New F11 for XO-1.5 build 33
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5 http://dev.laptop.org/~cjb/f11-1.5/os33 Compressed image size: 395.64mb (-0.54mb since build 32) Description of changes in this build: * switch to 16-bit color mode for consistency with the kernel and OFW * kernel now keeps the display working after a suspend/resume (with >Q3A14) * attempt to change root fs from ext4 to ext3, to avoid corruption (#9513) Package changes since build 32: -DeviceKit-disks-004-4.fc11.i586 +DeviceKit-disks-004-5.fc11.i586 -NetworkManager-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.i586 +NetworkManager-0.7.1.997-1.fc11.i586 -NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.i586 +NetworkManager-glib-0.7.1.997-1.fc11.i586 -NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1-8.git20090708.fc11.i586 +NetworkManager-gnome-0.7.1.997-1.fc11.i586 -at-3.1.10-31.fc11.i586 +at-3.1.10-32.fc11.i586 -audit-1.7.14-1.fc11.i586 +audit-1.7.16-1.fc11.i586 -audit-libs-1.7.14-1.fc11.i586 +audit-libs-1.7.16-1.fc11.i586 -boost-1.37.0-7.fc11.i586 +boost-1.37.0-8.fc11.i586 -dhclient-4.1.0p1-4.fc11.i586 +dhclient-4.1.0p1-5.fc11.i586 -etoys-4.0.2319-1.fc11.noarch +etoys-4.0.2332-1.fc11.noarch -fontpackages-filesystem-1.20-2.fc11.noarch +fontpackages-filesystem-1.28-1.fc11.noarch -gnumeric-1.8.4-2.fc11.i586 +gnumeric-1.8.4-3.fc11.i586 -gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-1.fc11.i586 +gstreamer-plugins-good-0.10.16-2.fc11.i586 -gvfs-1.2.3-12.fc11.i586 +gvfs-1.2.3-13.fc11.i586 -gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-12.fc11.i586 +gvfs-fuse-1.2.3-13.fc11.i586 -kernel-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091009.1746.1.olpc.69c8c87.i586 +kernel-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091022.1416.1.olpc.3517a05.i586 -kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091009.1746.1.olpc.69c8c87.i586 +kernel-firmware-2.6.30_xo1.5-20091022.1416.1.olpc.3517a05.i586 -libpurple-2.6.2-1.fc11.i586 +libpurple-2.6.3-2.fc11.i586 -libv4l-0.6.1-1.fc11.i586 +libv4l-0.6.2-1.fc11.i586 -mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090707-1.fc11.noarch +mobile-broadband-provider-info-1.20090918-1.fc11.noarch -nfs-utils-1.2.0-5.fc11.i586 +nfs-utils-1.2.0-6.fc11.i586 -olpc-utils-1.0.3-2.fc11.i586 +olpc-utils-1.0.3-3.fc11.i586 -quota-3.17-4.fc11.i586 +quota-3.17-5.fc11.i586 -setup-2.8.3-1.fc11.noarch +setup-2.8.3-3.fc11.noarch -shared-mime-info-0.60-3.fc11.i586 +shared-mime-info-0.60-4.fc11.i586 -smartmontools-5.38-14.fc11.i586 +smartmontools-5.38-18.fc11.i586 -tzdata-2009m-2.fc11.noarch +tzdata-2009o-1.fc11.noarch -xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.5-1.fc11.i586 +xorg-x11-drv-evdev-2.2.6-1.fc11.i586 -xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.903-16.fc11.i586 +xorg-x11-drv-openchrome-0.2.904-1.fc11.1.i586 ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: changing the texture...
