Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-29 Thread Philipp Kocher
Emiliano Pastorino wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'm trying to recover a battery than seems to be broken.
 This is what I've done so far:
 
 - I've plugged the battery on an unsecured XO.
 
 - When I run watch-battery from the ok prompt, I get a No battery 
 message.
 
 - I tried see-bstate and I get an infinite output of 0 1 2 0 1 2 0 1 
 2 0 1 2
 
 - Battery led never flashes.
 
 - If I use a known good battery, I get all the expected results (led 
 turns on, nice
 output from the commands above).
 
 Besides, I tried to use batman.fth, but when I run fload 
 nand:\batman.fth I get
 The file 'nand:\olpc.fth' cannot be opened.
 I've downloaded batman.fth from 
 http://dev.laptop.org/pub/firmware/scripts/batman.fth
 and placed it in / .
 
Put batman.fth in /home/olpc and try fload nand:\home\olpc\batman.fth.

nand:\ at the ok prompt is not / in linux, check with dir nand:\ at 
the ok prompt.

Try to reset the battery with 1w-init bat-set-low and bat-recover, I 
have seen a battery with the see-bstate problem working afterwards.

Good luck.

 I'm using firmware Q2E35.
 
 Is that battery unrecoverable? How can I tell the difference between a 
 completely
 broken battery and a broken-but-recoverable one?
 
 Any tips?
 
 Emiliano
 
 
 
 
 ___
 Devel mailing list
 Devel@lists.laptop.org
 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote:

 Put batman.fth in /home/olpc and try fload nand:\home\olpc\batman.fth.
 
 
 OK. That worked (I think), but now I'm getting this when I execute fload:
 
  sd.ddd isn't unique
  sd.dd isn't unique
 ec-rambase isn't unique
 ec-ram@ isn't unique
 logstr isn't unique
  sd isn't unique
  sdx isn't unique
 nand:\home\olpc\batman.fth:763: w16d32?
 nand:\home\olpc\batman.fth:769: w16d32?
 nand:\home\olpc\batman.fth:773: w16d32?

Are you using the latest batman.fth?  I pulled a lot of batman 
functionality into the firmware and had to modify batman.fth to avoid 
the errors above.

Originally,  I only pulled in some key diagnostics but then in later 
firmwares I needed the formatting functions too so its a bit of a mismash.

 Try to reset the battery with 1w-init bat-set-low and
 bat-recover, I have seen a battery with the see-bstate problem
 working afterwards.

1w-init should not be used anymore.  Rather you do a 'batman-start'

New firmware suspends only the battery interface and leaves the keyboard 
active.  'batman-stop' will resume normal operation.

 I get No response from battery with both commands.
 The battery is officially dead

-- 
Richard Smith  rich...@laptop.org
One Laptop Per Child
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-29 Thread Emiliano Pastorino

 Are you using the latest batman.fth?  I pulled a lot of batman
 functionality into the firmware and had to modify batman.fth to avoid the
 errors above.


I'm using  0.3.6.

Originally,  I only pulled in some key diagnostics but then in later
 firmwares I needed the formatting functions too so its a bit of a mismash.


Is there any up-to-date document on how to proceed when recovering a faulty
battery  using recent firmware?


 New firmware suspends only the battery interface and leaves the keyboard
 active.  'batman-stop' will resume normal operation.


Should I expect any output when running batman-start? I noticed that battery
interface is suspended,  but I don't see anything else
going on.


Now I'm trying to recover a red led flashing battery. Suddenly, it went from
flashing red to nothing and I'm also getting No battery from
watch-battery
and 0 1 2 0 1 2. from see-bstat.
When the led was flashing red, I could get an error code of 2 from
ec-abnormal@ .. Now I'm getting 0. I'd like to know what that 2 meant.
Where
can I get the explanation of those error codes?

I'll be testing more faulty batteries, so I'll be bothering here
periodically :)
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: Battery recovery issues

2009-04-29 Thread Richard A. Smith
Emiliano Pastorino wrote:
 Are you using the latest batman.fth?  I pulled a lot of batman
 functionality into the firmware and had to modify batman.fth to
 avoid the errors above.
 
  
 I'm using  0.3.6.

Sorry.  I didn't have the latest up on the site.  Grab a fresh copy.

 Is there any up-to-date document on how to proceed when recovering a 
 faulty battery  using recent firmware?

No. But the difference is just running batman-start prior to 
bat-recover.  If you want to stop bat-recover then remove the battery. 
It will error and drop to an ok prompt.

