automating lists of events, jams, etc.

2008-08-23 Thread S Page
Seth Woodworth wrote:
 I've migrated as many of the dates from the [[Events]] Page to the [[Xo 
 roadshow]] wiki page.  ...

People should annotate wiki pages for events, jams, meetings, etc. with
   [[start date::2008-08-22]].

Pages can query this instead of users manually updating lists every few 
weeks. For example, see 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Events#Upcoming_events_on_wiki.laptop.org

This already found a jam missing from 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Jams#Upcoming_Jams

It's fairly straightforward, for example replace
   The Physics Game Jam will be held
   August 29th-31st  2008
with
   The Physics Game Jam will be held
   [[Start date::August 29, 2008]]-[[End date::August 31, 2008]]

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Nifty, but does it put a laptop in a child's hands? ;-)

=== More details... ===

Every event page is different, so I didn't create Form:Event and 
Template:Event; instead you annotate the existing date on the page.

An annotation is much like a page link, so you can provide alternate 
text or hide it, e.g.
   [[Start date::2008-08-29 | around the end of August]]
   [[End date::2008-08-31| ]]  (nothing shows)

Date properties recognize most date formats in English, and you can 
include a time and maybe a time zone.  Note the *only* world-wide 
language-independent unambiguous date format is ISO8601:
   2008-08-29 21:30

I doubt it's worth annotating events in the past with this info.

MediaWiki caches the queries, which helps performance but means changed 
pages don't immediately appear in the results display.

You can also display query results as a timeline (like 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments), or as rss, vCard, etc.  See 
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Inline_queries#Result_formats

This can only show info from pages in the wiki.  But many events are on 
external web pages.  You could create a wiki page for each external 
event and give it start_date and end_date to make it show up in queries. 
   I did this for http://wiki.laptop.org/go/BookSprint_August_2008.  You 
could go nuts adding the extra local info on the Events page like 
has_attendees, piques_interest_of, 
requests_OLPC_support_in_the_form_of, etc. and query for this to make an 
Event planner table.  But it's probably more work than maintaining one 
Events page.
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Re: [sugar] is there something that eats develop.sig ?

2008-08-23 Thread Mitch Bradley

   3)  What started my muddle was that OFW did not *recognize* the 
 USB stick (until much later, once the system was rebuilt, when I 
 tried unplugging the external keyboard from the XO).  OFW would not 
 boot the customization stick - it jingled and let me invoke the 
 'ok' prompt (where commands I entered told me there was no u: device).
   

The u: devalias only applies to USB 2.0 mass storage devices.  disk: 
applies to either USB 1.1 or USB 2.0 mass storage devices, whichever is 
present.

USB keyboards are almost always USB 1.1 devices.

I wonder if your USB stick is a USB 1.1 device, or perhaps it is plugged 
into a USB 1.1 hub, or perhaps the presence of the keyboard is causing 
the stick to be detected in USB 1.1 mode.

I don't have a fully-formed explanation for your problems, but those are 
my preliminary thoughts.

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Re: updating OLPC_{Region} pages, with a payoff

2008-08-23 Thread Samuel Klein
I definitely like the idea of a G1G1 deployment page.SJ

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 8:48 PM, S Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Summary: people who know about deployments, please update the pages in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Deployments

 (Is there's a better e-mail list for deployments?)

 I added deployment data and a timeline of deliveries to Gregs's status
 in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments .  It's interesting and
 motivating IMO.

 It queries deployment pages (using Francesca/femslade's work) for the
 info.  So if you know more about a deployment, please update its
 OLPC_{Region} page using its [edit] or [edit with form] tab, or you can
 privately e-mail me the info and I'll do it.

 Should there be an OLPC_G1G1 page for the G1G1 deployment?

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Cerebro (was Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708))

2008-08-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I also tried using ps_mem.py to compare memory used by processes, but
 the method that ps_mem.py uses has changed as a result of kernel change.

 http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2008-08-22-ps-mem/ has the samples that I
 took, showing how they are difficult to compare.