Yes, a flat area would be nice for stickers/sticker labels or taped labels too. The bumps are label-unfriendly :-/ > This came up at a recent meeting where we were looking at the XO1.5 > > I'm not sure how easy or difficult it is to change the plastic > texture/bumps, but if the XO 1.5 had a small rectangular area (say, 2 > inch x 3 inch...like a business card) in the back without the bumps, > it would help with labels and or markings. Writing on the textured > surface is difficult. > > Just passing it along. > > cheers, > Sameer -- carlos nazareno http://twitter.com/object404 http://www.object404.com -- user group manager phlashers: philippine flash actionscripters adobe flash/flex/air community http://www.phlashers.com -- interactive media specialist zen graffiti studios http://www.zengraffiti.com -- "if you don't like the way the world is running, then change it instead of just complaining." ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Deducto and Color Deducto activities - creating your own game mechanism
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Manusheel Gupta wrote: > Caroline, > > Thank you. Appreciate your feedback. > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Caroline Meeks < > carol...@solutiongrove.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is cool thanks! >> > > > Is there a way to lower the floor? >> > > I am sorry, but I didn't get this part. Could you please elaborate. > One of the Sugar sayings is "Low Floor, No Ceiling" that is its really really easy to start, very little learning curve to climb, but you can still do powerful things as you learn more and more. > > > >> Is there a version of this game that a 6 year old could have easy success >> with that would help ramp it up? >> > > Wish if you could share your ideas on how we could work and improve on this > area. Will having a "hint" feature in the game that pops up after a couple > of tries, and after viewing 5-8 true boards and false boards makes things > better? > Hmm, I'm not actually very good at designing games but I suggest taking a look at the Sudoku game and Implode. Maybe start with a very small board and totally obvious rules? How can we teach someone who can't read the instructions on how to play? > > > >> >> Suzanne, the 4th grade teacher at the GPA, has the students play a "Guess >> my rule" game with shapes. For example, "All right angles" "Only Triangles", >> "Two sides the same". >> >> > Very interesting. We will be working on developing lesson plans using > Deducto and Color Deducto this winter. This use-case will be explored in > detail before we implement this in the activities. Wish if you could provide > us with lesson plans that teachers at GPA would like us to implement in > these activities. Thank you very much for sharing these ideas. > Right now they play it with cut out shapes. One student makes a secret rule (e.g. all right angles) and the other student selects shapes and is told if they match the rule. They have to guess the rule. > > > > >> Do we have a place to put game ideas so programmers could pick them up if >> they want a project? >> > > Not at this juncture. We'll start this section within the next 2 days. > Great! Thanks for all the good work!!! > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > > >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Manusheel Gupta wrote: >> >>> Dan, >>> >>> Ashita has been working on a user guide for "create your own game" >>> mechanism for Deducto and Color Deducto activities. The guide is not yet >>> complete and needs a flow chart, but should be good enough to walk you >>> through this feature. Please find it attached along with this e-mail. >>> >>> On a separate note, this feature is open to development, and we will see >>> more enhancements soon. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Manu >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Forwarded message -- >>> From: Ashita Dadlani >>> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM >>> Subject: revised color deducto documentation >>> To: Manusheel Gupta , >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ashita Dadlani >>> Software Engineer, Products and Services >>> Software for Education, Entertainment and Training Activities >>> http://seeta.in >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Devel mailing list >>> Devel@lists.laptop.org >>> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Caroline Meeks >> Solution Grove >> carol...@solutiongrove.com >> >> 617-500-3488 - Office >> 505-213-3268 - Fax >> > > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
os33 - video regression ?