 Should I expect any output when running batman-start? I noticed that 
 battery interface is suspended,  but I don't see anything else
 going on.

Nope. And while batman is enabled don't expect the charge LED to do 
anything normal. It will flash in odd patterns.

 Now I'm trying to recover a red led flashing battery. Suddenly, it went 
 from flashing red to nothing and I'm also getting No battery from 
 watch-battery
 and 0 1 2 0 1 2. from see-bstat.
 When the led was flashing red, I could get an error code of 2 from 
 ec-abnormal@ .. Now I'm getting 0. I'd like to know what that 2 
 meant. Where
 can I get the explanation of those error codes?

The error list on the wiki is a bit out of date.  I'll work on updating 
a list on the battery diagnostics page.  A 2 mean that the status 
register setting in the battery gas gauge was not what the EC expected 
it to be.  This happens every so often and is usually transient.  If it 
was actually written into the EEPROM and you get that every time then 
please do a bat-dump-banks and look at the value in the 2nd line of 
bank0, Col 1. It should be 0x6a if is not then you can use 
bat-set-status to fix it.

ok batman-start
ok 6a bat-set-status
ok batman-stop

 I'll be testing more faulty batteries, so I'll be bothering here 
 periodically :)

No problem.  Please help me keep the battery diagnostic page up to date 
with things that you find.

On that note.  I need to get with you sometime and get some charge logs. 
I'm want to know how the capacity of the batteries you have had out 
in the field are holding up.

-- 
Richard Smith  rich...@laptop.org
One Laptop Per Child
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


application for project hosting: PhoneticExplorer

2009-04-29 Thread Lars Huttar
Hopefully this is not a repost.

I initially sent this to sysad...@laptop.org and to this list, as
instructed by http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting

However that was right after subscribing to this list, and it was not
yet clear whether I needed to confirm my subscription before I could
post. Now it looks like I should have waited.

So now my message is in the moderator queue, but rather than wait for
moderator approval I thought I'd go ahead and resend the message to the
list now that I am a confirmed subscriber.


1. Project name :PhoneticExplorer

2. Existing website, if any :http://wiki.laptop.org/go/PhoneticExplorer

3. One-line description :Explore the sounds of the world's languages.

4. Longer description   :A phonetics toy, allowing children basic
exposure to sounds of the world's languages, via the International
Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). The IPA symbols are displayed; user can click
on a symbol and hear it pronounced.

5. URLs of similar projects : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ScriptExplorer,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Speak

6. Committer list

  Username   Full name SSH2 key URL
E-mail
     - 
--
   #1 huttarlLars Huttar   [attached id_rsa.pub - no longer
attached]

   If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please
attach them
   to the application e-mail.

7. Preferred development model

   [x] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
   project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be
familiar to
   CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most
projects.

8. Set up a project mailing list:

   [ ] Yes, named after our project name
   [ ] Yes, named __
   [X] No

9. Commit notifications

   [ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to
the list
   we chose to create above
   [ ] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for
commit
   notifications
   [X] No commit notifications, please

11. Translation
   [X] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation commits
to be made
   [ ] Translation arrangements have already been made at ___

12. Notes/comments:


Thanks...
Will someone please let me know if project hosting is no longer supported?

Lars
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: application for project hosting: PhoneticExplorer

2009-04-29 Thread Walter Bender
You can host your project at http://git.sugarlabs.org/ without any
intervention on our part. Looking forward to seeing your project.

-walter

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote:
 Hopefully this is not a repost.

 I initially sent this to sysad...@laptop.org and to this list, as
 instructed by http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting

 However that was right after subscribing to this list, and it was not
 yet clear whether I needed to confirm my subscription before I could
 post. Now it looks like I should have waited.

 So now my message is in the moderator queue, but rather than wait for
 moderator approval I thought I'd go ahead and resend the message to the
 list now that I am a confirmed subscriber.


 1. Project name             :PhoneticExplorer

 2. Existing website, if any :http://wiki.laptop.org/go/PhoneticExplorer

 3. One-line description     :Explore the sounds of the world's languages.

 4. Longer description       :A phonetics toy, allowing children basic
 exposure to sounds of the world's languages, via the International
 Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). The IPA symbols are displayed; user can click
 on a symbol and hear it pronounced.

 5. URLs of similar projects : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ScriptExplorer,
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Speak

 6. Committer list

      Username   Full name             SSH2 key URL
 E-mail
         -             
 --
   #1 huttarl    Lars Huttar           [attached id_rsa.pub - no longer
 attached]

   If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please
 attach them
   to the application e-mail.

