1ac62fc91666
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:32:44 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-HTTP-Server-Simple.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-HTTP-Server-Simple.spec b/perl-HTTP-Server-Simple.spec
index bdf5660..aaa5922 100644
--- a/perl-HTTP-Server-Simple.spec
+++ b/perl-HTTP-Server-Simple.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-HTTP-Server-Simple
 Version:0.44
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Very simple standalone HTTP daemon
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -52,6 +52,9 @@ make test
 
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 0.44-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Tue Jul  5 2011 Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org - 0.44-1
 - update to 0.44
 - add explicit Requires for perl(CGI), since it is not autodetected (bz719048)
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[perl-Config-Properties] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit c598892c55daf03a780170b04c014b90a0500013
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:31:17 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-Config-Properties.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Config-Properties.spec b/perl-Config-Properties.spec
index 5089361..3524eba 100644
--- a/perl-Config-Properties.spec
+++ b/perl-Config-Properties.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Config-Properties
 Version:1.72
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Read and write property files
 License:GPL+ or Artistic
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -58,6 +58,9 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 1.72-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Sat Jul 16 2011 Xavier Bachelot xav...@bachelot.org 1.72-1
 - Update to 1.72.
 
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[perl-SDL] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 09530da674af3c1ed683878e40c0dc7c6356d2bf
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:36:52 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-SDL.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-SDL.spec b/perl-SDL.spec
index 3b3a226..fb5b50c 100644
--- a/perl-SDL.spec
+++ b/perl-SDL.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-SDL
 Version:2.2.6
-Release:3%{?dist}
+Release:4%{?dist}
 Summary:SDL bindings for the Perl language
 Group:  Development/Libraries
 License:LGPLv2+
@@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ chmod -R u+w $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/*
 
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 2.2.6-4
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Fri Jul 15 2011 Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com - 2.2.6-3
 - Rebuild for new SDL_gfx
 
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[perl-File-Remove] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 3069f454861e5e106433773e4580d6e7eac4a502
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:37:05 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-File-Remove.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-File-Remove.spec b/perl-File-Remove.spec
index fd1c9e4..57999a7 100644
--- a/perl-File-Remove.spec
+++ b/perl-File-Remove.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:  perl-File-Remove
 Version:   1.50
-Release:   1%{?dist}
+Release:   2%{?dist}
 Summary:   Convenience module for removing files and directories
 License:   GPL+ or Artistic
 Group: Development/Libraries
@@ -46,6 +46,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 1.50-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Sun Jul 17 2011 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 1.50-1
 - Upstream update.
 - Add File-Remove-1.50.diff/Remove File-Remove-1.49.diff.
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[perl-HTML-Template] Perl mass rebuild

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Sabata
commit 34c721f78e58c9649fe43ba81920dfe92fe7d532
Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 13:38:42 2011 +0200

Perl mass rebuild

 perl-HTML-Template.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-HTML-Template.spec b/perl-HTML-Template.spec
index 940da8e..84442c4 100644
--- a/perl-HTML-Template.spec
+++ b/perl-HTML-Template.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-HTML-Template
 Version:2.10
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Perl module to use HTML Templates
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -57,6 +57,9 @@ TEST_SHARED_MEMORY=1 make test
 
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com - 2.10-2
+- Perl mass rebuild
+
 * Thu Jul 14 2011 Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org  - 2.10-1
 - update to 2.10
 
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File Fedora-Rebuild-v0.7.0.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Fedora-Rebuild:

892a7940f43286f279d076c59dae11d8  Fedora-Rebuild-v0.7.0.tar.gz
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[perl-Fedora-Rebuild] 0.7.0 bump

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Pisar
commit e4526ff362f8041e93053afd3621a14263b4696e
Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com
Date:   Mon Jul 18 16:36:54 2011 +0200

0.7.0 bump

 .gitignore   |1 +
 perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec |6 +-
 sources  |2 +-
 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore
index cafafd0..d7091bb 100644
--- a/.gitignore
+++ b/.gitignore
@@ -4,3 +4,4 @@
 /Fedora-Rebuild-v0.4.1.tar.gz
 /Fedora-Rebuild-v0.5.0.tar.gz
 /Fedora-Rebuild-v0.5.1.tar.gz
+/Fedora-Rebuild-v0.7.0.tar.gz
diff --git a/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec b/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec
index c1c4ec2..86cecca 100644
--- a/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec
+++ b/perl-Fedora-Rebuild.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 # This file is lincensed under the terms of GPLv2+.
 Name:   perl-Fedora-Rebuild
-Version:0.5.1
+Version:0.7.0
 Release:1%{?dist}
 Summary:Rebuilds Fedora packages from scratch
 License:GPLv3+
@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(RPM2)
 BuildRequires:  perl(RPM::VersionCompare)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Scalar::Util)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Storable)
+BuildRequires:  perl(Term::ProgressBar)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Simple)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Thread::Semaphore)
 BuildRequires:  perl(threads)
@@ -69,6 +70,9 @@ make test
 %{_mandir}/man3/*
 
 %changelog
+* Mon Jul 18 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 0.7.0-1
+- 0.7.0 bump
+
 * Fri Jul 15 2011 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com - 0.5.1-1
 - 0.5.1 version
 
diff --git a/sources b/sources
index 0c21098..cd971eb 100644
--- a/sources
+++ b/sources
@@ -1 +1 @@
-962f8094ddf8580910b5eadbc1c7db98  Fedora-Rebuild-v0.5.1.tar.gz
+892a7940f43286f279d076c59dae11d8  Fedora-Rebuild-v0.7.0.tar.gz
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[perl-Fedora-Rebuild/f15] 0.7.0 bump

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Pisar
Summary of changes:

  e4526ff... 0.7.0 bump (*)

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[perl-Fedora-Rebuild/f14] 0.7.0 bump

2011-07-18 Thread Petr Pisar
Summary of changes:

  e4526ff... 0.7.0 bump (*)

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[Bug 721337] perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.5.0 is available

2011-07-18 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-07-18 
11:04:41 EDT ---
perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc14 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 14.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc14

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[Bug 721337] perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.5.0 is available

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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-07-18 
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perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc15 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 15.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc15

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[Bug 715240] perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.3.0 is available

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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-07-18 
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perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc15 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 15.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc15

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[Bug 716407] perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.4.1 is available

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--- Comment #5 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-07-18 
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perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc15 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 15.
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[Bug 716407] perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.4.1 is available

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--- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-07-18 
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perl-Fedora-Rebuild-0.7.0-1.fc14 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 14.
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[Bug 722604] please upgrade to HTML-Format-2.09

2011-07-18 Thread bugzilla
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Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA

--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-07-18 
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Package perl-HTML-Format-2.09-1.fc14:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora 14 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror within two days.
Update it with:
# su -c 'yum update --enablerepo=updates-testing perl-HTML-Format-2.09-1.fc14'
as soon as you are able to.
Please go to the following url:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-HTML-Format-2.09-1.fc14
then log in and leave karma (feedback).

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[rt3/el6] BR: perl(Digest::SHA)

2011-07-18 Thread Xavier Bachelot
commit fa045894e2470cbb279a89ca877287d433c16c1d
Author: Xavier Bachelot xav...@bachelot.org
Date:   Tue May 3 01:21:17 2011 +0200

BR: perl(Digest::SHA)

 rt3.spec |6 +-
 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/rt3.spec b/rt3.spec
index 2714374..00bfeb8 100644
--- a/rt3.spec
+++ b/rt3.spec
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@
 
 Name:  rt3
 Version:   3.8.10
-Release:   2%{?dist}
+Release:   2%{?dist}.1
 Summary:   Request tracker 3
 
 Group: Applications/Internet
@@ -77,6 +77,7 @@ BuildRequires: perl(DBIx::SearchBuilder) = 1.54
 BuildRequires: perl(Devel::StackTrace) = 1.19
 BuildRequires: perl(Digest::base)
 BuildRequires: perl(Digest::MD5) = 2.27
+BuildRequires: perl(Digest::SHA)
 BuildRequires: perl(Email::Address)
 BuildRequires: perl(Encode) = 2.13
 BuildRequires: perl(Errno)
@@ -447,6 +448,9 @@ fi
 %endif
 
 %changelog
+* Tue May 03 2011 Xavier Bachelot xav...@bachelot.org - 3.8.10-2.1
+- Add BR: perl(Digest::SHA).
+
 * Sat Apr 16 2011 Ralf Corsépius corse...@fedoraproject.org - 3.8.10-2
 - Work-around rpm's depgenerator defect: 
   Filter Requires: perl(DBIx::SearchBuilder::Handle::).
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[perl-Object-InsideOut] fix filtering; clean up requires

2011-07-18 Thread Iain Arnell
commit 3b0b77697fc2245288f03470871af2fa9f80d540
Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
Date:   Tue Jul 19 06:28:10 2011 +0200

fix filtering; clean up requires

 perl-Object-InsideOut.spec |   23 +--
 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/perl-Object-InsideOut.spec b/perl-Object-InsideOut.spec
index be4ed95..31b073f 100644
--- a/perl-Object-InsideOut.spec
+++ b/perl-Object-InsideOut.spec
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
 Name:   perl-Object-InsideOut
 Version:3.81
-Release:1%{?dist}
+Release:2%{?dist}
 Summary:Comprehensive inside-out object support module
 
 Group:  Development/Libraries
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Exception::Class) = 1.29
 BuildRequires:  perl(Want) = 0.12
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod)
 BuildRequires:  perl(Test::Pod::Coverage)
-%if !%{defined perl_bootstrap}
+%if !0%{?perl_bootstrap}
 BuildRequires:  perl(Math::Random::MT::Auto)
 %endif
 Requires:   perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_%(eval `%{__perl} -V:version`; echo 
$version))
@@ -27,11 +27,13 @@ BuildRequires:  perl(Test::More) = 0.5
 BuildRequires:  perl(B)
 
 ### auto-added reqs!
-Requires:   perl(B)
-Requires:   perl(Config)
 Requires:   perl(Data::Dumper)
-Requires:   perl(Exception::Class) = 1.29
-Requires:   perl(Scalar::Util) = 1.23
+
+%{?perl_default_filter}
+%global __provides_exclude 
%{?__provides_exclude:%__provides_exclude|}perl\\(Object::InsideOut\\)$
+%if 0%{?perl_bootstrap}
+%global __requires_exclude 
%{?__requires_exclude:%__requires_exclude|}perl\\(Math::Random::MT::Auto\\)
+%endif
 
 %description
 This module provides comprehensive support for implementing classes using the
@@ -44,10 +46,6 @@ set as readonly to prevent accidental modifications to the 
ID. Object data
 (i.e., fields) are stored within the class's package in either arrays indexed
 by the object's ID, or hashes keyed to the object's ID.
 
-%{?perl_default_filter}
-%global __provides_exclude %{?__provides_exclude}|perl\\(Object::InsideOut\\)
-%global __requires_exclude 
%{?__requires_exclude}|perl\\(t::Imp|perl\\(Math::Random::MT::Auto\\)
-
 %prep
 %setup -q -n Object-InsideOut-%{version}
 
@@ -75,6 +73,11 @@ make test
 
 
 %changelog
+* Tue Jul 19 2011 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 3.81-2
+- fix provides filter
+- on filter requires when bootstrapping
+- remove unnecessary explicit requires
+
 * Sat Jul 02 2011 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com 3.81-1
 - minimize the impact of perl_bootstrap on testing; it's only
   perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto which causes circular deps and is
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