keyboard symbols

2007-10-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
I notice that some keyboards lack the multiplication
and division symbols. Providing them for all kids
would be good, even if they need to move elsewhere.

Other useful things found in Unicode:

bullet
star
heart
smiley
skull-and-crossbones
musical flat
musical natural
musical sharp
copyright symbol
registered trademark symbol
trademark symbol
check mark
dagger
double dagger
not equals symbol
degree symbol
pi
alpha
phi
omega
therefore symbol
center dot (math)
set union symbol
set intersection symbol
plus or minus symbol
power of -1
power of 2
spade
clubs
diamond
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Re: keyboard symbols

2007-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:15 , Albert Cahalan wrote:

 I notice that some keyboards lack the multiplication
 and division symbols. Providing them for all kids
 would be good, even if they need to move elsewhere.

Why those? They are not used universally. At least German kids are  
taught to use · (centered dot) for multiplication and : (colon)  
for division. And for real math formulae you don't need those either.

I agree that having easy access to more symbols is useful, though I  
doubt it makes sense to put them all onto the keycaps.

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Re: keyboard symbols

2007-10-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
Bert Freudenberg wrote:
 On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:15 , Albert Cahalan wrote:

   
 I notice that some keyboards lack the multiplication
 and division symbols. Providing them for all kids
 would be good, even if they need to move elsewhere.
 

 Why those? They are not used universally.

And even in places where they are used, like the US, they fall into 
disuse when you get to algebra.  The multiplication symbol is too much 
like the variable x, and the division symbol is replaced by 
numerator-over-denominator notation.

  At least German kids are  
 taught to use · (centered dot) for multiplication and : (colon)  
 for division. And for real math formulae you don't need those either.

 I agree that having easy access to more symbols is useful, though I  
 doubt it makes sense to put them all onto the keycaps.

 - Bert -


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Re: keyboard symbols

2007-10-09 Thread Albert Cahalan
On 10/9/07, Mitch Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bert Freudenberg wrote:
  On Oct 9, 2007, at 8:15 , Albert Cahalan wrote:

  I notice that some keyboards lack the multiplication
  and division symbols. Providing them for all kids
  would be good, even if they need to move elsewhere.
 
  Why those? They are not used universally.

 And even in places where they are used, like the US, they fall into
 disuse when you get to algebra.  The multiplication symbol is too much
 like the variable x, and the division symbol is replaced by
 numerator-over-denominator notation.

1. The target audience is mostly below algebra.
2. The cross product is used in college.

   At least German kids are
  taught to use · (centered dot) for multiplication and : (colon)
  for division. And for real math formulae you don't need those either.

Well, you have the colon, and I did suggest the centered dot.

I forgot the infinity symbol.

In case anybody wonders, the list comes from the symbols
that tend to show up in character set standards. I picked
though many of those while making a font.

infinity symbol
multiplication symbol
division symbol
bullet
star
heart
smiley
skull-and-crossbones
musical flat
musical natural
musical sharp
copyright symbol
registered trademark symbol
trademark symbol
check mark
dagger
double dagger
not equals symbol
degree symbol
pi
alpha
phi
omega
therefore symbol
center dot (math)
set union symbol
set intersection symbol
plus or minus symbol
power of 2
spade
clubs
diamond
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Auto loading of a usb key

2007-10-09 Thread ankita prasad
Hi,

Would the sugar environment automatically mount the a usb key eventually or
would we have to manually mount it?

-Ankita
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Re: [sugar] Auto loading of a usb key

2007-10-09 Thread Alexander M. Latham
--- ankita prasad wrote:
Hi,

Would the sugar environment automatically mount the a usb key eventually or
would we have to manually mount it?

-Ankita
--- end of quote ---

This already occurs. When a USB stick is plugged into the XO, it is mounted and 
shows up in the journal. You are also able to unmout the USB stick from the 
journal.

- AlexL
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Re: font size when running under emulation?

2007-10-09 Thread Mitchell N Charity
To get 1200x900 when running under emulation, you can use Xephry as a 
remote X display.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Help_and_tips#Run_a_Xephyr_remote_X_display
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/How_to_set_up_for_development_on_linux_emulation#getting_1200x900

Mitchell

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Re: font size when running under emulation?

2007-10-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On Oct 9, 2007, at 16:46 , Mitchell N Charity wrote:

 To get 1200x900 when running under emulation, you can use Xephry as  
 a remote X display.

 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/ 
 Help_and_tips#Run_a_Xephyr_remote_X_display
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ 
 How_to_set_up_for_development_on_linux_emulation#getting_1200x900

That's a real hassle to setup on Mac and even more so on Windows. If  
I'm running on Linux I can as well use sugar-jhbuild (which in fact I  
do).

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stderr/stdout msgs in sugar

2007-10-09 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Hello everyone,

when debugging an activity how does one get stderr/stdout
messages from Python in sugar. It is quite hard to debug blindly, not
knowing what errors Python is spewing out.

Thanks

Victor
Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth

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Re: stderr/stdout msgs in sugar

2007-10-09 Thread Mike C. Fletcher
Victor Lazzarini wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 when debugging an activity how does one get stderr/stdout
 messages from Python in sugar. It is quite hard to debug blindly, not
 knowing what errors Python is spewing out.
   