Cerebro is running there for some reason (I've seen it in another bug
report already). I can't reproduce on a clean 2328 joyride, not sure
if it has been fixed or something weird is going on.

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Re: Workaround for the sound lockup?

2008-08-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's fixed in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14.

Thanks for the hint! Shame that I didn't know earlier...



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Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708)

2008-08-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've 703 and 2311 available to compare.  Here's a few things I found.

 --

 A test to compare available memory by eliminating buffer cache.

 Method: boot, wait for UI to be stable, switch to text console, echo 3 
 /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches, run free(1) and note the free column, repeat
 a few times.

 Result: build 703 has 123528 pages free, build 2311 has 93716 pages
 free.

Which row are you looking at here? In -/+ buffers/cache I get 130368.
This is joyride-2328.

ps_mem gives me your same output, except for cerebro.

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Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708)

2008-08-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I also tried using ps_mem.py to compare memory used by processes, but
 the method that ps_mem.py uses has changed as a result of kernel change.

 http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2008-08-22-ps-mem/ has the samples that I
 took, showing how they are difficult to compare.

How they are difficult to compare?

Btw it's a shame that the python processes are grouped all together. I
wonder if we can fix ps_mem to show them separately, with the full
command.

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Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708)

2008-08-23 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:36:17AM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
 Which row are you looking at here? In -/+ buffers/cache I get 130368.
 This is joyride-2328.

That test was using the free value on the first line, which matches
MemFree in /proc/meminfo.  I chose that because I knew that after the
cache drop the only cache remaining was needed by the processes that
were active.  Looking at -/+ buffers/cache for this test would not have
been useful, since the cached pages are effectively unreleasable despite
any memory demand.  I did look at the values, but there was no point
reporting them.  The value you report seems normal.

 ps_mem gives me your same output, except for cerebro.

I've no idea why cerebro chose to run.  Under what conditions is it run?

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Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708)

2008-08-23 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:01:07PM +0200, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 1:47 PM, James Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I also tried using ps_mem.py to compare memory used by processes, but
  the method that ps_mem.py uses has changed as a result of kernel change.
 
  http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/2008-08-22-ps-mem/ has the samples that I
  took, showing how they are difficult to compare.
 
 How they are difficult to compare?

They are difficult to compare *because* of the different method by which
ps_mem accounts for shared memory.  Every process was changed in some
way, but when you realise that the cause included a different accounting
method, you see how difficult they are to compare.

Take for instance the cat process, which should not have changed
unduly from 703 to 2311.  In the ps_mem of 703 the RAM used estimate is
464 KiB, but in 2311 it is 100 KiB.  While it looks great, it doesn't
match other evidence.  The change is mainly due to the different
accounting for shared memory.  The private memory changed from 72 KiB in
build 703 to 76 KiB in build 2311.

 Btw it's a shame that the python processes are grouped all together. I
 wonder if we can fix ps_mem to show them separately, with the full
 command.

I agree.

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Re: Cerebro (was Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708))

2008-08-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cerebro is running there for some reason (I've seen it in another bug
 report already). I can't reproduce on a clean 2328 joyride, not sure
 if it has been fixed or something weird is going on.

Cerebro is enabled in joyride builds, started from /etc/init.d; it
should be disabled in 8.2 builds at the moment.  How much memory usage
is cerebro responsible for?
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Re: Workaround for the sound lockup?

2008-08-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Martin Langhoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Chris Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's fixed in http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Firmware_q2e14.

 Thanks for the hint! Shame that I didn't know earlier...

Incidentally, the workaround was to turn up the volume in OFW.  The
sound lockups were only seen on machines that had the startup chime
muted.

