Re: ibus, a new input framework

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote:
 I just came across ibus, an input framework which seems to be designed
 to be a better replacement for scim. A presentation is available
 online at http://ibus-user.googlegroups.com/web/ibus.pdf
 Has anyone used this ? Any comments on how well this works and how
 stable this is ?

Reviving an old old thread. Apparently, Fedora is switching to ibus as
the default input method for F11
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/IBus --

Whether we like it or not, SCIM is not maintained upstream anymore, so
everyone is looking at ibus as the main candidate to replace it.

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Re: ibus, a new input framework

2009-01-21 Thread Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta
sayami...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just came across ibus, an input framework which seems to be designed
 to be a better replacement for scim. A presentation is available
 online at http://ibus-user.googlegroups.com/web/ibus.pdf
 Has anyone used this ? Any comments on how well this works and how
 stable this is ?

This is a F11 feature https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings
should have more details.



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Re: [Server-devel] XS 05

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Jerry Vonau jvo...@shaw.ca wrote:
 I have not run a full install for the latest xs-0.5, I ran an upgrade
 from a prior 0.5 install... I'm thinking that this could be a
 kernel/anaconda issue with the change in kernel headers for 2.6.27.

Frankly, I think it's the USB is not really supported issue :-/  --
so far, I've seen 2 problems that disappear if I use a cdrom...

 - Anaconda dies with a python error before it starts installing RPMs.
The error is about an iterator over partitions or disk devices. This
happens in graphical and text mode (less often in text mode).

 - Anaconda dies badly (the computer switches off - kernel hang?)
while installing one of the selinux policy packages. It may be an OOM
issue.

They are somewhat more likely with Via/EPIA systems.

However, you point out interesting issues. What problems does the
mismatched kernel cause?

 And the patch in my custom anaconda that doesn't copy stage2.img to RAM
 when using a hard drive for the source. My version of these patches
 apply cleanly against F9's anaconda version.

 This rpm would need to be installed on the build system and added to the
 main XS repo. I'm just at the point of testing, loader builds fine,
 looks to install the modules when run. I'm re-rolling the installation
 media so as mkimages adds the needed modules, so loader can install
 them, then on to testing the partitioning

I am keen on your anaconda magic, but it has to work really well for a
bugfix revision... otherwise, 0.6 might be a good chance...?

What do you think?



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Re: [Server-devel] XS as virtual image

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is it possible to run the XS server as a virtual Image. The school
 where we have currently deployed XOs has a windows 2003 server that
 could carry a virtual image... Its not what I called Ideal, but I was
 wondering whether it would work...

Yes, but with much grumbling...

 - networking will be a bit tricky to setup if you want the XS to
provide dhcp, nat, etc
 - give it at least 500MB RAM
 - once Moodle matures and starts getting, the performance might become an issue

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Re: [Server-devel] XS 05

2009-01-21 Thread Henry Vélez Molina

 Do you even get any kind of UI or does the install shut down with
 install exited abnormally [1/1]?

Could you be more specific?


 Can you confirm that you have the OLPCXS-0.5.1-dev03-i386.iso, please

yes we have it









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Re: [Telepathy] ANNOUNCE: telepathy-gabble 0.7.17

2009-01-21 Thread Morgan Collett
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:51, Morgan Collett morgan.coll...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:45, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
 The I accidentally an entire call *and* MUC release.

 Tarball:
 http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz
 Signature:
 http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz.asc
 Git repository:
 git://git.collabora.co.uk/git/telepathy-gabble.git
 http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-gabble.git (gitweb)

 Dependencies:

 * dbus 1.1.0 (D-Bus Tubes are no longer conditionally compiled)

 * dbus-glib 0.78 (fixes support for complex types in hashtables)

 F-10 doesn't have dbus-glib 0.78, only 0.76 so I can't add this to
 joyride yet. Do we want an OLPC-4 branch for dbus-glib to handle this?

 Its built in rawhide so should be headed to F-10 shortly. If you want
 it before then we could tag the F-11 version but it would be better if
 we could wait and then we don't have yet another fork we have to deal
 with.

 OK, I'll wait for it to land in F-10.

Just a note that dbus-glib 0.78 hasn't landed in F-10 yet. I've
updated OLPC-4 to telepathy-gabble 0.7.18 now, but still can't build
it for joyride.

Regards
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Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Marco,

Hello, I spent some time trying to get Sugar on a stick images
(which are basically livecd-tools based Fedora spins) running on
the XO from nand. Converting the image to jffs2 and adding
cafe_nand and jffs2 to the initrd was enough to make it boot.

You're awesome!  Thanks!

1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log.

Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the
problem?

2 X fades a couple of times and then hangs the system.

Happy to look into this.

I can reproduce 2 if I write the same image to an usb stick using
Fedora XO livecd-iso-to-disk. Could be either a regression in the
F10 updates or something wrong in the way SoaS images are built. I
have absolutely no idea about 1, but it would seem to be related to
jffs2/initrd, since it works fine from the usb stick.