 7. Preferred development model

   [x] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
       project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be
 familiar to
       CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most
 projects.

 8. Set up a project mailing list:

   [ ] Yes, named after our project name
   [ ] Yes, named __
   [X] No

 9. Commit notifications

   [ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to
 the list
       we chose to create above
   [ ] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for
 commit
       notifications
   [X] No commit notifications, please

 11. Translation
   [X] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation commits
 to be made
   [ ] Translation arrangements have already been made at ___

 12. Notes/comments:


 Thanks...
 Will someone please let me know if project hosting is no longer supported?

 Lars
 ___
 Devel mailing list
 Devel@lists.laptop.org
 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel




-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


application for project hosting: PhoneticExplorer

2009-04-29 Thread Lars Huttar
1. Project name :PhoneticExplorer
2. Existing website, if any :http://wiki.laptop.org/go/PhoneticExplorer
3. One-line description :Explore the sounds of the world's languages.

4. Longer description   :A phonetics toy, allowing children basic
exposure to sounds of the world's languages, via the International
Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). The IPA symbols are displayed; user can click
on a symbol and hear it pronounced.

5. URLs of similar projects : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ScriptExplorer,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Speak

6. Committer list

  Username   Full name SSH2 key URL
E-mail
     - 
--
   #1 huttarlLars Huttar   attached id_rsa.pub

   If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please
attach them
   to the application e-mail.

7. Preferred development model

   [x] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
   project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be
familiar to
   CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most
projects.

8. Set up a project mailing list:

   [ ] Yes, named after our project name
   [ ] Yes, named __
   [X] No

9. Commit notifications

   [ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to
the list
   we chose to create above
   [ ] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for
commit
   notifications
   [X] No commit notifications, please

11. Translation
   [X] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation commits
to be made
   [ ] Translation arrangements have already been made at ___

12. Notes/comments:



id_rsa.pub
Description: application/vnd.ms-publisher
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: application for project hosting: PhoneticExplorer

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Unterhauser
Hi Lars,

since you are developing a sugar activity it is wise to host your
project on sugarlabs.org infrastructure

cu
dogi

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can host your project at http://git.sugarlabs.org/ without any
 intervention on our part. Looking forward to seeing your project.

 -walter

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote:
 Hopefully this is not a repost.

 I initially sent this to sysad...@laptop.org and to this list, as
 instructed by http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting

 However that was right after subscribing to this list, and it was not
 yet clear whether I needed to confirm my subscription before I could
 post. Now it looks like I should have waited.

 So now my message is in the moderator queue, but rather than wait for
 moderator approval I thought I'd go ahead and resend the message to the
 list now that I am a confirmed subscriber.


 1. Project name :PhoneticExplorer

 2. Existing website, if any :http://wiki.laptop.org/go/PhoneticExplorer

 3. One-line description :Explore the sounds of the world's languages.

 4. Longer description   :A phonetics toy, allowing children basic
 exposure to sounds of the world's languages, via the International
 Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). The IPA symbols are displayed; user can click
 on a symbol and hear it pronounced.

 5. URLs of similar projects : http://wiki.laptop.org/go/ScriptExplorer,
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Speak

 6. Committer list

  Username   Full name SSH2 key URL
 E-mail
     - 
 --
   #1 huttarlLars Huttar   [attached id_rsa.pub - no longer
 attached]

   If any developers don't have their SSH2 keys on the web, please
 attach them
   to the application e-mail.

 7. Preferred development model

   [x] Central tree. Every developer can push his changes directly to the
   project's git tree. This is the standard model that will be
 familiar to
   CVS and Subversion users, and that tends to work well for most
 projects.

 8. Set up a project mailing list:

   [ ] Yes, named after our project name
   [ ] Yes, named __
   [X] No

 9. Commit notifications

   [ ] Notification of commits to the main tree should be e-mailed to
 the list
   we chose to create above
   [ ] A separate mailing list, projectname-git, should be created for
 commit
   notifications
   [X] No commit notifications, please

 11. Translation
   [X] Set up the laptop.org Pootle server to allow translation commits
 to be made
   [ ] Translation arrangements have already been made at ___

 12. Notes/comments:


 Thanks...
 Will someone please let me know if project hosting is no longer supported?

 Lars
 ___
 Devel mailing list
 Devel@lists.laptop.org
 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel




 --
 Walter Bender
 Sugar Labs
 http://www.sugarlabs.org
 ___
 Devel mailing list
 Devel@lists.laptop.org
 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel

___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: application for project hosting: PhoneticExplorer

2009-04-29 Thread James Cameron
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 05:34:37PM -0500, Lars Huttar wrote:
 So now my message is in the moderator queue, but rather than wait for
 moderator approval I thought I'd go ahead and resend the message to the
 list now that I am a confirmed subscriber.

That's fine.  We can wear the duplicates.

-- 
James Cameronmailto:qu...@us.netrek.org http://quozl.netrek.org/
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


plz test Build 802 + Firmware Q2E41 = Candidate Release 8.2.1

2009-04-29 Thread Holt
The build is now signed so you don't even need a developer key:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

Helping us test WPA (WPA2 especially) would be most useful, since these 
wifi connections sometimes fail as much as 20% of the time, when Release
8.2.0 seemed to fail only ~10% of the time.  And of course try:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

Please help us clean up Release Notes on the way!
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/8.2.1

Recap -- all you should need are these 2 files burned onto a USB stick:
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/802/jffs2/os802.img (233MB)
http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/802/jffs2/fs.zip (155K)

Follow the usual procedure (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/USB_update), grab 
Activities from your XO's Control Panel later, and Buzz (IRC Live Chat)
if you get stuck: http://forum.laptop.org/chat

Thanks!
--Holt

___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [laptop.org #39401] application for project hosting: PhoneticExplorer

2009-04-29 Thread Lars Huttar
On 4/29/2009 6:13 PM, sysad...@laptop.org wrote:
 sorry but like i already answer on devel,
 you should host your project on sugarlabs infrastructure
 
 cu
 dogi
 

OK. Can somebody please change the obsolete, misleading text at
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting

 If you're looking to start an OLPC-related project, we are happy to host your 
 code.

Lars


___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: [laptop.org #39401] application for project hosting: PhoneticExplorer

2009-04-29 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Lars Huttar lars_hut...@sil.org wrote:
 On 4/29/2009 6:13 PM, sysad...@laptop.org wrote:
 sorry but like i already answer on devel,
 you should host your project on sugarlabs infrastructure

 cu
 dogi


 OK. Can somebody please change the obsolete, misleading text at
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Project_hosting

 If you're looking to start an OLPC-related project, we are happy to host 
 your code.

Someone from OLPC should probably take that initiative. There is a
reference to Sugar hosting at the top of the page.

-walter


-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: plz test Build 802 + Firmware Q2E41 = Candidate Release 8.2.1

2009-04-29 Thread NoiseEHC
As I understand 802 differs from 801 only in the firmware. Is it true? 
Shall I test 802 if I have been using 801 for a long time? Will anybody 
fix kernel/X errors if I report them?

Holt wrote:
 The build is now signed so you don't even need a developer key:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing

 Helping us test WPA (WPA2 especially) would be most useful, since these 
 wifi connections sometimes fail as much as 20% of the time, when Release
 8.2.0 seemed to fail only ~10% of the time.  And of course try:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/1_hour_smoke_test

 Please help us clean up Release Notes on the way!
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/8.2.1

 Recap -- all you should need are these 2 files burned onto a USB stick:
 http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/802/jffs2/os802.img (233MB)
 http://download.laptop.org/xo-1/os/candidate/802/jffs2/fs.zip (155K)

 Follow the usual procedure (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/USB_update), grab 
 Activities from your XO's Control Panel later, and Buzz (IRC Live Chat)
 if you get stuck: http://forum.laptop.org/chat

 Thanks!
 --Holt

 ___
 Devel mailing list
 Devel@lists.laptop.org
 http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


   

___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel


Re: plz test Build 802 + Firmware Q2E41 = Candidate Release 8.2.1

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

As I understand 802 differs from 801 only in the firmware. Is it
true?

That's right.

Shall I test 802 if I have been using 801 for a long time?

A small amount of testing would be very good, yes.  We don't expect
any changes to be visible outside of the firmware and battery charging
(behavior should be better in the presence of batteries with extremely
low charge), but we should double-check that everything looks normal.

Will anybody fix kernel/X errors if I report them?

Please do report them, but they will probably not be fixed in this
release, which will be happening as soon as this last round of smoke
testing completes.  We might be able to provide you with workarounds,
though, or be able to start creating fixes for inclusion in the next
release.  Filing a bug is generally worthwhile no matter where we
happen to be in the release process.

Thanks,

- Chris.
-- 
Chris Ball   c...@laptop.org
___
Devel mailing list
Devel@lists.laptop.org
http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel