Re: mkliveinitrd bug
Here are the problems I found so far: * console completely screwed up, which makes debugging a pain. * jffs2 related kernel trace while booting, does not seem to break things. * Network related kernel panic at the end. Sometimes halt the system, sometimes it doesn't. * X does not start for some reason. All in all we seem in a pretty bad shape :P Maybe setting up nightly builds will encourage someone with more kernel experience then me to take a look. Marcl ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: right pilgrim setup for 8.2.1 staging builds
On 09.02.2009, at 10:03, Ties Stuij wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 08.02.2009, at 10:49, Ties Stuij wrote: So did I choose the wrong branch, or is there a secret pilgrim-setup somewhere, with which the 8.2.1 staging images on xs-dev.l.o are built? I would really, really appreciate it if somebody can point me to the right setup! staging builds != 8.2.1 builds http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2.1-pkgs.html http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/staging-pkgs.html Can we call them 'builds that are stages (or steps if you will) towards 8.2.1'? I will call them anything you want. I will also adjust my mental picture of the whole setup, if they are not what I think they are. But I DO want the setup for those staging builds. I'll do just about anything you want... I'll bake you cakes, and send them to the US, I'll fix an Etoys annoyance of your choice (on my level though), I'll brush your shoes if I ever meet you, IF,... IF you can point me to the right pilgrim setup. It's nice to see those packages of the different stage builds, but they don't point to any repo(s). Or is it a puzzle? Please people, help me out here. Sorry, I was just suggesting that whereever you found your 8.2.1 set up there may be a staging setup that better reflects the actual progress of 8.2.1. I have no idea where that is located. - Bert - ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Devel Digest, Vol 36, Issue 12
Okay, I'll get my scripts posted to that ticket. Best, Wade 2009/2/6 Tiago Marques tiago...@gmail.com Hi all, I already mentioned an Acer One boots very fast from flash, like 5-10s to X server with window manager loaded. I remembered that I can do a TAR.BZ2 of the whole root of the SSD and put it online somewhere, if anyone cares to have a look to see what they have done at Linpus to speed up the boot of this particular Fedora flavour. We could supposedly download it from here: http://www.linpus.com/products_1.php# But, at least for me, it's not quite working. I volunteer for that effort but would like to have some help from Wade, since I've mostly used Gentoo since I became a penguin, and I don't known much else. Gentoo uses a different init system from most distros, so I never did do much init system hacking out of Gentoo. When I did do it(OpenSUSE and Ubuntu, mostly writing init scripts and toying with the boot process), it was something I didn't want to do again, I love Gentoo's baselayout too much - it's simple to work with and supports parallel init script startup for at least three years. Take a look at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg_HBgwRZS4 to get an idea of how fast it is. It boots the X and window manager and then starts loading network and ACPI stuff in parallel, it still takes a while for everything to be up but it's generally quite fast, especially if you just want to access local stuff. Best regards, Tiago Marques On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@laptop.org wrote: Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 07:57:02 -0500 From: Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OLPC upgrades To: C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org Cc: OLPC Devel devel@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 377b4440-aad7-412c-b22b-16158d6f4...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes A patch isn't really appropriate but generally speaking I: - Followed Mitch Bradley's instructions for tar-ing /dev. - Replaced the initrd with a 3 liner using busybox that just mounts NAND and calls switch_root. This involved undoing all the version stuff in the filesystem. - Replaced rc.sysinit with a 30 line script that starts the services I want and mounts the required points. - Removed the entire SYSV runlevel system. I was learning about all this stuff as I did it, but it still didn't take that long. And I have a lot of plans to make it even faster. A few things don't work right, like I'm still trying to figure out why there are no network interfaces...But If anyone would like to see the scripts I'd be happy to share them. How about bundling them up and attaching them to the Improve Startup Speed ticket http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/4349 . That way all the research that nobody does anything about because it diverges too much from the blessed Fedora will all be in one place. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: booting from ext2 formatted SD card
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Robert Howard rihow...@rawbw.com wrote: Sameer, Sure I do it all the time. If you can wait until the next OLPC-SF meeting I will help you then. regards, /Robert H. Figured out the glitch. On to the next step... Sameer On Feb 8, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: Is it possible to boot an XO from an SD card with an Ext2 filesystem? This is an XO with a dev key. I've followed instructions from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ubuntu_On_OLPC_XO but it sits at the OFW prompt saying Unrecognized program format Any pointers would be great. Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Google summer of Code?