It looks like you're making F10 spins, then?  I wonder what happens if
you try a Rawhide spin instead.  Could you share your instructions and
code?  I'd like to give this technique a try for our F11 rebase.

(At which point the difference between OLPC's image and SoaS will be
very small.  Maybe there'll be no difference at all, even.  ;-)

Thanks!

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XS 0.5.1 RC - Last round of testing...

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
Join me in one last round of testing for 0.5.1

This new release (candidate!) fixes the issues listed here

   http://dev.laptop.org/query?group=statusmilestone=xs-0.5.1

The 549MB ISO is (or will soon be...) in

  http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPC-School-Server-0.5.1-i386.iso

the sha1sum is 21b39dc045b8d36de573da165587ea763c74a89b

The updated xs-config and xs-activity-server packages are already in
the 'stable' OLPCXS repo too.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 17:36, Marco Pesenti Gritti
marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log.

 Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the
 problem?

 When running it directly it was sitting for a while and then exiting
 without any error (even in verbose mode). I should strace it.

I would gdb it first and only if that turns out being hard, then try
my luck with strace.

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[Server-devel] XO

2009-01-21 Thread Jerry
Hi All:

Ok, I just received my XOs, being an absolute newbie with the XO, if all
I see upon booting is a gray screen and the XO logo, and I don't get
asked for a name as shown at:
http://www.laptop.org/8.2.0/manual/XO_Starting.html
I need to load an os image on this puppy, correct? 

If I hold down the game keys I see school-mesh-0 found that good
right? ;-) 

Just need to know where I'm at before I start to play

Guess its time to get a developer key to be able fiddle with XS on OX.


Jerry


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Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5.1 RC - Last round of testing...

2009-01-21 Thread Dave Bauer
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Join me in one last round of testing for 0.5.1

 This new release (candidate!) fixes the issues listed here

   http://dev.laptop.org/query?group=statusmilestone=xs-0.5.1

 The 549MB ISO is (or will soon be...) in

  http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPC-School-Server-0.5.1-i386.iso

 the sha1sum is 21b39dc045b8d36de573da165587ea763c74a89b

 The updated xs-config and xs-activity-server packages are already in
 the 'stable' OLPCXS repo too.


I checked and the ISO does not appear to be available yet. Should it be
there now?

Thanks!
Dave


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Sucrose 0.83.4 Development Release

2009-01-21 Thread Walter Bender
Wow!!

-walter

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
 Dear Sugar Community,

 Since, this date is Feature, API and String freeze everyone was busy
 getting their features in.

  From a user point of view we want to highlight the following:

 === Naming alert on journal entry creation ===
 The journal's search and browsing capabilities are less useful if all
 entries are named the same regardless of their actual content or
 meaning to the user. That is why an alert has been added that encourage
 the user to set the title and other properties, like available in the
 journal detail view, of a newly created journal entry. This alert is
 only shown on the creation of a new journal entry, not on resume.

 === Display recent activities in the home view ===
 In order to make easier to continue past work, the home view will
 display recent entries in the activity palettes.

 You can decide if you want the activity icons to represent the last
 journal entry with a new setting in the favourites view palette:

 === Journal ===
 Tomeu Vizoso has been doing a wonderful work of bringing the journal
 implementation closer to it's design.The Object chooser can now be
 filtered by data type.

 A favourite filter has been added to the journal toolbar to give a
 better way of marking entries as 'important'. More regression fixes went
 into the support of removable devices after moving from maintaining an
 index file on the device to the use of POSIX calls.

 === New ColorToolButton Widget ===
 Benjamin Berg added a new ColorToolButton widget. It is already in use
 in the Write activity to select a colour for the text.

 === Control Panel===
 The 'About my XO' section has been renamed to 'About my Computer' to
 reflect the use of Sugar on non-XO hardware. Morgan Collett added the
 possibility to change the jabber server without restarting Sugar.

 === Autoconnect to Access Point ===
 NetworkManager does autoconnect on Sugar startup to the last Access
 Point you were connected successfully to.

 === Logout Option ===
 Sayamindu Dasgupta added a logout option to the xomenu. Eben Eliason
 added the accessibility of the xomenu to the groups and mesh view and to
 the friends tray in the frame.

 === New Logic for the devices positions ===
 The logic to position the frame devices has been reworked. Plug in your
 devices and try it out.
  [500 external devices eg. USB drive]
  [400 3rd party devices eg. speech]
  [300 transient connection devices eg. AP]
  [200 transient devices eg. camera]
  [100 static devices eg. battery]

 === Table of Content Support in Read  ===
 The Read activity now shows the Table of Content for PDF files which
 support this feature. This eases navigation of large PDF files considerably.

 === Acknowledgment ===
 A big thanks goes to all the translators, that are working so hard to
 make Sugar a terrific localized environment and the infrastructure team
 that provides our members with tools and services to make their live easier.


 Thanks everyone for your great contributions!