When I try to run mplayer on os33 with the parameters that I use on the XO-1, the XO-1.5 shows a bright green screen and locks up completely (all that I can do is power off). I have to explicitly tell mplayer to use the 'x11' driver (i.e., *no* implied acceleration) in order to see a "moving picture" in os33 with mplayer. [IIRC, previously on os32 my mplayer with the XO-1 parameters had worked, but jerkily.] Also, though it may be a function of network congestion / source quality, but my impression is that with os33 YouTube is "jerkier" than I remember from os32. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: wlan interface (was: first play with new XO 1.5 machines)
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/10/23 Albert Cahalan : >> Thus, properly done, the XO labled "C" might have either of: >> >> a. wlan0 to reach A, and wlan1 to reach B (same hardware) >> b. wlan0, from which wlan0_0 and wlan0_1 are instantiated > > It can't do this, unless it has 2 independent clocks in the wifi > hardware. I do not know of any hardware that does this. > > The issue is that A and B are both hosting their own networks, they > are both beacon masters, spewing beacons based off their own clocks. How is this any different than the mesh situation? > C can either talk with A, by finding the beacons, adjusting its own > clock to match. (at this point, any frames coming from B will be heard > as noise) > or it can adjust to B's clock, in order to speak to it (and everyone > else who's synchronized to B). At this point, frames coming from A are > just noise. Which clock? Do you mean one for the individual bits, or one for packet-level time division? AFAIK, a clock for individual bits is not something you'd keep. The preamble should take care of that. A packet-level clock shouldn't cause the "heard as noise" issue. If you can't deal with multiple beacon masters spewing beacons based off their own clocks, then mesh should be impossible. BTW, this goes beyond ad-hoc and mesh. I might want to serve as 3 access points and be a client to 7 others. That should work, subject only to channel and interference troubles. (hardware X can do 1 channel in each band, hardware Y only does 1 channel total, and hardware Z can do 2 degraded channels in 1 band) ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: On XO-1 soas03xo has flaky behavior
>> * The "crash on vertical scrolling" is really hurting me. I >> cannot access all of my Journal, nor all of Home List View (I have >> to use the search field -- *if* I know what I am looking for). > > Got the same issue, but could work around it by setting the X server into > 24bpp mode instead of 16bpp. Smells like a geode driver bug to me, but I > have not reported it to the freedesktop.org bugzilla yet. I'm experiencing more and more forgetfulness -- but I don't recall the "crash on vertical scrolling" problem occurring on F11 (or earlier) builds from laptop.org. Note that soas03xo is F12-based. mikus ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Test firmware
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:00:45AM -0400, Richard A. Smith wrote: > > When this happens to me I unplug it, remove the battery then hold the > > power > > button about 10secs. Put the battery back in and all is good > > The button press is unnecessary. I suggest slowly waving the battery around in the air at 0.5Hz for five cycles as a means to keep yourself on task while counting the ten seconds. Again, it has no effect on the laptop or the battery ... but is terribly useful for concentration and visual effects. It's when someone else begins to do it that one should worry. ;-) -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Deducto and Color Deducto activities - creating your own game mechanism
Caroline, Thank you. Appreciate your feedback. On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > Hi, > > This is cool thanks! > Is there a way to lower the floor? > I am sorry, but I didn't get this part. Could you please elaborate. > Is there a version of this game that a 6 year old could have easy success > with that would help ramp it up? > Wish if you could share your ideas on how we could work and improve on this area. Will having a "hint" feature in the game that pops up after a couple of tries, and after viewing 5-8 true boards and false boards makes things better? > > Suzanne, the 4th grade teacher at the GPA, has the students play a "Guess > my rule" game with shapes. For example, "All right angles" "Only Triangles", > "Two sides the same". > > Very interesting. We will be working on developing lesson plans using Deducto and Color Deducto this winter. This use-case will be explored in detail before we implement this in the activities. Wish if you could provide us with lesson plans that teachers at GPA would like us to implement in these activities. Thank you very much for sharing these ideas. > Do we have a place to put game ideas so programmers could pick them up if > they want a project? > Not at