Re: 1.5 power management, input events, wakeup events

2009-06-25 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Daniel Draked...@laptop.org wrote:
 The end-user interface for those is unlikely to change much (if we do
 the ACPI tables right).

And we will pay the performance cost of ACPI? It was an oft-repeated
thing that ACPI was evil because of complexity and slowness in the
critical path to super smooth sleep-resume cycles.

Were we overestimating the impact?

cheers,



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Re: 1.5 power management, input events, wakeup events

2009-06-25 Thread Chris Ball
Hi,

Would that mean that gnome-power-manager and DeviceKit-power
would work as-is on the XO-1.5?

I don't think we'd want to run gnome-power-manager because it would
attempt to do things like manage the backlight, which we want to do
ourselves as part of aggressive suspend/resume.  But it would probably
mean that we could run it and it would be able to figure out what's
going on with our hardware, yes.

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Re: 1.5 power management, input events, wakeup events

2009-06-25 Thread Deepak Saxena
On Jun 25 2009, at 09:49, Chris Ball was caught saying:
 The complexity of implementation is real, but it turned out that Mitch
 had to do the work of adding ACPI tables for Windows anyway.  Being
 able to suspend/resume on unmodified distro kernels (and not having to
 constantly maintain and forward-port the OLPC suspend/resume patch
 every release) will be a big win, worth some hours of our time in
 setting up ACPI.

I'd like to second Chris on the benefits of running something that is 
already well supported under Linux and allows us to use standard PM tools. 

One concern I have is whether ACPI provides the granular control over
wakeup events that we desire.

~Deepak

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Create and sign Country specific XO image

2009-06-25 Thread Philipp Kocher
Hello

Cambodia is getting 1000 new XOs very soon. This are the first ones with 
a Khmer keyboard.

To make the installation process easier, I would like to create a 
country specific image based on build 802, which includes Khmer keyboard 
support, fonts, the newest language pack with software translations, 
Activities and some customizations.

I found just very few information about creating a country specific 
image (mainly from Nepal):
http://tiezemans.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/customizing-the-xo-image/
http://blog.olenepal.org/index.php/archives/183
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customizing_NAND_images


How can I get a country specific image file signed?

Which other customizations or bugfixes are recommended to be included 
(e.g. like the ones from paraguay 
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-March/023788.html)?

Detailed instructions from other deployments about creating an image are 
very welcome.

Thanks and best regards,
Philipp
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Re: Create and sign Country specific XO image

2009-06-25 Thread Bryan Berry
Philip, 

talk to reuben caron about getting the image signed.

Personally, i think you are better off unlocking your XO's and using and
unsigned image. 

If you want to create a custom image, my best recommendation is that you
contract Ties Stuij or someone at OLPC to do it for you. Reuben may or
may not have the resources to do it himself.

Creating a custom image is a fair amount of work and you always have to
change it later. 
On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 11:25 +0700, Philipp Kocher wrote:
 Hello
 
 Cambodia is getting 1000 new XOs very soon. This are the first ones with 
 a Khmer keyboard.
 
 To make the installation process easier, I would like to create a 
 country specific image based on build 802, which includes Khmer keyboard 
 support, fonts, the newest language pack with software translations, 
 Activities and some customizations.
 
 I found just very few information about creating a country specific 
 image (mainly from Nepal):
 http://tiezemans.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/customizing-the-xo-image/
 http://blog.olenepal.org/index.php/archives/183
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Customizing_NAND_images
 
 
 How can I get a country specific image file signed?
 
 Which other customizations or bugfixes are recommended to be included 
 (e.g. like the ones from paraguay 
 http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2009-March/023788.html)?
 
 Detailed instructions from other deployments about creating an image are 
 very welcome.
 
 Thanks and best regards,
 Philipp
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Re: #9361 NORM 1.5-F11: drm not working

2009-06-25 Thread Harald Welte
Hi guys, 

i'm currently offline and I'm missing an appointment for writing this e-mail,
thus no time to log into RT.

you have a chrome9 system, please don't try to use it with the old
DRM code in the kernel which is for chrome/unichrome.


VIA has some out-of-mainlien chrome9 DRM driver, which has been rejected
from mainline inclusion so far, because

1) there were some severe security concerns (which I share).  I think those
   have been addressed in later releases (see linux-fbdev-devel)
2) there is still no FOSS code using the DRM interface, and David Airlie
   seems reluctant to merge something
3) the only FOSS codebase that looks like it might eventually end up having
   DRM support on chrome9 so far (gallium3d) has modified the kernel/userspace
   API, and the kernel folks don't want to merge a driver before it provides
   one API that can be used by closed + open source drivers.
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