Hi All, I noticed that quite a few organisations are starting to ramp up for GSOC and getting people to start thinking about proposals etc. Not sure if OLPC/Sugar are planning on participating but if so it might be worthwhile to start to get people thinking about what needs to be done etc. Cheers, Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: right pilgrim setup for 8.2.1 staging builds
Hi Ties, quote who=Ties Stuij we need to base a release on the latest 8.2.1 changes here in Nepal, however I can't find a public pilgrim repo that is actually configured right. If you wait about a day, cjb is doing a signed release based on staging version 30 of 8.2.1, which is pretty good. http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/ Cheers, Pia ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Life in an insecure world
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 2:18 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: Is this really true ? If you've removed /versions, how does alt-boot find the other image ? It could be true. It's easy to remove /versions from the namespace of the kernel/shell/etc. It just makes it more difficult to perform the upgrade, since the upgrader needs to manipulate /versions. You could either (a) mount /versions read-only (easy, but just requires a malicious user to 'mount -o rw,remount /versions ; /bin/rm -rf /), or (b) mediate upgrades via the trusted 'oats' daemon (pid 1), which alone has access to the /versions tree. This was Ivan's original design, but Michael and I never really worked out how rainbow trusted communication was supposed to work. IIRC the update protocol does has a separately signed credential which Sugar can pass to oats to assert that the requested update action is valid/trusted. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Life in an insecure world
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:34 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: You could either (a) mount /versions read-only Do you mean having it on a separate partition? How do you decide space dedicated to the partition? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Google summer of Code?
Thanks Peter! OLPC are definitely participating tihs year. We should pull together a good list of both sugar and OLPC projects. On the OLPC wiki, this means updating two pages http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Code http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2009/Ideas The latter needs a new page. SL should set up one as well, assuming they are doing SOC. SJ On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I noticed that quite a few organisations are starting to ramp up for GSOC and getting people to start thinking about proposals etc. Not sure if OLPC/Sugar are planning on participating but if so it might be worthwhile to start to get people thinking about what needs to be done etc. Cheers, Peter ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Google summer of Code?
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Samuel Klein s...@laptop.org wrote: Thanks Peter! OLPC are definitely participating tihs year. We should pull together a good list of both sugar and OLPC projects. On the OLPC wiki, this means updating two pages http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Code http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2009/Ideas The latter needs a new page. SL should set up one as well, assuming they are doing SOC. http://sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code Marco ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Systems] My git problem resolved
Thanks david On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:58 AM, James Simmons jim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote: I was having a problem pushing committed changes to gitorious and I assumed that the problem was either with the way I created my RSA key or a problem with the git server. After doing some research on the message using The Google I found out what the real problem was, and I updated the migration instructions to try to include this information. Feel free to improve on what I added, but I think the info is needed for those like myself who are new to git. The page I refer to is: http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/How_to_migrate_from_OLPC#Migrating_activities_from_dev.laptop.org James Simmons ___ Systems mailing list syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: booting from ext2 formatted SD card
Sameer, Sure I do it all the time. If you can wait until the next OLPC-SF meeting I will help you then. regards, /Robert H. On Feb 8, 2009, at 11:09 PM, Sameer Verma wrote: Is it possible to boot an XO from an SD card with an Ext2 filesystem? This is an XO with a dev key. I've followed instructions from http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Ubuntu_On_OLPC_XO but it sits at the OFW prompt saying Unrecognized program format Any pointers would be great. Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Life in an insecure world
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:34 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: You could either (a) mount /versions read-only Do you mean having it on a separate partition? How do you decide space dedicated to the partition? No, you can bind-mount subtrees read-only. But what root can do, root can undo. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Life in an insecure world
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:31 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: Do you mean having it on a separate partition? How do you decide space dedicated to the partition? No, you can bind-mount subtrees read-only. But then, it still has to reside somewhere in the / filesystem. And that somewhere will get nuked... Am I missing some cunning step? My stupid test seems to indicate that a simple mount won't protect us... $ sudo mkdir -p /secret/path/to/versions $ sudo touch /secret/path/to/versions/afile $ sudo mkdir /versions $ sudo mount -o ro,bind /secret/path/to/versions /versions $ ls /versions afile $ sudo rm -fr /secret $ ls /versions $ uname -a Linux martin-onyx 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 15 11:03:58 UTC 2009 i686 GNU /Linux m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
[Server-devel] Some XS project ideas
Various people have been asking me about cool projects to do on the XS (in some cases for GSoC-like efforts) so I drafted a wikipage with my current thoughts http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Project_Ideas these aren't easy enough for GSoC, but some volunteer effots have a lot more experience and manpower than a single student :-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Server-devel mailing list server-de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/server-devel
maintaining activity web information
(Please forward to whatever the sugar activity mailing list is.) There's a lot of activity information on wiki pages to maintain, I couldn't find any documentation on how to maintain it all. So I wrote http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Maintaining_activity_web_information based on how activities like Etoys are set up. I added a section about the fields to update when you migrate your activity to SugarLabs. I think it's accurate, edit away if not. It's clearly *way too much work* because of overlapping redundant info. Perhaps this is why many activity web pages and Activities/Another_list have out-of-date info. Maintenance should be much simpler. I have specific ideas how to get there, but I'm not even clear where the info should live. I think there has to be one web site where you can browse all activities, but is that site wiki.laptop.org or sugarlabs.org (or git.sugarlabs.org)? -- =S Page ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
New release8.2.1 build 800
http://pilgrim.laptop.org/~pilgrim/xo-1/streams/8.2.1/build800 Changes in build 800 from build: 790 Size delta: -0.26M -olpcrd 0.48-0 +olpcrd 0.51-0 -olpc-utils 0.89-1.olpc3 +olpc-utils 0.89-6.olpc3 -libertas-usb8388-firmware 2:5.110.22.p18-1.olpc2 +libertas-usb8388-firmware 2:5.110.22.p23-1.olpc3 -etoys 3.0.2153-1 +etoys 4.0.2205-2 -kernel 2.6.25-20080925.1.olpc.f10b654367d7065 +kernel 2.6.25-20090129.1.olpc.a3e1b6fe884eb2d -bootanim 1.2-1 +bootanim 1.3-2 -sugar-journal 99-4.olpc3 +sugar-journal 101-1.olpc3 -sugar-update-control 0.17-1 +sugar-update-control 0.17.1-1 -NetworkManager 1:0.6.5-0.11.svn3246.olpc3 +NetworkManager 1:0.6.5-0.12.svn3246.olpc3 -bootfw q2e18-1.olpc2.unsigned +bootfw q2e30-1.olpc2.unsigned -glibc 2.8-8 +glibc 2.8-11 -glibc-common 2.8-8 +glibc-common 2.8-11 -libX11 1.1.4-3.olpc3 +libX11 1.1.4-5.olpc3 -squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc10 +squeak-vm 3.10-3olpc11 -xkeyboard-config 1.3-4.olpc3 +xkeyboard-config 1.3-7.olpc3 --- Changes for olpcrd 0.51-0 from 0.48-0 --- + Fix multiple activation key support --- Changes for etoys 4.0.2205-2 from 3.0.2153-1 --- + update version string on startup + include icons for mimetypes --- Changes for kernel 2.6.25-20090129.1.olpc.a3e1b6fe884eb2d from 2.6.25-20080925.1.olpc.f10b654367d7065 --- + Fix installation of WEP keys through SIWENCODEEXT ioctl --- Changes for bootanim 1.3-2 from 1.2-1 --- + Rebuild, previous version had bad pyfb.so + Update animation frames to include Fedora branding (trac #9140). + Update animation frames to include Fedora branding (trac #9140). --- Changes for sugar-update-control 0.17.1-1 from 0.17-1 --- + Trac #9044: make translatable; import translations. + Fix packaging problems; actually distribute translation files. + Trac #9044: Pick up Spanish translations for release. --- Changes for bootfw q2e30-1.olpc2.unsigned from q2e18-1.olpc2.unsigned --- + Minor GUI icon layout fix. + OLPC trac 9211 - fixed crashes when doing StandBy from Windows. + Fixed display selftest size problem (test patterns didn't fill the screen) + Added some I/O registers to the list reported by ACPI so the Windows unreported memory test will work. + Turned off the keyboard, mouse, and DCON when going into Windows StandBy, saving power and preventing spurious partial-wakeups on the screen hardware. + OLPC trac 9211 - fixed crashes when doing StandBy from Windows. + Fixed display selftest size problem (test patterns didn't fill the screen) + Added some I/O registers to the list reported by ACPI so the Windows unreported memory test will work. + Turned off the keyboard, mouse, and DCON when going into Windows StandBy, saving power and preventing spurious partial-wakeups on the screen hardware. + Fixed problems with lid switch handling and kbd/mouse during Windows resume + OLPC trac 9179 - fixed Divide Error in scan-nand examination phase. + OLPC trac 9178 - fixed test-all crash when invoking pen-tablet function in touchpad test. + Fixed a problem in the suspend/resume code that affected restoration of SD registers + Fixed a problem in the suspend/resume code that affected restoration of SD registers + Fixed a Stack Overflow message in scan-nand, that happened under unusual circumstances + Changed the SMBIOS model name string for qualification testing + Callouts to C code can now have up to 20 arguments + BIOS emulation now supports installation from USB and CD-ROM + Turned off HTTP connection persistence for faster HTTP loading + Fixed a longstanding TCP problem with passive connection termination + Trac 9135 - allow re-executing EMACS without resetting + NANDblaster auto-channel-choice improvements - choose fastest channel instead of counting APs + Fixed a few NANDblaster UI bugs found in early testing. + Fixed a few NANDblaster UI bugs found in early testing. + Candidate for 8.2.1, built on fc5 with E-series EC firmware, svn 1029 + Changes listed below are relative to q2e22... + NANDBlaster support. [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update details] + OLPC trac 9053 - Includes wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23 + USB - fixed bulk-in timeout setting; only seems to affect some USB CD-ROM drives. + OLPC trac 8987 - Reinstated a missing Marvell quirk workaround + Erase SPI FLASH blocks just before writing them, as weak protection against bricking. + Attempt to make SD startup a little more robust by retrying if the first power-up attempt failed. + New EC version scheme to remove confusion with the system firmware version scheme (old scheme also supported) + Candidate for 8.2.1, built on fc5 with E-series EC firmware, svn 1029 + Changes listed below are relative to q2e22... + NANDBlaster support. [http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update details] + OLPC trac 9053 - Includes wireless firmware 5.110.22.p23 + USB - fixed bulk-in timeout setting; only seems to affect some USB CD-ROM drives. + OLPC trac 8987 - Reinstated a
Re: Activities migration status
Ed McNierney wrote: On the other hand, anyone working on Sugar efforts such as Activity development should be encouraged to put all those efforts under the Sugar Labs roof where they can be more readily available to the entire Sugar community (not just the OLPC portion of it). Then http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting is obsolete. What's the equivalent page on sugarlabs.org? Parts of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_an_activity are also out-of-date. -- =S Page ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Life in an insecure world
Thanks for the discussion, but I agree with Scott's what root can do, root can undo. I brought up rm -f /* in the context of illustrating that the worst you can do in Linux doesn't compare with enabling security from OFW. If anyone insists on continuing this thread, there are a number of questions raised by providing direct access to the 'rm' command. Unlike any user friendly OS, in UNIX this command is final... Cheers, wad On Feb 9, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:31 AM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@laptop.org wrote: Do you mean having it on a separate partition? How do you decide space dedicated to the partition? No, you can bind-mount subtrees read-only. But then, it still has to reside somewhere in the / filesystem. And that somewhere will get nuked... Am I missing some cunning step? My stupid test seems to indicate that a simple mount won't protect us... $ sudo mkdir -p /secret/path/to/versions $ sudo touch /secret/path/to/versions/afile $ sudo mkdir /versions $ sudo mount -o ro,bind /secret/path/to/versions /versions $ ls /versions afile $ sudo rm -fr /secret $ ls /versions $ uname -a Linux martin-onyx 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 15 11:03:58 UTC 2009 i686 GNU /Linux m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Minimal steps to start hacking on Browse.xo?
Hi! I found the git repo for Browse xo! Hurray! (finding things in github is hard work, or perhaps I managed to find the hardest path to it). Not being a Sugar dev, I want to do some light hacking on Browse.xo but I don't have a Sugar environment prepared to hack on it. How can I get going with minimum steps...? So far, what I've tried to do... 1 - grab an XO with 8.2 2 - yum install git 3 - git clone git://git.sugarlabs.org/browse/mainline.git mv mainline.git browse.git (btw, shoud this be called browse.git, or browse-mainline.git?) 4 - run it from the checkout... how? is there a better way? cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Fwd: right pilgrim setup for 8.2.1 staging builds
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Pia Waugh gre...@olpcfriends.org wrote: Hi Ties, quote who=Ties Stuij we need to base a release on the latest 8.2.1 changes here in Nepal, however I can't find a public pilgrim repo that is actually configured right. If you wait about a day, cjb is doing a signed release based on staging version 30 of 8.2.1, which is pretty good. http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/xo-1/streams/staging/ Thanks, but since we're building custom images, I need to get hold of the pilgrim setup, not the end-product. /Ties ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: right pilgrim setup for 8.2.1 staging builds
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 09.02.2009, at 10:03, Ties Stuij wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 08.02.2009, at 10:49, Ties Stuij wrote: So did I choose the wrong branch, or is there a secret pilgrim-setup somewhere, with which the 8.2.1 staging images on xs-dev.l.o are built? I would really, really appreciate it if somebody can point me to the right setup! staging builds != 8.2.1 builds http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/8.2.1-pkgs.html http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/staging-pkgs.html Can we call them 'builds that are stages (or steps if you will) towards 8.2.1'? I will call them anything you want. I will also adjust my mental picture of the whole setup, if they are not what I think they are. But I DO want the setup for those staging builds. I'll do just about anything you want... I'll bake you cakes, and send them to the US, I'll fix an Etoys annoyance of your choice (on my level though), I'll brush your shoes if I ever meet you, IF,... IF you can point me to the right pilgrim setup. It's nice to see those packages of the different stage builds, but they don't point to any repo(s). Or is it a puzzle? Please people, help me out here. Sorry, I was just suggesting that whereever you found your 8.2.1 set up there may be a staging setup that better reflects the actual progress of 8.2.1. I have no idea where that is located. Sorry for the confusion. Yes indeed I'm trying to find the staging setup. /Ties ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