(If OFW didn't make noise, it wasn't bothering to initialize the sound
hardware properly.)
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Re: Cerebro (was Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708))

2008-08-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cerebro is running there for some reason (I've seen it in another bug
 report already). I can't reproduce on a clean 2328 joyride, not sure
 if it has been fixed or something weird is going on.

 Cerebro is enabled in joyride builds, started from /etc/init.d; it
 should be disabled in 8.2 builds at the moment.  How much memory usage
 is cerebro responsible for?

6.5 Mib according to ps_mem

You are right, it's enabled in joyride... it's failing for me because
it can't find msh0 (not sure why).

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New joyride build 2330

2008-08-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2330

Changes in build 2330 from build: 2325

Size delta: 0.00M

-sugar 0.82.0-1.fc9
+sugar 0.82.0-2.20080822git454def195d.fc9
-sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-1.fc9
+sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-2.20080822git2e6be9ea55.fc9

--- Changes for sugar 0.82.0-2.20080822git454def195d.fc9 from 0.82.0-1.fc9 ---
  + Fix #6605 #7877 #7965 #7220 #7874 #7971 #7970 #7764 #7823 #7841

--- Changes for sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-2.20080822git2e6be9ea55.fc9 from 
0.82.1-1.fc9 ---
  + #7270 Add update functionality to Config in bundlebuilder
  + #7680 Widen activity tile entry
  + #7841 Wrap message in alert
  + #7881 Make Palette handle changes of the invoker widget

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New release8.2 build 756

2008-08-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2/build756

Changes in build 756 from build: 755

Size delta: 0.00M

-libX11 1.1.4-2.olpc3
+libX11 1.1.4-3.olpc3
-sugar 0.82.0-1.fc9
+sugar 0.82.0-2.20080822git454def195d.fc9
-sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-1.fc9
+sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-2.20080822git2e6be9ea55.fc9
-xkeyboard-config 1.3-2.olpc3
+xkeyboard-config 1.3-3.olpc3

--- Changes for libX11 1.1.4-3.olpc3 from 1.1.4-2.olpc3 ---
  + More fixes to the Amharic Compose table (The US English keyboard works)

--- Changes for sugar 0.82.0-2.20080822git454def195d.fc9 from 0.82.0-1.fc9 ---
  + Fix #6605 #7877 #7965 #7220 #7874 #7971 #7970 #7764 #7823 #7841

--- Changes for sugar-toolkit 0.82.1-2.20080822git2e6be9ea55.fc9 from 
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  + #7270 Add update functionality to Config in bundlebuilder
  + #7680 Widen activity tile entry
  + #7841 Wrap message in alert
  + #7881 Make Palette handle changes of the invoker widget

--- Changes for xkeyboard-config 1.3-3.olpc3 from 1.3-2.olpc3 ---
  + Fixes to the Amharic symbol file (#7474)

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Re: Cerebro (was Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708))

2008-08-23 Thread Ton van Overbeek
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 3:09 PM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 5:16 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cerebro is running there for some reason (I've seen it in another bug
 report already). I can't reproduce on a clean 2328 joyride, not sure
 if it has been fixed or something weird is going on.

 Cerebro is enabled in joyride builds, started from /etc/init.d; it
 should be disabled in 8.2 builds at the moment.  How much memory usage
 is cerebro responsible for?

 6.5 Mib according to ps_mem

 You are right, it's enabled in joyride... it's failing for me because
 it can't find msh0 (not sure why).