Start your activity from a developer's console (ALT-=) using:

sugar-activity YourActivityName

and the console should be treated as stdin/out/err for your activity.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers#How_do_I_test_a_Sugar_activity.3F

HTH,
Mike

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Re: [PATCH] xkeyboard-config: Swap combining accents in OLPC us map

2007-10-09 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
Bernardo,

Thanks, committed. Next time - could you please attach your patch
instead of putting it straight into the message body? Or we could open
a bug - and keep it open (forever) till all olpc materials are in.

Thanks,

Sergey

On 10/9/07, Bernardo Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry for this heavy traffic :-)

 diff -u -p -u -p -r1.36 us
 --- symbols/us  4 Oct 2007 21:06:29 -   1.36
 +++ symbols/us  8 Oct 2007 23:33:10 -
 @@ -783,8 +783,8 @@ xkb_symbols olpc {
 key TLDE { [ grave, asciitilde,dead_grave, dead_tilde ] };
 key AE01 { [ 1, exclam,exclamdown, exclamdown ] };
 key AE02 { [ 2, at,   notsign,notsign ] };
 -   key AE03 { [ 3, numbersign, 0x1000301,  0x1000301 ] }; // 
 combining acute
 -   key AE04 { [ 4, dollar, 0x1000300,  0x1000300 ] }; // 
 combining grave
 +   key AE03 { [ 3, numbersign, 0x1000300,  0x1000300 ] }; // 
 combining grave
 +   key AE04 { [ 4, dollar, 0x1000301,  0x1000301 ] }; // 
 combining acute
 key AE05 { [ 5,percent, 0x1000306,  0x1000306 ] }; // 
 combining breve above
 key AE06 { [ 6,asciicircum, 0x100030A,  0x100030A ] }; // 
 combining ring above
 key AE07 { [ 7,  ampersand, 0x1000302,  0x1000302 ] }; // 
 combining circumflex above

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New build 616

2007-10-09 Thread Build Announcer Script
Build 616 ChangeLog
Base OS:
- kernel - 2.6.22 - 20071009.1.olpc.ec54a65da6de043
* dcon: update SDRAM timing settings for version2 dcon (dilinger)
* dcon: don't yet BUG() on C1 dcon errors (dilinger)
* dcon: work around smbus hardware bug (dilinger)
* geode: lxfb: fix blanking (dilinger)
* [JFFS2] Trigger garbage collection when very_dirty_list size becomes 
excessive (dwmw2)
* [MTD] [NAND] Avoid deadlock in erase callback; release chip lock 
first. (dwmw2)
* [MTD] [NAND] Restore correct timing register values on resume.(dwmw2)
- sugar-datastore - 0.2.2 - b603f340b2
* Request binary data as dbus.ByteArray. (tomeu)
* #3351 Modify the entry paddings so that text can be drawn on a larger 
area.
* #3180: Recreate the index on mount failure of only removable devices. 
(tomeu)
* Offset support. (bcsaller)
* #3180: Recreate the index on mount failure of only removable devices. 
(tomeu)
* Do not index binaries. (bcsaller)
* Really fix offset. (bcsaller)
* Don't mount automatically at start. (tomeu)
* Exit cleanly when dbus goes down. (marco)
- sugar - 0.65 - 143f9ac9c6
* Save activity previews to the datastore as binary png images. (tomeu)
* Increase mount timeout to work around jffs2 issues. (marco)
* Temporary disable thumbnails. (marco)
Activities:
- Journal - 59
* Reduce the cache size to 80. (marco)

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Software status meeting on IRC (today, 21:00 EDT Boston)

2007-10-09 Thread Jim Gettys

We'll do IRC again at: irc.freenode.net, #olpc-meeting.

The roadmap and schedule have seen some revision: see trac for details.

***Please** go through trac, comment and close bugs that are done.
Please push bugs for first deployment.  If you aren't sure, put the bugs
into untriaged and we'll get you feedback.

Please examine at least the blocker and high priority bugs, for Trial-3.

You can easily use the query page in trac to see what open issues you
have.  http://dev.laptop.org has a number of common useful queries.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10day=9year=2007hour=21min=0sec=0p1=43

Status
Suspend/resume status
Priorities
What's left for Trial-3?
What's left for MP
Blockers for Trial-3
https://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assignedstatus=newstatus=reopenedorder=prioritypriority=blockermilestone=Trial-3col=idcol=summarycol=statuscol=ownercol=typecol=component
Power management
http://dev.laptop.org/query?status=newstatus=assignedstatus=reopenedkeywords=powerorder=priority

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Where I can download source code of OFW for OLPC?

2007-10-09 Thread Kein Yuan
Dear list,

Can anybody here kindly let me know where I can download OFW source code
for OLPC?  Under * *http://dev.laptop.org/git there is comments says No
commits.

Thanks a lot,
Kein
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Re: Where I can download source code of OFW for OLPC?

2007-10-09 Thread Mitch Bradley
svn://openbios.org/openfirmware

Build by make in cpu/x86/pc/olpc/build


Kein Yuan wrote:
 Dear list,
   
 Can anybody here kindly let me know where I can download OFW 
 source code for OLPC?  Under _ _http://dev.laptop.org/git there is 
 comments says No commits.
  
 Thanks a lot,
 Kein
  
 

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