this juncture. We'll start this section within the next 2 days. Regards, Manu > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Manusheel Gupta wrote: > >> Dan, >> >> Ashita has been working on a user guide for "create your own game" >> mechanism for Deducto and Color Deducto activities. The guide is not yet >> complete and needs a flow chart, but should be good enough to walk you >> through this feature. Please find it attached along with this e-mail. >> >> On a separate note, this feature is open to development, and we will see >> more enhancements soon. >> >> Regards, >> >> Manu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- Forwarded message -- >> From: Ashita Dadlani >> Date: Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 12:34 AM >> Subject: revised color deducto documentation >> To: Manusheel Gupta , >> >> >> >> -- >> Ashita Dadlani >> Software Engineer, Products and Services >> Software for Education, Entertainment and Training Activities >> http://seeta.in >> >> >> ___ >> Devel mailing list >> Devel@lists.laptop.org >> http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel >> >> > > > -- > Caroline Meeks > Solution Grove > carol...@solutiongrove.com > > 617-500-3488 - Office > 505-213-3268 - Fax > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: Bug specific to Fedora 11 on both XO-1 and XO-1.5
Tomeu, Thank you for your feedback. We'll investigate this issue in the coming week, and will share our progress soon. Regards, Manu On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:07 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 20:28, Manusheel Gupta wrote: > > Tomeu, > > > > Mikus reported an interesting bug on both the XO-1 and XO-1.5 running F11 > - > > Color Deducto activity comes up without color. Please find the logs > attached > > - http://pastebin.com/m7fb5ca12 . > > > > Wish if you could suggest pointers to debug this issue. > > I see the following pointers to problems in the logs: > > 1255861056.350624 ERROR root: Invalid SUGAR_SCALING. > ... > /home/olpc/Activities/ColorDeducto.activity/ColorDeducto.py:306: > GtkWarning: Can't set a parent on widget which has a parent > > self.makenewlevel_menu.append(self.openyourlevel_item) > /home/olpc/Activities/ColorDeducto.activity/ColorDeducto.py:608: > DeprecationWarning: use GdkColormap.alloc_color > style.bg[gtk.STATE_NORMAL]=self.c.get_colormap().alloc(s) > /home/olpc/Activities/ColorDeducto.activity/ColorDeducto.py:661: > DeprecationWarning: use GdkColormap.alloc_color > style.bg[gtk.STATE_NORMAL]=self.c.get_colormap().alloc(s) > /home/olpc/Activities/ColorDeducto.activity/ColorDeducto.py:674: > GtkWarning: gtk_box_pack: assertion `child->parent == NULL' failed > self.vbox.pack_start(self.hbox_list[2*i], False, False, 6) > # adding H-Separator in V-Box > /home/olpc/Activities/ColorDeducto.activity/ColorDeducto.py:770: > GtkWarning: gtk_box_pack: assertion `child->parent == NULL' failed > self.Vcontainer.pack_start(Hcontainer4,False, False,0) > > It's possible that some of those point to the root causes. > > If it doesn't, please post a screenshot. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. > What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David > Farning > ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
Re: [Server-devel] Early F11 XS build
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> -- the vanilla F11 kernels fail to boot on the XO -- expected? > > I think it should boot but I don't think the boot.fth is created but > its been a while since I've got around to trying it on my XO. boot.fth is created from the kickstart file. The missing thing are the symlinks (vmlinuz, initrd) but I've created those ok. The initrd is clearly unpacked and exec'd but t never completes booting. If it's expected to work, I can work on tracing WTH is going on. If it's known not to work for hard-to-fix reasons, well... >> - However, that means that making a bootable usb is harder for users. > > What causes it to be harder to make a bootable usb? To clarify -- a bootable installer. Making a bootable installer from a Fedora DVD involves downloading the netinst iso separately and copying it into the USB disk. >> - Dependency chains are slimmer... but some are still bizarre. Bits >> of kde and gnome are there. > > At a guess this is probably due to PolicyKit. I've had issues with it > in the past. Yes, PK is the main culprit. Posted to fedora-olpc on this topic yesterday... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
changing the texture...
This came up at a recent meeting where we were looking at the XO1.5 I'm not sure how easy or difficult it is to change the plastic texture/bumps, but if the XO 1.5 had a small rectangular area (say, 2 inch x 3 inch...like a business card) in the back without the bumps, it would help with labels and or markings. Writing on the textured surface is difficult. Just passing it along. cheers, Sameer ___ Devel mailing list Devel@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel
