Re: [Geany-Devel] pull request on GitHub, to add GeanyHighlightSelectedWords, into Geany Plugins
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Colomban Wendling lists@herbesfolles.org wrote: Le 31/05/2015 07:41, Lex Trotman a écrit : On 31 May 2015 at 11:46, Lex Trotman ele...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 May 2015 at 08:05, Thomas Martitz ku...@rockbox.org wrote: Am 30.05.2015 um 03:19 schrieb Matthew Brush: Just because it's such a trivial search algorithm, using strstr() is much more simple and probably more efficient than using Scintilla's API to find text, […] So its almost certainly slower than strstr(). And on my system strstr() is a builtin that can use any hardware support available. One thing that will make strstr() sound a lot less sexy is that you probably actually want to find *words* rather than substrings. Meaning that if the word under the cursor is i, you probably don't want to highlight all is in e.g. an identifier highlighting, but only whole words. And while Scintilla search has the logic for this (SCFIND_WHOLEWORD), it'd probably be annoying/redundant to re-do with the same logic. Apart that, yes, strstr() from an optimized libc like glibc will be hard to beat without also using very smart optimization combined with use of specialized CPU instruction sets. Cheers, Colomban Just to clarify, when I mentioned strstr(), I meant it as an example of using some existing implementation (instead of creating something new) rather than suggesting strstr() is the best one. If there's something in Scintilla which would make it easier to implement this feature, just go for it. If there's some performance problem, it can always be improved afterwards (but I don't think there will be any). Regards, Jiri ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Geany-Devel] pull request on GitHub, to add GeanyHighlightSelectedWords, into Geany Plugins
Le 01/06/2015 15:48, Steven Blatnick a écrit : […] Odd, I don't see this reply from Marius in my inbox. Was this in private separately? No, it was sent to the mailing list just like the rest… maybe a spam filter got confused? […] BTW, @Steven: search_find_text() is *NOT* part of the Geany plugin API and never have been. The fact you can use it is a issue of the way Geany API was exported, and it is fixed in the dev version (meaning it won't work anymore). Not also that this never worked on Windows. Thanks for the information. I wonder if any of my other plugins include non-API calls. Is there an easy way to tell what is allowed and what shouldn't be? Anything not in the API documentation shouldn't be used. And as said the current Geany development version (1.25) has this fixed so you plugin shouldn't load anymore if it uses something it shouldn't. Is there a reason we don't allow plugins to tie into anything when they could besides trying to stop plugins from being overtly complicated or breaking things? The reason is that we don't want to break the API every few minutes, so this means it has to be defined. This can't reasonably include every function in Geany, as it would basically mean we can't change anything inside Geany without potentially breaking plugins. So we choose what to render public (based on needs basically), and we then commit to maintain this API (to a reasonable extent, at least, meaning we will only change it if there is an important reason to). To use the example of search_find_text() as how non-API things can change, this function actually changed in the 1.24 cycle [1] to fix a real problem. All this said, if you need a function that isn't part of the API, ask (or make a PR!) and we'll probably be happy to add it if it makes sense. Regards, Colomban [1] http://git.geany.org/geany/commit/?id=5412a244ba903624053cdaf7393732bc3af689ea ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Geany-Devel] pull request on GitHub, to add GeanyHighlightSelectedWords, into Geany Plugins
Thanks Matthew. I was wondering how to tell what was API. (Colomban can disregard that question in the other email). On 05/29/2015 08:29 PM, Matthew Brush wrote: Lessons learned: - Messing with build system flags can affect API (and ABI for that matter) without ever touching the code itself. - Never use any function that isn't explicitly listed in Geany's Doxygen documentation. Even if a function has no or incomplete documentation, if it shows up in the API reference docs (ie. has a /** or similar Doxyen comment), it's safe to use, otherwise it probably should be, or it's a bug. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Geany-Devel] pull request on GitHub, to add GeanyHighlightSelectedWords, into Geany Plugins
I kind of like the idea of selection highlighting being separate highlighting from the search highlighting. That allows you to have multiple groups highlighted differently, which has come in handy in using plugin versions of these features. Alternatively, perhaps we could add having multiple search groups, but that may be more complicated or less intuitive. On 05/29/2015 07:09 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: E.g, have a setting in the preferences Dynamically mark the current word that decides whether mark all is dynamic or not, and have shift+ctrl+m toggle the marking, whether it's dynamic or not. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: [Geany-Devel] pull request on GitHub, to add GeanyHighlightSelectedWords, into Geany Plugins
Responses: On 05/29/2015 07:21 PM, Colomban Wendling wrote: Le 29/05/2015 00:10, marius buzea a écrit : https://github.com/sblatnick/geany-plugins/blob/master/quick-search/src/quick-search.c. […] The quick-search.c calls Geany's search_find_text several times in one processing, and each time a regex would be recompiled in search_find_text. This is, I guess, a small cost when the regex is just a string. Odd, I don't see this reply from Marius in my inbox. Was this in private separately? search_find_text() doesn't do regex search when the flags don't ask for it, it only uses SCI_FINDTEXT(). = BTW, @Steven: search_find_text() is *NOT* part of the Geany plugin API and never have been. The fact you can use it is a issue of the way Geany API was exported, and it is fixed in the dev version (meaning it won't work anymore). Not also that this never worked on Windows. Thanks for the information. I wonder if any of my other plugins include non-API calls. Is there an easy way to tell what is allowed and what shouldn't be? Is there a reason we don't allow plugins to tie into anything when they could besides trying to stop plugins from being overtly complicated or breaking things? If you need the function, tell us and we can probably add it. Though here all you need is SCI_FINDTEXT, that is already available through sicnitlla_send_commend(sci, SCI_FINDTEXT, flags, ttf). Ok, I'll look into that. Thanks, Steve ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.geany.org https://lists.geany.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devel