 You can find more details and screenshots at
 [1] http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Releases/Sucrose/0.83.4

 The Sucrose Release Schedule can be found here
 [2] http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Release/Roadmap#Schedule


 In behalf of the sugar community,
Your Release Team

 _

 == Glucose news ==

 === sugar-toolkit ===
 * separate debug settings from xsession {{Bug|163}}
 * show an alert on activity close for suggesting the user to set
 properties of the entry {{Bug|215}}
 * add a colorpicker to Sugar, only the ColorToolButton is public for now
 * move the palette to new style gobject properties
 * {{OlpcBug|3060}} Add the possibility of filtering the object chooser
 by data type
 * fix uninstallling of activities that use symlinks {{Bug|171}}
 * remove the hacks for asking the X server for screenshots and use
 gtk.Widget.get_snapshot() instead

 === sugar ===
 * make the journal entries in the favorites palette resumable
 * simplify the constants used to identify favorite layouts
 * separate debug settings from xsession {{Bug|163}}
 * add logout option {{Bug|207}} to xomenu (sayamindu, icon by eben)
 * change jabber server without sugar restart {{Bug|142}}
 * About my XO - About my Computer
 * {{Bug|196}} Fix setting the timezone in debian
 * autoconnect to AP that we connected to last {{Bug|8}}
 * add a favorites mode setting for deciding if the favorites view
 resumes by default or not
 * resume by default the last activity from the favorites view
 * implement filtering by file type for removable devices
 * {{Bug|132}} Filter by timestamp, not by mtime
 * add support for text queries on removable devices
 * dont abort if we cannot read a file from a removable device
 * add a favorite filter to the journal toolbar
 * sanitize the file name when we copy to removable devices
 * {{Bug|36}} Refresh the detailed view 

Re: [Server-devel] XS 0.5.1 RC - Last round of testing...

2009-01-21 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote:
  http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/other/OLPC-School-Server-0.5.1-i386.iso

 I checked and the ISO does not appear to be available yet. Should it be
 there now?

the rsync completed not long ago, so it's there now. Get it while it's hot...

cheers,


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Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
1 haldaemon fails to start and I couldn't find any error log.

 Maybe running it directly, rather than via init, will expose the
 problem?

When running it directly it was sitting for a while and then exiting
without any error (even in verbose mode). I should strace it.

 It looks like you're making F10 spins, then?  I wonder what happens if
 you try a Rawhide spin instead.  Could you share your instructions and
 code?  I'd like to give this technique a try for our F11 rebase.

I did it in a very manual/hacky way yesterday. Working right now on
doing it more cleanly, scripting a little and documenting, will post
something later tonight.

 (At which point the difference between OLPC's image and SoaS will be
 very small.  Maybe there'll be no difference at all, even.  ;-)

Right, that's where I want to get :)

Marco
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Re: [Telepathy] ANNOUNCE: telepathy-gabble 0.7.17

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Robinson
 Tarball:
 http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz
 Signature:
 http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/releases/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble-0.7.17.tar.gz.asc
 Git repository:
 git://git.collabora.co.uk/git/telepathy-gabble.git
 http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=telepathy-gabble.git (gitweb)

 Dependencies:

 * dbus 1.1.0 (D-Bus Tubes are no longer conditionally compiled)

 * dbus-glib 0.78 (fixes support for complex types in hashtables)

 F-10 doesn't have dbus-glib 0.78, only 0.76 so I can't add this to
 joyride yet. Do we want an OLPC-4 branch for dbus-glib to handle this?

 Its built in rawhide so should be headed to F-10 shortly. If you want
 it before then we could tag the F-11 version but it would be better if
 we could wait and then we don't have yet another fork we have to deal
 with.

 OK, I'll wait for it to land in F-10.

 Just a note that dbus-glib 0.78 hasn't landed in F-10 yet. I've
 updated OLPC-4 to telepathy-gabble 0.7.18 now, but still can't build
 it for joyride.

Hi Morgan,

As the 9.1.0 release is going to be based on F-11 and not F-10 now I
haven't pushed this one as the whole of joyride will be rebased at
somepoint.

Peter
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Re: SoaS on the XO progress

2009-01-21 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote:
 It looks like you're making F10 spins, then?  I wonder what happens if
 you try a Rawhide spin instead.  Could you share your instructions and
 code?  I'd like to give this technique a try for our F11 rebase.

* Clone git://git.fedoraproject.org/spin-kickstarts
* If you want F10 apply spin.patch
* Apply live.patch in /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/imgcreate
* sudo livecd-creator --cache=cache -c fedora-livecd-desktop.ks
* Grab livecd-iso-to-xo.sh attached to this mail (not really polished,
might leave stale files, mounts etc)
* sudo sh livecd-iso-to-xo.sh [isoname].iso [imagename].img

Same results as yesterday with F10 while F11 fails to /init (both
images built from an F10).

Marco


spin.patch
Description: Binary data


live.patch
Description: Binary data


livecd-iso-to-xo.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
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