B4 autoinstallation fails (gives a 'help' prompt)

2007-09-14 Thread Asko Kauppi

Current firmware: Q2C25

Upgrading to: Q2C26, OS579


** Trying with SD card **  (use of the microSD adapter is a BIIIG  
mistake, came out half torn!  :)

Pressing 'X' and powering on takes me to:

  USB 2 devices:
  /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
  USB 1 devices:
  Type the ESC key to interrupt automatic startup
  Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth   Arguments:
  Type 'help' for more information.
 
  ok

The Type help for more information and ok are not mentioned in  
the instructions I've read.  The SD card is FAT16 formatted 512MB  
microSD (with adapter). Formatted within OS X but should be right.

Anyone else seen the help prompt; what is it about?

Typing boot there seems to go somewhere, but no text whatsoever is  
printed on screen.


** Trying with a USB 1 era SD/USB adapter **

  USB 2 devices:
  /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
  USB 1 devices:
  /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],4/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
  /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],4/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/disk
  Found USB 1.1 disk!
  Type the ESC key to interrupt automatic startup
  Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],4/disk:\boot\olpc.fth  Arguments:
  Type 'help' for more information.
 
  ok

Again, I should not be getting the 'help' notion, right?

Typing 'boot' here gives:

  autore-version$ isn't unique
  do-usb-upgrade? isn't unique
...
and a lot of such not unique things


So, this points to olpc.fth having problems executing. Could it be  
linefeed issue?

I've downloaded the file in OS X and it seems to have retained Linux/ 
OS X (LF) linefeeds.

Any ideas?  :?

-asko

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Re: B4 autoinstallation fails (gives a 'help' prompt)

2007-09-14 Thread Mitch Bradley
Asko Kauppi wrote:
 Current firmware: Q2C25

 Upgrading to: Q2C26, OS579
   

What machine type?  A-test?  B1?  B2-1?  B2-2?  B3?  B4?  C1?


 ** Trying with SD card **  (use of the microSD adapter is a BIIIG  
 mistake, came out half torn!  :)

 Pressing 'X' and powering on takes me to:

   USB 2 devices:
   /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
   USB 1 devices:
   Type the ESC key to interrupt automatic startup
   Boot device: /sd/disk:\boot\olpc.fth   Arguments:
   Type 'help' for more information.
  
   ok

 The Type help for more information and ok are not mentioned in  
 the instructions I've read.  The SD card is FAT16 formatted 512MB  
 microSD (with adapter).Formatted within OS X but should be right.

 Anyone else seen the help prompt; what is it about?
   

Before issuing the ok prompt for the first time, OFW issues the Type 
'help' message.  If you then type help at the ok prompt you will get a 
summary of some of the most important OFW commands.  That's all it is, 
just general information.

Something is going wrong in the olpc.fth script.

Which version of the script is it?  You can find out by typing:

  ok  more sd:\boot\olpc.fth

The version string is on the seventh line, e.g.:

 Autoreinstallation version: 2007-09-13 21:09Z

My best guess is that the olpc.fth file is getting truncated, so that 
the last few lines, which do most of the work by calling functions 
defined earlier, are not being executed.

What are the last few lines that are displayed when you do the more 
command above?

The expected last few lines are:

  update-activate-and-boot
   then
then
 ;

 autore-version$ count type cr cr
 do-upgrade

The next to last line (autore-version$ count type cr cr) is supposed 
to display the version string of the autoupdater script.  The fact that 
you don't show that message suggests that the script is truncated before 
that line.

 Typing boot there seems to go somewhere, but no text whatsoever is  
 printed on screen.


 ** Trying with a USB 1 era SD/USB adapter **

   USB 2 devices:
   /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
   USB 1 devices:
   /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],4/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0
   /pci/[EMAIL PROTECTED],4/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/disk
   Found USB 1.1 disk!
   Type the ESC key to interrupt automatic startup
   Boot device: /[EMAIL PROTECTED],4/disk:\boot\olpc.fth  Arguments:
   Type 'help' for more information.
  
   ok

 Again, I should not be getting the 'help' notion, right?
   

The help is just a side effect.  The real problem is that the script 
is returning to the ok prompt instead of doing the upgrade thing.

 Typing 'boot' here gives:

   autore-version$ isn't unique
   do-usb-upgrade? isn't unique
 ...
 and a lot of such not unique things
   

That implies that major portions of the script are working correctly by 
defining new functions.   The isn't unique messages indicate that 
those functions are being redefined after having already been defined 
once before by the first (automatic) attempt to run olpc.fth .

The name (first word) on the last such isn't unique message is a clue 
about how far the script is getting before it dies.


 So, this points to olpc.fth having problems executing. Could it be  
 linefeed issue?
   

It is probably not a linefeed issue, unless the file contains mixed line 
endings.  OFW automatically senses the line-ending style by looking at 
the first line, and uses that style for the rest of the file.  The fact 
that you saw the isn't unique messages tells me that line endings are 
probably not the problem.
 I've downloaded the file in OS X and it seems to have retained Linux/ 
 OS X (LF) linefeeds.

 Any ideas?  :?

 -asko

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Re: Anybody do BGA rework?

2007-09-14 Thread Guylhem Aznar
Hello,

Been there, done that, for different devices - mostly PDAs.

First you *must* check the specs : optimism won't get you far if the
pins have different fonctions (like they have been swapped) or require
some minor adaptations. Get the reference sheets for each device, read
them and understand them.

If you still believe it should work, then comes the actual physical
work of reballing, etc:  normally you would use a BGA rework station,
but that ain't cheap.

However, you can do that with easy to find and unexpansive tools.
There is a nice visual guide with pictures and explainations on :
http://digit.que.ne.jp/visit/index.cgi?Linux%a5%b6%a5%a6%a5%eb%a5%b9%b3%ab%c8%af%a5%e1%a5%e2%2f%a5%cf%a1%bc%a5%c9%a5%a6%a5%a7%a5%a2%2fC700%a5%e1%a5%e2%a5%ea%c1%fd%c0%df

You can use excite.co.jp if you need translations, but the pictures
alone are quite evident.

Train yourself with dead hardware from ebay - you make many mistakes
the first time :-)

Be sure to have a soldering iron with the thinnest tip you can find,
stripping wire, and a hotglue gun. It will come handy should you
damage the motherboard by accident (it can happen; cutting a track,
etc).

If you need more information/help, tell me. I'm not sure I can help
you (it's been a while since my last serious hardware hack) but I'd be
happy to point you to people who can.

Guylhem

On 9/14/07, Albert Cahalan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm wondering if one could replace the 88W8385
 on a gumstix board with an 88W8388 swiped from
 an Xbox 360 wireless device.

 They appear to be the same chip package. This of
 course does not ensure that enough of the
 connections are compatible, but I think there is
 reason to be optimistic.

 It's this horrifying package: TBGA 132pin 8x8x1

 (any better ideas for getting 88W8388 hardware?)
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Re: Roadmap

2007-09-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Thanks, Kim.

- Bert -

On Sep 14, 2007, at 19:18 , Kim Quirk wrote:

 Sorry Bert... I feel like I updated this at the beginning of the  
 week when we pushed code freeze out... but it looks like the change  
 didn't take or something.

 I'm updating Trial-3 dates right now.

 Kim


 On 9/14/07, Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi  
 everyone,

 is the roadmap up to date?

 http://dev.laptop.org/roadmap

 In particular the dates in it?

 - Bert -


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Get involved - Measure Activity on the XO

2007-09-14 Thread Arjun Sarwal
Measure Activity on the XO
(The Activity which converts the XO into an oscilloscope, a spectrum
analyzer and a data logger !)


Release 9 of the Measure Activity (build  575 onwards) features an improved
UI and the following basic features -
* Apply an AC or DC signal into Mic_In port, or simply observe the sound
signal picked up from the Mic on the XO
* Watch the signal in time domain for frequency domain representation
* Toggle the bias voltage at the Mic_in port ON/OFF. This voltage is
required by many sensors.
* Log data at a specified interval, take a snapshot of the current waveform;
and draw a graph of the logged data too.



How can you help ?


(1) Help in software development of the activity. There are many refinements
and features that can further be added. I have put some of the priority ones
down as tickets in Trac. Have a look at #3435, #3437, #3438 and #3461.

(2) Do projects (and help document them ) around the Measure Activity. Ideas
ranging from building a low cost ECG system to a low cost intrusion alarm
system. I've built and tested two ideas illustrating the concept :
='A low cost intrusion alarm system' that makes use of a toy laser that I
powered from the USB and used a simple LDR (light dependent resistor)
connected to the MIC_IN. Switch on the bias, set the activity to DC mode;
observe the voltage change when the light path of laser upon the LDR is cut!

='Temperature' monitoring system that I made simply with an LM35 temp
sensor, and I powered the sensor from the USB port.


(3) Help develop content and curriculum around the Measure activity. Science
experiments, Physics concepts...being able to relate concepts with physical
phenomena through hands on experiments makes for great learning !
For example, kids can whistle into the mic and using the frequency domain
display mode in Measure, compare and learn about frequencies...


(4) Want to build a low cost science/physics/chemistry lab ? A tele-health
monitoring system ? Lots of possibilities to be explored. All new ideas
welcome!


(5) Help document such projects and other cool ideas . We would , in
probability, be going in for Makezine DIY style documentation of such
projects - with cool illustrations, photographs and explanation...




Get in touch with me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any details/clarifications.

Looking forward to great collaboration and support from the community.


sincerely,
Arjun

-- 
Arjun Sarwal ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
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