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Same for me. Joyride 2325 has cerebro enabled, but it aborts because
device msh0 cannot be found. This also hangs up the shutdown when
trying to kill cerebro. So somehow cerebro is enabled in 2325. Also
idle suspend is enabled again in 2325, while it should be off.
The msh0 disappearing might have something to do with the new libertas firmware.
I also have much more problems with wireless connections. Will do some
more testing.
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Re: Cerebro (was Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708))

2008-08-23 Thread pgf
ton van overbeek wrote:
  Also idle suspend is enabled again in 2325, while it should be off.

i think this was intentional.  now that we're building separate
release (Subject: New release8.2 build 7nn) and joyride streams, idle
suspend was re-enabled in joyride in order to help continue
flushing out suspend-related bugs.

paul
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Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Noticed that idle suspend was enabled again in recent joyrides.
pgf replied that this was intentional since we now have a revived 8.2
build stream.
But I have not seen any announcement yet on branching/freezing etc.
What is the status and which builds should we be testing for the 8.2 release?
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Media Lab: Fwd: [outages] Major file system outages and ML upgrade next week

2008-08-23 Thread Henry Edward Hardy
There may be some disruption of services at 1cc this week due to the
announced MIT Media Lab upgrades. At the moment we have no DHCP services at
1cc.

--HH.

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Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Subject: [outages] Major file system outages and ML upgrade next week
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi all,

In addition to the outages this weekend (while we rearrange our
machine room), we will also be upgrading our central file server
file.media.mit.edu (and its sidekick dell3.media.mit.edu) next week.
While this service interruption will be less major in scope than the
ones this weekend, it will still affect many systems here at the Lab.
It also needs to be done during a weekday so that we can have the
expert, on-site assistance of the file system software vendor.

The outage will happen either next Thursday, August 28, or possibly
next Wednesday, August 27 (it depends on the availability of the file
system expert). Plan for Thursday and we'll let you know as soon as
possible if it becomes Wednesday.

During the outage everyone's central Unix home directories, and
machines such as hub.media.mit.edu, ml.media.mit.edu, and
file.media.mit.edu (including any file shares they serve like machub
and winhub), will be unavailable. People's personal Web sites served
by web.media.mit.edu will also be unavailable. The outage will start
in the late afternoon around 3pm or so and will continue all night.
Everything should be back online before the next morning. Email and
general network access will be unaffected.

There is a much less used file server, dell3.media.mit.edu, which will
go offline the day *before* the file.media.mit.edu outage. This should
only affect a small number of people who use this server to mount the
/mas tree under special circumstances in order to work around
compatibility problems with using file.media.mit.edu directly. This is
mainly Mac OS X people who have configured the automounter to provide
access to the /mas tree (and they should know who they are).

Also during this time we will be taking the opportunity to upgrade
ml.media.mit.edu. This will involve a significant upgrade to ml's
hardware and operating system.

Currently, ml.media.mit.edu is an AlphsServer DS20 running Tru64 UNIX
v4.0G. It will be replaced by a Dell PowerEdge running Linux. Email,
ssh, and ftp services will work as they do now, and the upgrade brings
with it newer versions of many utilities and packages.  However, in
the event you have compiled some Tru64 (aka Digital UNIX) binaries for
use on ml, they, of course, will no longer work.

Our apologies for any inconvenience as we try to fit in all these
infrastructure upgrades before the start of the semester. Please alert
us to any problems this may cause so we can work out solutions as
quickly as possible.

Cheers,
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Write cannot handle Composed dead characters

2008-08-23 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello,
It looks like Write is unable to handle Composed dead characters, at
least for the Amharic keyboard.

http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8127

Things are more complicated by the fact that the right click menu in
Write has been disabled, so I have no way of knowing which GTK input
module is active with Write.
Any ideas - is this a known problem with Write ?

Thanks,
Sayamindu


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Re: Write cannot handle Composed dead characters

2008-08-23 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:45:11PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
 Hello,
 It looks like Write is unable to handle Composed dead characters, at
 least for the Amharic keyboard.
 
 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8127
 
 Things are more complicated by the fact that the right click menu in
 Write has been disabled, so I have no way of knowing which GTK input
 module is active with Write.
 Any ideas - is this a known problem with Write ?

May be you need to set GTK_IM_MODULE environment variable?


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Re: Write cannot handle Composed dead characters

2008-08-23 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:45:11PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
 Hello,
 It looks like Write is unable to handle Composed dead characters, at
 least for the Amharic keyboard.

 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8127

 Things are more complicated by the fact that the right click menu in
 Write has been disabled, so I have no way of knowing which GTK input
 module is active with Write.
 Any ideas - is this a known problem with Write ?

 May be you need to set GTK_IM_MODULE environment variable?


We are already setting this in olpc-session.

Thanks,
Sayamindu




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Re: Cerebro (was Re: Almost 50% less free memory in joyride-2302 compared with Update.1 (708))

2008-08-23 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
 6.5 Mib according to ps_mem

 You are right, it's enabled in joyride... it's failing for me because
 it can't find msh0 (not sure why).

 Marco
   

I filed #8128 to address the memory usage that seems excessive.

I have also disabled cerebro from start-up while this is being 
investigated and the issue with blocking shutdown process (#8108). 
Should be picked up at the next version of joyride.

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New joyride build 2331

2008-08-23 Thread Build Announcer v2
http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/olpc/streams/joyride/build2331

Changes in build 2331 from build: 2330

Size delta: 0.00M

-cerebro 2.9.12-1.olpc3
+cerebro 2.9.13-1.olpc3

--- Changes for cerebro 2.9.13-1.olpc3 from 2.9.12-1.olpc3 ---
  + 2.9.13: Disabled Cerebro on default start-up while working on #8128, #8108

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Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Noticed that idle suspend was enabled again in recent joyrides.
 pgf replied that this was intentional since we now have a revived 8.2
 build stream.
 But I have not seen any announcement yet on branching/freezing etc.
 What is the status and which builds should we be testing for the 8.2 release?

Michael and I have been working on creating an acceptable 8.2 test
candidate.  There have been 8.2-753, 8.2-754, 8.2-755, and 8.2-756
builds, but none of them have (so far) made it through initial QA here
at 1cc.  In particular, we tried to turn of X shared memory in the 8.2
stream to work around some of the known X corruption problems in
Browse, Etoys, etc, but this turned out to cause more problems than it
solved.  In 755 and 756 we reverted that and turned off EXA instead.
With koji out, we also had difficulty making a build which contained
the latest work from the sugar guys.  Build 8.2-756 is the first to
contain recent sugar work.

I believe the sugar snapshot made Friday inadvertently left out
several important sugar bug fixes.  I think the plan is for another
sugar snapshot Wednesday-ish -- but 8.2-756 is our best stable
candidate so far.  Michael (the release manager) will presumably
announce it as such after we do our usual local QA to ensure it really
is a reasonable candidate for test -- if he doesn't, it's because
we've found some other major issue we want to fix before we let a
release candidate loose on the world. =)  [We'd like to get gstreamer
and Record reverted to their 8.1 state to fix some video issues; that
hasn't been done yet.  Not sure if that will delay our first RC.]

We will freeze once we have an acceptable release candidate.  Again,
with the koji outage a number of people have been scrambling to get
their local fixes in, and it has been expedient just to continue
synchronizing with joyride to pull in everyone's latest work.  But the
8.2 stream has already diverged in some important areas: as noted in a
previous email, cerebro and idle suspend are disabled, and at the
moment X EXA acceleration is disabled as well.  The sugar team has
already forked from their 0.82 release for the stable stream.  So
we're getting darn close.
 --scott

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Fwd: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread Ton van Overbeek
Forgot to include devel@ and mstone in my reply to Scott
-- Forwarded message --
From: Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?
To: C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Many thanks for the clarification.
Now I (and I hope many others) have a good idea where things stand
w.r.t. 8.2 release and the 8.2 and joyride build streams.
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Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread Bert Freudenberg

Am 24.08.2008 um 00:04 schrieb C. Scott Ananian:

 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Ton van Overbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
 Noticed that idle suspend was enabled again in recent joyrides.
 pgf replied that this was intentional since we now have a revived 8.2
 build stream.
 But I have not seen any announcement yet on branching/freezing etc.
 What is the status and which builds should we be testing for the  
 8.2 release?

 Michael and I have been working on creating an acceptable 8.2 test
 candidate.  There have been 8.2-753, 8.2-754, 8.2-755, and 8.2-756
 builds, but none of them have (so far) made it through initial QA here
 at 1cc.  In particular, we tried to turn of X shared memory in the 8.2
 stream to work around some of the known X corruption problems in
 Browse, Etoys, etc, but this turned out to cause more problems than it
 solved.  In 755 and 756 we reverted that and turned off EXA instead.

The Etoys display corruption was solved in 754 but reportedly is back  
in 756:

https://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8008

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Re: Write cannot handle Composed dead characters

2008-08-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Khaled Hosny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 10:45:11PM +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta wrote:
 
 Hello,
 It looks like Write is unable to handle Composed dead characters, at
 least for the Amharic keyboard.

 http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/8127

 Things are more complicated by the fact that the right click menu in
 Write has been disabled, so I have no way of knowing which GTK input
 module is active with Write.
 Any ideas - is this a known problem with Write ?
   
 May be you need to set GTK_IM_MODULE environment variable?
 


 We are already setting this in olpc-session.
   

Not sure if it actually matters here but...

gtk is preloaded by rainbow, which is run as a system daemon and hence 
doesn't get the same environment of olpc-dm runned processes. If gtk 
does something with GTK_IM_MODULE in gtk_init(), we are probably in 
troubles. Easy way to verify is to disable rainbow by removing 
/etc/security.

Marco
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where is msh0 ?

2008-08-23 Thread Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos
Joyride: 2331
firmware: Q2E14
machine: B4

I don't see mshX in my interfaces. Is this a known issue? Didn't find 
anything similar in the archives, sorry if I 'm repeating it.

Pol


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Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
C. Scott Ananian wrote:
 Michael and I have been working on creating an acceptable 8.2 test
 candidate.  There have been 8.2-753, 8.2-754, 8.2-755, and 8.2-756
 builds, but none of them have (so far) made it through initial QA here
 at 1cc.  In particular, we tried to turn of X shared memory in the 8.2
 stream to work around some of the known X corruption problems in
 Browse, Etoys, etc, but this turned out to cause more problems than it
 solved.  In 755 and 756 we reverted that and turned off EXA instead.
 With koji out, we also had difficulty making a build which contained
 the latest work from the sugar guys.  Build 8.2-756 is the first to
 contain recent sugar work.
   

You are missing this one:

http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=59761

 I believe the sugar snapshot made Friday inadvertently left out
 several important sugar bug fixes.  I think the plan is for another
 sugar snapshot Wednesday-ish -- but 8.2-756 is our best stable
 candidate so far.

Just a couple really. But yeah, we will do snapshots on Wed.

Thanks,
Marco

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Re: where is msh0 ?

2008-08-23 Thread Gary C Martin
On 24 Aug 2008, at 00:31, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos wrote:

 Joyride: 2331
 firmware: Q2E14
 machine: B4

 I don't see mshX in my interfaces. Is this a known issue? Didn't find
 anything similar in the archives, sorry if I 'm repeating it.

Same here on joyride-2330, Q2E14, B4, ifconfig just shows eth0 and lo,  
sure it was there last time I was poking about a week or two ago.

--Gary

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Re: olpc school request

2008-08-23 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:54 AM, Jerry and Amy Higdon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks so much.
 When I search for OLPC I find many such references are made about buying for
 those really in need like Bangladesh...
 How can I find out if there is a program of sort for Bangladesh going right
 now or not?

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments

There isn't one.

 Jerry

 John 3:30 He must become greater and greater, and I must become less and
 less.

 - Original Message 
 From: Edward Cherlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jerry and Amy Higdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: devel@lists.laptop.org
 Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:17:58 AM
 Subject: Re: olpc school request

 2008/8/21 Jerry and Amy Higdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Greetings,

 I am a missionary who is inquiring upon olpc for a couple small schools in
 Bangladesh.
 I also work as a technology management professional for the past 25 years
 and have a heart for children.

 Who might I contact to find out if these schools could qualify for the
 program.

 Your question seems to be whether OLPC would accept an application to
 donate XOs to your schools. That is not how the program works. There
 are three ways to get XOs into a country.

 * Have the government buy a large number of units. This is what Peru
 and Paraguay (Uruguay) have done.
 * Have an NGO or private donor buy laptops through GiveMany. This is
 the case in Mexico, where billionaire Carlos Slim has made the first
 major purchase.
 * Get into the GiveOneGetOne program. I have no idea how G1G1
 countries are selected. The current list is Haiti, Rwanda, Ethiopia,
 Cambodia, Afghanistan, and Mongolia.

 Other processes should become available over time, but not yet.

 Whom might you approach for donations?

 How many children do you have?

 What are the local issues? (Economic, health, agriculture,
 environment, or whatever.)

 When your children get educated, what economic opportunities will they
 be able to take advantage of?

 Thank you for your help.


 Pastor Jerry

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 less.


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 And Children are my nation.
 The Cosmos is my dwelling place,
 And Truth my destination.





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Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ... but 8.2-756 is our best stable
 candidate so far.  Michael (the release manager) will presumably
 announce it as such after we do our usual local QA ...

 Unfortunately 756 appears to have screwed up some sort of definition
 for yum, resulting in 'yum install' failing for me with a
 RPM_GPG_KEY error.  {The keyfiles in the directory it is looking in
 appear unchanged from other builds, but 756 wants a keyfile ending
 in '-i386'.)  In 754 and 2330, 'yum install' worked for me.

 The result is that for my home setup/work, 756 is unusable.  (I need
 to download additional rpms.)  Guess I will have to wait until next
 wednesday to get back to using an up-to-date build from 8.2 stream.

Please file a trac bug to ensure we don't forget this one.  My guess
is that the upstream yum packages ought to include updated fedora
keys, and that we're not actually pulling those updated packages yet.
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Re: Which stream to test for 8.2 or have we officially branched now?

2008-08-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM, C. Scott Ananian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michael and I have been working on creating an acceptable 8.2 test
 candidate.  There have been 8.2-753, 8.2-754, 8.2-755, and 8.2-756
 builds, but none of them have (so far) made it through initial QA here
 at 1cc.

Between the X problems and the sound hard freeze the test efforts of
the Wellington volunteer crowd yesterday were a not particularly
productive :-/

Sadly, I had been so busy with the XS that I'd been out of touch with
the state of XO builds. Ah, well... with the Fedora infra back online
and all eyes on the 8.2 branch I sure hope there's a good candidate
for next Saturday.

cheers,



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Re: [Server-devel] Help test OLPC_XS_169 - RC1 for xs-0.4

2008-08-23 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 05:33:21PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 YES. I nowrealise that I forgot this bit of instructions (I think I
 included in an earlier set). It goes like this:
 
  - if you are upgrading, you *must* re-run domain_config yourbasedomain

OK, fair enough.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# find /etc -type l -lname '*fsroot*'
/etc/squid/squid.conf.old

[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# find /etc -type f -name '*rpmnew'
(nothing)
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Re: [Server-devel] Help test OLPC_XS_169 - RC1 for xs-0.4

2008-08-23 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Joshua N Pritikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 05:33:21PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote:
 YES. I nowrealise that I forgot this bit of instructions (I think I
 included in an earlier set). It goes like this:

  - if you are upgrading, you *must* re-run domain_config yourbasedomain

 OK, fair enough.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# find /etc -type l -lname '*fsroot*'
 /etc/squid/squid.conf.old

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# find /etc -type f -name '*rpmnew'
 (nothing)

That sounds like good news!

hmmm!




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